Genres you despise and why

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So, everyone doubtless has some particular types of fiction they really don't like. This is a thread for discussing those disliked genres of fiction, with the caveat that you have to actively explain why you don't like them. You can't just go "I hate X because reasons.", you have to actually give an in-depth analysis of precisely what it is about a given genre that ticks you off. I'll start with some genres that hit my pet peeves as an example.

First up, I REALLY don't like situations like in "Dies the Fire" where suddenly all the modern technology stops working for no apparent reason, casually smashing the last few centuries of progress humanity made. This isn't purely due to me being a radically transhumanist technophile, and is distinct from magic systems that mess up electronics (as seen in the Dresden Files). I also don't mind quite so much when some other catastrophe damages human infrastructure enough to cause a technological collapse/backslide. At least in those cases the technology falling apart is a logical result of how the setting is put together, and can be viewed as a simple (if tragic) case of "shit happens".

In the case of all the tech just falling apart at once though, that can be construed as nothing less than a deliberate "Fuck You" to humanity in general on the part of the universe/god/the author. The number of specific tweaks to electromagnetism alone that would be needed to make even basic electromagnets non-viable without also completely obliterating the extremely complex electrochemistry responsible for allowing brains to work is frankly immense, meaning that there's no possible way for it to be anything other than deliberate. In that case, why should I care what achievements the resulting society left over manages? They'll just be snatched away again by jackass gods the instant they manage anything remotely impressive, and whoever's responsible for this could literally disintegrate the entire setting with a trivial amount of effort.

Another subgenre I well and truly despise is Zombie Apocalypses, but for completely different reasons. Namely, they just don't make any sense, typically. Sure, a massive swarm of zombies could hypothetically be a threat, but there's also a MASSIVE demographic of gun-toting lunatics looking for any excuse to shoot zombies in the head, not to mention the military. Am I supposed to believe that a single zombie somehow replicated to a horde billions strong against the combined strength of every military on the planet, the aforementioned gun-nuts looking for any opportunity to kill zombies, the World Health Organization/CDC, and the weather? No, that's not how it works, especially with such an idiotic transmission method as biting. What's going on would be figured out in mere hours from Patient Zero, and a few hours later the zombie virus would be largely eradicated aside a few isolated and easily-dealt-with cases.

There are a few exceptions, such as Left 4 Dead in which the virus is explicitly airborne and the players are asymptomatic carriers, but as far as I'm concerned they're damned by association with the rest of the zombie apocalypse genre.
 
I don't have very much regard for most gritty, neo-noir action shit. Wannabe Quentin Tarantino basically. To me the majority of this stuff comes off as very white, very male writers indulging in violent dudebro escapism, often packaged with contempt for women and low key racism, all packages under a veneer of gritty reality that demands to be taken seriously.

Especially in comics, there are tons of this kind of shit in graphic novels. Now obviously this isn't to say that it's objectively bad. Lots of people like 100 Bullets. But I sure as fuck don't.
 
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Any time a character is sent to a fantasy world and uplifts them using knowledge of modern tech.

I want to read about the fantasy world God damnit!
 
You know what I'm sick of?

"Cute girls doing cute things" anime.

And the biggest reason they're popular, AFAICT, is they have bloody waifu-baiting as their main selling point. And oftentimes implied yuri-baiting.

To elaborate on that: I don't have a problem with non-het relationships in fiction (I acknowledge NGE's Shinji/Kaworu, and MGLN's Nanoha/Fate for some examples), nor do I have a problem with female characters as protagonists or viewpoint characters (see the aforementioned MGLN as an example, Hitomi Kanzaki from Escaflowne for another).

My problem, is when those devices (female-heavy cast, yuri-tease, etc.) are just employed for the sake of pandering to the nerds who eat that shit up and spend $$$$$$$$$ on it, without actually providing satisfying plot/writing/other gimmicks to hook you in.

As an example of "use-cute/sexy-females-for-nerd-bait media" done right, I'd point to Final Fantasy X-2. Is it a fanservice-heavy JRPG where you play as a trio of hot/sexy lady adventurers who kick ass in a wide variety of outfits, some of which are varying levels of skimpy, with mildly suggestive transformation sequences between them? Yup. But it's also a story about of the entire world coming out of its 1000-year stagnation trip and finally having a chance to step forward into the future, and what that means. Some people can't keep up with the changing times, and others think the times aren't changing fast enough. And at the same time, it's about the protagonist Yuna dealing with low-key PTSD from her boyfriend sacrificing himself to save the world and her (oh yeah, and the religious order she was once willing to die for turned out to be 101% made of bullshit and lies, causing most of her worldview to collapse in on itself), while at the same time she tries to figure out what to do with a life she never expected she'd actually have a chance to experience. Sure it's a video game, which means I can also talk about how the battle and character progression systems are finely-tuned when that isn't a factor you can apply in judging anime or other media, but the point still remains.

Now, someone is inevitably going to ask about harem-genre, which also uses "waifu-bait" and fanservice as a main selling point.

To which I say, compare and contrast. Yes, there's still a lot of nerd-pandering with the fanservice, but the flipside is that harem works in my experience more commonly have a secondary genre, whether that's comedy (Love Hina, early Negima) or shonen action/adventure (Familiar of Zero, Sword Art Online, later Negima). So these works at least have something extra to widen the appeal, and more commonly being in manga (or originating as a light novel) format means they have to work harder to keep the audience invested and justify being continued, as opposed to a throwaway 13-episode slice of life anime.

At least, that's my opinion.
 
"Rational" fiction, because it's usually dominated by nerds who mistake their own innate biases and thought processes for "logic" and because it's usually about cheat-coding your way to victory because lol science, even though that's not really how science works.
 
RPG-inspired fantasy. Where there's like, acknowledged in-universe character classes, "adventurers' guilds" with seemingly no government oversight that are run like modern bureaucracies, medieval aesthetic but with modern sensibilities everywhere besides the most obvious and immediately plot-relevant places, etc. These things are forgivable in the name of a playable and balanced RPG, but outside of that medium it's just fucking stupid.

The isekai anime genre is obviously the MOST guilty of this, but it's not the only offender.
 
There are a few exceptions, such as Left 4 Dead in which the virus is explicitly airborne and the players are asymptomatic carriers, but as far as I'm concerned they're damned by association with the rest of the zombie apocalypse genre.
The rule of "anyone that dies, becomes a zombie, regardless of whether they encountered zombies in any way" is actually fairly common, it was used by the original Night of the Living Dead and the current trendsetter The Walking Dead. Which means that once things are initiated, you have 150,000+ Patient Zeros every day, which I'm pretty sure would be a death sentence for civilization.

The thing I find odd about zombie apocalypse settings is the military. Them ending up as villainous warlords controlling wide swathes of the post-apocalyptic landscape I could understand, and maybe even tragically expect as one of the more probable outcomes. Instead they're usually just... gone. Sure tanks and aircraft are going to quickly become useless with civilization bleeding out, but millions of men with guns and training is more valuable than ever and doesn't require a lot to train. Also I'd expect that with humanity likely ending up a maritime civilization based off islands, ships, and isolated rural areas, maintaining control of navies would be of tremendous value, even with loss of modern tech it could take years if not decades for a lot of vessels to pass beyond seaworthy status.

Honestly I'd love to see a zombie apocalypse work to actually cover what a death of a thousand outbreaks would constitute, of how civilization would struggle heroically but most likely fall apart, and of how it would eventually come back together in some new form, rather than just civilization going away so that the protagonists can fart around wandering into warlords and criminals and cultists because apparently civilization isn't just gone but prohibited. I think that's the real sticking point, for the same reason as your Dies the Fire example... its not just the death of civilization, but the fiat ban of new ones.
 
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Honestly I'd love to see a zombie apocalypse work to actually cover what a death of a thousand outbreaks would constitute, of how civilization would struggle heroically but most likely fall apart, and of how it would eventually come back together in some new form, rather than just civilization going away so that the protagonists can fart around wandering into warlords and criminals and cultists because apparently civilization isn't just gone but prohibited. I think that's the real sticking point, for the same reason as your Dies the Fire example... its not just the death of civilization, but the fiat ban of new ones.
Yeah, I suppose that's also a big part of the reason why I don't like excessive Grimdark in general. Like, if the entire setting is awful to live in, all the characters are horrible people, and there's no chance of things getting better, why should I care? WH40k is a great example of this sort of problem, since the laws of reality are literally trying to kill everyone. Fixing it would literally require near-omnipotent levels of power, since it requires completely reformatting the metaphysics of souls and obliterating an entire plane of existence (the Warp). Worm is somewhat similar in my eyes, only being redeemed by the massive number of fixfics.
 
I tend to avoid anything with a Villain Protagonist. Some of them can be really good and interesting, but the vast majority really just go out of their way to justify all the horrible shit the Protag does. "I had to genocide them, for the Greater Good/because they are even more evil than me/something something something."

Which could make for an interesting story, theoretically. In practice, it usually just turns into badly-written Protagonist-Centered Morality (bonus points if all the MC's enemies are Stupid Evil, somehow!) and the Villain Protagonist becomes no different than your typical asshole Hard Man Making Hard Decisions "Hero".
 
I loath HFY stories with a burning fiery passion.

They are by definition strawman stories, where everyone else gets pushed down to make humans awesome. As a corollary, I'm not a fan of alien invasion movies where modern humanity manages to win.
 
I hate Harem settings. Simply because the Male protagonist is always an Idiot and never gets laid. You watch 26 Episodes of an Anime with Harem setting and you get Panty/Tit -Shots but the poor Guy never gets laid! In most Cases the Male MC is not even worth the Female attention and the MC ends up in a Abusive relationship with a Tsundere.

Magical Girls - Sailor Moon or PMMM anybody o_O. Either Prepubescent Girls crying LOVEMECHAIN to kill an Idiot Villain or poor Girls forced to kill other Girls for some Eldritch Abomination.

Isekai Anime ... I Love to read SI Fanfics but Isekai Anime are always stupid. The MC always shucks... (Should have read all the SI fanfics here or on SB to know what to do!)

Self Insert Fanfics where the poor Guy/Gal panics over frekking the Plot or tries to make Friends with the Maincast to make everything better... Shuck the Plot or the MC's I say - get Powerful - steal what isn't nailed down (for everything else keep a welter!) and get rich!
In the same niche I dislike Fanfics where the SI goes to one of the Big 'GOOD GUYS' (Dumbledore - Yoda - etc) and tells them who they are, what will happening, etc

ASOIAF/GoT SI's (Other Fantasy Settings) Uplifting OC/SI Characters. Last thing the Lannisters need are Guns -.-

Mh... what genres do I hate also:
Zombie Apocalypse (Reason: In no way I can think of can they overrun the American Warmachinery)
Vampires who twinkle in the Sunlight (Reason: There are only 3 Blooddrinking Immortal Types: Alucard (Hellsing), Blooddemons (Buffy) and Vampires (Underworld))

I just write Wasn't there a US-Series where for Unknown reasons all Modern Tech suddenly didn't work? Don't remember the name and I believe I only watched 6 Episodes... Because WTF
 
Well given my general resistance towards bad fiction. It is hard for me to say I hate something but I do have stuff reserved for criticism

Small Child in Scary World like Braid and Gris for example in general is mostly indie devs trying to pander to other artsy types rather children who just want a game where they zap evil aliens and cobra wannabes

Harem anime draws ire not for the wish fulfillment but the fanbase who goes "just have sex already". I get that people have hormone but that kind of thinking is irresponsible and in reality not as fun as you think would be when you need a bag of ice and some me time with other guys.
 
If we're going to talk about gaming genres too, I'm sorry Steam indie game developers, but 'the gimmick is gravity' stopped being original or interesting a looong time ago at this point.
 
If we're going to talk about gaming genres too, I'm sorry Steam indie game developers, but 'the gimmick is gravity' stopped being original or interesting a looong time ago at this point.

So I guess Mount Your Friends and Gang Beasts isn't your cup of tea?
 
Harem when it has 'Girls show up insisting on being his bride and won't fucking listen/start crying or threatening suicide.' And having the MC being a 'nice guy' so he doesn't want them to cry and so follows 26+ episodes of hell. Followed by lots of trying to sneak into the shower/bed/etc all at the same time.

I'd like to see a bit character arrive and announce she needs/wants to have his kid but is willing to cut corners and hands him a playboy and a glass jar. She then leaves and isn't seen until the last episode where is is taking care of her kid FAR AWAY from the madhouse.
 
I dislike 'lone man uncovers government conspiracy and topples them' or 'government turns evil and heroic rural men fight them off'

I get where the idea is from...

Yet. Look what examples we have. Alex Jones. Pizza gate. Victoria. 'They're coming for our guns!' line of thought.

It is grotesque to watch.
 
ratfic and also whatever your favorite is.
if your favorite is ratfic then I double hate it.
 
I dislike 'lone man uncovers government conspiracy and topples them' or 'government turns evil and heroic rural men fight them off'

I get where the idea is from...

Yet. Look what examples we have. Alex Jones. Pizza gate. Victoria. 'They're coming for our guns!' line of thought.

It is grotesque to watch.

Quite. And over time I've become increasingly aware how many of the 'haha that's silly' conspiracy theories are really 'and this is how I'm coding my bigotry' theories.

Ancient Aliens? Not wanting to believe people in Egypt/Mezoamerica/the Pacific Islands could build stuff. Lizard people? Anti-semitism. A conspiracy of rich businessmen control the world? Ah, surely we have some good wholesome anti-capitalis- haha no, anti-semitism again!
 
Quite. And over time I've become increasingly aware how many of the 'haha that's silly' conspiracy theories are really 'and this is how I'm coding my bigotry' theories.

Ancient Aliens? Not wanting to believe people in Egypt/Mezoamerica/the Pacific Islands could build stuff. Lizard people? Anti-semitism. A conspiracy of rich businessmen control the world? Ah, surely we have some good wholesome anti-capitalis- haha no, anti-semitism again!
Not just that.

Frankly speaking... I'm starting to feel sorry for the government. Do a good job? No one notices, until you post some statistics. Do a bad job? Everyone notices and starts complaining.

Do your normal thing? The right says that you're being too 'politically correct' and 'taking in too many wimmens and moozlems'. The left says that the wealth divide is too large and have you heard of communism?

Really, they're not perfect, and sometimes not all that great. But at some point, after the 40th time you read about some bunch of teenagers or lone gunman kicking down some cartoonishly dystopian government with hilariously evil crimes as if it was written out of some Libertarian's fever dream (it is) you start feeling sorry for 'The Man'.
 
"Rational" fiction, because it's usually dominated by nerds who mistake their own innate biases and thought processes for "logic" and because it's usually about cheat-coding your way to victory because lol science, even though that's not really how science works.

I hate rational fiction, military sci-fi, and white medieval fantasy. Also, any form of media that romanticizes vampires.
 
I hate rational fiction, military sci-fi, and white medieval fantasy. Also, any form of media that romanticizes vampires.
I remembered this.

Technothrillers that seem to have a supernatural element... and then explain it away with bad pseudo science, or just plain as 'bad science'.

Dude, I want my military vs Fairies. Is that so much to ask?
 
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