Gayaverse Sniper Story

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[X] Work on the best Edmonton rifles (Rifles that are harder to use accurately, available early and in large numbers)

We're not a gunsmith to build a new rifle from scratch. No, this is a war of industry, finicky hard to make guns aren't good enough.

It's a numbers game, no matter what we do our girls will die in droves and equipment will be ruined equally. We need rugged equipment, and lots of it. The accuracy would be nice for the purpose of sniping/counter-sniping, but I don't think we can afford to go fancy if we're equipping huge masses of riflewomen.
 
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Could we have our cake and eat it too? Have them make Edmonton rifles while they spool up production on the better ones, then switch?
That sounds like the kind of plan that's complicated enough that you'd want to take it back to high command and sell them on it so they don't ask fool questions like "wait did you just verbally guarantee two contracts to the same company without getting a competing bid?"

Probably better for the Army to pick the scoped Edmonton while it puts out a bid for more sophisticated designs.

As I understand it, it was worn in the time period in our world, but it was considered improper to wear makeup pronounced enough that it's noticeable. Alternately, a sympathetic onlooker who considers the subjects propriety unassailable could note that it's visible as a way of saying that they've gone paler than they could rightfully expect.
Also, this is one of those areas where you might expect some slight divergence in social mores even if the broader cultural matrix is recognizably Edwardian. Norms surrounding makeup were so gendered that going from "patriarchy" to "partially-separate-but-touchily-equal" as the prevailing gender hierarchy would likely butterfly things.


It's a numbers game, no matter what we do our girls will die in droves and equipment will be ruined equally. We need rugged equipment, and lots of it. The accuracy would be nice for the purpose of sniping/counter-sniping, but I don't think we can afford to go fancy if we're equipping huge masses of riflewomen.
Well, we're kind of... not. This is a dedicated markswoman rifle, likely to be issued to at most a few tens of thousands of women before a new model comes out. You can tell because they're talking about taking the top one percent of Edmontons off the production line.*
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*(In an era where standards of machining are "file parts down to fit the machine" rather than "expect everything to be interchangeable and fit the first time")
 
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[X] Well, I was thinking about something I heard about and if I scramble we can make it happen... (+1-??? stress, write-in)
-[X] Is there a foreign military that we could purchase mechanically accurate rifles of sufficient standard from? Take the top 1% of production from the Alleghenians or the Luso-Carvalese if they have thicker barrels and better actions. It'll be dreadfully expensive and the ammunition non-interchangeability may become an annoyance, but it gets good rifles without having to tool up to build them here.
 
I was going to suggest the type 14 from the Akitsukuni, but it sounded like the albians'd never go for it...
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One of the major concerns is how quickly the rifles start showing up. A few months with only the rifles civilians can donate will be awfully painful, it's a judgement call whether that's worth having a better rifle when it's done.

Could we have our cake and eat it too? Have them make Edmonton rifles while they spool up production on the better ones, then switch?

In normal circumstances probably. Right now, everyone who can be trusted to make an Edmonton, and most of the people who can be successfully taught to make an Edmonton, is already making them. Getting the Blankshire Industrial Placeholder Company making a rifle action to the standards that they are good starting places for a proper conversion, let alone reliably so, requires some hand holding. Gunsmiths that are holding hands aren't making scope mounts. You can compromise but that ends up with two models in production, and a slower ramp on the Katzen. Unfortunately there isn't a free lunch to be had there.

That sounds like the kind of plan that's complicated enough that you'd want to take it back to high command and sell them on it so they don't ask fool questions like "wait did you just verbally guarantee two contracts to the same company without getting a competing bid?"

Command's order is to secure the production capacity of all domestic gunmakers capable of making a rifle fit for purpose (I'm using Brabant & Brabant as a stand-in for its entire category) so don't worry about preempting other companies. They will in turn be requested to provide all available manufacturing capacity.

-[X] Is there a foreign military that we could purchase mechanically accurate rifles of sufficient standard from? Take the top 1% of production from the Alleghenians or the Luso-Carvalese if they have thicker barrels and better actions. It'll be dreadfully expensive and the ammunition non-interchangeability may become an annoyance, but it gets good rifles without having to tool up to build them here.

Contracting with foreign manufacturers sounds like it would be a real headache, and probably require some fun chats to get clearance to pave the way for the deal, but that's a promising thought! If you can find a seller with capacity, that'd be good rifles now without taking up the time of Albian manufacturers, and could possibly allow interesting other options. Skimming off another nation's production would be interesting to say the least.
 
[X] Well, I was thinking about something I heard about and if I scramble we can make it happen... (+1-??? stress, write-in)
-[X] Is there a foreign military that we could purchase mechanically accurate rifles of sufficient standard from? Take the top 1% of production from the Alleghenians or the Luso-Carvalese if they have thicker barrels and better actions. It'll be dreadfully expensive and the ammunition non-interchangeability may become an annoyance, but it gets good rifles without having to tool up to build them here.
Skimming off another nation's production would be interesting to say the least.
I'm game for interesting.
 
Honestly, my only two contributions/questions to the assembled characters are very tenuously linked to the update itself, and by how the QM's been silent on those matters, probably spoiler territory.

1. What would it take to make/modify a rifle to pierce those steel rifle shields? And sandbags. And trench palisades. And housing. And concrete. And armored vehicles.
2. If the rifle's are no-go, can speciality ammunition compatible with the current rifles be manufactured?
3. Have the not!Germans been showing armored vehicles at the front, and what kind?

IIRC, Akitsukuni bought the Pom-Pom from Aliba. So that's probably a 20mm cartridge with significant mass and a decent amount of velocity. I know I am kinda asking for the moon here, especially since from a thematic point "sniper vs. tank" is a WWII thing and I don't want to push the quest in the direction of "we call it WWI but we're really just imitating Round 2".
 
Honestly, my only two contributions/questions to the assembled characters are very tenuously linked to the update itself, and by how the QM's been silent on those matters, probably spoiler territory.

1. What would it take to make/modify a rifle to pierce those steel rifle shields? And sandbags. And trench palisades. And housing. And concrete. And armored vehicles.
2. If the rifle's are no-go, can speciality ammunition compatible with the current rifles be manufactured?
3. Have the not!Germans been showing armored vehicles at the front, and what kind?
While the not!Russians fielded very clunky armored vehicles in the not!Russo-Japanese War a year or three ago... I suspect the Dyskelandisch haven't been doing the same thing.

Yet.

As to trying to open the antimateriel rifle tree, that's probably something where we'd want to talk to the manufacturers of elephant guns and their equivalent- I think the Brabant and Brabant (Holland and Holland expy?) would be the obvious example.

One other practical problem with gigantic rifles is that, due to gender expectations, this is a mostly-female force and a lot of our sniper recruits are like... five feet tall and not exactly festooned with muscles on their muscles. Fit, vigorous, et cetera, but not a bunch of Captain Albia types. Just carrying a large-caliber rifle is a nontrivial problem in the limiting case.
 
As to trying to open the antimateriel rifle tree, that's probably something where we'd want to talk to the manufacturers of elephant guns and their equivalent- I think the Brabant and Brabant (Holland and Holland expy?) would be the obvious example.

One other practical problem with gigantic rifles is that, due to gender expectations, this is a mostly-female force and a lot of our sniper recruits are like... five feet tall and not exactly festooned with muscles on their muscles. Fit, vigorous, et cetera, but not a bunch of Captain Albia types. Just carrying a large-caliber rifle is a nontrivial problem in the limiting case.
The hypothetical 20mm "trench-buster", much like anti-tank rifles of old, would likley be considered a "crew-served weapon" akin to the Vickers Maxim, not an infantry rifle. Especially if its targets are behind fixed fortifications and we can retain a longer engagement range, there probably isn't much need to be carried by a single soldier at a run over a long distance. The spotter probably lugs the tripod, or there's a third member of the fireteam.
 
Okay, but in that case that's a weapon to worry about rather later. Right now we're trying to at least get a working sniper doctrine and equipment arrangement into place.
 
[X] Do both. Take a smaller amount of Edmontons to start, and have the resulting free gunsmiths begin work on a better rifle.
 
[X] Work on the best Edmonton rifles (Rifles that are harder to use accurately, available early and in large numbers)
 
[X] Well, I was thinking about something I heard about and if I scramble we can make it happen... (+1-??? stress, write-in)
-[X] Is there a foreign military that we could purchase mechanically accurate rifles of sufficient standard from? Take the top 1% of production from the Alleghenians or the Luso-Carvalese if they have thicker barrels and better actions. It'll be dreadfully expensive and the ammunition non-interchangeability may become an annoyance, but it gets good rifles without having to tool up to build them here.


Lets get some superior Akitsukuni steel :p
 
[X] Well, I was thinking about something I heard about and if I scramble we can make it happen... (+1-??? stress, write-in)
-[X] Is there a foreign military that we could purchase mechanically accurate rifles of sufficient standard from? Take the top 1% of production from the Alleghenians or the Luso-Carvalese if they have thicker barrels and better actions. It'll be dreadfully expensive and the ammunition non-interchangeability may become an annoyance, but it gets good rifles without having to tool up to build them here.
 
[X] Work on the best Edmonton rifles (Rifles that are harder to use accurately, available early and in large numbers)
Can't help but feel that in attempting to both eat our cake and have it, we will up neither eating, nor having it.
 
Honestly, my only two contributions/questions to the assembled characters are very tenuously linked to the update itself, and by how the QM's been silent on those matters, probably spoiler territory.

1. What would it take to make/modify a rifle to pierce those steel rifle shields? And sandbags. And trench palisades. And housing. And concrete. And armored vehicles.
2. If the rifle's are no-go, can speciality ammunition compatible with the current rifles be manufactured?
3. Have the not!Germans been showing armored vehicles at the front, and what kind?

IIRC, Akitsukuni bought the Pom-Pom from Aliba. So that's probably a 20mm cartridge with significant mass and a decent amount of velocity. I know I am kinda asking for the moon here, especially since from a thematic point "sniper vs. tank" is a WWII thing and I don't want to push the quest in the direction of "we call it WWI but we're really just imitating Round 2".

I was actually trying to hint at exactly that with the newspaper clipping. Vance has some real advantages from gayaverse being different, but here it's a downside. It's not just that the rifles are big, it's that the whole thing, top to bottom, is masculine as hell. It's an exercise in compensating for a lack of precision with raw firepower, basically a diametric opposite to what Vance's job is. If you want to consult Brabant and Brabant about that, you're in the wrong one, you want Messrs. Brabant and Brabant next door (it's the brother's shop, you automatically went to Mmes. Brabant and Brabant). They will look at you incredibly strangely, and have a very hard time reconciling their preconceptions with what you're trying to inquire about. Such a course of action would not really be covered by Sylvia's current set of strengths and certainly provoke a reaction. It'd be like the officer tasked with land based airship defenses trying to pioneer naval air raids on hangars in enemy territory. It's a way of solving the problem you're tasked with, quite possibly a good idea, but it's not at all the expected course or something you've got the contacts for, if that all makes sense?

That said, scribbles down a note to give a chance to get a bit of a window into the war's broader context sooner rather than later.
 
3: A Dinner Invitation
You get an idea. It's a good idea, too. If the Edmonton in particular isn't a great basis for a conversion, what about other nations' service rifles? The Gallians are sure to be building a huge number of guns, Allegheny builds a lot of rifles and isn't building up for war, and you swear you remember something about an Akitsukuni rifle that was interesting and almost gave Helen Parr a run for her money. You could fire a message off to HQ asking for clearance for overseas purchases, and then negotiate with foreign companies, and now that you think about it, that'd be a long delay even before you get into how long shipments would take to arrive by ship. Worse, that'd mean entirely separate ammunition, coming from overseas, and needing to be spread out across the front. You look to Lily, and decide that rifles need to be arriving sooner rather than later. Exceptional women crawling through mud capturing rifles is no basis for a marksmanship programme. You decide the army cannot wait for you to arrange all the details, let alone for a foreign company to manufacture and ship guns halfway across the world to unfamiliar gunsmiths.

Your next thought is a scheme to have some manufacturers work on a better Katzen style action rifle while some mount scopes to Edmontons. You think that it might be workable, but it will be a long time until the Katzens start showing up, and before that point you'll have nothing to show for it. "It can't wait, can it?" you ask Lily.

"The rifles? The more the better in my book. If the gunsmiths run out of scopes to mount, get them going on open lenses so we can catch up sooner. We're in a dreadful state now and the sooner we're fighting back the better."

"Right." That settles that. "I'll secure the top percentile of Edmontons off the line for scoping, tell me how many you can handle."

You shake hands. You know how Albian industry will be mobilized to meet this challenge. The afternoon is spent making arrangements, but all the hard decisions have been made, and you're able to write that a solution has been found for this problem with Lily's assistance and that you're now able to move on to trying to start a recruitment drive.

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The evening post interrupted you as you were attempting to tell from the newspapers what the h-ll was going on in Gallia. You'd been lost in the desperate impossibility of your work training riflewomen up to standards for so long that you hadn't noticed the months slipping by. There was a common feeling that the war would be done by Christmas and the nasty unspoken certainty that Albia's army didn't have the replacements to last even that long if the continental armies stayed in the field.

And yet. Lily had said that when her arm was shattered, her friends had been there to see her off and she was sorry to leave them there. That was foreign to you. You'd been sorry to leave your friends behind after the battle at Descoteaux, having seen them off.

Wary of any other things that now meant something different from your first guess, you open the letter. It is an invitation to speak after dinner at the Sevenoaks Rifle Club, a very prestigious riflery club. Apparently, from the accompanying letter, the leading ladies of Isledon are resolved to do what they can to contribute to the nation's war effort, and you're invited there to talk about the future of riflery and discuss things from the perspective of the infantry. You are more than welcome to bring other distinguished officers whose perspective would be relevant, of course, that goes without saying.

That's convenient. It means you can bring Lily and ask her any questions you want since they're rhetorical questions for the benefit of the dinner party. Well, any questions about combat. You start to mentally run down the list of questions you'd ask her if it weren't for embarrassment and there's rather a lot. It'll be nice having more of a feel for what she did beyond earning Albia's highest honor and getting her name in the papers. You dash off an invitation to her to accompany you. The remainder of the evening is spent with the newspapers trying to picture her in the battles you read about.

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You lie in bed.

Yearly exercises had prepared you for a lot. You knew how to shoot, how to direct a unit's fire, and the vital skill of calling the range to keep the women focused on their target. What they hadn't, couldn't prepare you for was losing friends.

You shift.

You still had to consciously remind yourself that your 2i/c, Ellen Howell, was dead and gone. You'd see something, and you'd want to share it with her just to get her reaction or advice. She was a great listener.

You toss.

...

You turn.

...

You roll.

...

You clutch the covers tight.

...

You do not notice it when sleep comes.
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You'd forgotten what a hassle it was getting your full dress uniform to sit just right. You missed looking smart for the night, but you sure didn't miss working with your batwoman to get the girdle cinched down and then battling it to get everything else on before finally checking whether you'd gotten your body to match the jacket's shape. The result, though, made it all worth it. It'd been too long since you'd been able to remind yourself you could look like that. So long in fact that it felt almost like someone else.

After powdering your face to a natural, neutral complexion, you thrill at the sight of the woman grinning at you. It's been way too long, and even better you could spend the whole night talking with ladies of refinement, rather than having to endure a mixer with the men of another regiment. It was rare to get a chance to really talk to people with a properly different perspective on riflery, and the men were just hopeless. The best you'd ever gotten from one of them was flattery about how impressive you and your technique were, and groups were worse, they'd just try to show off to each other with how much ignorance they could affect. This night would be different. Among the finest and best traveled riflewomen in the world and all their experiences, you'd have to work to keep up with your knowledge of the Edmonton.

When you get to Lily's quarters, you aren't quite sure what to expect but you certainly don't expect sniffling. Taking care to click your heels against the floor, you rap on the door and announce yourself. After a bit of hesitation, you hear a response, "Come in". You hadn't seen Lily in such a state before. Her full dress uniform is laid out on her bed along with a decent amount of undergarments. The red blotchiness from her crying is fighting with an embarrassed blush, and the left strap of her bust supporter hangs at her elbow, unreachable by her good arm. You wonder how much of this difficulty she's been hiding under her comparatively shapeless field overcoat.

"I'm going to need a lot of help," she sniffles.

"That's fine," you mumble, gingerly lifting the strap up onto her shoulder. "Do you not have a batwoman? Why isn't one assigned?"

"It's part of the job. I'm basically out once I convalesce, remember? Not much need to have someone keep you fed in meetings and dress you for formal engagements while you heal."

"Right, yes. I'll have to see if there's anything I can do about that." You cast your eyes over the clothes on the bed, and find a light girdle. You lace it snugly to the curve of her waist, and wish it were as easy for you.

"Sure, let me know if you find a job for a Lieutenette who can't climb a ladder to go over the top," she scoffs. She's struggling to attach her stockings to their suspenders, and you go to help, but she insists she can manage it. It's an awkward maneuver. With the fingers of just one hand, she has to pin the attachment against the firm muscle of her thigh through a bit of soft flesh, hold the stocking in place on it, and then with her other fingers pull the clasp onto the point and with a strength belied by their fineness push the attachment stud firmly into the clasp through the stocking's resistance. Keeping track of the whole operation is just about past you, and more than once the awkwardness makes you want to help hold everything firmly in place against her leg. She manages, though.

"What's next?" you ask, looking at the rest of the uniform scattered on her bed.

"Whatever you choose, I'm reliant on you." She sighs and you run your gaze over her. Stockings cling to the contours of her legs, with only an imperceptible gather that could be smoothed over by quickly running your hands over it, and the suspenders run over surprisingly light pantalettes.

"Do you even need petticoats to structure your skirt?"

"Right, clothes, umm, there should be one under the skirt. The blouse and jacket should be out. I'll grab the hat on the way out the door."

As she takes a deep breath you realize something's weighing on her, something that she's not saying. You just have no idea how to handle it.

After a moment's consideration, you decide to...
[ ] Ask flatly what's bothering her (+2 stress, may cause offense)
[ ] Offer general reassurance
[ ] Try flattery to allay or draw out what's bothered her (+1 stress, lowest risk)
[ ] Confide your feelings of irrelevance (+2 stress, may reduce esteem)
 
[X] Ask flatly what's bothering her (+2 stress, may cause offense)
It's the right thing to do.
 
Gently, gently.

[X] Try flattery to allay or draw out what's bothered her (+1 stress, lowest risk)
 
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