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Functional Sorcery [Mage: The Awakening / Naruto]

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So wait our power is limited by how generous the GM is with paradox.

If we used something like a Polymorph spell how feasible would it be to use. And if paradox depends on how normal something is then should we no have a ton of leeway in naruto where people that can see the future exist and so do people that easily destroy mountain ranges. And dimentional and space time manipulation is commonplace due to seals.

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[X] go where people go to get kekki genki tested and show your abilities or tell about it.
-[X] reveal to someone important like a jounin or hokage what you saw specifically that sauske may defect.
-[X]Mention Natutos lines and importance especially the 8 large ones.

There is that Seer in Deamon Country so future seeing is while rare not uncommon as a gift.

And a seer seeing deamons would not be turned away as Bijuu exist and toms of powerful people in Naruto are crazy in one way or another.
 
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alid610 said:
So wait our power is limited by how generous the GM is with paradox.

If we used something like a Polymorph spell how feasible would it be to use. And if paradox depends on how normal something is then should we no have a ton of leeway in naruto where people that can see the future exist and so do people that easily destroy mountain ranges. And dimentional and space time manipulation is commonplace due to seals.

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[X] go where people go to get kekki genki tested and show your abilities or tell about it.
-[X] reveal to someone important like a jounin or hokage what you saw specifically that sauske may defect.
-[X]Mention Natutos lines and importance especially the 8 large ones.

There is that Seer in Deamon Country so future seeing is while rare not uncommon as a gift.

And a seer seeing deamons would not be turned away as Bijuu exist and toms of powerful people in Naruto are crazy in one way or another.
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Spector29 said:
...if you would attract attention doing it with chakra at genin, you most certainly would using magic.
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There's an assumption there that canon exists as-is dispite what happened to Sakura. Not going to confirm or deny ether way, but it's something to keep in mind that this won't be a sightseeing tour though canon.
 
alid610 said:
If we used something like a Polymorph spell how feasible would it be to use. And if paradox depends on how normal something is then should we no have a ton of leeway in naruto where people that can see the future exist and so do people that easily destroy mountain ranges. And dimentional and space time manipulation is commonplace due to seals.
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Polymorphing ourselves could easily just be Henge...but then, we could just Henge. Just because the abilities exist doesn't mean that Sayaka should have access to them. She's a scrubby non-clan pre-genin, and none of the genin really do anything esoteric that isn't related to their heritage.

And why would there just be a 'place where kekkai genkai get tested?' If there is such a place, then they'd have to record it... That's valuable information, the secrecy of which directly affects the effectiveness of Konoha shinobi. Let alone that that implies that baaaasically everyone has one. Oh, yeah, Tanaka-san, what'd you end up getting? Nice, nice, good to have it on the books, instead of nice and safe and restricted to those who need to know.
 
alid610 said:
So wait our power is limited by how generous the GM is with paradox.
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There are two main 'sources' of paradox. Trying to cast magic that's more complex than we're comfortable with and casting spells that are obviously supernatural in front of non-supernatural individuals ("sleepers" in mage terms). The QM seems to be counting the ability to manipulate chakra as not being supernatural enough to make someone stop being a sleeper. Which seems fair as otherwise we'd almost never run into one in this setting.
 
However if so long as you can fake it so the person in question does not break suspension of disbelief you are find and with chakra wizards everywhere we don't have to work that hard at it.

Also we might want to try to be an actually stealthy ninja so that people don't see what we are doing.
 
tricholysis said:
Polymorphing ourselves could easily just be Henge...but then, we could just Henge. Just because the abilities exist doesn't mean that Sayaka should have access to them. She's a scrubby non-clan pre-genin, and none of the genin really do anything esoteric that isn't related to their heritage.

And why would there just be a 'place where kekkai genkai get tested?' If there is such a place, then they'd have to record it... That's valuable information, the secrecy of which directly affects the effectiveness of Konoha shinobi. Let alone that that implies that baaaasically everyone has one. Oh, yeah, Tanaka-san, what'd you end up getting? Nice, nice, good to have it on the books, instead of nice and safe and restricted to those who need to know.
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Ninja do have doctor ninjas and we got damaged using an unkown Future seeing technique. There likeley are some mesures in place for clanless kekki genkai emerging.
 
You know if we go by the mage the awakening lore then their should be awakened chakra users out there that are enforcing the paradigm. In the original books it was the technocracy, but here it would be the chakracracy?
 
[x] Talk About It
-[x] The scene from the vision you got and what it might mean, in theory. Aside from maybe your going crazy
[x] Teal - Fate
[x] Green - Life
[x] Specify when you want to Release/Contain
 
tricholysis said:
How does the tally stand?
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By hand, I believe Blue- Teal is winning. I'll take a tally in a few hours.

fictionfan said:
You know if we go by the mage the awakening lore then their should be awakened chakra users out there that are enforcing the paradigm. In the original books it was the technocracy, but here it would be the chakracracy?
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Just to warn you, a lot of the Mage Canon is gonna get tread on by the chakramancers.
 
[x] Talk About It
-[x] The scene from the vision you got and what it might mean, in theory. Aside from maybe your going crazy
[x] Teal - Fate
[x] Green - Life
[x] Specify when you want to Release/Contain
 
Vote tally:
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[x] Talk About It
-[x] The scene from the vision you got and what it might mean, in theory. Aside from maybe your going crazy
[x] Teal - Fate
[x] Green - Life
[x] Specify when you want to Release/Contain
No. of votes: 4
veekie, saiman, wingstrike96, Nicklance

[X] Teal and Purple
[X] Release paradox in desolate areas, contain it in densely populated areas, unless it would lead to horrible things/death respectively.
[X] Talk to him
-[x] The strangely consistent dreams and odd sight, don't mention the premonition yet.
No. of votes: 1
Archeo Lumiere

[x] Talk About It
-[x] The scene from the vision you got and what it might mean, in theory. Aside from maybe your going crazy.
[x] Green - Life
[x] Teal - Fate
[x] Specify when you want to Release/Contain
No. of votes: 1
HeavyBane

[x] Talk About It
-[x] The scene from the vision you got and what it might mean, in theory. Aside from maybe your going crazy
[x] Teal - Fate
[x] Blue - Time
[x] Specify when you want to Release/Contain
No. of votes: 2
cmwatford, Robotninja

[X] Keep Quiet
[X] Teal - Fate
[X] Blue - Time
[X] Specify when you want to Release/Contain
No. of votes: 2
tricholysis, Skelm

[x] Talk About It
-[x] The scene from the vision you got and what it might mean, in theory. Aside from maybe your going crazy.
[X] Blue - Time
[x] Teal - Fate
[X] Release paradox in desolate areas, contain it in densely populated areas, unless it would lead to horrible things/death respectively.
No. of votes: 1
mastigos

[x] Talk about it
-[x] The strangely consistent dreams and odd sight, don't mention the premonition yet.
[x] Teal - Fate
[x] Green - Life
[x] Contain Paradox
No. of votes: 1
Joebobjoe

[x] Keep Quiet
[x] Teal - Fate
[x] Purple - Mind
[x] Specify when you want to Release/Contain
No. of votes: 1
DiceOfStupidity

[X] go where people go to get kekki genki tested and show your abilities or tell about it.
-[X] reveal to someone important like a jounin or hokage what you saw specifically that sauske may defect.
-[X]Mention Natutos lines and importance especially the 8 large ones.
No. of votes: 1
alid610
Vote tally:
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[x] Talk About It
No. of votes: 9
veekie, HeavyBane, cmwatford, saiman, Robotninja, mastigos, Joebobjoe, wingstrike96, Nicklance

-[x] The scene from the vision you got and what it might mean, in theory. Aside from maybe your going crazy
No. of votes: 8
veekie, HeavyBane, cmwatford, saiman, Robotninja, mastigos, wingstrike96, Nicklance

[x] Teal - Fate
No. of votes: 12
veekie, HeavyBane, cmwatford, saiman, Robotninja, tricholysis, mastigos, Joebobjoe, Skelm, DiceOfStupidity, wingstrike96, Nicklance

[x] Green - Life
No. of votes: 6
veekie, HeavyBane, saiman, Joebobjoe, wingstrike96, Nicklance

[x] Specify when you want to Release/Contain
No. of votes: 10
veekie, HeavyBane, cmwatford, saiman, Robotninja, tricholysis, Skelm, DiceOfStupidity, wingstrike96, Nicklance

[X] Teal and Purple
No. of votes: 1
Archeo Lumiere

[X] Release paradox in desolate areas, contain it in densely populated areas, unless it would lead to horrible things/death respectively.
No. of votes: 2
Archeo Lumiere, mastigos

[X] Talk to him
No. of votes: 1
Archeo Lumiere

-[x] The strangely consistent dreams and odd sight, don't mention the premonition yet.
No. of votes: 2
Archeo Lumiere, Joebobjoe

[x] Blue - Time
No. of votes: 5
cmwatford, Robotninja, tricholysis, mastigos, Skelm

[X] Keep Quiet
No. of votes: 3
tricholysis, Skelm, DiceOfStupidity

[x] Contain Paradox
No. of votes: 1
Joebobjoe

[x] Purple - Mind
No. of votes: 1
DiceOfStupidity

[X] go where people go to get kekki genki tested and show your abilities or tell about it.
No. of votes: 1
alid610

-[X] reveal to someone important like a jounin or hokage what you saw specifically that sauske may defect.
No. of votes: 1
alid610

-[X]Mention Natutos lines and importance especially the 8 large ones.
No. of votes: 1
alid610

So, Plan is pretty unspecific with a pretty small majority, but I think the Line vote in this case is a more clear indication of majority intention.

[x] Talk About It
-[x] The scene from the vision you got and what it might mean, in theory. Aside from maybe your going crazy
[x] Teal - Fate
[x] Green - Life
[x] Specify when you want to Release/Contain

So, the last vote was supposed to be the write in, but it looks like we'll take it to a subvote.

Here's some plans that have come up, with the previous options for those who voted for them:

[x] Release Paradox.
[x] Release Paradox in desolate areas, contain it in densely populated areas, unless it would lead to horrible things/death respectively.
[x] Contain Paradox unless it would be fatally unsafe to do so.
[x] Contain Paradox.
[x] Write-in
 
[x] Release Paradox in desolate areas, contain it in densely populated areas, unless it would lead to horriblethings/death respectively.

I think people thought it was the specify in the moment option.
 
[x] Release Paradox in desolate areas, contain it in densely populated areas, unless it would lead to horriblethings/death respectively.

This seems a good approach in general. Minimal Wisdom loss and not killing ourself.
 
When we release Paradox we should try and deal with it. Such as if it make an evil ghost we should try and exorcise it. This is another good reason to release in desolate areas so we can deal with it without being disturbed.
 
fictionfan said:
When we release Paradox we should try and deal with it. Such as if it make an evil ghost we should try and exorcise it. This is another good reason to release in desolate areas so we can deal with it without being disturbed.
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It's a good reason to not release Paradox in inhabited areas, that doesn't make it a good idea to release Paradox just because no one else is there.
 
[x] Talk About It
-[x] The scene from the vision you got and what it might mean, in theory. Aside from maybe your going crazy
[x] Teal - Fate
[x] Green - Life
[x] Specify when you want to Release/Contain


veekie said:
Paradox manifestations run the gamut from "The grass turns bright pink" to "Cthullu says hello" depending on how big a backlash it is.
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would love to see how ninja deal with some Abyssal manifestations. Especially the ones they would barely be able to detect. It's quite possible Orochimaru had an encounter with one, would explain crazy quite well.
Invaders book is awesome.
 
[x] Release Paradox in desolate areas, contain it in densely populated areas, unless it would lead to horrible things/death respectively.
 
[x] Release Paradox in desolate areas, contain it in densely populated areas, unless it would lead to horrible things/death respectively.
 
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[x] Release Paradox in desolate areas, contain it in densely populated areas, unless it would lead to horrible things/death respectively.
 
[x] Release Paradox in desolate areas, contain it in densely populated areas, unless it would lead to horrible things/death respectively.
 
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