Hmmm. Maybe she could take a page from Laserdream's book and call herself Jetcrack? (Like jet black).
Short answer: no.So, so far we have only seen fleshy parts of arms left out when she reforms. So, would having a part of her skull or brain held separate just instant death? Or some of her insides? It seems like it.
I feel her limits are whatever she has yet to learn and she has the same death condition as Alexandria E.G. when the host thinks it is dead.
Wait so if QA doesn't know how to do Brute powers why did it bother in the first place?Okay, let me go through these in order, see if I can clarify some things.
- Basically correct. She can change much faster than that, though. The main/only reason it's not instant is because there are two steps: become statue, then break into pieces.
- This is overselling it a bit. Her pieces are sharp, yes, but think scalpel or broken glass sharp, not 'sci-fi mono-molecular blade' levels.
- Not sure if this is just a weird phrasing, but she sees from the perspective of each shard, not between them. If she had one piece on either side of a building, she wouldn't be able to see inside. From both exterior angles at once, yes, but not inside.
- Looking back, I really should have been clearer on this: her healing is NOT tied to Taylor's knowledge of biology. The issue has nothing to do with her and everything to do with QA not being well suited to Brute powers. Picture it this way: Queen Administrator is a painter. Brilliant, a true artist, the sort that only comes along once in a generation. And then some asshole comes along and asked her to design the plumbing system. She manages it in the end, she's a smart girl, but it's a kludge. It's full of mistakes and places where there was a better way to solve problems, things someone with actual relevant experience would have done differently. That's Taylor's regeneration. It gets her back on her feet, but it's painful, inefficient, incapacitating, and potentially risky.
- Her weakness is the fact that every piece lost means another injury when she turns human again. And 'lost' doesn't need to mean melted or crushed to power, it can be as simple as 'locked in a box' or 'currently being grabbed' or 'stuck in something.' Missing chunks of herself (probably) won't kill her, but they will leave her unable to act until she heals, and in a serous fight that could be nearly as bad. Skitter could throw away her bugs to accomplish goals, but Fragments!Taylor's equivalent cost her a literal pound of flesh if she loses them.
- Yup! Of course, so can Sophia, at least in this fic's canon. Not gonna go retconning that.
- Oh, it's much bigger than that. Her fragments are less versatile than canon's bugs, vastly less expendable, and capped at her body's volume (Which... it's Taylor. She's basically built out of chopsticks and coat hangers), but in return she gets a LOT of range. The limit is in the form of 'max distance to nearest shard,' so arrangement matters, but is she spreads out in a grid with the smallest pieces she can make she can cover most of Brockton Bay.
Shards can pick what powers to give out, to a point. Certain trigger events, and the conditions around them, result in different types of powers.Wait so if QA doesn't know how to do Brute powers why did it bother in the first place?
I mean, Aegis is literally *right there*, a few blocks over, I can't believe a core shard such as QA couldn't just politely knock on Aegis' shard' window and ask it for help (a ping)
Aside from 'can't be permanently killed, ever' probably counting as the kind of unrestricted power healthy Shards really aren't supposed to hand out? The Entities aren't intelligent exactly in a human way, but I think they've probably figured out how to stop Shards from getting stuck in infinite loops.Your line about "the flag is only tripped by widespread cell death etc" made me wonder, why would that cell death not count as something for QA to fix? In fact, all signs point to the possibility that, if something were to happen where her lungs were to fill with blood, then she would suffocate. However, because of how her regen works, any damage or cell death that would result from a lack of oxygen would be regarded by QA as "just more work to do." So eventually, it becomes a situation where, metaphorically, QA is walking in circles, trying to clean the floor with perpetually dirty shoes leaving tracks behind her.
Well, unless the parts around the missing piece are also obsidian, she'll still have a bleeding hole in her body. One that won't regenerate, because the missing piece is still considered 'part' of her. I don't think her power would let her do that for safety reasons, though.Also, is there a reason why she cannot just ... not "flesh-ify" parts of her that has pieces missing? We already know that she can break just her arm, or head, etc. What stops her from just going around all day with the hidden small parts of her arms or legs flying around, the size of fingernails, giving her constant use of her power?
And if part of her is locked in a box (and I think she has relative spacial awareness?) why not just ... leave that part a shard, instead of making it flesh?
I could be wrong, but I think pinging a shard that's not nearby during the trigger would be against the rules? I mean, we certainly don't see parahumans passing out and having trigger visions because of someone on the other side of the city very often. I'm sure QA could if she wanted to, but Taylor was literally in the process of triggering. QA doesn't care about Taylor enough to bend the rules for her yet.Wait so if QA doesn't know how to do Brute powers why did it bother in the first place?
I mean, Aegis is literally *right there*, a few blocks over, I can't believe a core shard such as QA couldn't just politely knock on Aegis' shard' window and ask it for help (a ping)
You're basically on point, but one tiny nitpick correction: Taylor had a primarily Breaker trigger. If it had genuinely been a full-fledged brute-only trigger QA wouldn't have attached, she'd just keep waiting for a different moment down the line. What basically happened from QA's perspective is this:In canon, the best fit power for Taylor was a Master power, whereas here the best fit power seems to have been a Brute power. Effectively, the trigger event forced QA's 'hand' into bothering to make a brute power, compared to the master power it made for Taylor in canon.
My understanding is that "pinging" in the sense of "trigger event vision knocks parahumans out" and "pinging" in the sense of "power expression is influenced by another shard" are different phenomena. Scub's trigger event knocked out Taylor, Lisa, and presumably some of the Merchant capes, but you don't see any influence from them in his power.I could be wrong, but I think pinging a shard that's not nearby during the trigger would be against the rules? I mean, we certainly don't see parahumans passing out and having trigger visions because of someone on the other side of the city very often. I'm sure QA could if she wanted to, but Taylor was literally in the process of triggering. QA doesn't care about Taylor enough to bend the rules for her yet.
Okay, yeah, that makes sense. That's the not the interpretation I've been working from, but it sounds like an entirely valid reading.My understanding is that "pinging" in the sense of "trigger event vision knocks parahumans out" and "pinging" in the sense of "power expression is influenced by another shard" are different phenomena. Scub's trigger event knocked out Taylor, Lisa, and presumably some of the Merchant capes, but you don't see any influence from them in his power.
The vision thing seems to be based on physical proximity, or perhaps line-of-sight, though the limits are far from clear. The influence thing seems to be based on emotional proximity, eg, Vicky's power expression was influenced by her parents' and boyfriend's powers. They both involve shard communication, presumably, but they contact different groups of shards and do different things.
Which is why I talked about Scrub's power when arguing that the two are separate, not Victoria's. (I brought up Vicky and Gallant to show that a wide variety of "emotional closeness" can cause that kind of ping.)As for Victoria's trigger, I was under the impression that her family and boyfriend actually were nearby in the stands when she triggered. I could be wrong, though.
Actually, that should NOT be taken as something to judge how Pings work. Scrub was a Vial cape, and his network was down. So there was not much if any connecting with other shards, or anything like that. Vial powers are largely pre set based on what went into them (though nobody has a good idea what that will be)So in the Scrub example, his shard could have incorporated features from Lisa/Taylor/etc, but decided not to.
Um, no. Scrub triggered during the fight, before the vials could be handed out. He was told to give his prize to one of his friends, and Skidmark laughed when Scrub asked if he could split it between two.Actually, that should NOT be taken as something to judge how Pings work. Scrub was a Vial cape, and his network was down. So there was not much if any connecting with other shards, or anything like that. Vial powers are largely pre set based on what went into them (though nobody has a good idea what that will be)
This is how vial capes get the powers they do, when there is nothing trigger inducing about sitting in an empty white room.
Powers weren't specifically causing his trigger event, but it was caused by capes (Skidmark making the arena), which led to his power having the ability to bypass parahuman defenses such as invulnerability. So a subtle trump aspect, but there. So no influence from any particular cape, just capes in general.Scub's trigger event knocked out Taylor, Lisa, and presumably some of the Merchant capes, but you don't see any influence from them in his power.
I don't think that's true, but if it is, it doesn't matter. Pings aren't the same as Trump triggers. For another example that is (almost) certainly a Trump trigger, look at Bonesaw; her power clearly didn't ping off of Jack's or any of the other S9 members. (Though we don't have confirmation that any of them were KO'd at the actual moment of trigger, which would have made that a weaker initial argument.)Powers weren't specifically causing his trigger event, but it was caused by capes (Skidmark making the arena), which led to his power having the ability to bypass parahuman defenses such as invulnerability. So a subtle trump aspect, but there. So no influence from any particular cape, just capes in general.
Taylor's trigger event was caused by a cape, true, but not by powers. Scrub was literally imprisoned in the fighting ring by Skidmark's power, and he knew that there were a bunch of capes around. I'd describe it as the difference between her trigger event being caused by Sophia and it being caused by Shadow Stalker.I know power-involved triggers produce Trump powers, but I'm gonna need a source on Scrub's trigger being one of those. If literally every trigger event a parahuman was involved in lead to a Trumpy power aspect, there would be a lot more quasi-Trumps than there are. (Hell, Taylor's trigger was caused by a cape! Much more directly than Skidmark setting up the fight, too.)
SourceScrub dips into trump with the heavy interdimensional slam and ability to ignore/negate most brute defenses. He'd take a chunk out of Alexandria, for example.
But it's only a dip.
I know power-involved triggers produce Trump powers, but I'm gonna need a source on Scrub's trigger being one of those. If literally every trigger event a parahuman was involved in lead to a Trumpy power aspect, there would be a lot more quasi-Trumps than there are. (Hell, Taylor's trigger was caused by a cape! Much more directly than Skidmark setting up the fight, too.)
Are we talking about canon!Taylor here, or Fragments!Taylor?Taylor's trigger event was caused by a cape, true, but not by powers. Scrub was literally imprisoned in the fighting ring by Skidmark's power, and he knew that there were a bunch of capes around. I'd describe it as the difference between her trigger event being caused by Sophia and it being caused by Shadow Stalker.
In this instance, there's no difference. The trigger event was a situation set up by Sophia without involving her powers or Taylor knowing she was a cape.
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RestingInPieces: The latter. RestingInPieces: That's all. Thanks for the help |
Point_Me_@_The_Sky: Taylor Point_Me_@_The_Sky: I'm not sure how to say this, but Point_Me_@_The_Sky: do you feel like you're in danger? From this cape? |
RestingInPieces: not out of costume. Point_Me_@_The_Sky: ...and IN costume?? RestingInPieces: isn't that what being in costume means? RestingInPieces: Fighting people RestingInPieces: not being safe Point_Me_@_The_Sky: Spoken like a girl who's never had to sign autographs for three hours straight Point_Me_@_The_Sky: but seriously, there's a difference between the risk that comes with the job and being stupid Point_Me_@_The_Sky: You're new. Just… don't do something you're gonna regret later, okay? Point_Me_@_The_Sky: ...okay, seriously, say something. You going all quiet is freaking me out, and I WILL fly over to your house to make sure you're alright. Don't test me. RestingInPieces: don't RestingInPieces: i'm okay. whatever you're thinking it's not that. Point_Me_@_The_Sky: Okay. Point_Me_@_The_Sky: ...so, does this mean you've made up your mind of the stuff from earlier? RestingInPieces: oh RestingInPieces: Um, yeah. I want to be a hero, eventually RestingInPieces: if I can, I mean. Point_Me_@_The_Sky: You definitely can Point_Me_@_The_Sky: ...I'm actually going on a solo patrol this sunday, do you want to tag along? Point_Me_@_The_Sky: I could sort of show you the ropes, and with your powers it should be pretty easy to watch from a safe distance. RestingInPieces: That would be great RestingInPieces: Thank you Point_Me_@_The_Sky: Anytime. |