Fiend: Thread Two, the Rethreading [Exalted/Worm]

Robotninja said:
Shapeshifter. She can change her form. Be anyone.
Foerensic accounting. You can still track her purchases. Her methodologies, motivations, and probable needs and recousrses and stuff. And then once you know where she's been you can get other types of tracking .
 
Larekko12 said:
Foerensic accounting. You can still track her purchases. Her methodologies, motivations, and probable needs and recousrses and stuff. And then once you know where she's been you can get other types of tracking .
You mean... modern NORMAL tracking? Madness! XD
 
Ryune said:
Forensic accounting only really works when you can, you know, track what she buys. Due to being famous as all hell she is unlikely to walk around in her true form. She is also unlikely to get a credit card at any juncture if only because it can be tracked and if someone actually figures out it is hers they could drop on her head less than a minute after she makes a purchase. So that means cash only and always in different forms. At the absolute best you are going to be able to grab her recipients from her trashcan but that again requires that you are capable of keeping track of her on top of the new problem of her possibly just throwing away any receipt she gets before reaching her base of operations. So yeah, it would be kind of silly and I put way too much thought into this.
We just saw what the number man did, he can't be perfectly unique if what I hear about thinkers and I'm not sure if he level of Loom snarling deception kills all tracking vectors.
 
Larekko12 said:
We just saw what the number man did, he can't be perfectly unique if what I hear about thinkers and I'm not sure if he level of Loom snarling deception kills all tracking vectors.
It hacks reality to change your identity, so anything trying to track HER will fail. Tracking credit cards and the like still works, until she catches on and works up a custom charm anyway.
 
Ryune said:
Precog only. It doesn't kill tracking vectors at all. You can still do all of the normal detective work or use of magic statistics. Effectively if it can't be covered under the banner of "knowledge from literally nowhere" it will still work. At least to the point that she gets charms that actually prevent tracking.
Not quite. It also changes your appearance and body, so it spoofs DNA and forsenics just fine. Basically, every time she uses it to shift forms, almost all vectors get thrown off. Mix with Transcendent Desert Creature and they basically have to get someone with tracking as a power so things will go to essence roll-off.
 
pheonix89 said:
It hacks reality to change your identity, so anything trying to track HER will fail. Tracking credit cards and the like still works, until she catches on and works up a custom charm anyway.
pheonix89 said:
Not quite. It also changes your appearance and body, so it spoofs DNA and forsenics just fine. Basically, every time she uses it to shift forms, almost all vectors get thrown off. Mix with Transcendent Desert Creature and they basically have to get someone with tracking as a power so things will go to essence roll-off.
EH? the first level does that? In Rihaku quest we needed to get upgrades to get higher level and more fully real disguises.

As well in story her disguise seems much more like a shell than actual shapeshifting.
 
LSD makes a false fate. Its only with ESM that you can hide the fact that you are an exalt. LSD is non-magical/Essence disguise and ESM makes it complete. With powers they might find Taylor while she is disguised but not with physical evidences. Even Blood samples will give a different result.
 
Larekko12 said:
As well in story her disguise seems much more like a shell than actual shapeshifting.
Though she can shapeshift into shadows (if I'm remembering the right fic - there's so many to keep track of now :p), so perhaps the shapeshifting is a natural extension/consequence of that?
 
Larekko12 said:
EH? the first level does that? In Rihaku quest we needed to get upgrades to get higher level and more fully real disguises.

As well in story her disguise seems much more like a shell than actual shapeshifting.
Loom-Snarling Deception can't be resisted using willpower, can't be seen through using mundane methods, and is difficult to see through using charms.
 
Harish said:
LSD makes a false fate. Its only with ESM that you can hide the fact that you are an exalt. LSD is non-magical/Essence disguise and ESM makes it complete. With powers they might find Taylor while she is disguised but not with physical evidences. Even Blood samples will give a different result.
Wait if she doesn't have the Passive fate ducking won't she start turning up to precogs if she's not burning essence constantly?
 
Creticus said:
Loom-Snarling Deception can't be resisted using willpower, can't be seen through using mundane methods, and is difficult to see through using charms.
TED's Charms are pretty godsdamned broken, in general. Their one weakness is that they're being used by the the Ebon Dragon; conveniently, Taylor does not have this problem.

And yes, being Legend is suffering. Were he to be summoned in the Grail War, he'd probably wind up a Lancer.
 
Creticus said:
Loom-Snarling Deception can't be resisted using willpower, can't be seen through using mundane methods, and is difficult to see through using charms.
Except with copious use of lysergic acid diethylamide.:p
 
Undead-Spaceman said:
This part here sounds pretty awkward to me, I had to reread that a few times to get what she meant.
Changing it to:
If she shows up in your respective areas, keeping her alive, and preferably on our side, is very important.
 
Larekko12 said:
Wait if she doesn't have the Passive fate ducking won't she start turning up to precogs if she's not burning essence constantly?
She does have a passive resistance to precogs in the sense that she doesn't exist as far as their powers are concerned so anything that involves her is probably going to be predicted wrong. The active one that causes blind spots, that draw attention is only when she sets of blasphemies or spends massive amounts of essence.

In an amusing bit of irony when she uses loom-snarling deception her passive precog resistance changes from her not existing to her being the fake person that she is pretending to be. She can control what fate/destiny says about her false identity to the point that in creation infernals using LSD can communicate with each other from opposite sides of the world by leaving messages in their fake destiny and using astrology on each others futures.
 
Larekko12 said:
Wait if she doesn't have the Passive fate ducking won't she start turning up to precogs if she's not burning essence constantly?
Pretty much this.....
cyberswordsmen said:
She does have a passive resistance to precogs in the sense that she doesn't exist as far as their powers are concerned so anything that involves her is probably going to be predicted wrong. The active one that causes blind spots, that draw attention is only when she sets of blasphemies or spends massive amounts of essence.

In an amusing bit of irony when she uses loom-snarling deception her passive precog resistance changes from her not existing to her being the fake person that she is pretending to be. She can control what fate/destiny says about her false identity to the point that in creation infernals using LSD can communicate with each other from opposite sides of the world by leaving messages in their fake destiny and using astrology on each others futures.
 
Oh yeah. I forgot Infernal were the ones who passively fate duck. Been reading too much Exalted worm.
 
Infernal Monster Style.....with it Taylor can do this.....


Any Chance Taylor is going to learn this logic?

Also

Sidereals Worse Nightmares

"Though the Five-Score Fellowship has no overt inkling of the upcoming
Reclamation, Arcadelt, the God of World-Shattering Events, has
cheerfully noted that he has been steadily increasing in personal
puissance for the past five years. Needless to say, this has the vast
majority of Heaven very worried."



They are inherently outside of fate.

They have Blasphemy Charms which cause alarm bells and klaxons to go off in Heaven.

Their most potent Charms require Adamant Countermagic to shut down.

They tend to cause all kinds of horrific disruptions in destiny.

They can hide inside of fake destinies.
(See Ebon Dragon charms)

Here is the full version.
 
pheonix89 said:
Not really. Alexandria is pretty much invulnerable, so the other two can easily avoid hurting her, Legend can just stick with beam-spam from a distance while keeping the power output below what can break whatever power Eidolon is defending with while he just uses one to defend, one to attack and one to maintain distance. Remember, Contessa is still physically human - if Legend goes airborne and starts beamspamming from outside of the range of whatever gun she has, she's fucked.
Eh, it would depend on the specifics of the situation. And if Contessa gets into a fight, it's almost certainly going to be in a situation where she can win.
 
malhavoc431 said:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh shit I can't stop laughing. You made my night. And yes, please God yes, let Taylor start doing this sort of Hulk-style shenanigans. "Puny god."
World-Breaker Grip

Cost: 5m, 1wp; Mins: Martial Arts 5, Essence 3; Type: Supplemental
Keywords: Combo-OK
Duration: Until Released
Prerequisite Charms: None
This Charm basically allows the Infernal Monster to hold an opponent by the arm or leg and use her as a weapon. This Charm allows special exceptions to the Grapple rules. See the full text of the Charm for details.

So yes it is entirely possible for taylor to do that.
 
malhavoc431 said:
Oh holy shit please say any of the Infernal Castes can use this. Please.
In fact, any demons can use it as long as they meet those re-req, so Taylor could theoretically teach it to demons she summons or people she turns into demons. Not that it will happen because that's completely OOC.
 
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