Fiend; or I how I learned to stop worrying and love the Green Sun. (Exalted/Worm)

gideon020 said:
Essentially, a spirit-computer who's job is to maintain the Order-Conferring Trading Pattern, the pattern of commerce that helps stabilize Creation against the Wyld (Chaos), by keeping all the parts connected to each other.

It will also talk to you, if you are lonely.

EDIT: This is First Age, of course. In the splat-time, I AM is barely a memory. To gods and sids.
 
Oh, THANK YOU.

Damn, i was worried it would simply go the usual fanfic way of "railroad into canon" where she meets the undersiders/lung and is taken by them, and then proceed to have similar 'missions' than in canon.

Now to hoping that she becomes a nice, interesting kind of mercenary/gang-leader/ Mother/windrunner
 
Carrnage said:
Is I AM a hollow mind or not?
You could try to use Hollow Mind Possession on it, but good luck. It's third only to the Sword of Creation and the Order Conferring Trading Pattern in complexity, geomantically. It's basically a Culture Mind, built by Solars.
 
I AM is still alive, albeit vastly reduced and basicly crippled in the second age, as well as having gone rampant during the Shogunate. (DBed were not sufficiently worthy of respect to be served forever.)
Everym is what it is called, however. Terminals to access it are limited, however.
 
Arkeus said:
Oh, THANK YOU.

Damn, i was worried it would simply go the usual fanfic way of "railroad into canon" where she meets the undersiders/lung and is taken by them, and then proceed to have similar 'missions' than in canon.

Now to hoping that she becomes a nice, interesting kind of mercenary/gang-leader/ Mother/windrunner
Nah. That wouldn't be fun at all. This is fun.
Carrnage said:
So it's Rank N/A? or rank 5? one is impossible (without a good narrative reason) the other just supremely difficult.
It's also built by Solars to probably be resistant to SWLIHN.
Undead-Spaceman said:
Hmm, New York huh? Didn't the Travelers stay in New York for a while?
They might meet.
acb said:
"Great idea to chase her out of the Bay, guys, because instead of some backwater experiencing precog problems, you want those problems to start moving to major metropolises with more moving parts."
Of course, that is conditional on them knowing she is in NYC at the moment.
Endymion said:
So she's headed to New York City, fun thing is most of the NYC Metro area is considered urban, no chance of the Imperfection of the Demon City kicking in. The entire place is surrounded by water (Kimbery's good), and considering this is Worm!Verse desolation shouldn't be hard to find.

Though if Leviathan ends up attacking New York, well don't pull a Hollywood. Look at a map; tsunamis would break on Staten Island and Brooklyn.
No worries on the latter. Sandy was educational on that.

Oh yes. What better place?
illhousen said:
Huh, at first I thought you were referring to AM (Allied Mastercomputer, Adaptive Manipulator,.. Aggressive Menace) from "I Have No Mouth and I Must Sceam". As you may imagine, not a very nice guy. Malfeas would go along with him, though. They both have the great capacity to hate... And AM is basically a geographic feature rivaling the Demon City.
What?
Rask said:
So Sophia is really dead. I wasn't expecting that. Taylor is on the run, no surprise there. The real question is what she'll decide to do now.

Also, does her face remain recognisable in shintai form?
She's dead, Jim Rask.

And, in so much as you can recognize the George Washington on Mount Rushmore, as his eyes and mouth glow with the hateful green fire of Liger, face twisted in rage, craggy with armor.
 
Carrnage said:
But i digress, Will Hollow mind Possession affect Dragon?
It would. If Taylor learned it. Which is very, very, very, unlikely
ScreenXSurfer said:
AM.

The computer filled with the most hatred in all of fiction.

It oddly fit with "hatred powers" so those of us who didn't know who I AM (therefor I think?) is thought you were talking about AM.
Ah, ok. So that's where that came from.

And no, I AM is a pretty chill gal. Sorta gal. Whatever, she likes to use female forms for her terminals.
 
Jaertin said:
I can't help but wonder what would happen if Contessa broke an oath that Taylor had witnessed.
If I understand correctly, part of her power is to do things perfectly, while the consequences of oath breaking is to fail horribly at the worst possible moment.
Would the oath-curse overpower her ability, or would she be able to mitigate things somewhat?

I'm hoping for the former, because the image of Contessa going in to do her usual effortless win, only to trip over her own feet, is hilarious. Seriously, can you imagine her face.:D
Should've helped Taylor move her couch, Contessa. Especially when you swore you would.
 
Will Taylor get any cult from that video? She's got the at least the nation and probably the world terrified of her. I would bet she also surpasses the endbringers in terms of awe inspiring and raw terror just by her form, though she hasn't done anything bad to back that up other than killing Sophia and damaging her school.

I have also got to say that whoever took that cell phone video was either a Caldron plant or the bravest student in history. That guy has a hell of a lot of balls. Everyone else was running for their lives, Taylor had already demonstrated an AoE fire attack, tackled someone through a wall with super strength, and he was like "I got this". Whoever it is has a glorious, if short, future ahead of him in war reporting.
 
Endymion said:
I wonder about what Cecelyne Charms Taylor might pick up? Parahumans Online seems like a great place to pick up a ready made cult.
I don't know about Cecelyne but the Kimbery charm All Things Betray would seem appropriate if things continue as they are. When your a wanted criminal, betrayal is always around the corner, although I have trouble deciding which IBT she'd get first.
 
Sure, but the upgrades work up to gods and elementals, then Exalted...basically with enough work it becomes discriminating enough for anything you want to look for. :p

Custom charms for the crossover win :D
 
Undead-Spaceman said:
Hmm, New York huh? Didn't the Travelers stay in New York for a while?
That would actually be very interesting. Could Taylor help Noelle, I wonder? Do infernals have something to transfer mutations from one person to the other? If so, this might help (transfer the control part of her power to Noelle from that guy who has it). If no, she still might revert Noelle to a more normal form, maybe. Hell, from what I read of Bu Rage Recast, there's an additional charm that allows Taylor to bestow mutations from her arsenal to those who swear fealty to her. This may actually be very useful here - stone skin / body may just prevent Noelle's powers from working, turning her life to the better (and that's saying a lot, when being stuck in the form made out of black obsidian is an improvement of your situation / condition).

Also, if she sticks with Travelers, she might even flee to Earth Aleph. Which would be hilarious.
illhousen said:
Taylor: I want to be a hero!
Brospider: Go conquer some city, that always works.
Taylor: That's... strangely appealing but not very heroic behavior.
Brospider: Oh, please, kill enough people and the survivors will call you hero, queen, goddess or whatever else you desire.
That actually works. No, seriously - travel to some third world hell-hole, oust the dictator and his army, establish a safe haven.
 
Yog said:
That actually works. No, seriously - travel to some third world hell-hole, oust the dictator and his army, establish a safe haven.
Worm Spoiler: Actually, one of the biggest, baddest, strongest cape ever already did this, though i wouldn't count her territory as 'safe haven'
 
Arkeus said:
Worm Spoiler: Actually, one of the biggest, baddest, strongest cape ever already did this, though i wouldn't count her territory as 'safe haven'
Yeah, I know. But Taylor could actually do better. I am speaking about
If the character knows the Charm Fealty-Acknowledging Audience (see The Manual of Exalted Power—The Infernals, p. 116), then she may pay a surcharge of +5m when invoking that Charm to gift those who swear fealty to her with up to eight points of mutations she is capable of manifesting with By Rage Recast. This gift is a permanent Desecration.
Assume she takes over a (small) country. A country with a military force. A military force that swears fealty to her as a supreme ruler. Now she has an army of relatively powerful parahumans at her command.
 
illhousen said:
Also, transferring "control part" from the other guy wouldn't work. Noelle is the way she is because she has some mental disorder and was not meant to have powers in the first place. At best it would cause second trigger which may make everything even worse.
Noelle is that way because she drank only half the formula. Another guy drank the second half, presumably getting the control part of her power.
 
Yog said:
Yeah, I know. But Taylor could actually do better. I am speaking about

Assume she takes over a (small) country. A country with a military force. A military force that swears fealty to her as a supreme ruler. Now she has an army of relatively powerful parahumans at her command.
She doesn't have this charm, and we have been told that she won't take any more Malfeas charm for a good long while. There are however some semi-similar charms from Kimbery themed around filial duty, though they probably won't be the type Taylor take (as she will also focus on Adorjan, who isn't for stifling people's freedom).
 
illhousen said:
Mental disorder was a part of it. There is a reason why Cauldron actually bothers to check their clients' mental health. Spoiled reason is also valid, though I'm not sure it's "control part". The guy in question didn't have any control either. I'm actually unsure what Cauldron formula even is, but I kinda doubt it's a liquefied passenger. Probably something that causes people to connect with the existing passenger collected by Cauldron and guides the trigger analogue. Also remember that more than one person can be connected to a specific passenger at the same time as evidenced by Slaughterhouse 9000. What would happen if Noelle suddenly gained whats-his-name's mutation... well, your guess is as good as mine.

P.S. Spoilers. They burn ussss.
If I was to guess, the combined power would be to "turn into copy of any cape you touch" or something along those lines.
 
So, which entry path to Kimbery charms will Taylor take? Intolerable Burning Truths or Mother Sea Mastery?
To me it seems more likely that she would pick IBT, but which truths? Mother Before Daughter? Trust is Naive? Existence is Agony? Never Forgive? Hate Springs Eternal? My guess would be either Hate Springs Eternal or Never Forgive. Existence is Agony seems like going down the dark side too fast, and the first two, well, she cut off ties to Danny, so they seems like an u-turn at this point.

Also, yes, I think she will pick up Kimbery charms before she starts on Cecelyne, because she will need to calm down before she is in the right mindset of the later.
 
Starfield said:
So, which entry path to Kimbery charms will Taylor take? Intolerable Burning Truths or Mother Sea Mastery?
To me it seems more likely that she would pick IBT, but which truths? Mother Before Daughter? Trust is Naive? Existence is Agony? Never Forgive? Hate Springs Eternal? My guess would be either Hate Springs Eternal or Never Forgive. Existence is Agony seems like going down the dark side too fast, and the first two, well, she cut off ties to Danny, so they seems like an u-turn at this point.
She cut ties to him in order to protect him though. Anyway, given the last 3 updates i think Taylor will first get Adorjan charms, maybe she is going to go Freedom Lets Go (the scene where she is cutting ties) and now she needs 'some way to live/do with not much money' AND she just ran from her home, which screams all kind of Adorjan things like Running To Forever and possibly Unimpeded Perfection of Exertion. Also, she might go the Tragic Love amusement route if she does want to make new friends.
 
Arkeus said:
She cut ties to him in order to protect him though. Anyway, given the last 3 updates i think Taylor will first get Adorjan charms, maybe she is going to go Freedom Lets Go (the scene where she is cutting ties) and now she needs 'some way to live/do with not much money' AND she just ran from her home, which screams all kind of Adorjan things like Running To Forever and possibly Unimpeded Perfection of Exertion. Also, she might go the Tragic Love amusement route if she does want to make new friends.
That doesn't really fit Freedom Lets Go, though. She's running away specifically because she cares and wants to protect Danny, not because she wants to. If she stopped caring about that, chances are that she'd turn around and start trying to get revenge on the Brockton Bay PRT for dicking her around and spoiling her dreams.
 
Screwball said:
That doesn't really fit Freedom Lets Go, though. She's running away specifically because she cares and wants to protect Danny, not because she wants to.
Yeah, i could see this going either to IBT (Mother Before Daughter) or Freedom Lets Go, depending on how Logic wants to take things.

That's why i responded thus to the IBT parts in the same post :p
 
Harish said:
How does that fit well? Because I don't see it. Also what will it do to her?
Well, Freedom Lets Go essentially makes it really easy for the Infernal to go 'I don't care about X anymore,' which obviously isn't a good fit with 'running away from everything you love to protect it'. If you don't love it anymore, you have no reason to run away.

Intolerable Burning Truths: Mother Before Daughter could be summed up as 'ancestors are more important than you are'. It more or less makes the Infernal completely incapable of betraying an ancestor (in this case, a parent), potentially obsessed with protecting or helping them, and allows the Infernal to know where that person is a lot more easily. Needless to say, the manifestation of this need not be at all healthy; Taylor could be reasonably expected to end up stalking Danny, for example. It fits a lot better with the theme of running away in order to protect her family than would severing all emotional ties to the very thing she's trying to protect.
 
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