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- Earth
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- He/Him/They/Them
Master of Steel? (Like a play on "Mind of Steel")
Fate/Dark Reflection
- Thread starter AbyssalDivine
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- Crossover Fantasy Action
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Oh yeah, that one's not bad.
Edit: Yep couldn't think of anything better, so that'll be it! You'll be getting your royalty check in the mail soon.
Edit's edit: That hasn't helped at all actually, because I can only change the thread header, not the actual Quest name. I am doomed.
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Fate/Agility Betting
Fate/Mind of Steel
That's what the Bad End is mostly known as, and we have a trait of the same name which will carry us if we max out willpower.)
Other names with 'Steel' on it would probably be good too (be creative please.)
Poor QM. Guess you have to struggle with future version of this with (v3) and a (v4) un the unforseeable horizon rip lol
- Location
- USA
Yes you can? You should be able to edit that part of the quest unless they changed things.
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- He/She/They
Unless I am missing a button here, it sure doesn't seem it.
Edit: Nevermind! I got it. I was just blind, yes.
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- USA
See you only needed to grow some eyes! 🃏
Names for this Quest (Assuming Heaven's Fall wins)
-Fate/Stardust
-Fate/Creator of (insert faction that he joined here)
-Fate/Red Guardian (if Speed Demon wins and gets the Red Shroud, plus he's a redhead)
-Fate/Blade Bombardier (for The Other Type of Ranger Combat)
-Honkai: Star Rail Meets the Blade Lover
-Honkai: Star Rail/The Hero of Justice
-Fate/Stay Night: A Second Chance for Heroics
-That One Time, a Sword Boy got the Isekai Treatment and fell Inside a Space Station
-Fate/Hero's New Brave Shine
-Fate/After our Last Stardust
-Fate/When my Life was Permanently Altered by Dropkicking the King of Heroes
-Fate/Stardust
-Fate/Creator of (insert faction that he joined here)
-Fate/Red Guardian (if Speed Demon wins and gets the Red Shroud, plus he's a redhead)
-Fate/Blade Bombardier (for The Other Type of Ranger Combat)
-Honkai: Star Rail Meets the Blade Lover
-Honkai: Star Rail/The Hero of Justice
-Fate/Stay Night: A Second Chance for Heroics
-That One Time, a Sword Boy got the Isekai Treatment and fell Inside a Space Station
-Fate/Hero's New Brave Shine
-Fate/After our Last Stardust
-Fate/When my Life was Permanently Altered by Dropkicking the King of Heroes
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If somehow FrakenShirou wins
-Shattered Moon/Shattered Souls
-Shattered Moon/Shattered Souls
Another thing, I want to vote for Plan: Speed Demon of Archery in Space, but with [Eroge Protagonist B] as one of the chosen perks makes me just not want to vote for it, mostly because I'm afraid shirou is going to try and save someone, and it would be substantially better for both his own livelihood and mental wellbeing, along with others lives that he got [Bloodhound C], because it's meshes so well with the rest of his build, and enhances his ability to keep himself and others alive, which would provide us with less reason to avoid dangerous situations, which means that His Flaw [Marty Complex] wont activate, which leads to not having to deal with the stacking debuff it provides.
Here, just let demonstrate my problem with it in numbers, [Eroge Protagonist B] provides +10 Influence when dealing with a female character, and Affection gain with them is increased by 25%, and his base insight goes down by a rank, or effectively a -5 to insight, which means that shirou gets a total bonus from this effect of +5 total skill up in his social skills when dealing with females, and an 25% affection boost when talking with females, not great, but still a positive, expect that's not the full picture, shirou's -5 insight from the perk doesn't just affect females, it also affects males, since it lowers shirou's base insight. This is a problem since it is a social perk that now actively makes him worse at talking with people, with the now total bonus from the perks effects being a +5 total social skill gain for when he's dealing with a females, and a 25% bonus to affection gains from female interactions, along with a -5 total social skill deduction when interacting with male characters, with no affection gain bonus applied. So Shirou gets slightly better at interacting with female characters, and is now slightly worse at interacting with male characters. Meaning the skill in totality gets a bonus to affection gain of 25% interacting with female characters, and a total skill gain bonus of 0. Not good, it really doesn't do much for him. When compared to other perks you would hope it's about roughly as powerful as the others to make it a viable choice. But it's just not very good.
For this build in specific though it has a perk that's competing for it's position as the chosen [Trait Resurgence Perk] in the form of [Bloodhound C], which for the build of Speed Demon of Archery in Space is an amazing perk, [Bloodhound C] has the effect of
Awareness increases by a rank, which is equal to a +5 , and rolls attempting to track something magical(or equivalent) will be calculated as though your Awareness was two ranks higher, equal to a +10, If you sense something before you see it, you'll be able to add your Awareness modifier to the subsequent roll to avoid or endure it.(Reflex, Grit, even Composure in some weird
circumstances.). Base Heaven's Fall shirou already has C rank for Awareness and Reflex, giving him a +5 to both types of rolls. This skill turns his awareness +5 into a +10, or a B rank skill, that can then be applied to reflex, grit, and occasionally composure, primarily in this case Reflex. which if shirou just shuts his eyes, turns his Reflex rolls into +15, which is really nice. but were not finished just yet. Reflex rolls have Agility as the primary stat they operate under, which means Reflex rolls get Agility bonuses added to their total. At base Heaven's Fall shirou has a D for Agility, or a bonus of +0, This turns into a +5 from the effect [Swallow's Grace B] increasing his agility into a C, which then turn into a C+ from the effect of [Wind's Fury E], which makes the agility bonus a +7, and with the second effect from [wind's fury E], the bonus for agility when applied to Reflex rolls is now a +11, which added together with the +15 from the Awareness boosted Reflex rolls we get a total bonus for reflex rolls of +26. This is ignoring that Reinforcement could be used to increase the rank of Agility from C+ to B+, which would increase the standard Agility bonus to +12, and when it's being applied to Reflex rolls then it turns into a +18, making the Reinforcement Awareness boosted Reflex roll a +32, and if it happens to be a magic attack then it's futher boosted to a +42. It also crits when we roll on a 95 instead of a 100. On top of all that was previously mentioned, the effects can become substantially stronger as we train our agility stat, Awareness Skill or Reflex Skill. It is altogether a perk that meshes fantastically with the plan, but was instead replaced by Eroge Protagonist, which I do not think fits thematically with the rest of the build, or is particularly synergistic with it.
If [Eroge protagonist B] was something like +10 influence when dealing with a female character, and a 25% bonus to affection gains from female interactions, along with a +10 insight when interacting with male characters, then i wouldn't have a problem with it, it shows that he's still denser with the female character feelings than the male one's, since he upon meeting a majority of the male cast just understands what inner nature is, he instinctively didn't like archer and the feeling was recuperated, he's been friends with shinji and issei for years, he immediately notices that there is something deeply wrong with kirei. Shirou is a fairly insightful person altogether, he just happened to be especially bad at understanding his love interests' emotions. All this to say that I find Eroge Protagonist B to be a bit on the weaker side and I believe that it should receive a buff. Thank you for your time.
Here, just let demonstrate my problem with it in numbers, [Eroge Protagonist B] provides +10 Influence when dealing with a female character, and Affection gain with them is increased by 25%, and his base insight goes down by a rank, or effectively a -5 to insight, which means that shirou gets a total bonus from this effect of +5 total skill up in his social skills when dealing with females, and an 25% affection boost when talking with females, not great, but still a positive, expect that's not the full picture, shirou's -5 insight from the perk doesn't just affect females, it also affects males, since it lowers shirou's base insight. This is a problem since it is a social perk that now actively makes him worse at talking with people, with the now total bonus from the perks effects being a +5 total social skill gain for when he's dealing with a females, and a 25% bonus to affection gains from female interactions, along with a -5 total social skill deduction when interacting with male characters, with no affection gain bonus applied. So Shirou gets slightly better at interacting with female characters, and is now slightly worse at interacting with male characters. Meaning the skill in totality gets a bonus to affection gain of 25% interacting with female characters, and a total skill gain bonus of 0. Not good, it really doesn't do much for him. When compared to other perks you would hope it's about roughly as powerful as the others to make it a viable choice. But it's just not very good.
For this build in specific though it has a perk that's competing for it's position as the chosen [Trait Resurgence Perk] in the form of [Bloodhound C], which for the build of Speed Demon of Archery in Space is an amazing perk, [Bloodhound C] has the effect of
Awareness increases by a rank, which is equal to a +5 , and rolls attempting to track something magical(or equivalent) will be calculated as though your Awareness was two ranks higher, equal to a +10, If you sense something before you see it, you'll be able to add your Awareness modifier to the subsequent roll to avoid or endure it.(Reflex, Grit, even Composure in some weird
circumstances.). Base Heaven's Fall shirou already has C rank for Awareness and Reflex, giving him a +5 to both types of rolls. This skill turns his awareness +5 into a +10, or a B rank skill, that can then be applied to reflex, grit, and occasionally composure, primarily in this case Reflex. which if shirou just shuts his eyes, turns his Reflex rolls into +15, which is really nice. but were not finished just yet. Reflex rolls have Agility as the primary stat they operate under, which means Reflex rolls get Agility bonuses added to their total. At base Heaven's Fall shirou has a D for Agility, or a bonus of +0, This turns into a +5 from the effect [Swallow's Grace B] increasing his agility into a C, which then turn into a C+ from the effect of [Wind's Fury E], which makes the agility bonus a +7, and with the second effect from [wind's fury E], the bonus for agility when applied to Reflex rolls is now a +11, which added together with the +15 from the Awareness boosted Reflex rolls we get a total bonus for reflex rolls of +26. This is ignoring that Reinforcement could be used to increase the rank of Agility from C+ to B+, which would increase the standard Agility bonus to +12, and when it's being applied to Reflex rolls then it turns into a +18, making the Reinforcement Awareness boosted Reflex roll a +32, and if it happens to be a magic attack then it's futher boosted to a +42. It also crits when we roll on a 95 instead of a 100. On top of all that was previously mentioned, the effects can become substantially stronger as we train our agility stat, Awareness Skill or Reflex Skill. It is altogether a perk that meshes fantastically with the plan, but was instead replaced by Eroge Protagonist, which I do not think fits thematically with the rest of the build, or is particularly synergistic with it.
If [Eroge protagonist B] was something like +10 influence when dealing with a female character, and a 25% bonus to affection gains from female interactions, along with a +10 insight when interacting with male characters, then i wouldn't have a problem with it, it shows that he's still denser with the female character feelings than the male one's, since he upon meeting a majority of the male cast just understands what inner nature is, he instinctively didn't like archer and the feeling was recuperated, he's been friends with shinji and issei for years, he immediately notices that there is something deeply wrong with kirei. Shirou is a fairly insightful person altogether, he just happened to be especially bad at understanding his love interests' emotions. All this to say that I find Eroge Protagonist B to be a bit on the weaker side and I believe that it should receive a buff. Thank you for your time.
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Birthday
Have a Happy One!
- Location
- Somewhere
@MechaPhoenix I mean, you could just create an alternate plan that exchanges Eroge Protag for Bloodhound. We're doing approval voting, so you could vote for this new plan as well as Speed Demon, and then erase your Space Demon vote if it looks like your Star Rail Bloodhound build is about to win.
That's fair, and i will now do so, thank you for the advice.
[X] Plan: Hyperesthesia
-[X] Heaven's Fall
-[X] Swallow's Grace B
-[X] Prodigious Archer C+
-[X] Bloodhound C
-[X] Wind's Fury E
[X]Plan: Lucky Devil
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No division between bonding/grinding. I haven't fully decided the action count for each just yet.
Creating his own Plan right now would be pointless due to the short time remaining.
I was planning on having Signature Weapons D- at first for optimization of the bow, alongside Kanshou & Bakuya (while focusing on the physical stats). If you guys want me to use Bloodhound C or another Perk instead of Eroge Protagonist B, you can say so. I want to hear the potential possibilities.
I was planning on having Signature Weapons D- at first for optimization of the bow, alongside Kanshou & Bakuya (while focusing on the physical stats). If you guys want me to use Bloodhound C or another Perk instead of Eroge Protagonist B, you can say so. I want to hear the potential possibilities.
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Birthday
Have a Happy One!
- Location
- Somewhere
It still costs nothing to try. I'm assuming that changing the original plan is going to be unfeasible since it would be unfair to the people who want Eroge Protag as part of the Build.
Hey, I'll vote for that. Kanshou and Bakuya build sounds interesting.
[X] Plan: Hyperesthesia
[X]Plan: The Other Type of Ranged Combat
[X] Plan: Speed Demon of Archery in Space
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The Signature Weapons D- part of the build?
I can do that, but I'll wait to see if someone else comments on the build, probably a good move since Blessed Archer is the Charisma build for Heaven's Fall and is the least voted (some voters changed plans, it seems, according to the tally.) Keep in mind that if I do that, I will focus on bringing Agility to B+ as the first thing, increasing Research and alternating between increasing Endurance and Strength (Endurance would be the first since it's the closest to the C Rank to the +5 Modifier).
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Birthday
Have a Happy One!
- Location
- Somewhere
Sounds like a plan!
I agree with Birthday on that idea is probably the best build overall that has been presented. Edit: thinking it over again, i still believe that having Bloodhound C has a greater effect than Signature Weapons D-, though the effect it provides it still good.
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-Signature Weapons D-
(Heaven's Fall rankdown)
Your consistent use of Kanshou and Bakuya have made them more comfortable to use, though you've noticed your other weapons have started being harder to trace.
Your starting weapons are 25% cheaper, and have a bonus of +3. Non-signature weapons cost 10% more.
-Streamlined Manufacturing
Archer's shared experience has made your tracing far more effective than it would've been. However you're still a long way from the heights he had reached.
Projecting weapons causes 20% less strain on your magic circuits, and their quality won't be affected by mana overuse.
-Wind's Fury E
(Holy Grail Completed or Heaven's Fall only)
Your other self's great speed has been partially transferred, making you more nimble.
Your Agility is changed to the plus(+) version of its current rank(even if it's currently a minus(-), and you can add half of your Agility modifier to any Reflex, Stealth, or Athletics check you make.
-Swallow's Grace B
Your dexterity is enhanced by the spirit of the serene Assassin.
Your Agility increases by a rank, and a roll is considered a critical success if it is 95 or above, instead of 100.
Reflex, Stealth and Athletics gets half of our current Agility modifier (We start with C+ Rank), alongside a +3 Modifier to our bow or Kanshou & Bakuya if those rolls are related to defending or attacking with our weapons.
(Heaven's Fall rankdown)
Your consistent use of Kanshou and Bakuya have made them more comfortable to use, though you've noticed your other weapons have started being harder to trace.
Your starting weapons are 25% cheaper, and have a bonus of +3. Non-signature weapons cost 10% more.
-Streamlined Manufacturing
Archer's shared experience has made your tracing far more effective than it would've been. However you're still a long way from the heights he had reached.
Projecting weapons causes 20% less strain on your magic circuits, and their quality won't be affected by mana overuse.
-Wind's Fury E
(Holy Grail Completed or Heaven's Fall only)
Your other self's great speed has been partially transferred, making you more nimble.
Your Agility is changed to the plus(+) version of its current rank(even if it's currently a minus(-), and you can add half of your Agility modifier to any Reflex, Stealth, or Athletics check you make.
-Swallow's Grace B
Your dexterity is enhanced by the spirit of the serene Assassin.
Your Agility increases by a rank, and a roll is considered a critical success if it is 95 or above, instead of 100.
Reflex, Stealth and Athletics gets half of our current Agility modifier (We start with C+ Rank), alongside a +3 Modifier to our bow or Kanshou & Bakuya if those rolls are related to defending or attacking with our weapons.
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Wait we're allowed to do that? Just change our plans? That's legal?
As long as we don't change the whole plan name, messing up the votes and tell everyone what we have changed, yes we can.