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[Fallout 4] The Second Survivor

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My idea would be that short-term, we need to loot whatever's left of Sanctuary Hills. The way I see it, it's common sense - getting all the pieces laid out in front of us so we know what we're working with in the immediate future.

How good (or bad) the situation is there helps inform whether we try to establish this as our home base for the foreseeable future or set out for greener pastures. I'd lean toward scavenging the Red Rocket, too, sometime this month.

From there, we try to keep a low profile. Skilled as we are, we're currently rocking "kill my ass" vinyl catsuits with complementary Pre-War tech; any Raider who sees us is going to jump on that opportunity with both hands.

hcvquizibo said:
The vault as much as we hate it is a safe and dry shelter. What we need is safe and renewable sources of food and water.
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If we can find a service ladder or something, I'm down with bunking in the Vault. Speaking semi-IC, trusting a 200-year-old mechanized lift to carry us in and out of a steel tomb several times a day without ever breaking down or running out of power scares the piss right out of me, unless there's some alternate method of ingress/egress to fall back on.
 
Upon reflection, food and water, sustainable at that, should be easy.

First thing to do is check the rads of the river. If we can figure out how much rads it's got, if it has any, then that's one issue done. Otherwise, we're in for rough times. While the Vault has a nice bit of stored water, and 2 people won't deplete it for some time with just drinking.... That's not a long term solution. Actually, we could try digging a shaft like 5-10 feet away from the river, let the earth filter the rads out.

The big worry is, well, radiation. Simply put, if the river is out, our options are thus:

1. Rain collectors and just bite the radiation we'd get from it. Tough, but hey, better then nil.

2. We make a shitload of water collectors, this'll take some plastic and other bits, but assuming the weather isn't too FUBAR, we should be fine. Also has radiation risks, but hey, what can you do?

3. Hit up Concord's city planning area and see if they recorded where the local aquifers and such are. Assuming the place is intact and the records aren't being used as kindling or TP.

Hell, even if it IS radioactive, there's a easy filter to make that should remove it.

Food though.... Without seed crop, we are going to have to do a shitload of hunting, and just pray.
 
GardenerBriareus said:
Skilled as we are, we're currently rocking "kill my ass" vinyl catsuits with complementary Pre-War tech; any Raider who sees us is going to jump on that opportunity with both hands.
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Thankfully, we've changed back to normal clothes in 1-4 (with Vault-Tec security armour overtop), so we just look like suspiciously clean (and paranoid) city folk.
 
I mean, using game logic, we should probably hit up our character's police station, since there might somehow still be some loot there. But using real logic, everything would be picked clean anyway.
 
Spoit said:
I mean, using game logic, we should probably hit up our character's police station, since there might somehow still be some loot there. But using real logic, everything would be picked clean anyway.
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Yeah, but there's a difference between a suburban house having loot and a PD station having loot.
 
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    • Spoit said:
    I mean, using game logic, we should probably hit up our character's police station, since there might somehow still be some loot there. But using real logic, everything would be picked clean anyway.
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    I've been mulling over this divide. It's an important element of the quest - any quest - and often the root of the bitterest arguments between posters. I'd tend to lean more to game logic, as a) I'm so very tired of Shepard Quest's acres of exposition on whether or not this would be sensible IN REAL LIFE TM; b) Fallout isn't quite realistic; c) special locations the characters might be able to loot first has been a feature since the beginning:smile: d) it makes my life easier if I know where the items they might want are.

    An old GM trick is "rulings, not rules". So it'll be basically Survival Mode+:
    • There will be no building huge settlements in a night, singlehanded, from tree trunks, rusty cars and old-world money.
    • Food and water will be needed.
    • Radiation will make you increasingly sick if you aren't careful, but a doctor can cure you.
    • Power armour is rare. New power armour will be locked up in military bases. Still debating on the availability of PA to raiders - I don't want you to die, but a power-armoured raider boss is appropriately fearsome.
    • Items will be roughly where you expect, there'll just be less of them.
    • Ammo is scarce - not Mad Max 2, one-shell-left-and-then-its-a-club scarce, but there may be an advantage to having a sidearm with common ammo and an easy melee weapon.
    • Normal armour can stop one shot, better quality two or three, with increasing likelihood that it will get through after the fourth and fifth.
    • Lasers do not have recoil. However, they paint a glowing red line straight towards your position.

    In this particular case, you could argue to the character's logic. Would she go to the police station? Yes, regardless. Does she think she would find something there? Cynicism says no, hope says yes. Could she get something there that no-one else has, thanks to her keys or knowledge? Possibly.
     
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    • I mean, even without the actual armor pieces, I'm sure just the exoskeleton part of a power armor would be suitingly terrifying. Didn't FO3 have like some "raider power armor" or something? With extra spikes, because of course it has spikes?
     
    To be honest, when she was thinking about performing shotgun surgery on the speaker playing the recorded farewell message, I was thinking it'd be a shame to destroy it. A loudspeaker has cool mechanical parts we could recycle, after all, and all tech in the apocalypse has value. Maybe even a distraction grenade type thing, if we can reprogram it to yell insults to attract enemies to it and then blow up.
     
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    [x] Scavenge what you can from Sanctuary, hopefully your gun cabinate still has something usable.

    Basic short term goal really, we need to grab what we can to survive. Hopefully we'll be able to find something useful.

    Not sure about mid-term goals but we'll see, also on a side note something that would be really useful is either finding or making some kind of transportation to help us get around easier. Even something as simple as a bicycle increases our speed and carrying capacity by a large amount.
     
    AckSed said:
    Ammo is scarce - not Mad Max 2, one-shell-left-and-then-its-a-club scarce, but there may be an advantage to having a sidearm with common ammo and an easy melee weapon.
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    The thousands of pipe-gun ammo rounds I ended up with after not using pipe guns would beg to differ. I think it would be more accurate to say that quality ammo (10mm and above) is scarce. The ammo for the pipe guns is very weak on its own and probably made out of metal bits that had been pressed together into something that looked like a bullet.
     
    Dead Pann said:
    The thousands of pipe-gun ammo rounds I ended up with after not using pipe guns would beg to differ. I think it would be more accurate to say that quality ammo (10mm and above) is scarce. The ammo for the pipe guns is very weak on its own and probably made out of metal bits that had been pressed together into something that looked like a bullet.
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    Pretty sure he meant he's ignoring silly game mechanics like that to fit the story and setting better.

    IE where game mechanics and setting conflict setting wins.
     
    Short-term
    [x] Scavenge what you can from Sanctuary, hopefully your gun cabinate still has something usable.

    Medium Term
    [X] Get to know more about the local area (i.e. survivor strongholds, warlords, monsters, etc) and try to use said information to your advantage
     
    somnolentSlumber said:
    To be honest, when she was thinking about performing shotgun surgery on the speaker playing the recorded farewell message, I was thinking it'd be a shame to destroy it. A loudspeaker has cool mechanical parts we could recycle, after all, and all tech in the apocalypse has value. Maybe even a distraction grenade type thing, if we can reprogram it to yell insults to attract enemies to it and then blow up.
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    I like your style. And we do have pliers...
     
    We should establish whether Nick will work with us or not, maybe. His goal is likely trying to find the baby, though knowing that it's been 55 years means we can convince him to stick together.

    [x] Short term: Scavenge the local areas, separate and meet up with supplies at some central location.
    [x] Medium term: Make sure our food, water, medication, ammunition needs are fulfilled - look for surviving settlements? It'd be a sick joke to be literally the last man and woman on the planet, though Oscar might appreciates that, the Grognak fan. On the other hand, eww.
     
    You know one of my additions to many of my FO4 story ideas is that the local National Guard unit stationed in the Greater Boston Area (i.e The Commonwealth) was one of the first Guard units to be equipped with Power Armor making them one of the first Guard Armored Infantry units. Of course these PAs are older reconditioned T-45 Frames but still explains somewhat why there such a large amount of PAs in the Commonwealth years later. For another related idea is the reason why PA are scarce elsewhere is a combination, much of the PA equipped US Army units where still in China fighting the Red Chinese when the bombs fell, and state-side much of the remaining PA where locked in secured military warehouses or bases which often sport numerous automated defenses. Anyway just a thought to AckSed to answer his question about the power armor question.
     
    This was a sweet read so far <3

    I....Kind of dug the scavenging; it was cool seeing a mix of practical necessities and other things. Also was like, wait "sanitary towels" before I looked it up and apparently it is a name thats used.

    Also, I'd like to contribute a little more, but I also don't really have the benefit of actually knowing Fallout all that well. (Should probably get on watching a few playthroughs sometime...) and so I'll go with the vote that I think is probably higher priority considering survival. Food and water are pretty important....

    [x] Short term: Scavenge the local areas, separate and meet up with supplies at some central location.
    [x] Medium term: Make sure our food, water, medication, ammunition needs are fulfilled - look for surviving settlements? It'd be a sick joke to be literally the last man and woman on the planet, though Oscar might appreciates that, the Grognak fan. On the other hand, eww.
     
    Aoditor said:
    [ ] Short term: Scavenge the local areas, separate and meet up with supplies at some central location.
    [ ] Medium term: Make sure our food, water, medication, ammunition needs are fulfilled - look for surviving settlements? It'd be a sick joke to be literally the last man and woman on the planet, though Oscar might appreciates that, the Grognak fan. On the other hand, eww.
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    Good vote, but the man with us (Hannah) is Nate; Oscar is our dead brother.
     
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    I meant it as "Oscar (had he been alive) might have appreciated (being one of a pair of a surviving man and woman group in a post-apocalyptic situation), the Grognak fan. On the other hand, (we were siblings and the implication is disgusting to my sensibility)"
     
    Aoditor said:
    I meant it as "Oscar (had he been alive) might have appreciated (being one of a pair of a surviving man and woman group in a post-apocalyptic situation), the Grognak fan. On the other hand, (we were siblings and the implication is disgusting to my sensibility)"
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    Juust making sure.
     
    zzz... Whu? *sees date* I'M LATE! *scrambles to get ready*

    Man, you would not believe what's been happening to me this past... nine months?! Nearly got evicted, family emergencies, money troubles - it's been hectic. Unfortunately the insomnia has only grown worse and it's affecting my concentration and memory. But I'll do my best.

    [x] Short term: Scavenge the local areas, separate and meet up with supplies at some central location. Votes: 2

    Seems like a consensus on the short-term, so I'll combine: split up, scavenge and check our gun cabinet before meeting back up.

    [x] Medium term: Make sure our food, water, medication, ammunition needs are fulfilled - look for surviving settlements? It'd be a sick joke to be literally the last man and woman on the planet, though Oscar might have appreciated that, the Grognak fan. On the other hand, eww. Votes: 2

    Good, healthy common-sense stuff. I like it.

    Now, give us two d20s, one for Nate, one for Hannah.
     
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