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Digimon Inheritance: A Heroic Lion's Turbulent Times

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That bit about not wanting to see innocents get hurt is real bad news for Duftmon if he has any big purges planned for the future.
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Verge had long since learned that trying to brute force contain his wrath with one day lead to it becoming uncontrollable.
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wrath would one day
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Towering over buried at nearly 3 times his height
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????
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After all it was a decreased cause by the death of Repulsa
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was decreased by the
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delete Astamon for mere suggestion that consider taking a bet with even the chance that he would have to hand over Xia to the Gloaming.
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for merely suggesting that he consider
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Likewise the Hosts own decision to attempt and banish his brother
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Host's
attempt to banish
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he could not be in ever place at once
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in every place
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that their would always be
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there
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The fist of the Fallen Beast King.

It was a variant on the Leomons signature move
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Fist
Leomon species'
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a darker implication then just about any of the Leomon lines other fist attacks.
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line's
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Additionally it was also the variance that Verge was proficient in
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the variant that
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Perhaps too many it implied that Verge himself had a sinister nature,
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Perhaps to many
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of the most practical ways to get in practice that actually channeling the emotion.
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practice actually channeling
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Deimos entered the Bulwark Embassies Gym,
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Embassy's
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I've noticed your throwing around a lot of power up here
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power out here
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"Oh, n.oYyou didn't disturb me."
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no. You
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remembering Grips words from before.
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Grip's
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if my own nature made the nominate version of the Leomon signature attack
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the normal version
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"Ya know, as intense as your anger is can be sensei,
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anger can be sensei
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A devastating heat flooding the room, Verge was always so focused on whatever battle he used the technique for, that he never paid much attention to its effects on the area.
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heat flooded the room. Verge
for that
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before Fite exploded off of him in a massive conflagration
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before Fire exploded
 
According to Drexal on discord, Thresh will be able to become around 50% stronger through training now that he's become a Mega.


Thresh, Gallantmon Black, Fresh Evo:
Strength 85,000->340,000
Fortitude 76,500->306,000
Endurance 68,000->272,000
Agility 60,000->240,000
Special 73,500->294,000
Spirit 66,000->264,000

That means his maxed out statline (before taking into account any buffs like Crimson mode) would look like:

Thresh, Gallantmon Black, Aproximate Maxed Stats:
Strength 340,000->510,000
Fortitude 306,000->459,000
Endurance 272,000->408,000
Agility 240,000->360,000
Special 294,000->441,000
Spirit 264,000->396,000

Which is a very formidable statline, albeit one that Verge may very well end up outstatting immediately upon digivolving to Baihumon
 
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Informational: Digimon Higher Level Strength Tiers:
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    • cog-nito said:
    @drexal15

    In the interest of providing context to the power levels we're currently dealing with, could you please make a infopost detailing what stat levels correspond to what powerlevels?

    It would be quite useful to know just how strong you need to be, to be considered a low Mega, mid Mega, high Mega or even Ultra level digimon when it comes to power.

    Btw, does maxed out base stats Gallantmon!Thresh outstat Imperialdramon?
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    Sure:

    Digimon Higher Level Strength Tiers:

    High Ultimate: Mon with their best stats in the low to mid tens of thousands. They tend to be the utmost elite percentage of Ults, and generally evolve into low-mid range Megas. Examples being Tuwarmon and Auger.

    Low Mega/Ridiculous-Ultimate: The lowest rung of Mega and the highest run of Ult generally possible, with their best stats being in the high tens of thousands. Examples being PileVolcamon and the Chevaliers/proto demon lords/godlings respectively.

    Mid-Mega: This would be the "normal" Mega tier, where mon start having stats above one hundred thousand. Example being SaberLeomon, Dominimon and technically MetalEtemon, though he's on the upper border. This is where Astamon is rated as well.

    High Mega: Here we have the "Strong" Megas than can generally kick the ass of their weaker kin. With their best stats hitting around/slightly above 200 thousand. SlashAngemon is at the very bottom of this tier, while something like KingEtemon or Dark General Piedmon would be leaning towards the stronger end.

    Heavyweight Mega: And this is the "top" rung where the likes of Demon Lords, Royal Knights and even Sovereigns hang out. With stats in the several hundred thousand range. Leopardmon is at the lowest point of this, whereas the like of Imperialdramon is on the upper edges. Thresh has solidly hit the middle and is prepped to be Imperialdramon's equal.

    Past that we have SuperHeavyweights, such as Lucemon Falldown Mode, Huanglongmon, and Ogudumon.
     
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    Sure:

    Digimon Higher Level Strength Tiers:

    High Ultimate: Mon with their best stats in the low to mid tens of thousands. They tend to be the utmost elite percentage of Ults, and generally evolve into low-mid range Megas. Examples being Tuwarmon and Auger.

    Low Mega/Ridiculous-Ultimate: The lowest rung of Mega and the highest run of Ult generally possible, with their best stats being in the high tens of thousands. Examples being PileVolcamon and the Chevaliers/proto demon lords/godlings respectively.

    Mid-Mega: This would be the "normal" Mega tier, where mon start having stats above one hundred thousand. Example being SaberLeomon, Dominimon and technically MetalEtemon, though he's on the upper border. This is where Astamon is rated as well.

    High Mega: Here we have the "Strong" Megas than can generally kick the ass of their weaker kin. With their best stats hitting around/slightly above 200 thousand. SlashAngemon is at the very bottom of this tier, while something like KingEtemon or Dark General Piedmon would be leaning towards the stronger end.

    Heavyweight Mega: And this is the "top" rung where the likes of Demon Lords, Royal Knights and even Sovereigns hang out. With stats in the several hundred thousand range. Leopardmon is at the lowest point of this, whereas the like of Imperialdramon is on the upper edges. Thresh has solidly hit the middle and is prepped to be Imperialdramon's equal.

    Past that we have SuperHeavyweights, such as Lucemon Falldown Mode, Huanglongmon, and Ogudumon.
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    If maxed out Gallantmon!Thesh is going to be on the upper edges of Heavyweight Mega tier.

    Then does that mean that maxed out Baihumon!Verge will be in the SuperHeavyweight Mega tier?

    (Though probably on the weaker end of things where pure power is concerned)

    Incidentally how strong would Baihumon!Verge be by Baihumon standards?
     
    cog-nito said:
    If maxed out Gallantmon!Thesh is going to be on the upper edges of Heavyweight Mega tier.

    Then does that mean that maxed out Baihumon!Verge will be in the SuperHeavyweight Mega tier?

    (Though probably on the weaker end of things where pure power is concerned)

    Incidentally how strong would Baihumon!Verge be by Baihumon standards?
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    I wouldn't count on Baihumon!Verge being particularily strong for the species. Normally Baihumon would be triple jogressed between extremely powerful ultimates, according to Leopardmon. Verge is a freak of nature for being able to go White Tiger without needing to jogress, but i would not be surprised if he actually ended up being on the weaker end for the species simply because he has to shoulder the potential of two other digimon by himself.
     
    He'd probably have a nicer personality than most Baihumon though. A lot less "indifferent god". Evolving from a single mon instead of the mind weirdness of a jogress probably helps with that.
     
    cog-nito said:
    If maxed out Gallantmon!Thesh is going to be on the upper edges of Heavyweight Mega tier.

    Then does that mean that maxed out Baihumon!Verge will be in the SuperHeavyweight Mega tier?

    (Though probably on the weaker end of things where pure power is concerned)

    Incidentally how strong would Baihumon!Verge be by Baihumon standards?
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    The problem with figuring out how strong the sovereigns are, is that we just don't have enough feats for them… but what we have eclipses most things other digimon and even higher digital lifeforms are seemingly capable of.

    The strengths of the sovereigns only really shine when they are together and there are still many mysteries about them:

    -can (when they are together) change the very laws of the server (straight up stop natural digivolution)
    -are seemingly part of the very server (azulongmon in adventure two)
    -are possibly unable to die in the conventional sense or at least so hard to kill that literally no one cares to try? (got only ever sealed away and fanglongmon is confirmed immortal in a weird way even for digimon, so it's not that out there the sovereigns are as well…)
    -can ignore or are immune to equivalent eldritch bs like d-reaper instant deletion
    - have possibly "absurdly high (?infinite?) stamina and durability", Baihumon in tamers fought the d-reaper allegedly for days/weeks/months without rest (that's why he called turtle bro over…)

    That's all I can think of… and Drexal15 is in no way required to have these traits for sovereigns in his story…
     
    If I remember righty Verge would be average overall for a Baihumon power wise... but who knows if we hit Sov its entirly possible other factors could change that one way or another.
     
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    Personally while I love baihumon I do think narratively craniamon would prob be better here for easier to write fight scenes and just in general "size issues" that might come from a baihumon verge . He's basically have to stay de-digivolved most of the time to his leomon form as he just wouldn't fit in a lot of places , making the digivolution seem less impactful than him being able to stay a mega and train his fighting skills still .

    My biggest hope honestly is that drex pulls a fast one on all of us and commissions some OC digimon becuase of verges mutant nature and makes an OC baihumon knight version . Now that would be dope
     
    I don't personally want to hit Sovereign, because it doesn't interest me much, but if we do then I assume we'll basically be getting carried by our multipliers. We'd be the first sane super heavyweight in the server, so nothing is going to challenge us for a very long time. Which.... doesn't really interest me. We've come all this way punching up like a demon, fighting things that should by all rights be so beyond us we can't even comprehend their might. Becoming a being so unbelievably mighty as to effectively be undefeatable just... isn't interesting to me.
    Mr.rodent said:
    Personally while I love baihumon I do think narratively craniamon would prob be better here for easier to write fight scenes and just in general "size issues" that might come from a baihumon verge . He's basically have to stay de-digivolved most of the time to his leomon form as he just wouldn't fit in a lot of places , making the digivolution seem less impactful than him being able to stay a mega and train his fighting skills still .
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    And there's this, as well. Baihumon is already one of the biggest Digimon there is. Verge is always almost double the size of normal. We'd basically never be able to go anywhere not purpose built for us.
     
    gamer50018 said:
    I don't personally want to hit Sovereign, because it doesn't interest me much, but if we do then I assume we'll basically be getting carried by our multipliers. We'd be the first sane super heavyweight in the server, so nothing is going to challenge us for a very long time. Which.... doesn't really interest me. We've come all this way punching up like a demon, fighting things that should by all rights be so beyond us we can't even comprehend their might. Becoming a being so unbelievably mighty as to effectively be undefeatable just... isn't interesting to me.
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    This quest has been very much about growing stronger to achieve Verges goals, it's gonna be one hell of a change in direction when Verge has all the strength he's ever gonna achieve, and it'll be more about what we are going to do with it. This won't change whether he'll become a Royal Knight or a Sovereign.
     
    I just had a funny thought, the sovereigns are basically a manifestation of the the current state of affairs of a server or how Digimonkind as a whole operates:

    Baihumon: represents survival of the fittest and the seeking of ever greater challenges (digivolution of digimon)

    Azulongmon: represents balance and the embrace and use of foreign concepts (higher cognitive functions of digimon)

    Zhuqiaomon: represents rebirth and unwillingness to break away from established norms and perversions of the "natural" cycle (highly critical of things like "unnatural" evolution through for example humans)

    Ebonwumon: represents stagnation and the resulting cooperation (digimon who are unwilling/unable to evolve band together or die)

    That's naturally a very far stretch but it is a (at least to me) funny idea that the four sovereigns are basically just representations (a bunch of nagging old people) of how the digital world operates as a whole… kinda like when we look back in horror (cringe) at the stupid shit our grandparents where up to and realize we are kind of not so different?
     
    gamer50018 said:
    I don't personally want to hit Sovereign, because it doesn't interest me much, but if we do then I assume we'll basically be getting carried by our multipliers. We'd be the first sane super heavyweight in the server, so nothing is going to challenge us for a very long time. Which.... doesn't really interest me. We've come all this way punching up like a demon, fighting things that should by all rights be so beyond us we can't even comprehend their might. Becoming a being so unbelievably mighty as to effectively be undefeatable just... isn't interesting to me.
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    Just a thing here , not really so much about the debate between forms but I think Leopardmon thinks that Verge becoming a sovereign will wake up entities and forces that are slumbering.

    If true regardless of which form Verge shall take chances are there will be various threats that Verge will have some struggles dealing with and whilst Sovereign will probably smack down a lot of the known ones there will be news one to rise up.

    So probably don't really have to worry about not running into any challenges for a long time.
     
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