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Defiance Of Destiny (Worm/Disgaea)

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Ashkari said:
Almost certainly. While I haven't decided quite yet on the exact mechanics for Towers (eg, which games), there's just too much comedy potential for people going "Wtf?!" when they see it happen (or are forced to participate).

Honestly, that's one of my few disappointments with Disgaea 7, that doing Tower Attacks isn't really a big thing anymore.



Can you? I know you can fuse someone into another character and learn their stuff if you have enough mana, but I don't recall that equipping them, offhand.
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Give me like, five minutes, I'll boot it up and test it!

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Yup! In Phantom Brave, there is no difference from Lifting and Equipping, due to Objects and Items being the same thing (So Marona can confine phantoms to equipment by throwing her own item down, for example).

In olden times, I would actually use this to chain high level confinement, because I could have marona confine a phantom to her own item, then have them throw down their item, and she uses that as well, repeat ad infinitum.

By having Ash lift Marona and throw her into a crowd of enemies, I could basically explode my entire team out like a little-girl-shaped clown car filled with my multi-fused slime gods and all that jazz.

It's honestly AMAZING, because you can equip ANYTHING in Phantom Brave. In my first playthrough, I had Ash use a Boulder I got from level one, for the entire playthrough, fusing all my strongest loot into the boulder to boost its power over and over, and give the boulder all of the endgame abilities.

Ash would literally be able to use legendary sword attacks, using a fucking rock. It was amazing.

I also have a *legendary* story, where Phantom Brave solidified itself as my all-time favorite. I was in a Dungeon, Marona was dead, all my party members had run out of time, and I had ONE character left in the entire party, and they only had one more turn before they would despawn.

I was wracking my brain, because I didn't want to get a gameover (You got HARDKICKED to title screen on death in this game, and I was deep into this dungeon)

Eventually, I realized with amazement that I did have a way out, because I had fused a Dungeon Monk into Marona at extreme cost, giving her the incredibly expensive Dungeon Escape active ability. I thought, since she was dead, I couldn't use it, until I remembered you get all of the actions of ANYTHING you pick up.

Because Marona left behind a body, I was able to have my last character pick up her unconscious body, and use it like a goddamn magic wand to cast Dungeon Escape, since she knew it.

It made me feel more genius than I had EVER felt in any tactical RPG. No other game has given me a "Eurika!" moment like that.
 
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Shadestyle said:
TBH, I do think the "Turn Based Isometric Combat is Multiversally enforced" is one of the weaker parts of this fic. It feels weirdly Orwellian in a bad way, almost like some of the nastier Fiat abilities from Celestial Forge fics that make most antagonists read as helpless against the MC.
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I think that it could be fun if done right. The locals figuring it out and trying to bypass it or use it to their advantage could be very interesting to see, whether they succeed or fail. By its very nature, it is easy to tell what is going on, making fight scenes simpler to follow. And if Ashkari ever does explain her powers, it'll be funny to watch the mix of reactions.

Disgaea is a weird setting, and I feel like it 'infecting' Earth Bet makes sense for this kind of crossover. Ashkari and company bursting onto the scene and slapping down an entirely new set of rules instead of just joining the existing game of cops and robbers feels right to me.

I'll agree that it could become a weak point for the story if mishandled , but I think it's got a lot of potential. I've got high hopes for it.
 
verycoolname said:
I think that it could be fun if done right. The locals figuring it out and trying to bypass it or use it to their advantage could be very interesting to see, whether they succeed or fail. By its very nature, it is easy to tell what is going on, making fight scenes simpler to follow. And if Ashkari ever does explain her powers, it'll be funny to watch the mix of reactions.

Disgaea is a weird setting, and I feel like it 'infecting' Earth Bet makes sense for this kind of crossover. Ashkari and company bursting onto the scene and slapping down an entirely new set of rules instead of just joining the existing game of cops and robbers feels right to me.

I'll agree that it could become a weak point for the story if mishandled , but I think it's got a lot of potential. I've got high hopes for it.
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I think whether it turns out Amazing or comes across as creepy will come down to how omnipotent it ends up being. If everyone is just helpless to the effect, and there's no real way to prevent it outside of "don't be in the same universe as mana", it'll be much harder to play it off in a flavorful and satisfying way.

Slightly off topic, but Brockton's Celestial Forge is a masterclass on how NOT to do game-like elements, in that respect, because all of the gamelike effects are omnipotent to the point of straining disbelief, as one example.

That said, I'll be leaping out of my seat and screaming if L33t manages to force Final Fantasy Tactics Rules on everyone
 
Shadestyle said:
If everyone is just helpless to the effect, and there's no real way to prevent it outside of "don't be in the same universe as mana", it'll be much harder to play it off in a flavorful and satisfying way.
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The big one I can think of is "Cutscene victories" which is basically just blitzing the opponent before the battlefield takes hold of you.
 
Shadestyle said:
That said, I'll be leaping out of my seat and screaming if L33t manages to force Final Fantasy Tactics Rules on everyone
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You should check I Am the Law
In there, Taylor is a Judge from Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.
And pretty much all existing chapters are the result of her being the only one who actually knows the rules.
No turn based combat, but the effect of Yellow and Green cards on powers, combined with the 'No attacking the Judge' automatic Red card is hilarious.
 
Ashkari said:
my current balance of HL, the currency simply known as 'Hell', and with my current customer and products ranks, both of which were sitting at a big fat zero.

Not entirely unexpected, but it would've been nice if I didn't have to start at rock bottom.
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Didn't she just get 1 million HL a few minutes ago?
 
Ashkari said:
but for now I didn't want to go putting arrows into people until I was confident I could do it without accidentally maiming or killing them.
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Not a grammatical correction, but just want to point out. Unless you're using blunted arrows, even if you aren't using broadheads, you'll still be causing some really big risks of bleeding out and (I think) infection.

Because, y'know, deep hole in the body. The only saving grace is that if they leave the arrow there instead of ripping it out like idiots, it will staunch the bleeding a fair bit. With the trade off of having a sharp metal bit inside their body that will make more damage if they move.

On the flipside, if you want to ruin someone's entire week:

 
And that's that until you post a new chapter.

Bit rough around the edges as a fic, but not enough for me to be turned away. It also makes me morbidly curious how much of a turnover rate I'd get if I grabbed my gaggle of idiots from Icon of Sin and tossed them into a Worm crossover. The popularity of this setting is fucking baffling.
 
Nihilo said:
Ya, but HP and shit like RWBY aren't so disgustingly popular, at least in the forums, that SB and SV had to make containment areas for them they were so fucking virulent.
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SV has the containment because the site sprouted off of SB. Tis not a coinkydink that they are so similar. Many people left one for the other.
 
Nihilo said:
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Nihilo said:
And that's that until you post a new chapter.

Bit rough around the edges as a fic, but not enough for me to be turned away. It also makes me morbidly curious how much of a turnover rate I'd get if I grabbed my gaggle of idiots from Icon of Sin and tossed them into a Worm crossover. The popularity of this setting is fucking baffling.
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If you could condense these into on post that would be nice, thank you!
 
catgc said:
If you could condense these into on post that would be nice, thank you!
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I have no idea how other than requesting deletion of each of these from the mods then just pumping everything into a single post. Which seems like a good way to annoy them for something so minor.
 
Nihilo said:
I have no idea how other than requesting deletion of each of these from the mods then just pumping everything into a single post. Which seems like a good way to annoy them for something so minor.
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You click the delete button and give a reason for their logs after you copy everything over to the top post.

Hope that was helpful, and I understand your concerns, as I used to be the same way!
 
Nihilo said:
I have no idea how other than requesting deletion of each of these from the mods then just pumping everything into a single post. Which seems like a good way to annoy them for something so minor.
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Can you see the three little dots next to the Report button on your posts? That is how you both edit and delete your own posts.

One option to fulfill catcg's request is to click edit, then copy the entire source post and then edit the destination post and paste it in there. Then delete the source post. You could also keep all the segments in your "new post" box if ya wanna cut down on how many edits you wanna do.

Though if you do, I recommend putting the majority of your corrections in a Spoiler, which you do by placing this: [spoiler] infront of whatever you are hiding. It's considered polite to do as some of us are on mobile and it cuts down on loading time by making it shorter.
 
Ashkari said:
Briefly I had a thought about testing the two spells out on a Prinny, just to make sire,
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Another.

Ashkari said:
And while Piggot isn't specifically guilty of suck, to my knowledge, w
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Hey hey

Ashkari said:
But given the rest, i was cautiously optimistic
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Hey hey hey

That said, if pointing out typos as I go instead of just stocking everything up into a single post is considered a no-no, this is the last of it I will do. I got no patience for the store quote function, much less on mobile. Or even just for keeping it in the back of my head as I read.
 
Nihilo said:
That said, if pointing out typos as I go instead of just stocking everything up into a single post is considered a no-no, this is the last of it I will do.
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The only problem anyone had was that you postwd several with nothing else inbetween. Which, half the problem was that no one else was commenting.

But either way, I don't think you were breaking any rules since this site doesn't have multiposting rules like SB does. It's just people not wanting to see a page where the entire thing is corrections, or where every post was made by a single person.
 
By the by, if this is working off of some unholy combination of all Disgaea games, what units are unlocked from the get-go for hammering out new demons out of mana? Assuming you aren't going with 5's frankly boring change to just being recruitment of randos, but the core question remains.
 
nice, i look forward to more chapters in the future

also i kinda wonder what is going through QA mind right now and the much more [DATA] she has just gotten, if of cause taylor is still connected to QA
 
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