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Cowboy Bebop at his computer remake, now with live action Husky

Cmdr Stoat said:
Well i sure hope we hope we all learned a valuable lesson about adaptaing anime into live action and letting western studios interact with foreign IP's in any way.

The lesson being " never do this again".
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Sorry, but I have to take the opposite stance, rather. If people HAVE to do remakes into live action when adapting a source material, I sincerely hope there are more Like Cowboy Bebop. It managed to hit the nail on the head for me in a way that almost every other Live Action remake I've ever seen hasn't. Maybe it's catering to my specific tastes, but I'd rather see more adaptations like Cowboy Bebop if we have to continue on the trend of making remakes.
 
I am definitely on the side of this just being a bad idea on a conceptual level. I have no idea what some people here are on that they're finding this acceptable having seen the original for comparison.

Everything is butchered to the point of parody. Aesthetics, writing, and pacing that were all beloved in the original are completely butchered by Netflix with the obvious filter down to lowest common denominator American streaming trash. It's especially bad whenever they try to do straight shot for shot remake and imitation, because it's the most unflattering and botched possible imitation.

The whole production screams of Netflix squatting on copyright, betting that the animation age ghetto is still a thing so that hapless Netflix bingers will watch their version over the original series, find it just alright enough to become attached to, and thus obsolesce the original when it inevitably rotates out of Netflix's licensing. It's really almost grotesque.
 
I feel (from what I watched) the politics are a lot less left leaning, it feels very centrist when the original animated version rather clearly showed that the world that it takes place in is actually rather miserable when you look past the glitz and sci-fi glamour... Like being a "Cowboy" is a rather dark profession

Its so far somewhat disappointing... Or to put it in another way "wow the casts back must be hurting carrying this show", maybe it will get better but from what ive seen it will probably just stay the same... Which is a shame as the casting is great and their was love put into the makings here.
 
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Wateryblue said:
I feel (from what I watched) the politics are a lot less left leaning, it feels very centrist when the original animated version rather clearly showed that the world that it takes place in is actually rather miserable when you look past the glitz and sci-fi glamour... Like being a "Cowboy" is a rather dark profession

Its so far somewhat disappointing... Or to put it in another way "wow the casts back must be hurting carrying this show", maybe it will get better but from what ive seen it will probably just stay the same... Which is a shame as the casting is great and their was love put into the makings here.
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Yeah, like for instance how the cops Jet worked with aren't corrupt instead it's just "one bad apple" or how Faye's medical debt (and wasn't that a commentary on society that she could be saddled for years upon years of debt like that) is all but removed
 
Red Orion said:
Yeah, like for instance how the cops Jet worked with aren't corrupt instead it's just "one bad apple"
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Just one? Chalmers is hown to be not-dirty (dear mod but that episode hit every cliche in the book), but we also have the scene where the police shoot the bounty (who was surrendering) in the head so they don't have to pay up.
 
Chloe Sullivan said:
Just one? Chalmers is hown to be not-dirty (dear mod but that episode hit every cliche in the book), but we also have the scene where the police shoot the bounty (who was surrendering) in the head so they don't have to pay up.
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That's what I'm saying? Only one cop was dirty whereas before all of them were and that's why he quit
 
Okay I was a bit bore in the middle so it took me a while to get back to it, though the last 3 episodes were not that bad. OverallI don't hate it, but I'm always a bit puzzle by a lot of the descision (though some of them I could reasonnably explain with live-action logistic, what's worst is the sensation that a lot of it is needlessly padded (I can't help but think of Noah Caldwell-Gervais musing on how streaming can end up with atrociously paced show).

What I find the oddest is the treatement of Vicious and Julia, two characters I didn't really was never that interested in the anime, but here I'm wondering if they hate the character in the original or is it they decided that what they would use expand the runtime out since it's left fairly vague in the original. Though I do feel by the end it felt like that at least Vicious felt less sniveling and actually a bit threatening though even there they canceled all that at the end), though oddly enough Faye also very very different from her characteristic in the show and it didn't bother me nearly as much
 
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Red Orion said:
That's what I'm saying? Only one cop was dirty whereas before all of them were and that's why he quit
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SerGregness said:
Chloe is saying the corruption is still there because they murder a guy who was surrendering rather than pay out.
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To be clear, i'm pointing out that aside from the stupid cliche episode where Jet meets his old cop buddy again, we also see the cops flat out murder a dude to save money in a different episode. There were several cars full of cops there and they were all happy to go along with that.
 
Chloe Sullivan said:
To be clear, i'm pointing out that aside from the stupid cliche episode where Jet meets his old cop buddy again, we also see the cops flat out murder a dude to save money in a different episode. There were several cars full of cops there and they were all happy to go along with that.
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Are you talking original or live action?
 
Well, I liked it. There's my opinion. This is my only comment on it.
 
Chloe Sullivan said:
NGL, this comes across as culture essentialist and thus racist.
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Not really. Its been repeatedly proven that they don't understand foreign IP's or their appeal. just look at Godzilla,Death Note, the cancelled american made sailor moon cartoon, or the upcoming debacle called one piece. all of them were distorted from their original source to fit an audience stupified by Joss Whedon and MCU movies.
 
The Magnificent Seven, Edge of Tomorrow, and Monkey Magic were all fine, just off the top of my head.

Sure a lot of adaptations are handled badly - but one can easily find well done adaptations as well.

"the west can't adapt the East" is just racism.
 
Chloe Sullivan said:
The Magnificent Seven, Edge of Tomorrow, and Monkey Magic were all fine, just off the top of my head.

Sure a lot of adaptations are handled badly - but one can easily find well done adaptations as well.

"the west can't adapt the East" is just racism.
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Only seen the first of those, and that was a full conversion substituting western tropes for eastern ones. You can't do that while also trying to play for nostalgia
 
Chloe Sullivan said:
The Magnificent Seven, Edge of Tomorrow, and Monkey Magic were all fine, just off the top of my head.

Sure a lot of adaptations are handled badly - but one can easily find well done adaptations as well.

"the west can't adapt the East" is just racism.
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Like the one of the posters above me said, The Magnificent Seven was basically a full conversion to western tropes but I'll add that Edge of Tomorrow changed several core aspects of the story it was adapting such that both of these films would probably be classified as remakes rather than straight adaptions (Edge of Tomorrow kept neither the name nor the ending of it's source), and I've never heard of Monkey Magic can you link me to it?
 
Hykal94 said:
www.hollywoodreporter.com

‘Cowboy Bebop’ Canceled by Netflix After One Season

Exclusive: The streamer has canceled the anime adaptation of the space Western after its premiere less than a month ago.
www.hollywoodreporter.com www.hollywoodreporter.com

"I ain't gonna carry that weight." - Netflix
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Ah so that terrible Winx club adaptation gets multiple seasons but this gets the can, (don't get me wrong I'm almost done with the show as in 2 episodes left and its been more bad than good but still) like this was trending because even people who dislike it had to keep watching since a lot of it is a train wreck but its better than what Netflix did to Winx
 
I haven't watched the adaptation yet, but from what I've heard the casting was at least good. Which makes me feel like they might have been able to improve.
 
Chloe Sullivan said:
The Magnificent Seven, Edge of Tomorrow, and Monkey Magic were all fine, just off the top of my head.

Sure a lot of adaptations are handled badly - but one can easily find well done adaptations as well.

"the west can't adapt the East" is just racism.
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I generally have a low opinion of a show that is based off of something in the same medium, unless they are clearly changing what they are doing with the show. Bebop didn't. They tried to keep too much of the original story, and, at that point, just watch the original story.

I didn't hate the show, it was okay, but I went back and watched the original after it and just went "wow, this was really good"
 
Darthtabby said:
I haven't watched the adaptation yet, but from what I've heard the casting was at least good. Which makes me feel like they might have been able to improve.
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Casting was *mostly* good. Vicious looked awful and I hate Edward who was my favorite of the crew in the original.

Mostly it was the writing. Trying to stuff too much dark and serious plot into parts of the show that should have been fun, less serious and entirely unconnected to a larger plotline.
 
Wateryblue said:
Ah so that terrible Winx club adaptation gets multiple seasons but this gets the can, (don't get me wrong I'm almost done with the show as in 2 episodes left and its been more bad than good but still) like this was trending because even people who dislike it had to keep watching since a lot of it is a train wreck but its better than what Netflix did to Winx
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I recall that the Winx adaptation was being headed up by the show's original creator. Can't really say Netflix ruined the "intended vision" in that case.
 
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