Corny Bones meets the Fate/Stay Series: Fate Zero

Really, you want to just TRY and roll with it as best you can. Expect stupid, expect crazy and just kind of double-think it until it becomes good again. Worse comes to worse there are some genuinely great moments.
 
To be fair to the magi, I doubt this was how any of the founders of this mess envisioned things turning out. Once upon a time they stood together for a dream they all shared. Then everything went wrong. And kept going wrong.

As for the heroes, well sadly the pawn description is pretty appropriate in a sense, for all their want for that wish that they might have, they're still bound to those who likely care little or none at all for what they want. But not all hope is lost, for there is still the chance that they will find a master who understands them.
No one ever does.

But whether they intended to or not, the Grail war is very much a pessimistic engine for the grinding of meat. Houses are upturned, magic is spent. Six dreamers are sacrificed like sheep in a blood ritual that mocks the legends of humanities heroes and with simpering laughter pretends to grant the wish of the victor.

I mean, when you have three magical families with enough knowledge to change the word wholly devoted to trying to outmaneuver each other for the purpose of trying to get their hands on an empty cup, it does sets some dark precedents. Especially when legends have to die for each game to conclude.
Those predictions on Waver are very interesting.
Interesting is one word for how very wrong it was....
Quite interesting insight on who you think they are....And as to whomever Tokiomi summoned, well
Nobody calls somebody a mongrel like he does.
Fate/Zero (and the Fate series in general) has some pretty clear issues, but I do still enjoy it. I'm glad you're watching this and I hope you have fun.

Out of curiosity, what do you already know about this show, going in?
-Emiya is going to roll a extensive collection of Natural 1s when he wins this Grail War. It involves Saber and is very traumatizing. Fire is very liberally involved, and cups fall over.
-The next Grail War happens way sooner than usual, and it involves several descendants of Emiya and the other Masters. Including adopted children.
- Their is an evil mud monster in the Grail that hates everyone, is a girl, and's been fucking up the the wishes made on the Grail.
-There are Two Grails.
-At least Gilgamesh, and Artura, both appear in the second Grail War
-Gilgamesh is a Dick.
-There are Three routes that the Game can progress, and that division has led to a wide variety of extended spinoffs.
-Somebody fights somebody on a Hill of Swords.
It's a weird collection of one liners and information I've gleaned from....unusual sources.

Episode 2 First Impression: This was a episode very much about relationships between servants and Masters.
 
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It's not dead. I swear. Just got distracted by Fallout 4, having midterms, and Art school' assignments. Write-up's about half-way done, but I still need to come up with some silly comics about how terrible a Mother Arthur is, and how children bring bad memories.
 
Episode 2
Episode 2

It would appear, after watching this episode, that my initial reading of Waver Velvet as a cunning sociopath was very wrong. I suppose that his valuing of human life and willingness to keep the company and care of the elderly was a big hint about this. This innocent babe is clearly a spotless as a lamb that accidentally summoned Alexander the Great, (he's called Iskandar here. Roll with it)

(Fun history fact. Apparently Alexander was trained by a Greek philosopher until he was 16.
The philosopher's name was Socrates. He agreed to train the boy to get his hometown rebuilt)

This episode tightens it's focus. Where the first was about setting the premise, this episode sets the stage for the characters and their soon to be dead historical companions. We're given our initial emotional points to support, and oppose.

Alexander is summoned as a Rider, and his natural style appears to clash directly with Velvet's more stealthy nature. He approaches problems in an aggressive and boisterous manner. I suppose being roughly eight feet tall and being built like he could curl a Scotland Pony lends itself to a certain approach to problems. Or maybe it's because he conquered the world

Their interaction is best shwns when Alexander, while looking at maps of his homeland and establishing "I don't know what any of these things are, but they're going to be mine when I conquer my way home" asks what Waver wants.

Waver answerers, he says that he wants to be treated fairly. He doesn't want the established collection of Mages to automatically discount his ideas because his family isn't living in a castle on a hill and is the seventh generation of King Arthur's descendants. He wants to be treated equal to his peers. For them to recognize the validity of his ideas.

Alexander, being rational and calm, slaps Waver in the face and tells him he's wrong. When your given the chance to summon a historical figure to wage war for the chance to "Make A WishTM", you'd better be damn sure about what it is you want. If you're going to be killing people for this, the least courtesy is a decent reason.

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After that first real introduction to a servant, we meet a pint sized munchkin who runs around in a snowy forest looking for tree buds with her father, Kiritsugu Emiya.

It's very cute.

Saber, (NO DOUBT THINKING ABOUT HOW TERRIBLE SHE"S BEEN AT MOTHERHOOD/FATHERHOOD PARENTING) comments about how Kiritsugu didn't strike her as being the type to get sentimental, or emote, or really do a whole lot of the running in the forest playing with children.

His fair maiden Irisviel responds with, "You just haven't gotten to know him yet" and asks if she's still upset about their reactions to the summoning. And it's a shame that we don't get to see that scene, because it would likely kill all sense of drama in the series from the sheer slapstick value of watching Big Boss react to everyone's favorite Mythical King wearing a dress and sporting some sexy hair weaving.

King Saber insists that, "there was no reason for you both to be as shocked as you were."
AH HA HA HA HA HA. SWEET INNOCENT KING ARTHUR.
HA
HA
AHHHH!

In the real world, King Arthur would likely be even more popular in the modern day if it was discovered that she was female. The way it would turn known history on its head, and reshuffle the narrative of the Round Table would make for high drama in historical circle.

And if King Arthur calls you cause noble, then you're probably doing a good job at picking your causes. But, you 'know, this is the same person who thought crusades were a good idea.

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Our final Master is Uryuu Ryuunosuke. Anyone with that many U's in his name is obviously not in a source of intelligent logic. As evidenced by the logic that lead him to killing seven people.

Normally I'd expect my Serial Killer's to be a highly competent psychopaths philosophers that wax about poetry while disemboweling sheep, but Uryuu RuRu's motivation boils down to, "I'm bored, imma see if demon's are real." Followed by, "Demon's aren't happening, I must need to kill more people."
What a stirring appeal to the Holy Grail's! Obviously he has a wish that will only bring prosperity to the human race.

Quality master material deserves a quality servant, hence the appearance of a muppet eyed H.P cosplayer who calls himself Bluebeard. Historically, he's know for being a duke that killed seven wives and mutilated the remains. He kills a kid to prove himself evil.

I hate them both and want them to die horribly.
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At the final act of the episode, Krie Kotomine, in a shocking and unexpected twist, betrays his allies. We are allowed our first extended glimpse of a Servant in action, which turns out to be proves to be impressive. I think Assassin is kinda cool now, I can't wait to see more of him in acti-…..and he's dead, toasted by a earring wearing Babylonian King.

I certainly have more people to think about now. After the setting was established in the last episode, now I have some characters to get attached too and depressed about dying. It's certainly looks like it's going to be a wild ride.

Chop chop, let's see the those limbs fly!
(next review shouldn't take as long)
 
SWEET INNOCENT KING ARTHUR.

The amount of things that could be said about this, in regards to a number of things.

In the real world, King Arthur would likely be even more popular in the modern day if it was discovered that she was female. The way it would turn known history on its head, and reshuffle the narrative of the Round Table would make for high drama in historical circle.

Especially regarding a certain knight of betrayal.

What a stirring appeal to the Holy Grail's! Obviously he has a wish that will only bring prosperity to the human race.

Anyone else hear the irony?

(he's called Iskandar here. Roll with it)

Yeah, never really understood why they did this. Anyone with a more extensive knowledge of things know why?
 
Fate/Stay/something or other was never a big hit on my rader. Not when I subscribed to Crunchyroll, not when the second series came out, not when Unhappy Anchovies made his denouncement on why it was "Not cool."

Do you have a link? Not the hugest fan of the Nasuverse and a huge fan of Unhappy Anchovy's writing (I think it was him that went on those Imperial-Stormcloak debates, anyway).

Also, liked Fate/Zero, didn't like F/S/N, hated KnK because I'm too stupid for it, and not a huge fan of the Nasuverse. There. There's my on topic post for the thread.
 
Do you have a link? Not the hugest fan of the Nasuverse and a huge fan of Unhappy Anchovy's writing (I think it was him that went on those Imperial-Stormcloak debates, anyway).

Also, liked Fate/Zero, didn't like F/S/N, hated KnK because I'm too stupid for it, and not a huge fan of the Nasuverse. There. There's my on topic post for the thread.
Interesting settings in badly written series. | Page 3

Scroll up a ways, and you'll get to his dissertation. Two of them.
 
I hope you'll come to enjoy Waver and Iskander as much as I did. They're by far my favorite Master/Servant pair of Zero :)
 
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