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Captain America: Brave New World

It's almost as if Marvel should go back to making mid-budget action movie films which gain an audience over time so that each film makes increasing amounts of money, instead of expecting everything to be an Endgame-style billion dollar hit. Who could have seen that coming?

Seriously, I like in a rural, isolated area. I've seen every Marvel film, at the latest, within a week of their release, and Infinity War was the first time I felt that other people were as hyped for the movie as I was.
 
Sumanai said:
It's almost as if Marvel should go back to making mid-budget action movie films which gain an audience over time so that each film makes increasing amounts of money, instead of expecting everything to be an Endgame-style billion dollar hit. Who could have seen that coming?
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I mean, that's just movies nowadays in general getting more and more inflated budget, the cost of making them rising higher every year without mentioning the ballooning that goes into advertising. So to recoup costs require even higher thresholds.

Anyway, this is a weird comment because they were clearly not expecting an Endgame billion dollar hit? Like, the movie's budget was $180 millions, by comparison the first Captain America movie costs around 140 millions at the lowest estimate, it's a difference of "merely" 40 millions. It's not mid-budget, but it's not one of the highest either, far from it. They even touted its budget as a point of pride. As a result it grossed the expected 90 million+ on opening weekend that was predicted and topped box office, so far it's tracking as they wanted it to, it's the following weeks that are to watch for. The fact that it needs 400+ millions to break even says more about the state of cinema than anything.

And even if people aren't as hyped for Marvel movies anymore, I have still seen some anecdotally. I saw No Way Home, Wakanda Forever, and Deadpool 3 get pretty high levels of hype.
 
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Anyway, this is a weird comment because they were clearly not expecting an Endgame billion dollar hit? Like, the movie's budget was $180 millions, by comparison the first Captain America movie costs around 140 millions at the lowest estimate, it's a difference of "merely" 40 millions. It's not mid-budget, but it's not one of the highest either, far from it. They even touted its budget as a point of pride. It grossed the expected 90 million+ on opening weekend that was predicted and topped box office, so far it's tracking as they wanted it to. The fact that it needs 400+ millions to break even says more about the state of cinema than anything.
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Hm, fair. I'm maybe being heavily skewed because feeds keep getting spammed with reports of how Marvels films are huge failures these days, so I am probably getting some perspectives messed up.

... to clarify, while I say reports, I mostly mean 'opinions which claims to be fact', and even if I do disregard 90% of that, some of it is bleeding into my brain and into the narrative of the movie, so. Ignore me, I'm dumb :V
 
Sumanai said:
Hm, fair. I'm maybe being heavily skewed because feeds keep getting spammed with reports of how Marvels films are huge failures these days, so I am probably getting some perspectives messed up.

... to clarify, while I say reports, I mostly mean 'opinions which claims to be fact', and even if I do disregard 90% of that, some of it is bleeding into my brain and into the narrative of the movie, so. Ignore me, I'm dumb :V
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Do note that the next weeks will be the ones critical in how it all shakes out. Even The Marvels started well before a huge drop in earnings in the second week and beyond.

The reviews being mixed means the word of mouth will work against it, but at the same time, while there are a lot of interesting movies out and upcoming (Love Hurts, Companion, Heart Eyes, The Monkey, Mickey 17, Novocaine, Snow White), many of them aren't as tentpole to threaten its numbers, so it's anyone's guess.

* okay, didn't know Love Hurts got negative reviews, I was looking forward to it
 
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This movie's slop factor is an argument for the death of movies as art. It's so aggressively bland that I'd almost have another "cap works with killer cop to execute dissidents" moment- because that accidentally would be *saying something*, even if it wasn't what they meant to. (Which isn't to say this movie doesn't have ugliness by writing choices anyway)

It's like the Boys in universe parody version of a cap movie.

I guess you get to see Gus fight captain America if that's a crossover you ever wanted.

A front runner for worst ever MCU product, despite the stiff competition, and a cowardly refusal for a captain America movie to say anything at all or even have interesting things.

The actors deserve better.
 
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Ugolino said:
This movie's slop factor is an argument for the death of movies as art. It's so aggressively bland that I'd almost have another "cap works with killer cop to execute dissidents" moment- because that accidentally would be *saying something*, even if it wasn't what they meant to. (Which isn't to say this movie doesn't have ugliness by writing choices anyway)

It's like the Boys in universe parody version of a cap movie.

I guess you get to see Gus fight captain America if that's a crossover you ever wanted.

A front runner for worst ever MCU product, despite the stiff competition, and a cowardly refusal for a captain America movie to say anything at all or even have interesting things.

The actors deserve better.
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Absolutely agree with you on that statement. I subscribed to Disney Plus for Falcon and Winter soldier and right now I am having a crisis of faith right now to cancel it but can't because my sisters use it watch Disney shows
 
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