Bismarck ISOTed to RMS Titanic - and U-234

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The addition of the band playing "Der gute Kamerad" is well done.

Perhaps you could write the old priest holding a mass where they sing "Nun danket alle Gott."
 
I need to give PPaul credit for much of the last post (again). It's not easy to use stuff from another person, but as I decided to restart it, i needed to do so. But the more the story moves on, the more own ideas are presented, the less ideas of PPaul are in this story. Also to honour him, Leutnant Hausburg is named after him. Unfortunately nobody had seen this until now.

Confucius once said: "The greatest form of veneration is a copy"

So i hope/think PPaul would smile down on you ;)
 
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German worked over ultrasonic ramjet Lippish p.13A, working on coal.If you add it to your U-boot, germany could made ramjets instead of jets.
 
And if we're talking about Das Boot:



Requiescas in pace, Jan Fedder (Petty Officer Pilgrim), *19.01.1955, +30.12.2019

Great actor from Hamburg, albeit Internationally not very known besides Das Boot, as he played more in local films and series, especially Großstadtrevier and Neues aus Büttenwarder.
 
German HSF ship classification
German HSF ship classification

Großlinienschiff = Great ship of the line = battleship, Dreadnought
Linienschiff = Ship of the line = battleship, predreadnought
Großer Kreuzer = Great Cruiser = A cruiser with a displacement of over 5.500 t
Kleiner Kreuzer = Small Cruiser = A cruiser with a displacement of less than 5.500 t
Großes Torpedoboot = Great Torpedo boat = A torpedo boat of over about 600 t, includes also destroyers
Torpedobootszerstörer = Torpedoboat destroyer = The first German destroyers. Note that the type 1916 destroyers were classified as torpedo boats again
Kleines Torpedoboot = Small Torpedo boat = A Torpedo boat of about 200 t, no modern ones

This system was outdated, when ww1v began. New types had to be introduced and others were outdated. The Torpedoboot also included destroyers, the Kleiner Kreuzer had reached the dimensions of the great cruiser, the Große Kreuzer included armoured cruisers, battle cruisers but also older cruisers.
 
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Yes,problem with definition of destroyer. It was something to destroy torpedo-boats, but becouse first one had only HMG,first german destroyers had 50mm guns - enough for destroing torpedo boats. Unfortunatelly for them, when they faced british destroyers with 102mm guns, they die.
 
In question of the ships being built, one has to regard the time they were made. SMS Emden for example was from 1908. The order dates from 1905. HMAS Sydney, her opponent, was laid down 1911! It was a full light cruiser. The protected cruisers of the Topaze class as contemporary ships of Emden were also armed with 4" guns. The same is true for the destroyers. The type 1898 Großes Torpedoboot was armed with 1 or 2 8,8 cm guns and 4 5,2 cm guns as well as 3 45 cm torpedo tubes. Their British equivalent had 1 3", 5 5,7 cm guns and 2 45 cm tubes.

The German error was to keep the lower calibers too long. That will be corrected here.

The C class were still rated as destroyers while they weren't any longer. OTOH the type 1916 boats were rated as torpedo boats, although they were full destroyers! Things will become even more complicated soon. ;)

P.S.: Well, these ships could be called destroyer even in ww2:

Großes Torpedoboot 1916 History

The Imperial German Navy (Hochseeflotte), Großes Torpedoboot 1916 History, Torpedoboats, Großes Torpedoboot 1916, They were the most powerful torpedoboats build by the German Navy at their time - the first German

These plans did U-234 had on board:

Zerstörer 1944 History

The German Kriegsmarine, Zerstörer 1944 History, Destroyer, Zerstörer 1944, Projected diesel powered destroyer for Atlantic operations., Zerstörer 1944 class
 
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I am a bit lost, as I don't have the exact cargo list of U-234, especially no inventory of the 3+ tons (!!!) of blue prints. Because of this I declare that every ww2 weapon system was included.
 
I am a bit lost, as I don't have the exact cargo list of U-234, especially no inventory of the 3+ tons (!!!) of blue prints. Because of this I declare that every ww2 weapon system was included.

Add blueprints for Lippish P.13 ramjet. It would be supersonic,and fuelled by coal. You can get world not ruled by Emperor oil just like OTL,but King coal.
 
WELL... I have to add, that U-234 indeed had blueprints of the Me 262, including a whole factory. But you need a certain level of knowledge to build such. Here the planes are still mono- or biplanes, which hardly fly 150 kph! They don't have the possibilities to build a Me 262. The Lippisch P.13 is way too bizarre for such a mission, IMO.
 
Wait... What? Is that a thing? Is that even possible?
Ok, my mind just blows, it blows so hard that you should hear the explosion in a few minutes. And you are on the other side of Europe.
I read about it in books of Igor Witkowski, but here is wiki : Lippisch P.13a - Wikipedia
It never fly,but i really want to see it mass produced - not for war,but to change economical history and dethrone Emperor oil.Or rather,prevent it from becoming emperor in first place.
 
I read about it in books of Igor Witkowski, but here is wiki : Lippisch P.13a - Wikipedia
It never fly,but i really want to see it mass produced - not for war,but to change economical history and dethrone Emperor oil.Or rather,prevent it from becoming emperor in first place.

The Lippisch P.13a may have never flown, but it was on of many airplane ideas with coaldust as fuel.
But I can't tell you how high the fuel efficiency was. As far as i know it was an emergency solution due to lack of fuel OTL.
 
Oh, I see. Well, the preceding conversation involved planes and coal dust, so I assumed the iceberg had something to do with either or both of those.
 
Infomation on U-234 from old sources

Joseph M. Scalia. Germany's Last Mission to Japan: The Failed
Voyage of U-234. Annapolis: Naval Institute Press, 2000. xxiv + 296
pp. Photographs, appendix, notes, bibliography, index. $29.95
(cloth), ISBN 1-55750-811-9.

U-234 was carrying twelve passengers, including a German general, four German naval officers, civilian engineers and scientists and two Japanese naval officers. The German personnel included General Ulrich Kessler of the Luftwaffe, who was to take over Luftwaffe liaison duties in Tokyo; Kay Nieschling, a Naval Fleet Judge Advocate who was to rid the German diplomatic corps in Japan of the remnants of the Richard Sorge spy ring; Heinz Schlicke, a specialist in radar, infra-red, and countermeasures and director of the Naval Test Fields in Kiel (later recruited by the USA in Operation Paperclip); and August Bringewalde, who was in charge of Me 262 production at Messerschmitt.[5]

The Japanese passengers were Lieutenant Commander Hideo Tomonaga of the Imperial Japanese Navy, a naval architect and submarine designer who had come to Germany in 1943 on the Japanese submarine I-29, and Lieutenant Commander Shoji Genzo, an aircraft specialist and former naval attaché.[6]

Best Wishes for your safety.
 
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