Whenever you have the chance, please edit in the choice for "What hand do you bat with and throw with?" into your answer. Thanks
Big Dongs and Long Thongs (A Journey to the Major Leagues Baseball Quest)
- Thread starter okmangeez
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Whenever you have the chance, please edit in the choice for "What hand do you bat with and throw with?" into your answer. Thanks
Just like baseball is a game of statistics (as the QM points out in the opening of his post about Ratings, Attributes and Traits), this quest also is.
So in the spirit of the game, here's an analysis of our options.
In the "what type of hitter" options, there are 3 types of boosts and 3 types of penalties mentioned:
-Boost > small boost > minimal boost
-Penalty > slight penalty > no penalty
We're not sure what their numerical value is, of course. It could be 50 > 25 > 10/0 or 40 > 20 > 10/0 or 10 > 5 > 1/0. Or anything else. Who knows? For the sake of having numbers to illustrate stuff, I'll pick one (and I guess I'll go with the first set), but like I said, it could be completely different.
Either way, these are the options, rearranged for better comparison:
[] Eagle Eye. You will receive a boost to your Eye and Avoid K's ratings. However, you will receive slight penalties for your Contact and Power ratings.
+50, +50, -25, -25
[] Professional Bunter. You will receive a boost to your Bunt and Speed ratings. However, you will receive a penalty for your Contact rating.
+50, +50, - 50
[] Hitting Machine. You will receive a boost to your Contact rating but a slight penalty to your Gap Power and Power ratings.
+50, -25, -25
[] Slugger. You will receive a boost to your Power rating but a slight penalty to your Contact and Avoid K's ratings.
+50, -25, -25
[] Warning Track Guy. You will receive a small boost to your Gap Power and Contact ratings and no penalties to other hitting categories.
+25, +25
[] Speedster. You will receive a small boost to your Contact, Speed, and Base Stealing ratings. However, you will receive a penalty for your Power rating.
+25, +25, +25, -50
[] Balanced. You will receive a minimal boost to all of your hitting categories and a slight improvement to your L/R Splits.
+10, +10, +10, +10, +10, +10, +10, +10 and +10 (maybe?) for L/R Splits
Notable things from the QM's Ratings, Attributes and Traits post:
-Contact: perhaps the most important rating
-Power: easier to develop than Contact
-Eye: affects OBP (one of the most important baseball stats)
-Avoid K's: works well with Eye
-L/R Splits: starts with a 15% negative modifier vs bad matchups
-Running Speed: meh on its own, works well with many other ratings
-Base Stealing: dying art
-Bunt: almost dead art
In light of this, I'd say that, from a general and rather dry and limited point of view, Eagle Eye is better than Professional Bunter, and Hitting Machine is significantly better than Slugger.
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Moving on to "what type of fielder are you" options, there are only one type of boost and one type of penalty (slight), here:
[] Vaccum Cleaner. You will receive a boost to your Fielding Error rating but a slight penalty to your Fielding Range. +50, -25
[] Desert Eagle. You will receive a boost to your Fielding Arm rating but a slight penalty to your Fielding Error. +50, -25
[] Outfield Clipper. You will receive a boost to your Fielding Range but a slight penalty to your Fielding Arm. +50, -25
[] The Great Wall. You will receive a boost to your Catcher Ability and Game Sense but slight penalties to other fielding categories. Only pick this choice if you have selected Catcher as your position. +50, +50, -25, -25, -25
[] Sixth Sense. You will receive a boost to your Game Sense but slight penalties to the other fielding categories. +50, -25, -25, -25, -25
Notable things from the QM's Ratings, Attributes and Traits post:
-Fielding Error: starts fairly high and every 10 points in it will decrease 1 error per season on average.
-Fielding Range: very much affected by the Running Speed rating
-Fielding Arm: useful to a lot of positions, including Catchers (who would get a penalty to it)
-Game Sense: affects a loooooot of things, including our time at bat
In light of this, I'd say that, while the first three options are numerically equal among themselves, Vacuum Cleaner is arguably worse than the others. As for the latter two, The Great Wall is evidently better than Sixth Sense, but if we choose it, we're limited to Catcher as a position.
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I'll likely make a plan in a few hours, but maybe someone else will find this useful in the meantime.
So in the spirit of the game, here's an analysis of our options.
In the "what type of hitter" options, there are 3 types of boosts and 3 types of penalties mentioned:
-Boost > small boost > minimal boost
-Penalty > slight penalty > no penalty
We're not sure what their numerical value is, of course. It could be 50 > 25 > 10/0 or 40 > 20 > 10/0 or 10 > 5 > 1/0. Or anything else. Who knows? For the sake of having numbers to illustrate stuff, I'll pick one (and I guess I'll go with the first set), but like I said, it could be completely different.
Either way, these are the options, rearranged for better comparison:
[] Eagle Eye. You will receive a boost to your Eye and Avoid K's ratings. However, you will receive slight penalties for your Contact and Power ratings.
+50, +50, -25, -25
[] Professional Bunter. You will receive a boost to your Bunt and Speed ratings. However, you will receive a penalty for your Contact rating.
+50, +50, - 50
[] Hitting Machine. You will receive a boost to your Contact rating but a slight penalty to your Gap Power and Power ratings.
+50, -25, -25
[] Slugger. You will receive a boost to your Power rating but a slight penalty to your Contact and Avoid K's ratings.
+50, -25, -25
[] Warning Track Guy. You will receive a small boost to your Gap Power and Contact ratings and no penalties to other hitting categories.
+25, +25
[] Speedster. You will receive a small boost to your Contact, Speed, and Base Stealing ratings. However, you will receive a penalty for your Power rating.
+25, +25, +25, -50
[] Balanced. You will receive a minimal boost to all of your hitting categories and a slight improvement to your L/R Splits.
+10, +10, +10, +10, +10, +10, +10, +10 and +10 (maybe?) for L/R Splits
Notable things from the QM's Ratings, Attributes and Traits post:
-Contact: perhaps the most important rating
-Power: easier to develop than Contact
-Eye: affects OBP (one of the most important baseball stats)
-Avoid K's: works well with Eye
-L/R Splits: starts with a 15% negative modifier vs bad matchups
-Running Speed: meh on its own, works well with many other ratings
-Base Stealing: dying art
-Bunt: almost dead art
In light of this, I'd say that, from a general and rather dry and limited point of view, Eagle Eye is better than Professional Bunter, and Hitting Machine is significantly better than Slugger.
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Moving on to "what type of fielder are you" options, there are only one type of boost and one type of penalty (slight), here:
[] Vaccum Cleaner. You will receive a boost to your Fielding Error rating but a slight penalty to your Fielding Range. +50, -25
[] Desert Eagle. You will receive a boost to your Fielding Arm rating but a slight penalty to your Fielding Error. +50, -25
[] Outfield Clipper. You will receive a boost to your Fielding Range but a slight penalty to your Fielding Arm. +50, -25
[] The Great Wall. You will receive a boost to your Catcher Ability and Game Sense but slight penalties to other fielding categories. Only pick this choice if you have selected Catcher as your position. +50, +50, -25, -25, -25
[] Sixth Sense. You will receive a boost to your Game Sense but slight penalties to the other fielding categories. +50, -25, -25, -25, -25
Notable things from the QM's Ratings, Attributes and Traits post:
-Fielding Error: starts fairly high and every 10 points in it will decrease 1 error per season on average.
-Fielding Range: very much affected by the Running Speed rating
-Fielding Arm: useful to a lot of positions, including Catchers (who would get a penalty to it)
-Game Sense: affects a loooooot of things, including our time at bat
In light of this, I'd say that, while the first three options are numerically equal among themselves, Vacuum Cleaner is arguably worse than the others. As for the latter two, The Great Wall is evidently better than Sixth Sense, but if we choose it, we're limited to Catcher as a position.
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I'll likely make a plan in a few hours, but maybe someone else will find this useful in the meantime.
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[X] Plan "Good Off the Bat to Be Great On the Bat"
-[X] Bat Left, Throw Right
-[X] Warning Track Guy. You will receive a small boost to your Gap Power and Contact ratings and no penalties to other hitting categories.
-[X] Left Field. Left Fielders are usually the worst outfielders defensively. However, a poor fielding Left Fielder is expected to make up for it with their bat.
-[X] Sixth Sense. You will receive a boost to your Game Sense but slight penalties to the other fielding categories.
-[X] Loyal
-[X] Hard-Working
-[X] Stubborn
-[X] A private high school with a Division 1 Baseball Team. I'm going to a school that strongly supports its baseball team and win the State Championship with them!
Choices to get better fast:
-Hard-Working to get more chances to improve and raise our Ratings
-Loyal to get more opportunities from the coach/staff, included 1v1 training (which offers more than team practice)
-Division 1 Baseball Team to get quality coaching and facilities (which we're addicted to, since we picked Businessman)
-Left Field to let us focus on batting first (but with the quantity and quality of training we should have, we could improve at this quickly as well)
Choices to be a good hitter immediately:
-Warning Track Guy to get a small boost in two of the most important and synergic hitting Ratings
-Warning Track to get no penalties to hitting Rating
-Sixth Sense to get a boost in Game Sense, which helps hitting, among many other things (not to mention better game choices/options)
-[X] Bat Left, Throw Right
-[X] Warning Track Guy. You will receive a small boost to your Gap Power and Contact ratings and no penalties to other hitting categories.
-[X] Left Field. Left Fielders are usually the worst outfielders defensively. However, a poor fielding Left Fielder is expected to make up for it with their bat.
-[X] Sixth Sense. You will receive a boost to your Game Sense but slight penalties to the other fielding categories.
-[X] Loyal
-[X] Hard-Working
-[X] Stubborn
-[X] A private high school with a Division 1 Baseball Team. I'm going to a school that strongly supports its baseball team and win the State Championship with them!
Choices to get better fast:
-Hard-Working to get more chances to improve and raise our Ratings
-Loyal to get more opportunities from the coach/staff, included 1v1 training (which offers more than team practice)
-Division 1 Baseball Team to get quality coaching and facilities (which we're addicted to, since we picked Businessman)
-Left Field to let us focus on batting first (but with the quantity and quality of training we should have, we could improve at this quickly as well)
Choices to be a good hitter immediately:
-Warning Track Guy to get a small boost in two of the most important and synergic hitting Ratings
-Warning Track to get no penalties to hitting Rating
-Sixth Sense to get a boost in Game Sense, which helps hitting, among many other things (not to mention better game choices/options)
Epic Bygones would you consider changing loyal to either of Disciplined, Intelligent or Perceptive?
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Sure. I'm not married to it or anything. And Disciplined probably fits more with our previous choices. I'll edit the plan.
Actually, since I'm not sure if that works, I'll just go ahead and revote with the change.
[X] Plan "Good Off the Bat to Be Great On the Bat"
-[X] Bat Left, Throw Right
-[X] Warning Track Guy. You will receive a small boost to your Gap Power and Contact ratings and no penalties to other hitting categories.
-[X] Left Field. Left Fielders are usually the worst outfielders defensively. However, a poor fielding Left Fielder is expected to make up for it with their bat.
-[X] Sixth Sense. You will receive a boost to your Game Sense but slight penalties to the other fielding categories.
-[X] Disciplined
-[X] Hard-Working
-[X] Stubborn
-[X] A private high school with a Division 1 Baseball Team. I'm going to a school that strongly supports its baseball team and win the State Championship with them!
Actually, since I'm not sure if that works, I'll just go ahead and revote with the change.
[X] Plan "Good Off the Bat to Be Great On the Bat"
-[X] Bat Left, Throw Right
-[X] Warning Track Guy. You will receive a small boost to your Gap Power and Contact ratings and no penalties to other hitting categories.
-[X] Left Field. Left Fielders are usually the worst outfielders defensively. However, a poor fielding Left Fielder is expected to make up for it with their bat.
-[X] Sixth Sense. You will receive a boost to your Game Sense but slight penalties to the other fielding categories.
-[X] Disciplined
-[X] Hard-Working
-[X] Stubborn
-[X] A private high school with a Division 1 Baseball Team. I'm going to a school that strongly supports its baseball team and win the State Championship with them!
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[X] Plan "Good Off the Bat to Be Great On the Bat"
Corvus Black
The Inestimable
- Location
- England
Can I ask what's wrong with my plan?
i really wanted hard working as one of the pluses and i also like Warning Track Guy
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when is the deadline?
The deadline has been extended to 3 PM EST tomorrow since there's a three-way tie.
If it's still a tie by then, I'll roll a dice.
Alright, then. Let's see if I can convince any of the current voters to switch to my plan. Would you take a moment to consider Plan "Good Off the Bat to Be Great On the Bat", @meri47 @Corvus Black @Mask @Magoose ?
The most important choice of the plan is Warning Track Guy. This gives boosts to Contact and Gap Power, which not only makes it more likely we hit the ball, but that we send it where we want to send it, rather than right in the gloves of the other team.
Also key is that this option doesn't give any penalties! If we plan to be the best batters we can be to eventually get in the MLB, starting with lower than average Ratings related to hitting is less than optimal. And if our dream is to dedicate our first home run to our late mother, specializing in Bunting doesn't seem very appropriate.
Getting that Game Sense bonus from Sixth Sense is also huge. Not only will it likely help on all kinds of rolls directly related to baseball and games, but perhaps more importantly, it will give us the "best choice", as the QM put it, or "guaranteed outcomes to improve our in-game performance". These benefits are huge.
While the Catcher option also gives us a boost to Game Sense, I worry that such an important, demanding and injury-riddled position will take opportunities away from our batting, which I feel should be our priority. I would love playing in a Catcher quest, in which the position's duties and challenges are at the forefront, but I think that, by trying to get the best of both worlds, our resources would be stretched too thin and we'd end up being subpar in either or both.
The most important choice of the plan is Warning Track Guy. This gives boosts to Contact and Gap Power, which not only makes it more likely we hit the ball, but that we send it where we want to send it, rather than right in the gloves of the other team.
Also key is that this option doesn't give any penalties! If we plan to be the best batters we can be to eventually get in the MLB, starting with lower than average Ratings related to hitting is less than optimal. And if our dream is to dedicate our first home run to our late mother, specializing in Bunting doesn't seem very appropriate.
Getting that Game Sense bonus from Sixth Sense is also huge. Not only will it likely help on all kinds of rolls directly related to baseball and games, but perhaps more importantly, it will give us the "best choice", as the QM put it, or "guaranteed outcomes to improve our in-game performance". These benefits are huge.
While the Catcher option also gives us a boost to Game Sense, I worry that such an important, demanding and injury-riddled position will take opportunities away from our batting, which I feel should be our priority. I would love playing in a Catcher quest, in which the position's duties and challenges are at the forefront, but I think that, by trying to get the best of both worlds, our resources would be stretched too thin and we'd end up being subpar in either or both.
Corvus Black
The Inestimable
- Location
- England
[X] Plan "Good Off the Bat to Be Great On the Bat"
Corvus Black
The Inestimable
- Location
- England
Please note that Disciplined replaced Loyal in the plan.
Noted. Thanks for the heads up.
I should have changed the name of the new version of the plan, I think. The tally got messed up, though it didn't matter. Good to keep in mind for the future, anyway!
I am in favor for this. Cheers for a blunting pro!
Edit: Didn't realized voting closed.
Character Sheet
Lucian Sparks
Age: 14
Gender: Male
Bat: Left
Throw: Right
Position: Left Field
Height: 5'8
Weight: 140
Overall Rating: 35
Age: 14
Gender: Male
Bat: Left
Throw: Right
Position: Left Field
Height: 5'8
Weight: 140
Overall Rating: 35
Contact: 46
Gap Power: 38
Power: 17
Eye: 20
Avoid K's: 37
L/R Splits: -15% against Lefties, 0% against Righties
Running Speed: 30
Base Stealing: 25
Bunt: 33
Fielding Error: 99
Fielding Range: 13
Fielding Arm: 28
Game Sense: 51
Clutch: 34
Gap Power: 38
Power: 17
Eye: 20
Avoid K's: 37
L/R Splits: -15% against Lefties, 0% against Righties
Running Speed: 30
Base Stealing: 25
Bunt: 33
Fielding Error: 99
Fielding Range: 13
Fielding Arm: 28
Game Sense: 51
Clutch: 34
Leadership: 70
Loyalty: 69
Work Ethic: 85
Intelligence: 76
Adaptability: 37
Consistency: 46
Handling Failures: 18
Controversy: 6
Loyalty: 69
Work Ethic: 85
Intelligence: 76
Adaptability: 37
Consistency: 46
Handling Failures: 18
Controversy: 6
Life is... a Visual Novel?: You are good at planning for the long game and quick, both mentally and physically. However, if you fail, you have no save points to return to. As a result, you're not too great at handling failures and admitting your mistakes. (+15 to Work Ethic, Speed, and Intelligence. +10 to Rolls involving Intelligence, -15 to Consistency and Handling Failures).
Stubborn: You are unyielding, which is both a good and bad thing in baseball. (+15 to Clutch, -15 to Handling Failures and Adaptability until this trait is removed).
Stubborn: You are unyielding, which is both a good and bad thing in baseball. (+15 to Clutch, -15 to Handling Failures and Adaptability until this trait is removed).
Life is a Game: Earned the Trait: "Life is... a Visual Novel?"
Businessman: +5 to all Hitting, Running, and Fielding categories, +10 to Game Sense, -10 to Consistency, -10 Handling Failures
Warning Track Guy: +5 to Contact and Gap Power
Left Field: +2 to Contact, Power, and Gap Power. -2 to all Fielding categories
Sixth Sense: +10 to Game Sense, -5 to all Fielding categories
Disciplined: +5 to Eye and Avoid K's. +10 to Leadership and Consistency.
Hard-Working: +10 to Work Ethic
Stubborn: -10 to Handling Failures and Adaptability
New Trait unlocked from low stats in the Attributes 'Handling Failures' and 'Adaptability': "Stubborn."
Businessman: +5 to all Hitting, Running, and Fielding categories, +10 to Game Sense, -10 to Consistency, -10 Handling Failures
Warning Track Guy: +5 to Contact and Gap Power
Left Field: +2 to Contact, Power, and Gap Power. -2 to all Fielding categories
Sixth Sense: +10 to Game Sense, -5 to all Fielding categories
Disciplined: +5 to Eye and Avoid K's. +10 to Leadership and Consistency.
Hard-Working: +10 to Work Ethic
Stubborn: -10 to Handling Failures and Adaptability
New Trait unlocked from low stats in the Attributes 'Handling Failures' and 'Adaptability': "Stubborn."
Bruce+Bolt Batting Gloves: +3 to Contact
Balanced Louisville Slugger Bat: +1 to Power and +3 to Gap Power
Balanced Louisville Slugger Bat: +1 to Power and +3 to Gap Power
Isaac Palmer: A Freshman Centerfielder at Mitty High School. You met him at your first session at the baseball camp at Mitty High School. He and you are friends, kinda. Relationship: +10
- Self-Doubter: +20 Handling Failures, -10 to all Batting Ratings, Lower chance of accepting requests that involve managers and coaches.
Coach Harris: The Third Base Coach for the Mitty Varsity Team. He and you are somewhat friendly, though you two are definitely not 'friends.' Relationship: +15
- Veteran Strategist: Boost to actions involving Intelligence, Game Sense, and Handling Failures
Haga Tomoko: A random softball player that ran into you while you were watching the softball team... practice. You traded a few words with her, but the two of you are strangers. Relationship: ???
- Self-Doubter: +20 Handling Failures, -10 to all Batting Ratings, Lower chance of accepting requests that involve managers and coaches.
Coach Harris: The Third Base Coach for the Mitty Varsity Team. He and you are somewhat friendly, though you two are definitely not 'friends.' Relationship: +15
- Veteran Strategist: Boost to actions involving Intelligence, Game Sense, and Handling Failures
Haga Tomoko: A random softball player that ran into you while you were watching the softball team... practice. You traded a few words with her, but the two of you are strangers. Relationship: ???
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Corvus Black
The Inestimable
- Location
- England
Left Field
Whoops! Fixed.
Corvus Black
The Inestimable
- Location
- England
Am I right in assuming Lucian was born in 1976, since he was 5 years old during the 1981 World Series?
The Quest is set around modern-day (2012 to be exact). So Lucian was born in 1998.
Corvus Black
The Inestimable
- Location
- England
Ah, I thought the below meant that he watched the World Series when it happened.