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Taylor is such an uncaring monster. D:Won't anyone think of all the poor retirees whose metal detector hobby she just ruined??
Yup. Canberra.
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I promised a party sheet when we had all the current members.
Brb.
Taylor is such an uncaring monster. D:Won't anyone think of all the poor retirees whose metal detector hobby she just ruined??
Yup. Canberra.
I think it means, roughly:
It means her striker power completely uncounterable by the PRT and that it's capable of ending the planet's capacity to support life.
Tactics: Ask very politely what she wants, and then give it to her. Whatever it is.It means her striker power completely uncounterable by the PRT and that it's capable of ending the planet's capacity to support life.
High level Thinker, when asked a question, her mind filled with flashes of images pertaining to possible futures, followed by a percentile number in her mind pertaining to the likelihood of a given event.
Striker "In the event this person becomes hostile, the most rational course of action is to quarantine every planet they've been to, and abandon whichever they happen to be on."
Yup. There were some votes on PHO handles, and SP won for Mads, bringing a bundle of fanon with it.Given context, I assume that SP = Madison is a go in this continuation?
You have to remember, she is no longer limited by subject mass. It's slow, but getting faster, and means she can start with a microscopic bacteria and eventually build it into a literal kaiju, if given absolutely nothing else.I'm pretty sure that a rating of 14 is too high. It's a lot lower for Amy since big changes take a lot of time. Wildbow gave an example of a Tinker 15 and it was horrific.
Anything can be countered, even Scion, the Endbringers, and Sting. The best way to counter Amy has always been to knock her out or kill her before she could act, then erase the area just to be sure. I'm not saying she can't be beaten, but it gets a little ridiculous what that takes if you start after she cuts loose.Striker 10, maybe 11. She's not uncounterable: Eidolon could counter her, and the Endbringers could counter her, at the very least. Bonesaw could counter her if given enough of a head-start and The Fairy Queen might have the right combination of powers to counter her.
Striker "In the event this person becomes hostile, the most rational course of action is to quarantine every planet they've been to, and abandon whichever they happen to be on."
You have to remember, she is no longer limited by subject mass. It's slow, but getting faster, and means she can start with a microscopic bacteria and eventually build it into a literal kaiju, if given absolutely nothing else.
Add that onto what already earned her her at least WoG rating of '12+', and I don't think it's too obscene a final rating.
SP Madison is best Madison.Yup. There were some votes on PHO handles, and SP won for Mads, bringing a bundle of fanon with it.
The problem is that unless your counter is "reducing her body to its constituent elements" the instant the thought of turning against the world crosses her mind, you've already lost.Striker 10, maybe 11. She's not uncounterable: Eidolon could counter her, and the Endbringers could counter her, at the very least. Bonesaw could counter her if given enough of a head-start and The Fairy Queen might have the right combination of powers to counter her.
The problem is that unless your counter is "reducing her body to its constituent elements" the instant the thought of turning against the world crosses her mind, you've already lost.
Striker 10, maybe 11. She's not uncounterable: Eidolon could counter her, and the Endbringers could counter her, at the very least. Bonesaw could counter her if given enough of a head-start and The Fairy Queen might have the right combination of powers to counter her.
Yer, the whole rating system gets silly as a concept above a 9, which is almost literally "Call base and pray someone has a solution."keep in mind, that what the threat rating really implies is reactionary tactics for the normal PRT soldier. at 12+ or an un-confirmed higher rating, the PRT and the protectorate are essentially washing their hands of any conflict with her.
Huh. I thought he was a 10.I definitely think that she's 10+, but remember that Eidolon is 13, and I don't think she's a bigger threat than he is.
Nah, 14 was a fun number that sounded right. I don't think anyone's actually getting a higher rating ever.When she gets her next 2 power bumps, of wich I would assume is self-manton disablement, and possibly a range increase, that would numb that up to 15 since those prior examples probobly wouldn't be a Ken to stop her even next to her then, withought a strait up power disability trump.
Panacea's plagues are limited by biological possibility, meaning they have to get the energy to move from somewhere, for example, so they can't just expand faster than the wind can carry them.
I don't really see how any threat model based on disease transmission could reasonably get Panpan a higher rating than Bonesaw, who a) definitely literally had world-ending bioplagues pre-made, and b) her plagues were actually tinkertech, meaning they could break the laws of physics. Panacea's plagues are limited by biological possibility, meaning they have to get the energy to move from somewhere, for example, so they can't just expand faster than the wind can carry them for any meaningful distance.
And while Bonesaw was scary, she wasn't so scary that Defiant hesitated to 1v1 her after a couple of months' preparation.
And PR would crucify her if she responded in kind! She was allowed to be playful, make jokes, but never outright insult anyone. That'd just get her punished, and they knew the best punishments for her were just... sending her home.
We didn't see or hear about them being reprimanded but it may of happened without Vista noticing.SoD broken. Having the ridiculous and impossible PHO mini-interlude was bad enough, but I could ignore the impossibilities with the Wards posting like that on a public forum, but highlighting the problem and then acting as if Clock, Vista, Asault's and possibly even Shadow Stalker's posts were considered acceptable?
I'll see if I can skip over the problem and continue reading because other than this it was a great story, but this is utterly ridiculous.
That fits her canon powerset.Striker "In the event this person becomes hostile, the most rational course of action is to quarantine every planet they've been to, and abandon whichever they happen to be on."
That would under the right circumstances be a massive power up relative to her canon powers, and may boost her master rating up significantly, however it won't affect her striker rating at all. Her striker rating would remain in the 5-6 range, possibly 7 as long as she needs actual skin contact to affect someone a team of PRT officers could easily capture her, and with some difficulty and prep time prevent her from attacking anyone...unless she'd made minions to help her fight (Master rating, probably 8+ with the new power 10+ or higher), managed to take control of other parahumans or even modify their powers to better suit her (Increase the master rating and add a trump rating), or if she made some timebomb plague (Shaker 12+ for global level threat and tinker of some sort) or made herself some biological power armor (Tinker, with brute mover and probably blaster ratings).You have to remember, she is no longer limited by subject mass. It's slow, but getting faster, and means she can start with a microscopic bacteria and eventually build it into a literal kaiju, if given absolutely nothing else.
It's justifiable, just not as a striker rating. Not unless Wildbow came up with another new explanation of what the ratings actually mean.Add that onto what already earned her her at least WoG rating of '12+', and I don't think it's too obscene a final rating.
The issue is that she thinks she'd get puniushed for responding to SS, but not punished for the posts she did make which from a PR POV would actually be a lot worse than insulting someone. She also doesn't think about any of the other posts as being something they'd get in trouble for when that would be one of the basic lessons image would go over with them again and again.We didn't see or hear about them being reprimanded but it may of happened without Vista noticing.
I don't really see how any threat model based on disease transmission could reasonably get Panpan a higher rating than Bonesaw, who a) definitely literally had world-ending bioplagues pre-made, and b) her plagues were actually tinkertech, meaning they could break the laws of physics. Panacea's plagues are limited by biological possibility, meaning they have to get the energy to move from somewhere, for example, so they can't just expand faster than the wind can carry them for any meaningful distance.
And while Bonesaw was scary, she wasn't so scary that Defiant hesitated to 1v1 her after a couple of months' preparation.
Keep in mind that he was intentionally crippled by his own power because otherwise he could be a threat to the entities. Here, Amy is breaking the limits of her power due to spirit shenanigans, and it's not at all anything the Entities would have intended.
While you're right about her limits, that would justify a high Tinker rating, or possible a high shaker or master rating. As long as the Striker rating is the only one that matters (i.e "Has a power that applies on physical contact") then taking her down is going to be quite easy for a trained team and even a random civilian with a tazer or dart gun could do it. Of course keeping her power contained is a bit more difficult, but for her canon power still quite possible for a team of PRT agents. With her revised power they will probably need parahuman support to do it.if your tactics amount to, "she is angry, put your gun on the ground and pray" then it is way beyond what could reasonably be controlled, or contained. and what i was attempting (probably poorly) to highlight, was less of the plague idea, and more of the fact that Panacea is essentially only limited by her own creativity and morality.