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Aria's Advisor (Mass Effect SI)

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Well, I can say that one of the objects in the comic will be showing up in the story, and I don't know how krahe knew that it would be popping up.

Also, what.
 
yeah i got that. i have seen that before. i want to know why he put that there. As far as i can tell it has nothing to do with anything else in this thread.
 
No, I rather like the picture, though it is close to thread derailing. I'll let it slide this time, but please, let's not not jump on krahe yet.

Next time, I would prefer to have a picture more closely related to what we are discussing, however.

Getting this lot back on track is hard enough already.

EDIT: High tech? It was a good, advanced shotgun. Cerberus was too dumb to realize it's possible applications, so I used them instead. Cerberus wasn't going to wedge-rig all of their weapons, so it isn't that bad.

And really, just wait until I meet with the Council.

EDIT2: Also, let it be known that I prefer worship in the forms of omakes and ideas, not pictures.
 
ever since i met Kaloog i have hated thread drialors. he got a person to stop a story and he thought it was funny. so yeah Karhe is lucky i didn't report him.
 
Just blazed through everything so far. And needless to say I am fucking impressed. I am so hungry for more.
 
No, I don't need the Cipher for what I going to do. That's one of the first things I wanted to avoid when I was planning this. Because an SI with a Cipher is 'godly important', so important that some of them start with the Cipher in their heads. No, I want this to be a wake-up call, something that theoretically anyone could have done in my place.

Besides, that's like using a shitty ripped version of Parallels, when you could just go buy a new computer.
 
I honestly hadn't thought of the SI 'Nick' actually having the cypher directly. It was more of a way to get the most out of the Prothean Archives.
 
No, what you guys were discussing (having another Asari with the Cipher) was a little better, but still unnecessary. I've already have a way around that problem.
 
There's no need for the author to get it. Just convince Aria to provide the cash and connections to get the Feros survivors the needed medical care in exchange for Shiala being on call to help out with any Prothean stuff that comes up.
 
Nightblade said:
Plus if you get it it would be easier to wake up javik
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We don't need the Cipher to figure out how to awaken Javik, we just an ungodly amount of man-hours spent trying to crack the Cipher's basic information, how to rig up a device, so to speak, so that we can do that.

In the short term, getting Shiala would be a better idea, if I could find her, and if I could convince Aria to spend that money. I like the Shiala idea, it's just that I originally came up with a different, harder way of waking up Javik, and am reluctant to let it go entirely to waste. It's a bad thing to be holding onto, but I will be merging the two ideas.
Parley said:
The thing that really bugs me so far is that apparently biotocs have no concept of small scale mass effect fields. I could accept that it is prohibitively difficult, or requires tech that could build a small city in cost. The idea that it's possible, and nobody has thought about it and tried hard enough? It sounds silly. Maybe I just read it wrong.
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See, that's what bother me, as well. I hated that, and given all of the problems in the Mass Effect universe, I'm not going to bullshit a reason and handwave it away. No, I see it as very possible that the biotics of the galaxy are that. Fucking. Dumb.
Serran said:
If Sovereign = Geth then the Geth have all of Sovereigns tech and can build another one given some time. Since they wanted the Citadel as the center of the Galaxy and failed their next plan would likely be a wave of Sovereign class ships a few years later over the Homeworld of you choice. So even if you do not believe in the Reapers why are you not franatically buidling up your forces for the "inventiable" war with the Geth
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This is why I hate the Council, and why I refuse to handwave these plotholes for them to maintain the original balance, so to speak. There is no Handwave, justified or otherwise, that can excuse this plothole, or the millions of others.

But I won't be using that argument, because all it does is reveal how corrupt the Council is, and I already know that. I don't need to crack open the illusion of their public service; I'm travelling with Aria, therefore the illusion is already gone.
 
Parley said:
The thing that really bugs me so far is that apparently biotocs have no concept of small scale mass effect fields. I could accept that it is prohibitively difficult, or requires tech that could build a small city in cost. The idea that it's possible, and nobody has thought about it and tried hard enough? It sounds silly. Maybe I just read it wrong.
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Small scale as in? Crush your enemy's heart inside his chest? Cause him to suffer an aneurism? Crush carbon into diamonds? Use gravity lensing effect to make yourself a nice, adjustable pair of glasses / binoculars? Create a micro-wormhole? Bend lasers around you so as not to trigger an alarm? Make yourself stronger?
 
Parley said:
Small scale as described in this fic. Taking a specific limb in one direction while the rest of the body goes in another, snapping a neck, twisting a limb in a way it was not designed to go - the sort of thing you never see in the games. I always half expected a scene in the games with the Asari commando simply lifting up the bad guy and pulling him into a dozen bloody chunks. Obviously, never happened.

Although some of your suggestions are cool, I dont think mass effect fields on a personal scale are strong, long term, or accurate enough. I dont think warping space enough for a wormhole or creating diamonds from a hunk of carbon possible without computers or industrial equipment. Crushing a specific blood vessel in the brain is a world apart from just creating a chunk of force an inch in diamater along someone's torso. Using something like gravity lensing would be neat though, although it wouldn't really do something binoculars cant easier.
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Oh, hell no. You are very correct. Small-scale biotics are hilariously limited, by an SBer's thoughts. We can't create diamonds with them, we can't levitate, we can't use the gamebreaking Eragon brain-kill.

But we can use biotics in new ways. We can push someone's neck off, or pull someone's gun away from them. We can do a lot of very useful stuff that makes imagination a useful tool for a biotic. It makes things less like a game limited by the engine, and more like a dynamic world.
ZeroTWolfram said:
Dumb isn't quite the word I'd use. Too steeped in tradition? I think that works better. The Asari are the dominant biotics of the galaxy and they live for 1000 years. Imagine what Earth would look like if the people who disliked changed hung around in positions of authority for hundreds of years. I call it this general line of thought the bureaucracy conjecture. The Asari don't make much progress in a human lifetime because they're too weight down by tradition, the influence of power individuals who like things the way they were, and bureaucracy. Being one of the most politically important races and the strongest biotic one, they then spread this effect to other races.
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A better assessment, as I am letting my ANGER takes control. Highly traditional is a better way to put it, but it's... archaic decadence.

Aria saw the same thing, and is very much a defector from decadence.
ZeroTWolfram said:
We know from the books that small biotic effects are possible. The second book staring Anderson and Sanders (the one after Revelations) had Nick knock over someone else's milk with his biotics without hitting anything else. The question is can the power of such an effect be scaled up without increasing the area of effect. If ME3 mechanics are taken as representing how biotics actually work (a rather sketchy assumption) then we know they can, as the power evolutions that increased the AoE of the various abilities were usually in opposition to ones that increased the abilities force and damage.
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The problem, I think, is that everyone wanted to make it bigger and better, rather than smaller and better.

However, if anyone had, it would have been Aria or some other highly experienced Commando, and remember, we never got Aria's opinion on the matter.
 
Parley said:
I dont think warping space enough for a wormhole or creating diamonds from a hunk of carbon possible without computers or industrial equipment.
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They can make freaking singularities. If you can make a singularity, and can make the same effect in reverse (i.e.creating equally strong antygravity repulsive field), you can make wormholes. Or at least you should be able too.

Add to that that if you can create singularities, then you have perfect shielding. As in totally perfect. The one that no one, ever, is going to pierce.

Create singularity around you. Nothing can pass through it.

By the way, this is an idea for technological development: singularity projectors are known. Place enough of them around the hull, and use them as point defence, allowing incoming projectiles to fly into them. The dissipation may be a problem though.If you can, project a singularity shell around you. Nothing will be able to pass through it. The downside is that all matter impacting it will be converted into energy, and you may not be able to dissipate the field. You'll be able to negate this with anti-gravity field.

But yes, that's a perfect shield.
 
Biotic singularities are not physical singularities (like a black hole). Their behavior and effect is totally different.
 
Why stop at double jump. If Mass effect can reduce effective mass wouldn't extreme movement become possible. Heighten jumps, slower/faster acceleration, longer jump time,etc. Imagine parkour versionX10.

Although cost wise the problem would be at minimum the time based(?) endurance. At worst the stress of using biotics for these actions are just as bad as the standard adept arsenal.

Ps: about to go to sleep so my post is probably not logical
 
hrogge said:
Biotic singularities are not physical singularities (like a black hole). Their behavior and effect is totally different.
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Err... Proof, please? They look like ones. Admittedly, the large size of the singularity "ball" is obviously not the event horizon, but they do seem like an area of super-intense gravity.

EDIT: And then there is blackstorm. From the codex:
The Blackstorm, colloquially called the "black hole gun" encases a few particles of matter within a high-powered mass-increasing field, elevating them to near-infinite mass. This creates a gravitational singularity that draws nearby enemies and objects inward for a short time. The rapidly-increasing gravity near the singularity's event horizon rips objects apart. The mass effect field soon destabilizes and returns to normal mass, with explosive results.
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Now, near-infinite mass is a hyperbole, but the point stands - this thing creates black holes.
 
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