An Imago of Rust and Crimson (Worm crossover)
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earthboy
(verified ape)
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- NYC
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- He/Him
On a Watsonian level, I'll note that 3rd world nations which lacked a copper wire infrastructure seem to have had an easier time adopting cell technology, and that in the event of a large city-level catastrophe, emergency microwave towers are way easier to set up than emergency wired-telecom relay stations.
But if you want POTS to be a thing, that's easily remedied: the microwave / cell infrastructure is not available to the poor, who have bad credit or no credit or are unable to afford the high up-front cost of a cell phone, so the local telecom monopoly takes the microwave / cell tower data and generously feeds it into the POTS relay stations. (Sometimes POTS goes down but who cares, rich people and first responders can still communicate just fine.)
A not-too-uncommon population of fairly rich people having panoptiPhones may also be useful cover for Capes to disguise their civilian-guise communicators.
I wonder if there is a Free Software super-villain. If your cell phone actually is a tool of imprisonment, there's gotta be someone zealously trying to jail-break them.
But if you want POTS to be a thing, that's easily remedied: the microwave / cell infrastructure is not available to the poor, who have bad credit or no credit or are unable to afford the high up-front cost of a cell phone, so the local telecom monopoly takes the microwave / cell tower data and generously feeds it into the POTS relay stations. (Sometimes POTS goes down but who cares, rich people and first responders can still communicate just fine.)
I wonder if there is justification for a class of "trusted citizens", who have the privilege of carrying around a smart phone with high-speed internet access, in trade for having their location tracked and their behavior analyzed by their pantoptiPhone. These would be the rich but not influential, those whose welfare is invested in the welfare of the system but who are not powerful enough to change the system in any meaningful way.EarthScorpion said:
A not-too-uncommon population of fairly rich people having panoptiPhones may also be useful cover for Capes to disguise their civilian-guise communicators.
I wonder if there is a Free Software super-villain. If your cell phone actually is a tool of imprisonment, there's gotta be someone zealously trying to jail-break them.
I'll note that I did say they have phones. They're just mid-90s phones unless you're rich. Which means you have something which can get texts, phone people, and play Snake. You don't have a built in camera, you don't have an internet browser, you don't have GPS (though no one has GPS, because the Simurgh - while trollfacing - went and smashed up all the satellites in a way to maximise chaotic debris patterns and every attempt to launch anything into orbit has been hit by space debris).zergloli said:
Oh, and jamming devices to fuck up commercial phones have proliferated through the criminal underworld, because honestly, if you can only afford one bit of hypertech from a black market vendor who's selling, a mobile phone jammer is more directly useful than most things and is pretty low-tech hypertech.
Matsci
Grash itsh griah! Rwar arr rawrrawrarar!
Since when is a Radio-jammer hyper-tech?EarthScorpion said:
I believe you said that the Anti-Monitor makes a crappy villain because readers can't grasp the scale of infinite earths and no one would have any reason to care even if they could.EarthScorpion said:Did I say anything at all?
I'm not sure of your opinion on Clueless Autistic Superman. Though I'd think that he'd be too much of a deus ex machina unless you were doing a story about Clueless Autistic Superman struggling with his disabilities, which you don't seem to be.
earthboy
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Perhaps the tech to jam hyper-tech phones is itself hyper-tech?Matsci said:Since when is a Radio-jammer hyper-tech?
Scion can't be a deus ex machina since he was in plain sight for the whole narrative.hyzmarca said:
Chekhov's God, perhaps.
Nero200
High Priest of Eito, Part Time Nyar.
We should really try to mug Chekhov at some point, the amount of loot we could get....zergloli said:
Winged One
Not the Simurgh
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- definitely the ground
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- They/Them/It
Didn't Taylor see some nice glowy butterflies in the nuthouse?
Winged One
Not the Simurgh
- Location
- definitely the ground
- Pronouns
- They/Them/It
Considering it's based on Wormverse, perhaps the Other Place is what the world aspires to be.Jorlem said:
Baughn
Healing-type writer
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- Dublin
So, no Google. Probably no decent search engines at all; that sort of concentration of effort would be one of the first things Ziz would smash up. There's a reason Google is the largest internet company around, and it's largely to do with necessity.
That, along with reduced access, means the internet is a much smaller place - and yet, to find anything there, you need to ask people. It would dramatically increase the importance of well-known places such as PHO, because you can't just google for Shadow Stalker.
That, along with reduced access, means the internet is a much smaller place - and yet, to find anything there, you need to ask people. It would dramatically increase the importance of well-known places such as PHO, because you can't just google for Shadow Stalker.
Kolar
Is Not A Robot
Not sure if it matters really, but Worm'maraca, uses dollar coins. And it makes sense to, considering the cost of replacing worn out bills compared to coins, and the state of the economy.EarthScorpion said:
Edit: Ignore me! My mind automatically jumped to 1$ because I'm stupid.
TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
Does it even count as hypertech at all? I'm pretty sure you could jam a cellphone with WWII technology if you gave them a ten minute explanation.EarthScorpion said:
Revlid
blob of bugs
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- England
Honestly, if it's not just an extension of the cruel metaphor-logic previously on display, it looks more like a They Live reference, which is where DmC ripped it from. They Live had better fights, too.Nero200 said:
That may be plausible but it rings of "no bars". Why go so far?EarthScorpion said:
There's a difference between "people say on the internet that you can get these things, and you can with some work, and maybe even make it work with some technical know-how" and "tech has evolved such that it's common for criminals to have cellphone jammers [+horror]".SolipsistSerpen said:
Chloe Sullivan
Subdefective
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- 1630 Revello Drive, Sunnydale CA
Well, to be fair, most of what we know about Danny in canon is by implication. His anger and hesitancy to talk with his daughter are about all we get of him directly in cannon. But yeah, more fics should give Danny some more character. One of the great things about imago is that Danny actually acts like a union guy, instead of an parental cut-out like in canon.Azunth said:
Only probably?
... Spacebattles. It's like that.Nero200 said:
Prince Charon
Just zis guy, you know?
OK, you have my curiosity. What is it, please?Tavar said:
It occurs to me that this might end up being relevant.
Baughn
Healing-type writer
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- Dublin
That's so saddening. I like things being cheap.Carrnage said:
Clearly, someone who wants to tell you that they're selling clothing "fit for a king/queen".Guessmyname said:
Taylor was hardly in the best mental place when she got these powers, remember? Or physical place, come to mention it.Azunth said:
And what does she see everywhere? Rust, squalor, filth and blood. And she sees everyone as monsters. Possibly related?
(In which EarthScorpion raises the possibility that maybe it was just a "normal" Trigger event all along, she's a parahuman with a powerful Thinker ability combined with a peculiarly flexible minion-making thing which seems to be an expansion of the Thinker stuff, and all the guessing as to what she might have been was a waste of time.
)The nWoD core isn't really a setting in the same sense that, say, the oWoD was. It's more a set of design principles, of theme and feel. Honestly, in some ways it's not really accurate to call it a crossover. And as very broad horror which can be used for a lot of different things, I can take things from where ever I want.Nero200 said:
... however, any use of the DMC remake would be a teeny bit handicapped by the fact I haven't played it.
"Hypertech" in an Imago context really refers to "more advanced than 1995-ish". So, it can be like that for questions of size, power supply, and ability to do computational tricks.Matsci said:Since when is a Radio-jammer hyper-tech?
But yeah, the tinkerfab more-advanced-designs by-and-large are only evolutions of radio jammers. Now, when you get into the kind of Tinkertech things that the government or groups with a pet Tinker might have, then you're getting rather more "hyper" (like something which triangulates the location of every mobile phone in the area and assigns a voice to anyone who tries to use their phone to call), but yeah, the cheaper ones are there to give you more time.
Because in a world with superheroes, having someone with super-speed show up to the crime scene when you're busy really takes the fun out of things.
Trier
Trying fate
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- Digitally existent
Can you call that hi-tech, maybe? Just a suggestion. "Hi-tech", here, now, means things that do awesome things but are out of a lot of people's range. I think that word would work nicely for 2010 tech in Imago.EarthScorpion said:
I still think that Tinkers are being very unimaginative, or greedy, or selfish, or something. I dunno, maybe there're cities out there that aren't too high on the tech curve but just 'acceptable' while being relatively not rich? Like, why aren't there small tickerfab factories scattered around and remotely managed by tightbeam (towers or nodes on roofs) from central, directly managed factories? I know I'm maybe hammering this too much; it's still a bit hard to grasp how much damage Endbringers can do out of schedule. Even though their full-attack schedule is more spaced out (it is twice yearly, no?).
Baughn
Healing-type writer
- Location
- Dublin
Yes, wrong crossover!Nero200 said:
I hope. Otherwise poor Taylor is in an even worse spot. Mixing in MegaTen would be... Problematic.
Nero200
High Priest of Eito, Part Time Nyar.
Yes, lets go with problematic.Baughn said:
There seems to be use of the actual psychology behind the 'Persona' though, Social masks and such, if a little more... literal.
Philemon could be a good cape-name though, if she chooses to stand against what she sees.
Ridiculously Average Guy
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Don't. Play it, I mean. It's not very good.EarthScorpion said:... however, any use of the DMC remake would be a teeny bit handicapped by the fact I haven't played it.