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A man is made by the quality of his enemies (Maric Theirin Quest/CK2/DA)

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[X] [Flemeth] One night of passion. (Morrigan becomes Maric´s daughter)
[X] [Reward] Name him Teyrn of Gwaren
[X] [Start] It is 9:00. In a short campaign most of the castles in Ferelden surrendered to you and Denerim was liberated quickly. (less damage to Ferelden, higher chance of Orlesian intervention)
[X] [Boon] Priceless Artifact
 
[X] [Flemeth] One night of passion. (Morrigan becomes Maric´s daughter)
[X] [Reward] Name him Teyrn of Gwaren
[X] [Start] It is 9:00. In a short campaign most of the castles in Ferelden surrendered to you and Denerim was liberated quickly. (less damage to Ferelden, higher chance of Orlesian intervention)
[X] [Boon] Priceless artifact
 
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[X] [Flemeth] One night of passion. (Morrigan becomes Maric´s daughter)
[X] [Reward] Name him Teyrn of Gwaren
[X] [Start] It is 9:00. In a short campaign most of the castles in Ferelden surrendered to you and Denerim was liberated quickly. (less damage to Ferelden, higher chance of Orlesian intervention)
[X] [Boon] Priceless artifact
 
[X] [Flemeth] Maric has to go to Antiva into the Tellari swamps. (Original as given in comics)
[X] [Reward] Name him Teyrn of Gwaren
[X] [Start] It is 9:02. It took two years to finally end the occupation. Castles had to be besieged and more battles fought but now Ferelden is free again. (more damage to Ferelden, lesser chance of Orlesian intervention)
[X] [Boon] Valuable documents
 
StormLord said:
In that case, King Meghren's dead cousin Felix?
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Correct ^^. Congratulations you get a D10. You can add it to whichever throw you want.

..and vote closed.
Adhoc vote count started by Mortenkam on Jun 19, 2019 at 2:44 PM, finished with 33 posts and 20 votes.
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So now Morrigan's and Alistair's little squabbles are now literally Sibling squabbles.
 
Ghostdevil said:
So now Morrigan's and Alistair's little squabbles are now literally Sibling squabbles.
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Why are you so sure Alistair will exist?:evil:

FYI I think it is kind of funny that you made your highest roll a crit. The boons were roughly meant to represent the different stats. Martial had of course be needed to be split up or it would have been too OP. Treasure (Stewardship), Fleet, Armory and Stable (Martial), Prisoner (Diplomacy), Artifact(Piety) and last but not the least Documents (Intrigue). Considering how Orlais has a massive advantage over Ferelden in this category it was a smart choice.

I will try to get the update out before I go to sleep tonight but honestly the options alone are 33 pages so it could take a little bit more time than I think. To not leave you without anything to discuss or think about I will give you your list of adviser now, but they will be included in the first turn vote. So this is not a vote.

Choose a Marshal:
  1. Loghain Mac Tir: He is recognized as the greatest military mind Ferelden has right now. The best commander you have and more than capable of training new units for the Royal Army like the example of the Nightelves shows.
    Grants 2 actions , flat bonus of 25 to all martial actions he takes, bonus of 30 to all actions involving Fereldans

  2. Branwen: She was the right hand of Rowan and helped her lead the cavalry arm of the rebel forces. In her own right a skilled commander and especially talented in logistics, thanks to the influence of Rowan.
    Grants 2 actions, flat bonus of 10 to all marital action she takes, bonus of 25 to all actions pertaining logistics, bonus of 20 to all action related to cavalry and former rebel forces

  3. Bryce Cousland: The last scion of the mighty Cousland family led the rear guard as the disastrous Battle of White River. Well liked by the other nobles and skilled in warfare he is what a Fereldan noble should be.
    Grants 2 actions, flat bonus of 10 to all martial actions, bonus of 25 to all actions which involve nobles of Ferelden, bonus of 20 to actions pertaining nobles of other countries
Choose your chancellor:
  1. Bryce Cousland: Last living scion of the mighty Cousland family. He is well liked by the other nobles and has shown remarkable diplomatic skill.
    Grants 2 action, flat bonus of 20 to all diplomatic action he takes, flat bonus of 25 to actions in Ferelden

  2. Urien Kendells: Son of a disowned noble family. Their lands were taken by Orlesians, and they went into exile. He was the one, who negotiated the deal with the Antivans and showed himself a literal genius in the realm of negotiation.
    Grants 2 action, flat bonus of 15 to all diplomatic action he takes, flat bonus of 20 to actions relating to other nations

  3. Bann Tremaine: One of the oldest Banns of Ferelden. He commands respect among their ranks and has shown himself to be able to get the Bannorn to agree on something, which is a miracle in and of itself.
    Grants 2 action, flat bonus of 15 to all diplomatic action he takes, flat bonus of 30 to all actions involving the Bannorn, 20 to actions involving Fereldan nobles
Choose a spymaster:
  1. Rendon Howe: Scion of the ancient Howe family. He joined your mother´s forces together with his childhood friends Bryce and Leonas. During his time in hospital helped to build up a large network of spies for your cause.
    Grants 2 actions, flat bonus of 10 to all intrigue action he takes, bonus of 15 to the build up of spy networks

  2. Harwen Raleigh: Commander of the Hard Line and scion of displaced nobles. Has a reputation for dishonorable action but stopped many infiltration attempts by bards.
    Grants 2 action, flat bonus 10 to all intrigue action he takes, bonus of 20 to counterespionage, bonus of 15 to building own force of spies

  3. Elora of Amaranthine: One of the few surviving members of the Nightelves. Proved herself skilled in night raids and assassinations. Her hatred of the Orlesians is near legendary.
    Grants 2 action, flat bonus of 10 to all intrigue actions she takes, bonus of 15 to assassination

Choose a Steward:
  1. Lord Teoric: Son of the displaced Bann of West Hill. He helped his family to live by starting his own business, which prospered beyond imagination. He helped your cause by providing resources and money to help field more men. Celebrated for his strong business acumen by his family and friends.
    Grants 2 actions, bonus of 15 to all stewardship action he takes, bonus of 20 to actions involving businesses

  2. Leonas Bryland: Son of the Arl of South Reach and son of an Orlesian mother. His mothers family is extremely rich and insisted on having him trained rigorously in the field of finance.
    Grants 2 action, bonus of 15 to all stewardship action he takes, bonus of 20 to all trade related actions

  3. Master Aldhelm: The venerated head of the merchant crafthouse in Denerim. Has connection to many merchants and knows how to get everything and from where.
    Grants 2 action , bonus of 15 to all stewardship action he takes, bonus of 25 to all crafthouse related actions

Choose a court chaplain or court mage:
  1. Mother Bronach: The grand cleric of Ferelden is not your best friend or closest ally, but she is the highest member of the chantry in your country and it is kind of expected for her to be one of your advisers.
    Grants 2 action, flat bonus of 20 to all piety action she takes, bonus of 30 to all actions involving the chantry in Ferelden, bonus of 25 to all action involving chantry business outside Ferelden

  2. Wilhelm: He was the magical adviser of Arl Guerrin till his death. Throughout the rebellion he helped you with his advice and magical talents. You still have use for both.
    Grants 2 action, flat bonus of 20 to all piety action, malus on action involving chantry members or templars by 15 making it only 5, bonus of 25 to all action related to the circle or mages

  3. Mother Ailis: She helped you in your time of need and proved herself more than loyal. Her connections to chantry member are not as far-reaching as the ones of the grand cleric, but she knows many local sisters and brothers.
    Grants 2 action, flat bonus of 15, bonus of 20 to all action involving chantry member in Ferelden, bonus of 25 for all action involving brother and sisters of the chantry in Ferelden

Choose court scholar/ court mage:
  1. Wilhelm: As a member of the circle he enjoyed having one of the best education Thedas has to offer. Skilled and well-read in arcane matters, he is somewhat lacking in other subjects.
    Grants 2 actions, flat bonus of 10 to all learning action he does, bonus of 20 to all action involving arcane matter

  2. Master Edwin: Head of the smith crafthouse and one of the best smiths of Ferelden. While not as well-read or knowledgeable as normal scholars he is far more skilled in practical matters.
    Grants 2 actions, flat bonus of 10 to all learning action he does, bonus of 15 to practical problems, bonus of 25 to all smith actions

  3. Mother Ailis: A chantry education is quite broad and most of the scholarly work is done by brothers or sisters. Mother Ailis is knowledgeable in Ferelden legends and folklore. Her interest encompasses even the barbarian cousins of your people the Chasind and Avvar.
    Grants 2 action, flat bonus of 10 to all learning action she does, bonus of 15 to chantry, Ferelden folklore and legends research
 
If possible I would avoid to disband the nightelves they were realy efficients and it could be a way to ameliorate there rights by military service.
 
Well, shit. I was thinking of running a Ferelden CK2 Quest in the future as well, albeit also based on Meiou and Taxes, with a heavily revamped attributes/action system, and the initial PC being a crowned male Cousland. Would that be trampling on this quest if I were to start that up in the future if this quest is still running by then?
 
Kalrotix said:
If possible I would avoid to disband the nightelves they were realy efficients and it could be a way to ameliorate there rights by military service.
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They were wiped out saving the main characters from an ambush before the quest started. There exist only like a handful of survivors.

Ghostdevil said:
Cause Alistair is an badass character and he needs to be born? :p
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Rowan would need to die. Then Maric would need to go on the adventure with the Grey Wardens and make sweet sweet love to Fiona...it is possible but considering her stats I would think you would want keep Rowan alive. Adultery never goes well, which would be the other option, but hey if you want to cheat on your heroine Fereldan queen with an elven mage...more power to you I guess ^^

HanShot1st said:
Should Maric marry Rowan, or should we let her and Loghain marry considering what we know of canon?
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...Maric and Rowan have been engaged since their teens. This marriage is set in stone and considering how Loghain and Rowan felt about it, there is nothing to be done. In the books it is made quite clear that Rowan was in love with Maric, while he loved Katriel and Loghain loved Rowan. In my mind Loghain always came across as a rebound for Rowan , nothing more. Their reactions to Katriel´s betrayal made that clear. Rowan hoped Maric would "choose" her after he would be told about it instead of being his rebound.

gutza1 said:
Well, shit. I was thinking of running a Ferelden CK2 Quest in the future as well, albeit also based on Meiou and Taxes, with a heavily revamped attributes/action system, and the initial PC being a crowned male Cousland. Would that be trampling on this quest if I were to start that up in the future if this quest is still running by then?
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I see no reason why. The more DA quests there are the better in my mind.
 
Erzherzog_Karl said:
...Maric and Rowan have been engaged since their teens. This marriage is set in stone and considering how Loghain and Rowan felt about it, there is nothing to be done. In the books it is made quite clear that Rowan was in love with Maric, while he loved Katriel and Loghain loved Rowan. In my mind Loghain always came across as a rebound for Rowan , nothing more. Their reactions to Katriel´s betrayal made that clear. Rowan hoped Maric would "choose" her after he would be told about it instead of being his rebound.
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Damn thats harsh. At least the... hmm i guess wife... loves us, even if she isn't our PC's waifu.
 
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I think we will need to invest a few actions repairing our relationship with both Rowan and Logain so we don't get any trouble.

Edit: And properly educate our future kids so they don't think a Blight is "Glorious"
 
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Yea relationship problems defines the Three's whole THING.
Love Triangles do that.
 
[] Loghain Mac Tir: He is recognized as the greatest military mind Ferelden has right now. The best commander you have and more than capable of training new units for the Royal Army like the example of the Nightelves shows.
Grants 2 actions , flat bonus of 25 to all martial actions he takes, bonus of 30 to all actions involving Fereldans

[] Bryce Cousland: Last living scion of the mighty Cousland family. He is well liked by the other nobles and has shown remarkable diplomatic skill.
Grants 2 action, flat bonus of 20 to all diplomatic action he takes, flat bonus of 25 to actions in Ferelden

[]Elora of Amaranthine: One of the few surviving members of the Nightelves. Proved herself skilled in night raids and assassinations. Her hatred of the Orlesians is near legendary.
Grants 2 action, flat bonus of 10 to all intrigue actions she takes, bonus of 15 to assassination

[]Lord Teoric: Son of the displaced Bann of West Hill. He helped his family to live by starting his own business, which prospered beyond imagination. He helped your cause by providing resources and money to help field more men. Celebrated for his strong business acumen by his family and friends.
Grants 2 actions, bonus of 15 to all stewardship action he takes, bonus of 20 to actions involving businesses

[] Mother Ailis: She helped you in your time of need and proved herself more than loyal. Her connections to chantry member are not as far-reaching as the ones of the grand cleric, but she knows many local sisters and brothers.
Grants 2 action, flat bonus of 15, bonus of 20 to all action involving chantry member in Ferelden, bonus of 25 for all action involving brother and sisters of the chantry in Ferelden

[] Wilhelm: As a member of the circle he enjoyed having one of the best education Thedas has to offer. Skilled and well-read in arcane matters, he is somewhat lacking in other subjects.
Grants 2 actions, flat bonus of 10 to all learning action he does, bonus of 20 to all action involving arcane matter


This is my ideal council, anyone disagree?
 
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Kufufu said:
[X] Loghain Mac Tir: He is recognized as the greatest military mind Ferelden has right now. The best commander you have and more than capable of training new units for the Royal Army like the example of the Nightelves shows.
Grants 2 actions , flat bonus of 25 to all martial actions he takes, bonus of 30 to all actions involving Fereldans

[X] Bryce Cousland: Last living scion of the mighty Cousland family. He is well liked by the other nobles and has shown remarkable diplomatic skill.
Grants 2 action, flat bonus of 20 to all diplomatic action he takes, flat bonus of 25 to actions in Ferelden

[X]Elora of Amaranthine: One of the few surviving members of the Nightelves. Proved herself skilled in night raids and assassinations. Her hatred of the Orlesians is near legendary.
Grants 2 action, flat bonus of 10 to all intrigue actions she takes, bonus of 15 to assassination

[X]Lord Teoric: Son of the displaced Bann of West Hill. He helped his family to live by starting his own business, which prospered beyond imagination. He helped your cause by providing resources and money to help field more men. Celebrated for his strong business acumen by his family and friends.
Grants 2 actions, bonus of 15 to all stewardship action he takes, bonus of 20 to actions involving businesses

[X] Mother Ailis: She helped you in your time of need and proved herself more than loyal. Her connections to chantry member are not as far-reaching as the ones of the grand cleric, but she knows many local sisters and brothers.
Grants 2 action, flat bonus of 15, bonus of 20 to all action involving chantry member in Ferelden, bonus of 25 for all action involving brother and sisters of the chantry in Ferelden

[X] Wilhelm: As a member of the circle he enjoyed having one of the best education Thedas has to offer. Skilled and well-read in arcane matters, he is somewhat lacking in other subjects.
Grants 2 actions, flat bonus of 10 to all learning action he does, bonus of 20 to all action involving arcane matter


This is my ideal council, anyone disagree?
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Erzherzog_Karl said:
So this is not a vote.
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Kalrotix said:
I thought that a one moment they regained some of their forces during the war but at the end they were send in their ghettos.
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"Loghain and the elves ran into the hills in order to intercept the chevalier charge. Peppering the knights with arrows forced them to stop and deal with the archers instead of finishing their flanking maneuver. Lightly armored elves were no match for chevaliers, however, and more than half of them were slaughtered as the Orlesians overran their position."
"The casualties were high, but both the wounded Loghain and the surviving Night Elves were saved before Arl Rendorn finally called for the retreat."
This was before Gwaren, West Hill and the second Battle of Gwaren or River Dane. Like I said I have some survivors but not enough for a company.
 
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