A Journey of Two, a Pokemon Story
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Sir LagsAlot
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Full Stall, and Look at the Time are bait given to us I have to imagine because Violet is a novice trainer. As Ghost types are immune to normal type moves so even with Daemon's softer typing system Self Destruct and Echoed Voice won't really do anything unless these Gastly are fodder plus Bug type moves such as Bug Bite do massively reduced damage as well.
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Pretty much this. This is one of those situations where Violet's inexperience as a trainer is coming into play. Mostly due to ghosts being rather rare in Kanto outside of the tower resulting in her not knowing as much about them as normal.
Edit: That being said, the Tower is a very hard challenge as you are now. Hence why I was willing to have options that aren't good overall. Just due to the fact that reaching the top of the tower is very, very unlikely as your Pokemon are now.
Sir LagsAlot
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[X] A Special Beatdown
Repeat Heals is also a bait as it leaves Dratini to fight a 2 v 1 under what amounts of normal conditions meaning if we won that fight it'd be purely based on stack checking our opponents well using poor tactics. Instead, we should aim to slow the high-Speed Gastlies down so that we can hit them with our moves reliably before attempting to remove the Curse user from the table as they'll immediately bring themselves down to half HP making them an easy target to get blasted at which point we can swap our Cursed Pokemon out in favor of Chansey who is practically immune to any damage from the Gastlies, and can heal our surviving Pokemon turning this into an effective 1 v 1 with super leftovers.
Send Out: Dratini, Magnemite
Dratini: Thunder Wave followed by Twister
Magnemite: Electro Ball Gastly #1 until it faints
Conditional: Replace whoever is cursed once they are about to faint or if Gastly #1 has been knocked out with Chansey who will use Life Dew repeatedly
Dratini: Thunder Wave followed by Twister
Magnemite: Electro Ball Gastly #1 until it faints
Conditional: Replace whoever is cursed once they are about to faint or if Gastly #1 has been knocked out with Chansey who will use Life Dew repeatedly
Repeat Heals is also a bait as it leaves Dratini to fight a 2 v 1 under what amounts of normal conditions meaning if we won that fight it'd be purely based on stack checking our opponents well using poor tactics. Instead, we should aim to slow the high-Speed Gastlies down so that we can hit them with our moves reliably before attempting to remove the Curse user from the table as they'll immediately bring themselves down to half HP making them an easy target to get blasted at which point we can swap our Cursed Pokemon out in favor of Chansey who is practically immune to any damage from the Gastlies, and can heal our surviving Pokemon turning this into an effective 1 v 1 with super leftovers.
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[X] A Special Beatdown
Sir LagsAlot
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I swapped Magnemite to Electro Ball as it has the same amount of damage as Thunder Shock to begin with but once Dratini paralyzes the opposing Gastlies it'll do fifty percent more damage than Thunder Shock due to Magnemite at that point outspeeding the Gastlies slightly. This is relevant even within the first turn as Dratini outspeeds Magnemite so it should go first meaning both Gastlies will be paralyzed before Magnemite launches his first Electro Ball.
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Alright, I'll be calling the vote here. As it is, the fight started off very well thanks to a crit from Magnemite. Although Dratini missing Thunder Wave hurt. That and sadly due to Mean Look, it meant that sadly Dratini was stuck and fainted. Although immediately afterwards Magnemite took out the second Gastly.
But you did do quite a bit better than Willow., who saw both of her Pokemon faint due to Eevee being overspecialized into Normal type attacks which did not work out for her.
But you did do quite a bit better than Willow., who saw both of her Pokemon faint due to Eevee being overspecialized into Normal type attacks which did not work out for her.
Round 1 Dratini: Dratini used Thunder Wave on the Gastlies (DC25/30: 2). Both Gastlies avoided the attack!
Round 1 Gastly 2: Gastly used Mean Look on Dratini (DC25: 49). Dratini cannot switch out!
Round 1 Gastly 1: Gastly used Curse on Dratini (DC1: 24). Dratini was cursed! Gastly loses 50% of its HP (50%)
Round 1 Magnemite: Magnemite used Electro Ball on Gastly 1 (DC25: 96). A Critical Hit! Gastly 1 loses 50% of its HP (0%)
Round 2 Dratini: Dratini used Twister on Gastly 2 (DC20: 56). Gastly 2 loses 30% of its HP (70%). Dratini loses 25% of its HP from Curse (25%). Dratini shed its skin!
Round 2 Gastly 2: Gastly used Payback on Dratini (DC25: 40). Dratini loses 8% of its HP (17%).
Round 2 Magnemite: Magnemite used Electro Ball on Gastly 2 (DC30: 29). Gastly 2 avoided the attack!
Round 2: Dratini is switched out!
Round 3 Gastly 2: Gastly used Payback on Magnemite (DC1: 58). Magnemite loses 5% of its HP (95%).
Round 3 Magnemite: Magnemite used Electro Ball on Gastly 2 (DC30: 51). Gastly 2 loses 40% of its HP (30%).
Round 4 Gastly 2: Gastly used Payback on Magnemite (DC1: 58). Magnemite loses 5% of its HP (95%).
Round 4 Magnemite: Magnemite used Electro Ball on Gastly 2 (DC30: 75). Gastly 2 loses 40% of its HP (0%). Gastly 2 fainted!
Round 1 Gastly 2: Gastly used Mean Look on Dratini (DC25: 49). Dratini cannot switch out!
Round 1 Gastly 1: Gastly used Curse on Dratini (DC1: 24). Dratini was cursed! Gastly loses 50% of its HP (50%)
Round 1 Magnemite: Magnemite used Electro Ball on Gastly 1 (DC25: 96). A Critical Hit! Gastly 1 loses 50% of its HP (0%)
Round 2 Dratini: Dratini used Twister on Gastly 2 (DC20: 56). Gastly 2 loses 30% of its HP (70%). Dratini loses 25% of its HP from Curse (25%). Dratini shed its skin!
Round 2 Gastly 2: Gastly used Payback on Dratini (DC25: 40). Dratini loses 8% of its HP (17%).
Round 2 Magnemite: Magnemite used Electro Ball on Gastly 2 (DC30: 29). Gastly 2 avoided the attack!
Round 2: Dratini is switched out!
Round 3 Gastly 2: Gastly used Payback on Magnemite (DC1: 58). Magnemite loses 5% of its HP (95%).
Round 3 Magnemite: Magnemite used Electro Ball on Gastly 2 (DC30: 51). Gastly 2 loses 40% of its HP (30%).
Round 4 Gastly 2: Gastly used Payback on Magnemite (DC1: 58). Magnemite loses 5% of its HP (95%).
Round 4 Magnemite: Magnemite used Electro Ball on Gastly 2 (DC30: 75). Gastly 2 loses 40% of its HP (0%). Gastly 2 fainted!
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Sir LagsAlot
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Mean Look is a status condition Daemon Hunter so Dratini's Shed Skin should have cleansed it as it was the first status to hit Dratini in the match. Unless Dratini held it until the end of the turn to also cleanse Curse at the same time intentionally I guess since Curse is also a status condition.
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...oops, I didn't realize Mean Look was a status condition like that. I've just edited the battle log to reflect Dratini using Shed Skin for that. And it looks like you'll be able to continue climbing.
Sir LagsAlot
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Hopefully after taking five to have Chansey heal up the team (mostly Dratini) with Life Dew.
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kmlweakmllwkme well, Willow sure is Willow
Eeee, I'm glad we didn't skip over Lavender Town, and eheheheh spooky scary skeleTower
Yeah but only so few trainers travel alongside their rival, so it works out. At least in theory, I guess the games only show us Solo Trainers.
I'm glad this one was picked, it's another challenge to Violet's skills and the readership's abilities to strategize
Eeeee, I like the battle frontier being canon, and canonizing the different regional branches.
I guess this means we can look forward to events at over battle tower facilities along our journey, or at the least trying to make a name for ourselves.
After finishing the Indigo Plateau challenge, we could stick around Kanto for a Gym Season to challenge the battle frontier facilities I suppose.
Congratulations to Tetsuya! Good chance we'll meet up with him and could swap off from traveling with Willow.
I think the writing throughout this update was very nicely done!
Willow facing difficult emotions that clash with her personality, and Violet being able to see this and engage with it as compassionately as she can while managing her own stress, I think it worked really well!
I feel like I really felt for both Violet and willow, and also felt immersed within the setting with how Willow looked at how to be a trainer based on how she engaged with in-universe media, and how Violet had a different perspective from likely watching the same stuff.
On Drifloon, huh, could've sworn I remembered Drifloon, well Drifblim, being encounterable on the route before Mt Silver, but apparently... not that's not a thing. huh.
IM GLAD THEY HUG. It's a really good tender moment for them.. and also it's adorable.
I like this summary of things rather than making us go through a gauntlet
Well fuck
Certainly a competent strategy for the mons being used, this works well!
Goodness! It's been a while now hasn't it?
Looking forward to the next update!
Kanto Week 16 Part 2 - The 5th Floor
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[X] A Special Beatdown
Send Out: Dratini, Magnemite
Dratini: Thunder Wave followed by Twister
Magnemite: Electro Ball Gastly #1 until it faints
Conditional: Replace whoever is cursed once they are about to faint or if Gastly #1 has been knocked out with Chansey who will use Life Dew repeatedly
Dratini: Thunder Wave followed by Twister
Magnemite: Electro Ball Gastly #1 until it faints
Conditional: Replace whoever is cursed once they are about to faint or if Gastly #1 has been knocked out with Chansey who will use Life Dew repeatedly
"Dratini, Thunder Wave!" Violet yelled as Dratini let out a wave of electricity. The sparks illuminated the ghostly atmosphere, adding to the ethereal atmosphere.
There was no corresponding order from the Channelers before her. Instead, there was a sense of purpose, before both Gastlies acted in unison. Rising in the air, the two Ghost-types threaded through gaps within the wave of Thunder before both Pokemon targeted Dratini.
One Gastly used Mean Look, a massive, intimidating display of sight that would have made any Pokemon certain they must fight until they either fainted or won. And then the second Gastly used Curse, visibly wobbling at the toll it took on them, yet Violet could see ethereal energies dance across Dratini's form, visibly sapping his vitality.
Then came Violet's second Pokemon, with a surge of energy she hadn't expected from Magnemite, the Magnet Pokemon spun, coating itself in electricity. Using Electro Ball, they slammed into the weakened Gastly that just cast Curse, forcing it downwards into the ground where the Gas Pokemon fainted.
"Magnemite, again!" Violet called out, as the remaining Gastly turned towards what was assumed to be the bigger threat, giving Dratini an opportunity to strike.
A Twister struck the Gastly from behind, causing it to cry out in pain and frustration. Just before it could decide on which Pokemon to attack, Dratini made the choice for them. Shaking loose his skin, the Mirage Pokemon threw aside the ethereal Curse and Mean Look, bringing him back to full form. Locked into a 2 vs 1, the fight was now all but settled. Even with Violet's next order.
"Dratini," Violet said softly, looking at Gastly and Magnemite who were staring each other down. "Return."
Replying with a neutral chirp, Dratini acquiesced, moving to Violet's side as Magnemite and Gastly continued their duel. Unfortunately for the Gas Pokemon, it ended as expected. Despite managing to avoid the first of Magnemite's Electro Balls, Gastly simply lacked a move that could get through the Magnet Pokemon's steel frame. The next exchange sealed their fate, with Magnemite accepting the Payback and replying with an Electro Ball that could not be dodged.
Declared the victor, Violet sighed in relief. Turning towards Willow's fight, the shy girl was surprised to see her rival was facing a Gastly and Haunter pair. At which point the first Gastly evolved, sealing Willow's fate as Eevee and Staryu fainted after a few more exchanges. After a brief conversation, where Violet initially planned to join Willow on a trip to the Pokecenter, the shy girl was convinced to try and climb the tower some more.
"Besides," Willow said, "You have a Chansey."
A few applications of Life Dew proved that she did have a Chansey. At which point Violet climbed to the sixth floor. Facing a brutal gauntlet of four Gastlies back to back, each of whom used Curse, Mean Look, then Hypnosis, she managed to defeat two with Dratini before recalling him when the third Gastly emerged. At which point Pineco managed to take down the third using Bug Bite, leaving the last one to Magnemite who managed it admirably.
Now on the seventh and last floor, Violet stared down the Marowak that the Channeler opened with. "This doesn't look good.*
*Dratini learned Agility at D++*
*Dratini learned Slam at D++*
*Dratini improves Speed to C+*
*Dratini improves Twister to B--*
*Magnemite learned Gyro Ball at D++*
*Magnemite learned Spark at D++*
*Pineco learned Take Down at D++*
*Pineco learned Rapid Spin at C-*
*Pineco improved Protect to B--*
*Pineco improved Bug Bite to C*
Health: B
Stamina: B+
Attack: B++
Defense: B+
Special Attack: E++
Special Defense: C+
Speed: D--
Evasion: D--
Moves
False Swipe: D++
Growl: D++
Mud-Slap: D++
Tail Whip: D++
Headbutt: B
Retaliate: C+
Fling: D++
Stomping Tantrum: C+
Bone Rush: D++
Perish Song: C++
Protect: C+
Violet's Thoughts: …The strongest Pokemon you've faced, Marowak is undoubtedly the strongest Pokemon the Channeller has. Extremely tanky with the combination of Perish Song and Protect he is able to sweep teams with ease. And there are three Pokemon after him.
Stamina: B+
Attack: B++
Defense: B+
Special Attack: E++
Special Defense: C+
Speed: D--
Evasion: D--
Moves
False Swipe: D++
Growl: D++
Mud-Slap: D++
Tail Whip: D++
Headbutt: B
Retaliate: C+
Fling: D++
Stomping Tantrum: C+
Bone Rush: D++
Perish Song: C++
Protect: C+
Violet's Thoughts: …The strongest Pokemon you've faced, Marowak is undoubtedly the strongest Pokemon the Channeller has. Extremely tanky with the combination of Perish Song and Protect he is able to sweep teams with ease. And there are three Pokemon after him.
Marowak will start with Perish Song then use a combination of Protect and Headbutt as needed. If he sees an opportunity for Stomping Tantrum, he will use it.
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Send out: Pineco
Pineco: Self Destruct
Pineco: Self Destruct
Send out: Dratini
Dratini: Dragon Tail then use whatever Thunder Wave and Twister on the Haunter that emerges.
Dratini: Dragon Tail then use whatever Thunder Wave and Twister on the Haunter that emerges.
Send out: Dratini
Dratini: Water Gun Repeatedly, Switch with Pineco when about to faint then send him back out again
Dratini: Water Gun Repeatedly, Switch with Pineco when about to faint then send him back out again
Round 1 Dratini: Dratini used Thunder Wave on the Gastlies (DC25/30: 2). Both Gastlies avoided the attack!
Round 1 Gastly 2: Gastly used Mean Look on Dratini (DC25: 49). Dratini cannot switch out!
Round 1 Gastly 1: Gastly used Curse on Dratini (DC1: 24). Dratini was cursed! Gastly loses 50% of its HP (50%)
Round 1 Magnemite: Magnemite used Electro Ball on Gastly 1 (DC25: 96). A Critical Hit! Gastly 1 loses 50% of its HP (0%)
Round 2 Dratini: Dratini used Twister on Gastly 2 (DC20: 56). Gastly 2 loses 30% of its HP (70%). Dratini loses 25% of its HP from Curse (25%). Dratini shed its skin!
Round 2 Gastly 2: Gastly used Payback on Dratini (DC25: 40). Dratini loses 8% of its HP (17%).
Round 2 Magnemite: Magnemite used Electro Ball on Gastly 2 (DC30: 29). Gastly 2 avoided the attack!
Round 2: Dratini is switched out!
Round 3 Gastly 2: Gastly used Payback on Magnemite (DC1: 58). Magnemite loses 5% of its HP (95%).
Round 3 Magnemite: Magnemite used Electro Ball on Gastly 2 (DC30: 51). Gastly 2 loses 40% of its HP (30%).
Round 4 Gastly 2: Gastly used Payback on Magnemite (DC1: 58). Magnemite loses 10% of its HP (85%).
Round 4 Magnemite: Magnemite used Electro Ball on Gastly 2 (DC30: 75). Gastly 2 loses 40% of its HP (0%). Gastly 2 fainted!
Round 1 Gastly 2: Gastly used Mean Look on Dratini (DC25: 49). Dratini cannot switch out!
Round 1 Gastly 1: Gastly used Curse on Dratini (DC1: 24). Dratini was cursed! Gastly loses 50% of its HP (50%)
Round 1 Magnemite: Magnemite used Electro Ball on Gastly 1 (DC25: 96). A Critical Hit! Gastly 1 loses 50% of its HP (0%)
Round 2 Dratini: Dratini used Twister on Gastly 2 (DC20: 56). Gastly 2 loses 30% of its HP (70%). Dratini loses 25% of its HP from Curse (25%). Dratini shed its skin!
Round 2 Gastly 2: Gastly used Payback on Dratini (DC25: 40). Dratini loses 8% of its HP (17%).
Round 2 Magnemite: Magnemite used Electro Ball on Gastly 2 (DC30: 29). Gastly 2 avoided the attack!
Round 2: Dratini is switched out!
Round 3 Gastly 2: Gastly used Payback on Magnemite (DC1: 58). Magnemite loses 5% of its HP (95%).
Round 3 Magnemite: Magnemite used Electro Ball on Gastly 2 (DC30: 51). Gastly 2 loses 40% of its HP (30%).
Round 4 Gastly 2: Gastly used Payback on Magnemite (DC1: 58). Magnemite loses 10% of its HP (85%).
Round 4 Magnemite: Magnemite used Electro Ball on Gastly 2 (DC30: 75). Gastly 2 loses 40% of its HP (0%). Gastly 2 fainted!
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Marowak is a rather strong Pokemon so I'd agree with this overall. But Protect does throw a wrench into play.
We don't have to use self destruct immediately. We could try to bait Protect, and then use self destruct. Maybe we could do that thing where we say the first part of self destruct and then give out an entirely different order, something like "self bug bite."
[X] Bait and Switch
Send out: Pineco
Pineco: Bug Bite
Pineco: Pretend to order Pineco to use self destruct, but then switch to Bug Bite
Pineco: Self destruct
Pineco: Self destruct if Marowak protected the previous turn, if not then use Bug Bite
Pineco: Bug Bite
Pineco: Pretend to order Pineco to use self destruct, but then switch to Bug Bite
Pineco: Self destruct
Pineco: Self destruct if Marowak protected the previous turn, if not then use Bug Bite
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Not sure, but even if it goes boom I think it's worth a shot. The thing I'm concerned with I'd Rather Not is that if the Channeler sees us lead with Pineco, then they might preemptively protect on the first turn. For my plan there is also always the chance that the second or third and so on protect in a row will succeed or they see through the bait, but there is not much we can do about that former and for the latter, that's a risk for any trap and I think that risk is preferable to the risk of a first turn protect.
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I will say that Pineco's other skill does help out a lot for this. Watchful is effectively built for the write-in.
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Ah, for that you'd be relying a good bit on Pineco being able to read what you're thinking. So it'd be reliant on Pineco's Watchful trait being good enough for it.
Sir LagsAlot
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Bug Bite is a physical move so it scales off the same stat as Tackle plus it has a higher base power, and gets a STAB boost so it's always going to do more damage. Also, I'd point out that one Marowak is faster than Pineco, and the former doesn't have any negative priority moves so you're not getting any moves off after the first self-destruct because Marowak will just knock Pineco out. And, two you can mitigate the damage of Self Destruct severely with this system with its dodging and deflections which when combined with Marowak's high physical bulk I'd bet actually gives it a high chance of surviving your plan as it is just in a notably wounded state.
Therefore I'd highly suggest instead that we lead with Chansey rather than Pineco as Chansey is nigh useless against the Haunter that will come after this so we might as well get some use out of it this fight. And, that use can come in the form of Charm spam to start the fight off with as Marowak has solely physical moves so if we can get it down to -4 or -6 attack it's pretty much useless outside of using Perish Song to force swaps.
With its natural bulk even if it has a low defense stat Chansey should be able to tank at least two hits to do this, and if it can tank more than that without fainting to the damage or Perish Song she can use Tail Whip or Sweet Kiss before swapping out to hamper the Marowak even further. After that, either Dratini or Pineco should be able to win the fight but considering Dratini will be useful in the fight against the upcoming Haunter well Pineco should not we should be using Pineco.
And, well Perish Song would be annoying in this situation I'd note that all it's doing at this point is forcing us to swap our Pokemon to dodge its effect into a Marowak that's dealing next to no damage anyway, especially with how physically bulky our team is. So, we can easily perform a rotation using Pineco, and Magnemite at that point to avoid losing Dratini's Shed Skin to Perish Song where Pineco will just spam Bug Bite until Perish Song is about to knock it out at which point it swaps to Magnemite to dispel the effects of Perish Song who will only take like 1% health chip damage, and then swaps right back to Pineco spamming Bug Bite.
You know it's a damn shame that Dratini doesn't know any setup moves in this situation because if it did it could set up on this Marowak before one-shotting the rest of the opposing team.
TLDR: Chansey can debuff this thing until Pineco can beat it normally with relative ease without requiring anyone to faint, and Perish Song can be dispelled with swaps to allow for this.
[X] Chipping Away
Send Out: Chansey
Chansey: Use Charm, then Sweet Kiss, and lastly three Tail Whips until she's about to faint or has finished stacking all of them. Using Life Dew as necessary if it'll keep her in the fight longer to apply more debuffs. She is to swap with Pineco, and then come back out if she still has the HP as well as stamina to apply more debuffs but would faint to Perish Song.
Send Out: Pineco
Pineco: Use Bug Bite unless she would faint to Perish Song at which point she should swap with Chansey if the latter can still take hits from Marowak or if Chansey can not take a hit she should swap with Magnemite. Regardless, of who she swaps with Pineco should come back out to continue using Bug Bite against Marowak, and should repeat this process unless she would faint.
Send Out: Dratini
Dratini: If Pineco would faint Dratini should be sent out to use Water Gun, and should swap with Magnemite as needed to avoid Perish Song before returning to the field.
Chansey: Use Charm, then Sweet Kiss, and lastly three Tail Whips until she's about to faint or has finished stacking all of them. Using Life Dew as necessary if it'll keep her in the fight longer to apply more debuffs. She is to swap with Pineco, and then come back out if she still has the HP as well as stamina to apply more debuffs but would faint to Perish Song.
Send Out: Pineco
Pineco: Use Bug Bite unless she would faint to Perish Song at which point she should swap with Chansey if the latter can still take hits from Marowak or if Chansey can not take a hit she should swap with Magnemite. Regardless, of who she swaps with Pineco should come back out to continue using Bug Bite against Marowak, and should repeat this process unless she would faint.
Send Out: Dratini
Dratini: If Pineco would faint Dratini should be sent out to use Water Gun, and should swap with Magnemite as needed to avoid Perish Song before returning to the field.
I thought about stacking Thunder Wave as well on top of all this but -6 Attack, -6 Defense, and Confused seem like enough status effects to ruin Marowak's day as is. Now let's just hope that Daemon Hunter gives us an interrupt to use to change our plans if Marowak is swapped out for Haunter at some point, and Haunter stays in rather than just being used to avoid Marowak fainting to Perish Song because if he doesn't we auto-lose pretty much no matter what plan wins.
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