A Hive for The Galaxy (Sci-Fi CK2-style Quest)

OK, so we we can save ~800 by axing the military "gifts", and I'm betting that we can shave at least 1/2 off of the 1300 spent on "Palace Fees etc." without pissing anyone off too much. That'll save us 1450, which is a little more than 1/2 our debt accumulation.

We will however need some other things in the long term, if we are to get rid of this problem. One thing to do might be to restructure our debt. In this case I propose that we make an agreement with Sol and associates that they will give us a bunch of low-interest loans say 2.25%. We then use that money to pay down the Iashec debt. In exchange we sign onto some of the more important galactic treaties, like that slave one, and probably make a few other concessions. This would half our debt repayment, saving us 850/turn if we can exchange the entirety of the debt.

This puts total savings at up to 2300/turn, which is basically the entirety of our debt accumulation. Given that Sol has given us a no-interest loan before, this seems likely enough. And although it will publicly align us with Sol and friends, it doesn't actually break any treaties, and is more likely to let us avoid being flattened.

EDIT: also, if we can decommission the obsolete tanks, we can save another 300ish

Actually, 500. You get 250 up-front, but each turn not spending money keeping them in "fighting form" means that you have 500 more that can go anywhere...within the Military Budget. At the moment you actually have three completely separate budgets that aren't allowed to touch no matter what in theory. Which is as stupid as you think it is. But yeah, that 500 saved could go towards further research/spending, of course, or towards trying to reduce the amount loaned to you by Iashec for 'Military development' each turn.
 
Oh, Jesus.

We govern a banana republic.

Thoughts:

Hazitean, our new sorta, kinda, military advisor. Insane martial and apparently not completely there.

Our fleet action was a success and gave us an positive rapport with the military, as did the reconcilliation action.
It is an unstable situation, but it gave us time.

Diplomacy was not a resounding success, except the diplomats.
We should now be able to 'purge' our diplomatic corps of more corrupt or disloyal elements and still have access to the expertise of the rest.

On the treaties, I believe it was the right decision tokeep them, for the moment. I am not eager for a war or 'pirate' attacks on us while we are not ready. I agree with @Ginger Maniac that we should bring our military in order and at the same time conduct secret diplomacy with Sol etc. ala Kissinger and Mao or Carter and Sadat.

Stewardship went well, implementing consumerprotection should not be incredibly difficult, is higly visible and has tangible benefits for us long term as well.

And the Budget reinforces that we are a banana republic, including money for 'gifts', shadow economy and... foreign aido_O.

Great we have an intrigue advisor, our personal M, after we freed him out of prison.

And our nemesis, our Blowfeld, works with the Iashec and we have a lead. If I had to guess we will meet them to play Bakkara or Poker.

Learning went excellent and a bonus to education is good as well.

So some good things, some bad things and some really ugly things.
 
Debt Servicing: 1700, mainly to the Iashec, currently interest is 4.5% and you are paying back at a rate of 5% per turn, just ahead of interest...but not, it seems, ahead of debt accumulation. Every two turns this will be recalculated.
Fuck
Debt (total): Iashec Debt 29,000

Debt to various Iashec-aligned human worlds: 3,000

Debt to Stendar: 1,000

Debt to the Hexamari Heretics: 1000

Debt (at 0% interest and flexible repayment) to Sol (basically a 'please spend this on not opressing your people, thanks' loan):1,500


Total meaningful debt: 34,000

Current debt accumulation per year: 2500ish Wealth*
Fuck

We owe more money than our whole GDP
 
It seems to me the fastest way to reduce our building debt is to pay off Stendar and Hexamari Heretics ASAP. Taking 1000 from our free budget next turn to knock one of those out would be beneficial I think. Admittedly, it might not do much in the short term, but it gets rid of that interest we would have to pay on those debts.
 
Well fuck.
Alright disaster control:

Transparency is the key. Make a Diplomatic memo to every decent interstellar power that we are still sorting out the bullshit and it was common knowledge that we had signed the anti-slavery and other non-evil treaties even when it wasn't true.
Break all treaties and change our national name to distance ourselves from the previous regime
Pay off the debts except for the Iashek and Sol (it's 0 interest and I doubt they'll complain about the timescale)
ask Sol for a loan of 31,000 Wealth at the same interest rate the Iashek is currently.
Payback the Iashek with said loan

We have begun realigning ourselves away from the Iashek in a way that doesn't provide much Casus Belii
 
They weren't in the Repatriation Treaty, designed to hit the slave (and clone-slave) trade at its core, sending slaves back by species to their homeworlds when rescued, instead of tying them up in legal arguments.
Ships had come and gone as part of 'anti-slavery patrols' only to have, apparently, gone nowhere at all, or to meet with the Iashec.
And they owed huge amounts of money to Iashec and other powers, had guaranteed raising a large fleet in the case of war under any circumstances, whether the Iashec were aggressors or on the defensive, the various powers owned portions and buildings on the planet itself, where they made money hand-over-fist with tax-free treaties.

Okay, treaty wise we have a few issues:
1) We aren't in several important treaties. This is easily resolved by signing those treaties next turn. It will, no doubt, be expensive
2) The slave trade is largely covert and off the books. If nothing else we can slam it with tax evasion and smuggling charges.
3) We have Iashec owned enclaves on the planet where they operate tax free. Buying that land back would be very complicated and expensive no doubt. We can try to tax traffic in and out of those areas heavily, to make back the money.
4) We're guaranteed to fight for them. This is the biggest problem, and as far as I can tell, the only way out is if we can prove THEY attacked us.
5) The debts are hitting us with ridiculous interest rates that keep compounding. We need to restructure our debts, but I doubt Sol would front the money to pay off the Iashec, so we can't do them all.

And Vorzhan gets back only sporadic word for the next month or two, before hearing word of successful contact, most of the colonies pledging their loyalty and...in Vash System, a dozen ships appeared out of Hyperspace and were fought off by the force there. Their make wasn't on record, but they seemed somewhere between military and pirates in their technology, and while--with luck and apparently some skill--none of your ships is destroyed (though all of theirs managed to escape back into Hyperspace, albeit some badly crippled), several are hurt badly enough by missiles that they are sent back, in no state to patrol.
The rest of the conversation goes well after that splendid start, but though quite intelligent, Bissen has no idea what to make of the ships, though they caught data of it. Vorzhan expresses bafflement themselves. Does so and then goes back and compares it to what data they'd gotten weeks before from rescuing their Commander. The same…? They have to run it by Hazitean, but that's what it seems like.
Ships appeared overhead, dozens and dozens of them, many of them badly scarred from what the agents could see, and they headed down to the surface. They'd had to break early, but they'd made sure to take the most important and loyal prisoners with them as they escaped into the wilds. The rest and the prison-guards apparently boarded the ships, which hung there for a while, firing down shots, including plasma-rounds against all logic and decency, as the group desperately skittered from out abandoned hab to another, low on oxygen in a harsh landscape, but able to travel underground.
Asurin was a Iashec world, even called a 'pleasure world' in the brochures, where the rich went to enjoy all of the comforts that a population of 'workers' and the like could provide.
Fortunately, it looks like the whole mess is backed by Iashec military, if we can track down our Bond villain and identify the ships that had:
1) Attacked our colonies.
2) Raided our prison worlds to rescue the guards.
3) Harboring a state criminal.

We can penalize them back.




Name: Hazitean
Gender: Female
Species: Xvorzit
Age: Mid-thirties
Position: Kinda-sorta-but not quite a Martial Advisor


Stats:


Martial: 35
Diplomacy: 10
Stewardship: 19
Intrigue: 20
Learning: 12


Traits:
Hunter, Mentally Unstable, Brave, Paranoid, Cynical, Cruel, Ruthless, Just, Chemically Dependent, Xvorzit. Military Genius
We have an insane, cruel, ruthless and paranoid military genius.
Useful like a missile.
Name: Kikkizit
Gender: Either
Species: Xvorzit
Age: 40
Position: Advisor on Education and Sciences to the Leader of Gazinitah


Stats:

Martial: 12
Diplomacy: 28
Stewardship: 20
Intrigue: 11
Learning: 27


Traits: Temperate, Humble, Just, Gregarious, Advisor-Advised, Bazkhiti, Voice of a Revolution, Professor, Workers Association
Our science advisor is fantastic however, not a super genius, but he's very influential and essential in calming the people.
Break all treaties and change our national name to distance ourselves from the previous regime
Breaking all treaties means we need to pay reparations and penalties for those treaties or it's war with a superior power. We need to pay through the debts BEFORE we can break the standing treaties. Right now they're using 'pirate' actions to keep us too destitute to buy our way out of the treaties, but if we break them we'd be looking at their full military might.

Or we can use intrigue and get THEM to violate those treaties. Hmmm...I'm pretty sure the slavers are the ones who did that attack, so if we can prove it we can quite justifiably call the treaties off without reparations(and they'd wardec on us anyway).

We need massive diplomatic powers to get enough polities on our side before we can set off the bomb of the treaties and hope to hell the Iashec don't start a war before we finish unraveling the mess.

We also need the dosh somehow to revamp our fleet so that we can at least afford a defensive war with the Iashec + under table dealings with Sol to back us up in that fight.
 
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Turn One News
A/N: I'm going to try something new here. There will be votes in the news session! Not huge ones, but they might effect some options next turn, and they do have consequences.


Turn One News

Economy Roll: 1d100+10 (Lenient policies)+5 (Figure out Stewardship Budget)+5 (Military Budget known)-5 (What's Our Black Budget)+5 (Colony connections anticipated to be reopened)-5 (Taxed like sin)+5 (Optimism)-5 (No Stewardship Advisor)+11 (Stewardship)=1d100+31=87, above average.


Local


Fundamentals of the Economy?: Despite the problems, the economy chugs along. Not entirely, the factories of some places are closed, still, but more than expected people return to their daily lives, hug their kids, eat their grubs or fowl or whatever they wish, and the economy grows. Hope, perhaps, is there, and the policies of Vorzhan, whose very title hasn't been worked out, but certainly not King, seem to be working. There are reports of their discussion with important figures, their reconciliation, the way--in the judicial muddle of reform--the caste restrictions aren't being held to as well, and so despite the heavy taxes coming in on things like purchases, risk-taking spreads. Not all of it wise, some of the investments don't pay off in trade, but the upswing generates more money moving back and forth, and against all expectation, bouyed by the relatively modest aims of the revolution thus far--though still weary--the economic elites don't run, don't attempt to flee the planet or try to sabotage the economy. (+100 Wealth from increased taxes and public faith in your government, allowing you to inflate the currency a bit with less economic worries, per turn starting next turn.)


A People Unleashed: Music, movies, games, entire festivals dedicated to things that wouldn't see the light of day. People party in the street early on, and even half a year later there are a lot more outdoor meetings to discuss politics, or watch explosions, or engage in any number of a thousand hobbies and interest. The world is waking up, or so it seems, from a deep slumber, and while some of that activity is economic, much of it is cultural. Which brings up the defense forces and permits. Some gatherings have come about without the proper permits, which are expensive and currently restricted, requiring approval from a high-ranking military official who, at the moment, is rather too lost for the job. Thus a few choices present themselves.


[] Abolish Permits: Let the people meet however they want, it won't hurt anything, other than your pocket-book a little. (-100 Wealth a turn, people meet more freely and meet more.)
[] Keep them as is: At the moment every bit of money you can get your hands on is needed.
[] Attempt to streamline them, but still require them. (Short term loss of -25 Wealth a turn, less restrictions, might lead to more people paying the fees. Roll 1d100+Stewardship, target DC=40.)


A Song That Sweeps: Songs and dance are a part of literally every culture that has ever reached the stars, and there are albums and videos galore on Gazinitah. Were even during the days before the revolution. But with anti-government Bazkhiti now the mainstream, many make it big, really big. And one, Beskis the "Bard" (she uses a recording of a human saying that word and has some rather daring cyber modifications that allow her to incorporate human rhyme schemes and some of their beats and musical patterns into her work) has made a huge splash. Number one on most of the charts, she was sworn that all profits shall go towards the children of Gazinitah. And thus, by her donations and those she's inspired, for the next two turns you have 100 Wealth a turn earmarked towards education. What do you do with it?


[] Add it to what's spent on education directly.
[] Use it to replace some of the 500 you spend a turn, making a surplus for other use, but not increasing funding in reality, instead holding it steady.
[] Save it to spend on Learning projects having to do with Education.


What is it Good For?: With the demand for internal security slacking, many less-than-willing recruits are quitting, as are less martial defense forces. It's not a flood, more a steady trickle, but on a certain scale it's huge, hundreds of thousands demobilizing, representing several percents of the 10-million strong army sitting around, there to...restore order. The question of what that means is clear in everyone's eyes, as is the fact that many of their comrades have been revealed to be less than savory. (60 Wealth less spending, taken from Police and Infantry primarily, as well as support staff. Which means more money starting next turn to move around as you see fit.)


[] Add it to a category
-[] What?
[] Use it to reduce the loans granted by the Iashec, even if it's a bucket against the ocean.


Intergalactic News


A New Government: The intergalactic government isn't sure what to make of the new Gazinitah government. It's withdrawn its ambassadors, kept its tax system and kept to its treaties, and the reconcilliation could be anywhere between a good and a bad move, but it hasn't made any risky ploys and word has gotten out about the lack of state censorship seen so far, and other promising signs that at least for the moment have kept democracy-watchers and the like hopeful. (International interest somewhat positive, more economic activities might be done, somewhat increased chance for businesses to get foreign loans. Potentially some level of tourism as 'observers' come and go.)

Ilwari Raid: The Ilwari have found and raided another slaving den, this one using cloned Ilwari to provide erotic pleasures to its clients, as well as hosting cloned-Barsa bouncers and other exotic attractions for the humans. Including two Xvorzit. If Gazinitah actually had signed the treaty, they'd get them back just like that, but instead they are stuck in limbo, and the case will no doubt soon leak to the public.


[] Send a representative to try to get them back, and then care for them (-5 wealth for specialized care if they agree, doing a good deed, DC: ???)
[] Don't send one, it's a matter that can be figured out later.

Moved to Tears: On a larger scale, the human intergalactic music scene continues. One particularly popular singer has begun a tour meant to draw attention to the importance of democracy and hope, having come from a rather war-torn human polity. Ulla, always called by her first name, is rather wildly popular, selling multi-billions in song and album sales, as well as, of course, billions of illegal but unprosecutable downloads on top of that. Her tour is selling out, and even some Barsan and other worlds are booking her, riding off the back that every species has a segment of their population obsessed with the culture of each and every single other species. As a new democracy, Gazinitah could request a show.


[] Yes, send someone to talk to her 'people' and work out time and schedules (-25 Wealth, DC ???, Potentially large foreign and domestic opinion boost.)
[] No, it's too likely to be brushed aside, and besides, that's wealth that could be used otherwise. (Nothing happens, she keeps on going, passes Gazinitah by on her way to Yalinea, another Hive World, known for its long-standing democracy, that *has* requested a show.)


Elections: In other news, a major parlimentary election was held on Sol and its member-planets, amid argument and controversy. But by a centrist alliance and owing to an impressive showing by its party leader, the PLK, there is a new government in charge of Sol and overseeing its member-worlds provincial governments. The new Prime-Minister is Mutumbo, apparently the nephew of a famous Sol Navy Captain. Cabinets will no doubt soon be set up, arguments started, but for the moment the most powerful democracy in human history rested at another peaceful turning point. Similar, it seemed to Vorzhan, to all that their own transition turned out to be. Peaceful. They aren't a scholar, and even Kikkizit has only some ideas as to their politics, though increased investment in foreign affairs and movements against internal corruption were apparently some of the topics of the latest election.


[] A representative could be sent to congratulate the new government and try to re-open diplomacy, though it might come off as too desperate or favor-seeking, but it could be a welcome topic. It's hard to tell. (DC ???)
[] A quiet word could be sent through channels to make a public announcement along the lines of 'congratulations on the peaceful transition of power'
[] No, it's too hasty and might be viewed badly by those watching, such as the Iashec.
[] Perhaps you have an even crazier idea? Send yourself? Attack his government? Write-it-in!
 
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[X] Attempt to streamline them, but still require them. (Short term loss of -25 Wealth a turn, less restrictions, might lead to more people paying the fees. Roll 1d100+Stewardship, target DC=40.)
[X] Send a representative to try to get them back, and then care for them (-5 wealth for specialized care if they agree, doing a gooddeed, DC: ???)
[X] A representative could be sent to test the water, privately of course. If it seems like reopening diplomacy would be well received, do so, but if not, go home without drawing atention.
 
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[X] Attempt to streamline them, but still require them. (Short term loss of -25 Wealth a turn, less restrictions, might lead to more people paying the fees. Roll 1d100+Stewardship, target DC=40.)

[X] Use it to replace some of the 500 you spend a turn, making a surplus for other use, but not increasing funding in reality, instead holding it steady.

[X] Use it to reduce the loans granted by the Iashec, even if it's a bucket against the ocean.

[X] Send a representative to try to get them back, and then care for them (-5 wealth for specialized care if they agree, doing a good deed, DC: ???)


[X] Yes, send someone to talk to her 'people' and work out time and schedules (-25 Wealth, DC ???, Potentially large foreign and domestic opinion boost.

[X] A quiet word could be sent through channels to make a public announcement along the lines of 'congratulations on the peaceful transition of power'
 
[X] Abolish Permits: Let the people meet however they want, it won't hurt anything, other than your pocket-book a little. (-100 Wealth a turn, people meet more freely and meet more.)
I want to get the fact that we are a new regime out there as fast as possible; also, freedom of assembly will probably appeal to Sol, as it is a commonly recognized right.
[X] Add it to what's spent on education directly.
It's free and it's what the funds were donated for.
[X] Use it to reduce the loans granted by the Iashec, even if it's a bucket against the ocean.
The symbolism of this is more important than the small financial gain; it is a sign of decreasing Iashec ties.
[X] Send a representative to try to get them back, and then care for them (-5 wealth for specialized care if they agree, doing a good deed, DC: ???)
We're going to sign the treaty, and I see no reason against this.
[X] Yes, send someone to talk to her 'people' and work out time and schedules (-25 Wealth, DC ???, Potentially large foreign and domestic opinion boost.
A proven democracy advocate saying we are for real will do wonders for our rogue state reputation.
[X] A representative could be sent to congratulate the new government and try to re-open diplomacy, though it might come off as too desperate or favor-seeking, but it could be a welcome topic. It's hard to tell. (DC ???)
We can act as a nice pet project; when a party is elected on the basis of foreign Interventionism, helping to set up a stable democracy in an ex-dictatorship can be a nice boost to their popularity.
 
[X] Attempt to streamline them, but still require them. (Short term loss of -25 Wealth a turn, less restrictions, might lead to more people paying the fees. Roll 1d100+Stewardship, target DC=40.)

We do need the income, and we have +11 from Stewardship(meaning we only need to roll 29 or better).
Plus requiring cursory permits reduces social disruption from completely unrestricted meeting(e.g. partying around sleeping areas, or other meetings). We can grant permits easily, but they need to ask for permits at least.

[X] Save it to spend on Learning projects having to do with Education.

A 2 turn boost to Education spending is pretty useless, since you need sustained investment to see improvements. Better to put the 200 wealth towards Learning projects that improve education quality, which allows us to put our piggy bank funds towards other things.
Likewise with replacing upkeep, it only makes for a temporary change, which results in a ton of paperwork, but in effect little gets done.

[X] Use it to reduce the loans granted by the Iashec, even if it's a bucket against the ocean.

Throwing a small amount of funds against the huge debt would not reduce the interest rate significantly.
Put it into economic development instead and we could pay it off sooner. We need to raise income more than we need to trim the debt, because the debt is so large that you NEED income boosts to buy it off.
And of course, economic development goes well with the Will of the People

Invalidated by information

[X] Send a representative to try to get them back, and then care for them (-5 wealth for specialized care if they agree, doing a good deed, DC: ???)

All of our People are our People. They must be returned.

[X] Yes, send someone to talk to her 'people' and work out time and schedules (-25 Wealth, DC ???, Potentially large foreign and domestic opinion boost.

More money, urgh. We need the foreign opinion boost though, if we want to get out of the Iashec shackles with assistance.

[X] A quiet word could be sent through channels to make a public announcement along the lines of 'congratulations on the peaceful transition of power'

We need to make contact, but we can't provoke the Iashec at this juncture. Keep it subtle.
 
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[X] Attempt to streamline them, but still require them. (Short term loss of -25 Wealth a turn, less restrictions, might lead to more people paying the fees. Roll 1d100+Stewardship, target DC=40.)

While we want to allow people to celebrate for morale reasons, letting people do whatever they want seems a bad idea. Given that this has about a 70% chance of success, I way we go for it.

[X] Add it to what's spent on education directly.

While we could probably keep what we're doing under wraps, free money for education seems like a good approval winner, especially if it doesn't come out of our own pocket.

[X] Use it to reduce the loans granted by the Iashec, even if it's a bucket against the ocean.

Was going to put it into somewhere else, but @BCK233 makes a good point about it being symbolic. Might help reassure Sol and friends that we do plan on changing the government's focus.

@veekie, I believe that we cannot move something from military budget to civil budget except for debt servicing. As such we cannot earmark it for civil development. @The Laurent could you clarify budget rules?

[X] Send a representative to try to get them back, and then care for them (-5 wealth for specialized care if they agree, doing a good deed, DC: ???)

This is an incredibly symbolic case. It'll show our own people that we care for them, which should help morale. It'll also build credibility for when we sign the treaty, and will build reputation internationally.

[X] Yes, send someone to talk to her 'people' and work out time and schedules (-25 Wealth, DC ???, Potentially large foreign and domestic opinion boost.

Not keen on the expense, but the symbolism of democracy is very important this early on in the regime. It'll do wonders for how everyone sees us. And foreign opinion is probably going to be our most important resource this early on. Especially as it potentially leads to us getting less murderous rates on our debts.

[X] A quiet word could be sent through channels to make a public announcement along the lines of 'congratulations on the peaceful transition of power'

Basically what veekie said.
 
Possibly. If it can't go to civil works then yeah, burn it on the debt instead of an army that's hopelessly outclassed.

IIRC it's a symptom of how screwed up our government is. We'll probably be able to take a few actions to combine everything into a single budget in order to get things working sanely once again. Eventually at least.
 
[X] Attempt to streamline them, but still require them. (Short term loss of -25 Wealth a turn, less restrictions, might lead to more people paying the fees. Roll 1d100+Stewardship, target DC=40.)
[X] Add it to what's spent on education directly.
[X] Use it to reduce the loans granted by the Iashec, even if it's a bucket against the ocean.
[X] Send a representative to try to get them back, and then care for them (-5 wealth for specialized care if they agree, doing a good deed, DC: ???)
[X] Yes, send someone to talk to her 'people' and work out time and schedules (-25 Wealth, DC ???, Potentially large foreign and domestic opinion boost.
[X] A quiet word could be sent through channels to make a public announcement along the lines of 'congratulations on the peaceful transition of power'

I'd like to add my reasoning, but I wouldn't be saying anything others haven't said already.
 
Main issue with a very public outreach is that the Iashec is going to notice that we're wriggling out from under their control and take countermeasures. We need to play it subtle until we have strength, money and allies to break their grip before they act.

Because all they need to do now is declare war on ANYONE, and we'd be forced into bankruptcy just from minimal contractual obligations or penalties.
 
Because all they need to do now is declare war on ANYONE, and we'd be forced into bankruptcy just from minimal contractual obligations or penalties.

Not an issue, if they declare war on someone, we outright break our treaties and dump our debt to them. Period. Yhea, there will be backlash, but it's better then them breaking us through the war, because at least in a war against them we have a slight chance. Especcialy if we have contacts with powers hostile to them, who know were trying to break away. they would be a lot more likely to send us *aid* against a belligerent power who declared war on a random nation just to break us.
 
[X] Abolish Permits: Let the people meet however they want, it won't hurt anything, other than your pocket-book a little. (-100 Wealth a turn, people meet more freely and meet more.)


[X] Add it to what's spent on education directly.

[X] Use it to reduce the loans granted by the Iashec, even if it's a bucket against the ocean.


[X] Send a representative to try to get them back, and then care for them (-5 wealth for specialized care if they agree, doing a good deed, DC: ???)

[X] Yes, send someone to talk to her 'people' and work out time and schedules (-25 Wealth, DC ???, Potentially large foreign and domestic opinion boost.)


[X] A representative could be sent to congratulate the new government and try to re-open diplomacy, though it might come off as too desperate or favor-seeking, but it could be a welcome topic. It's hard to tell. (DC ???)

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We need to let up on restrictions, many dictatorships requiring permits to meet...Those permits usually arent fair, just or free. We do not need chain-money even with our heavy debt

The funds donated by the philanthropist are for education. We NEED to spend more on education anyway (to deal with the propaganda-fuel and probably shitty conditions).
 
Not an issue, if they declare war on someone, we outright break our treaties and dump our debt to them. Period. Yhea, there will be backlash, but it's better then them breaking us through the war, because at least in a war against them we have a slight chance. Especcialy if we have contacts with powers hostile to them, who know were trying to break away. they would be a lot more likely to send us *aid* against a belligerent power who declared war on a random nation just to break us.
The problem: We have zero such contacts, and breaking a contract you publicly promised to uphold does not inspire others to ally with you. As such, provoking them when the international scene would have a lot of people making noises of approval without actually mobilizing to go to war is extraordinarily likely to blow up in our face.

It takes a lot to go to war for someone else's stake...unless you are bound to do so in an alliance or planning to fight that war anyway.
 
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Yep, it currently has to stay within military-spending, Veekie. And there will be a choice to start combining the three budgets, or the three into two, once you get a better handle on the military budget and a little more trust in that regard. It'll have complications, but it's certainly something in the cards.

And yeah, it'll be a bit before Turn 2 is up, I have surprise-work today and any writing I do is likely going to be on my other Quest. Hence why I thought the vote might be a fun idea to pass the time and also allow some snap decisions.
 
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