Chloe Sullivan
Subdefective
- Location
- 1630 Revello Drive, Sunnydale CA
Sounds like a great way to wake up Cthulhu
A cyborg in the Wasteland [Fallout] [Self-insert]
- Thread starter SpiraSpira
- Start date
- Novel Sci-Fi
Sounds like a great way to wake up Cthulhu
- Location
- Aperture Laboratories
Kind of a bummer how she got the perk.
I mean, what's the point of this "The first perk a traveller picks is often the most powerful. Choose wisely!" when any fucky thing can choose for her? Case in point here. She gets mind whammied and gets her chance taken from her. She didn't even know that she could choose how was she supposed to pick anything?
It's not really a bad perk, kinda important actually, but the way that she got it is really disappointing and kind of soured it for me.
I mean, what's the point of this "The first perk a traveller picks is often the most powerful. Choose wisely!" when any fucky thing can choose for her? Case in point here. She gets mind whammied and gets her chance taken from her. She didn't even know that she could choose how was she supposed to pick anything?
It's not really a bad perk, kinda important actually, but the way that she got it is really disappointing and kind of soured it for me.
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The bit with the Text boxes is from her reviewing her memory of the event before her Basilisk Hack protection kicked in with Inviolable Soul presumably protecting her from lingering damage
According to the chapter shes always had Inviolable Soul, it's just it never needed to activate before, what happened was both the word "Perk" and "Inviolable Soul" we're "clickable", she clicked Perk first which brought up that description on what a perk was in this context, then she clicked on Inviolable Soul which again brought up the description on what it was, presumably either one of or both the two people that make up Lily chose that perk before getting dropped into Fallout.
Either way the memory her then triggered her protections which is how she ended up on the ceiling with no memory of the last several minutes
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- Location
- Aperture Laboratories
Welp, it doesn't appear during her Character creation (Chapter 1, the only perks she has are genius, prodigy and driven plus a bunch of flaws) and she mentions after the perk descriptions that she doesn't remember picking anything so... The next few chapters will answer it. As it is I'm not that happy with how the chapter ends.
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The only thing I can think of is that Genius, Prodigy and Driven we're all under avatar perks which are presumably tied to the avatar/personality while Inviolable Soul is from the actual transmigration process, I mean we get introduced to Lily at chargen not what led to that chargen. That's the only idea I've got, that either half of her personality chose it before the story proper started. 🤷♀️
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Not_Interesting
The Munchkin of Megastructures
- Location
- In your walls(the walls between realities)
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I spit out my coffee, GOD BLESS YOU LILY! Her being an anapologetic ground pounder is hilarious, I am more of a Zoomie person, myself.
Fellow Human
Verified Roado Rolla
She didn't nuke it because she plans to investigate it much later? Perhaps once she gets her hand on psychic powers.
- Location
- Planet Earth
So... the MC has STILL not, to my knowledge, spoken to Gace about the Institute or her past...
Also, really feel like the MC should do more to... secure... that place. Like Nuke it, or bury it, or something...
Also, really feel like the MC should do more to... secure... that place. Like Nuke it, or bury it, or something...
Hey, that's what the last fallen civilization did with the Dunwich thingies!
"Shall we destroy it?"
"If only we could. But it's power is too great. Bury it, deep.
Somewhere where no one will ever find it."
> someone proceeds to find it
It didn't appear in the first chapter because 'Lily', the mix between the woman from IRL and Meimei, had only vague memories of her progenitors until they started integrating with her during her sleep cycle. So she still doesn't remember the complete character creation process, since she hadn't completely integrated the IRL memories. (She tends to identify a lot with Meimei). Possibly she'll dream about the incident that led to her jumpchain or whatever and the full character creation now that the memory has been provoked.
Not_Interesting
The Munchkin of Megastructures
- Location
- In your walls(the walls between realities)
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I did mention this, I think Meimei is really dominant due to her living a lot longer than the other personality/she is really useful due to her coming from a more advanced society and possesing the advanced knowledge that would entail, also she is a BIG personality, but then the other personality supplying Fallout knowhow and grounding Meimei´s more extravagant ideas shrinks her down to a manageable level("just a High Functioning Psychopath" instead of an Armagedon on 8 legs). Meimei seems dominant, because she is just that extra and very much the workhorse of this operation. All hail the Crazy Spider Witch of Megaton.
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canned Tomatoes
verified non-perishable
- Location
- Germany
Eh, someone always does, you only start to worry when it follows you home.Hey, that's what the last fallen civilization did with the Dunwich thingies!
"Shall we destroy it?"
"If only we could. But it's power is too great. Bury it, deep.
Somewhere where no one will ever find it."
> someone proceeds to find it
- Pronouns
- She
I feel like there's more to the psychopath definition than just low empathy, but can't remember any of it
Also, yay for the no brainwashing perk! Always good to maintain free will. Terrified what the obelisk actually is
Also, yay for the no brainwashing perk! Always good to maintain free will. Terrified what the obelisk actually is
Good god! I hope we don't see the Brother Moons... If she's in the same verse as them, welp, Fallout Verse is fracked.
Also, I'd have yeeted that thing into the f-ing sun as soon as possible, Or dropped it into Jupiter, and then proceed to ignite it into another sun... Or at the very least, sent a drilling rig drone, aim it straight down and dig, then nuke the damn hole.
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It's a word that doesn't really have a meaningful definition, and it isn't really used clinically at all anymore. It basically just means someone who thinks very different from normal people, to such an extent that it interferes with their normal life. that said, theres several positive and negative traits that are "common." A negative trait is something that such a person lacks that a neurotypical person generally has, and one example is a lack of empathy or feelings of remorse.
I wouldn't consider Lily a psychopath but she definitely has some of the negative traits people associate with them to some degree or another.
For example, I would say that Lily has a less developed sense of empathy than a normal person, and while she feels remorse she would only feel it in certain situations. An average person would feel guilt or remorse if a bad thing happened and they were even slightly involved, Lily would only feel remorse if she directly did it and that the action was a mistake.
Example: An enemy grabs a non-combatant as a human shield and demands Lily drop her gun, but if she did so she'd immediately be shot. Instead, she attempts to shoot the enemy and misses slightly, seriously injuring the human shield in the process.
A normal, every day person would be filled with a lot of guilt for this action, but Lily wouldn't. She would regret that she missed the shot, but it wouldn't bother her at all because she couldn't see any thing that she would have done differently, aside from "not miss."
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She remembers the Point Lookout DLC where you use that obelisk to destroy what amounts to the Necronomicon. She isn't about to do that quest herself, but she is a bit leery of foreclosing that possibility as she doesn't know which is worse.
- Location
- USA
This bit seems a bit hard to follow. The bit about predictability, psychopathy, trade, and working together doesn't have as much of a clear link. Do you think you could adjust the dialogue on both sides here and the internal thought process a bit for clarity?
- Location
- Belgium
Maybe life in (AF10 - ???) kind of fosters that mindset accidentally. Intellectually, you know the innocent bystander being held hostage isn't going to die if they get hit. But maybe the brain/subconscious mind doesn't know that and learns the behavior/pattern that killing people isn't something to be guilty about?
I have no clue, I'm not a psychologist or an expert.
I have no clue, I'm not a psychologist or an expert.
True Metal Power
Lisa: The Hintful
- Location
- Russia
Well, my take is that she is both in autistic spectrum and a narcissist. Add a healthy dose of fictional conditions caused by ROB-induced personality merge and being a cyborg.
Not_Interesting
The Munchkin of Megastructures
- Location
- In your walls(the walls between realities)
- Pronouns
- He/Him
She is on the Spectrum alright, but where? Only Spira knows.
LordOfMurder
Bhaal
- Location
- Australia
Thinking about it some more, how capable are the AI impersonators she can make? Would it be feasible to download her thoughts about morality into a bunch of robots and set them up as an automatic judiciary for her government?
I thought that psychopathy was the inability to just know that other people have feelings, or that those feelings matter. A high functioning psychopath is someone that has reasoned out that other people's feelings matter (or at least can pretend they do), but it's something they need to think about.
Arguably similar to autism, which I believe is the inability to just know the emotion a person is expressing, as distinct from caring about what emotion the person is feeling.
There was a suggestion that there's a correlation between a degree of high functioning psychopathy and success in management due to sleeping well at night after obtaining a position built on a pile of other people's dead careers.
That said, it merely makes for sleeping well at night after being evil, and while Lily clearly explicitly reasons about how much she cares about any given individual, she is by choice, an active force for good.
Arguably better good than regular good, given enlightened self-interest means reasoning out what the best action is, rather than channeling lawful stupid, and just doing what feels instinctively good.
Arguably similar to autism, which I believe is the inability to just know the emotion a person is expressing, as distinct from caring about what emotion the person is feeling.
There was a suggestion that there's a correlation between a degree of high functioning psychopathy and success in management due to sleeping well at night after obtaining a position built on a pile of other people's dead careers.
That said, it merely makes for sleeping well at night after being evil, and while Lily clearly explicitly reasons about how much she cares about any given individual, she is by choice, an active force for good.
Arguably better good than regular good, given enlightened self-interest means reasoning out what the best action is, rather than channeling lawful stupid, and just doing what feels instinctively good.
- Location
- Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Psychopathy is clinically typified by diagnostically relevant deficiency of emotional responses to stimuli, profound absence of empathy, and persistent behavioral impulse control issues.
Autism is clinically typified by a wide array of sometimes overlapping symptoms, of which are often included a developmental inability to process emotional signals -- both internal and external -- which can often be interpreted as a lack of empathy, deeply systematic reasoning and sensory processing, and ritualized or "stereotypic"/"repetitive" behaviors.
In the right circumstances an autistic person can be mistaken for a psychopath. I know this from personal experience, in fact (the master of the martial art studio I studied at for nine years denied me a black belt because he believed I was a psychopath. A fact I did not discover until I confronted him on the issue. At the time, my family was still denying me knowledge of my autism diagnosis. I knew something was "wrong" with me, mind you -- but I had no labels for it nor psychiatric assistance tailored to the condition. Things I very much remain bitter to this day for having been denied.)
That being said... it's only rare cases of autism that can be so mistaken, and only by people who lack awareness of autism. One of the easiest distinguishing marks is that the systemic reasoning in autists can result in us having deeply binding ethical beliefs, which is something psychopaths are biologically incapable of having. This can be muddied by the fact that said ethics systems rarely have much overlap with common beliefs. Combined with the deep adroitness with compartmentalization that comes from the lack of self-mirror-empathy and, well.
An example: the first animal I ever killed was a newborn kitten. I won't go into details but it was a premie and it's lungs didn't work right: it was dying a slow and painful death of suffocation and there was no way around that. So I carefully aimed and beat it with a shovel so it wouldn't have to hurt anymore because that was the quickest and surest way of achieving that goal I could think of. I had no affect for a few hours after that because I'd "shut off" my emotions.
My then-girlfriend kept trying to get me to open up and talk to her about it because she was worried, and I didn't understand why. The problem was solved, the animal was no longer in pain. What else was there to worry about? (She, rightly, was worried because I'd never hurt a living thing like that before.)
A psychopath would never have needed to go through that loss of affect, and now that I know my condition I could have recovered it within minutes. So to someone who doesn't know the difference, these could be mistaken for each other. But they are very, very different.
The psychopath merely wouldn't have had an empathic response to the killing at all, so wouldn't have had to block or suppress it.
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LordOfMurder
Bhaal
- Location
- Australia
Reading La Jefa, in regards to service taxes being the best kind of taxes, any flat rate tax is going to disproportionately affect poorer citizens. Especially if the service being taxed is also in some way crucial for getting a job. I guess Lily just might not care about poor people though.