1453 AD Constantinople sent back to the Peloponnesian Wars

It would depend but some epidemic and infectious diseases as far as can be found only emerged in humans or or spread Europe in the AD.

If any such diseases are present in Constantinople, its quite possible they could spread beyond the city and well the locals would have no previous exposure to such diseases.
 
It would depend but some epidemic and infectious diseases as far as can be found only emerged in humans or or spread Europe in the AD.

If any such diseases are present in Constantinople, its quite possible they could spread beyond the city and well the locals would have no previous exposure to such diseases.
The same would be true of the Byzantines- their immune systems wouldn't be attenuated to 2000-year-old strains of whatever diseases they were carrying.
 
It's best to handwave the impact of disease away entirely.
 
The same would be true of the Byzantines- their immune systems wouldn't be attenuated to 2000-year-old strains of whatever diseases they were carrying.
True, but the byzantines have been exposed to germs from damn near everywhere on eurasia. The greeks had at best, diseases from everyone on the medditerranean coast, though mostly the eastern half.
It's best to handwave the impact of disease away entirely.
If americans in leather pants and feathered hats couldnt handwave smallpox blankets, then neither can europeans in bedsheets and leather skirts.
 
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Immunity is not skill levels that you add up on your character sheet.

Alleles for particular antigens will disappear, due to random drift, or being replaced with new more relevant alleles.

To become a pandemic, a pathogen must match a very fine-tuned set of epidemiological characteristics, which normal strains lack under their usual living circumstances.

The American Exchange was so lethally extensive for two main reasons:

1) All the old world domesticated species that had served to generate all these new diseases through cross-species contamination
2) Constant exposure to new disease vectors, year after year, decade after decade, as new settlers arrived, preventing the native immunity from building up, if they survived one variant the next one that came got them.

An isot is a one-off shot. You have the shock at the moment of contact, but afterwards it not more any likely.

The results are a very wide spectrum of more or less virulent epidemics, more or less noticeable, catastrophic ones are just a subset of the possibilities.

Also, keep in mind that contamination is bidirectional. Here, in this exchange, it's Byzantium that has a small population exposed to a vast reservoir of potential pathogens, so the shoe could be on the other foot.

It's best to handwave the impact of disease away entirely.

Yes. It's just too random and unpredictable what will happen, when it will happen, what will be the effects if and when it happens. It's just playing roulette. It could be nothing much, it could be a doomsday combo of the Justinian and Black plagues, it could be anything in between, it could happen at once, it could happen centuries later in the future.
 
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Immunity is not skill levels that you add up on your character sheet.
Actually, I think that is an apt comparison. As your immune system encounters new pathogens, if you are able to survive them, you'll gain some level of immunity to it, but that immunity isn't going to pass onto your children (since it isn't genetic). The problem with indigenous Americans was because these diseases were encountering populations that had never encountered them before, it would result in whole villages getting sick simultaneously, whereas in Europe there were populations that had already been exposed, and thus had immunity (at least, those that survived). Without some people who had already recovered from smallpox/cowpox/chickenpox, you're not going to have enough people to care for those who have it currently- meaning those that would have survived with proper care end up dying, meaning no immunity builds up as the community in general crumbles.

We should remember that smallpox still killed millions of Europeans, and infected millions more- they didn't survive because of some evolved resistance, but because the populations as a whole could take it, and rebound. Indigenous American populations, however, were not afforded this chance.
 
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