Shattered Empire: A Noble Warlord Quest (CKII)

[X] Contact Dame Egonova, unofficial leader of your mother's allies in the Senate Commons. If enough of the nouveau-riche and "mandarin class" withdraws their support, Ivan's coup will collapse without you having to fire a shot. (Mandate will be "Pursuit of Justice." Egonova will expect to be named Minister for the Exchequer. Gain trait "Stewardship Focus:" +3 Stewardship, +2 Diplomacy, +1 Learning.)
 
[x] Contact Admiral Kozlova, and meet up with her fleet and the remaining loyalist ships to take down the remains of the Home Flotilla. Kozlova may be loyal to the Tsarina's heir for now, but she and the military establishment will expect compensation for sticking their necks out for you. (Mandate will be "Hammer of Rurik." Kozlova will expect to be named your Minister for War. Gain trait "Martial Focus:" +3 Martial, +2 Stewardship, +1 Intrigue.)
 
Inserted tally; probably going to leave this open for a while longer, since this vote is pretty important and there's currently a three-way tie.
Adhoc vote count started by inquisition on Dec 31, 2017 at 9:09 AM, finished with 17 posts and 15 votes.

  • [X] Contact Colonel Lisitsyn, second-in-command of the Okhrana. The current Intelligence chief, General Baronova, has thrown her support behind Ivan's coup - Lisitsyn can… remove her from office and kick that vital pillar of support out from under Ivan's feet. (Mandate will be "Far Reach." Lisitsyn will expect to be named Minister for Intelligence. Gain trait "Intrigue Focus:" +3 Intrigue, +2 Learning, +1 Stewardship.)
    [X] Contact Dame Egonova, unofficial leader of your mother's allies in the Senate Commons. If enough of the nouveau-riche and "mandarin class" withdraws their support, Ivan's coup will collapse without you having to fire a shot. (Mandate will be "Pursuit of Justice." Egonova will expect to be named Minister for the Exchequer. Gain trait "Stewardship Focus:" +3 Stewardship, +2 Diplomacy, +1 Learning.)
    [X] Contact Admiral Kozlova, and meet up with her fleet and the remaining loyalist ships to take down the remains of the Home Flotilla. Kozlova may be loyal to the Tsarina's heir for now, but she and the military establishment will expect compensation for sticking their necks out for you. (Mandate will be "Hammer of Rurik." Kozlova will expect to be named your Minister for War. Gain trait "Martial Focus:" +3 Martial, +2 Stewardship, +1 Intrigue.)
    [x] Make a deal with Grand Bishop Panin. He will openly voice the Primus's opposition to Ivan's coup, and any popular support (and thus the support of his forces) should dissipate quickly; in exchange, you will keep an ear open for certain… considerations once you are on the throne. (Mandate will be "Inquisition." Panin's appointment is already at the discretion of the Cult, but he does expect you to appoint religious-minded vassals to positions of power. Gain trait "Piety Focus:" +3 Piety, +2 Learning, +1 Diplomacy.)
 
Hm, nobody wants to go with the Grand Bishop, ye heathens. Well, let's go with the next best thing after the Inquisition, then!

[X] Contact Colonel Lisitsyn
 
Well, we have a tie breaker @inquisition... and I'm pretty sure you know who we open lines of communications to, to make our victory after the coup firm...

Or in other words, I think you know who our four main Keys to Power are going to be... Our Uncle, and currently the Okhrana are the primary ones, with the Dame and Admiral as secondary ones...

Which I actually like. We use our martial and intrigue strength to fend off outsiders whilst probably expanding into the Periphery, whilst reforming the economy and law to keep everyone calm and fund the expansion...
 
[X] Contact Dame Egonova, unofficial leader of your mother's allies in the Senate Commons. If enough of the nouveau-riche and "mandarin class" withdraws their support, Ivan's coup will collapse without you having to fire a shot. (Mandate will be "Pursuit of Justice." Egonova will expect to be named Minister for the Exchequer. Gain trait "Stewardship Focus:" +3 Stewardship, +2 Diplomacy, +1 Learning.)
 
[x] Contact Dame Egonova, unofficial leader of your mother's allies in the Senate Commons. If enough of the nouveau-riche and "mandarin class" withdraws their support, Ivan's coup will collapse without you having to fire a shot. (Mandate will be "Pursuit of Justice." Egonova will expect to be named Minister for the Exchequer. Gain trait "Stewardship Focus:" +3 Stewardship, +2 Diplomacy, +1 Learning.)
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Miner249er on Jan 2, 2018 at 12:45 AM, finished with 26 posts and 18 votes.

  • [X] Contact Dame Egonova, unofficial leader of your mother's allies in the Senate Commons. If enough of the nouveau-riche and "mandarin class" withdraws their support, Ivan's coup will collapse without you having to fire a shot. (Mandate will be "Pursuit of Justice." Egonova will expect to be named Minister for the Exchequer. Gain trait "Stewardship Focus:" +3 Stewardship, +2 Diplomacy, +1 Learning.)
    [X] Contact Colonel Lisitsyn, second-in-command of the Okhrana. The current Intelligence chief, General Baronova, has thrown her support behind Ivan's coup - Lisitsyn can… remove her from office and kick that vital pillar of support out from under Ivan's feet. (Mandate will be "Far Reach." Lisitsyn will expect to be named Minister for Intelligence. Gain trait "Intrigue Focus:" +3 Intrigue, +2 Learning, +1 Stewardship.)
    [X] Contact Admiral Kozlova, and meet up with her fleet and the remaining loyalist ships to take down the remains of the Home Flotilla. Kozlova may be loyal to the Tsarina's heir for now, but she and the military establishment will expect compensation for sticking their necks out for you. (Mandate will be "Hammer of Rurik." Kozlova will expect to be named your Minister for War. Gain trait "Martial Focus:" +3 Martial, +2 Stewardship, +1 Intrigue.)
    [X] Contact Colonel Lisitsyn

Adhoc vote count started by Miner249er on Jan 2, 2018 at 2:21 PM, finished with 29 posts and 20 votes.

  • [X] Contact Dame Egonova, unofficial leader of your mother's allies in the Senate Commons. If enough of the nouveau-riche and "mandarin class" withdraws their support, Ivan's coup will collapse without you having to fire a shot. (Mandate will be "Pursuit of Justice." Egonova will expect to be named Minister for the Exchequer. Gain trait "Stewardship Focus:" +3 Stewardship, +2 Diplomacy, +1 Learning.)
    [X] Contact Colonel Lisitsyn, second-in-command of the Okhrana. The current Intelligence chief, General Baronova, has thrown her support behind Ivan's coup - Lisitsyn can… remove her from office and kick that vital pillar of support out from under Ivan's feet. (Mandate will be "Far Reach." Lisitsyn will expect to be named Minister for Intelligence. Gain trait "Intrigue Focus:" +3 Intrigue, +2 Learning, +1 Stewardship.)
    [X] Contact Admiral Kozlova, and meet up with her fleet and the remaining loyalist ships to take down the remains of the Home Flotilla. Kozlova may be loyal to the Tsarina's heir for now, but she and the military establishment will expect compensation for sticking their necks out for you. (Mandate will be "Hammer of Rurik." Kozlova will expect to be named your Minister for War. Gain trait "Martial Focus:" +3 Martial, +2 Stewardship, +1 Intrigue.)
    [X] Contact Colonel Lisitsyn
 
[X] Contact Dame Egonova, unofficial leader of your mother's allies in the Senate Commons. If enough of the nouveau-riche and "mandarin class" withdraws their support, Ivan's coup will collapse without you having to fire a shot. (Mandate will be "Pursuit of Justice." Egonova will expect to be named Minister for the Exchequer. Gain trait "Stewardship Focus:" +3 Stewardship, +2 Diplomacy, +1 Learning.)
 
[x] Contact Admiral Kozlova, and meet up with her fleet and the remaining loyalist ships to take down the remains of the Home Flotilla. Kozlova may be loyal to the Tsarina's heir for now, but she and the military establishment will expect compensation for sticking their necks out for you. (Mandate will be "Hammer of Rurik." Kozlova will expect to be named your Minister for War. Gain trait "Martial Focus:" +3 Martial, +2 Stewardship, +1 Intrigue.)
 
[X] Contact Colonel Lisitsyn, second-in-command of the Okhrana. The current Intelligence chief, General Baronova, has thrown her support behind Ivan's coup - Lisitsyn can… remove her from office and kick that vital pillar of support out from under Ivan's feet. (Mandate will be "Far Reach." Lisitsyn will expect to be named Minister for Intelligence. Gain trait "Intrigue Focus:" +3 Intrigue, +2 Learning, +1 Stewardship.)
 
Calling it significantly later than expected, but calling it nonetheless.
Adhoc vote count started by inquisition on Jan 2, 2018 at 3:09 PM, finished with 29 posts and 20 votes.

  • [X] Contact Dame Egonova, unofficial leader of your mother's allies in the Senate Commons. If enough of the nouveau-riche and "mandarin class" withdraws their support, Ivan's coup will collapse without you having to fire a shot. (Mandate will be "Pursuit of Justice." Egonova will expect to be named Minister for the Exchequer. Gain trait "Stewardship Focus:" +3 Stewardship, +2 Diplomacy, +1 Learning.)
    [X] Contact Colonel Lisitsyn, second-in-command of the Okhrana. The current Intelligence chief, General Baronova, has thrown her support behind Ivan's coup - Lisitsyn can… remove her from office and kick that vital pillar of support out from under Ivan's feet. (Mandate will be "Far Reach." Lisitsyn will expect to be named Minister for Intelligence. Gain trait "Intrigue Focus:" +3 Intrigue, +2 Learning, +1 Stewardship.)
    [X] Contact Admiral Kozlova, and meet up with her fleet and the remaining loyalist ships to take down the remains of the Home Flotilla. Kozlova may be loyal to the Tsarina's heir for now, but she and the military establishment will expect compensation for sticking their necks out for you. (Mandate will be "Hammer of Rurik." Kozlova will expect to be named your Minister for War. Gain trait "Martial Focus:" +3 Martial, +2 Stewardship, +1 Intrigue.)
    [X] Contact Colonel Lisitsyn
 
... Yeah, it does... as long as I don't pull my vote for it and stick with just voting for the Colonel. But in that case, the Colonel and Dame tie, and considering I don't really care which of the two win... I'm okay with this.
 
Prologue: The Course is Set
[X] Contact Dame Egonova, unofficial leader of your mother's allies in the Senate Commons. If enough of the nouveau-riche and "mandarin class" withdraws their support, Ivan's coup will collapse without you having to fire a shot. (Mandate will be "Pursuit of Justice." Egonova will expect to be named Minister for the Exchequer. Gain trait "Stewardship Focus:" +3 Stewardship, +2 Diplomacy, +1 Learning.)

You consider your options, fingers steepled and eyes boring into the opposite wall as the assembled council waits for you expectantly. The ideas have been proposed, the possibilities laid out - and it dawns on you that they can be divided neatly into two categories: force and subterfuge.

Force is straightforward; linking up with Admiral Kozlova or groveling before Duke Yusopov would give you the ability to at least step up to Ivan's fleet at near-parity, but with the possibility of future conflicts in mind, you shelve both ideas - the losses to the fleet, at this point, will be far too great. Furthermore, you think with some amusement, you're not particularly interested in being at a lowly duke's beck and call.

Now, subterfuge - that is much more appealing. You've never exactly been one for military matters anyway, preferring the scholastic arts and the dagger to the cudgel. But who to ally with? Your first instinct is to take the Bishop's advice and tie yourself to Panin; but you conclude that that is too hand-tying; the Cult is notorious in political circles for its machinations and overuse of the Daggermen for perceived slights, and you've little interest in provoking the wrath of the Blades should you fail to live up to Panin's expectations.

Next, you consider having General Baronova removed and usurping the Okhrana. There are a lot of bonuses to that option; through Tatiana, you already have a connection to Moskva's intelligence community, and your mother likely had her own agents within the organization who might be able to assist your takeover. They could sabotage Ivan's fleets, assassinate his supporters and his generals, and generally sow enough chaos for his already-unstable regime to topple.

But you're nothing if not a woman who considers the future, and you quickly come to the conclusion that subverting the secret service is too risky. Even after a hypothetical purge conducted by Lisitsyn, you won't have full control over the Okhrana's hiring process, and Lisitsyn, if he can be convinced by your people, might be just as easily be swayed by others.

Only one option then.

"Lord Evgeny," you say, eyes still focused on the far bulkhead.

"A-ah, yes, Your Ladyship?" The little man sits ramrod straight in the chair, eyes wide and staring and hands vibrating on the table. He looks for all the world like one of those little dogs your great-aunt once had had imported from Terra - Chihuyas? Chiyooees?

You focus on him, crushing down any more errant thoughts. "You know the Senate best here, Lord Evgeny. Bring us up to speed."

It is not an easy decision, but you're fairly certain it's the correct one. The Senate, both Lords and Commons, is essential for a smooth reign; the Lords are representatives from the dozens of noble houses that make up the Lands of Rurik, and the three major houses - Aristarkhov, Yusopov, and Goryemkin - hold vast sway through their own representatives.

As for the Commons, they are made up of some of the most wealthy and influential commoners in the Lands of Rurik; tycoons like Egonova, powerful local governors, military officers, and the like. To be appointed to the one hundred seats in the Senate Commons is to be one of the most powerful people across the Rurikovich domain.

Egonova's faction, if it can be marshaled, could theoretically kick the economic and political support out from under your brother. Egonova herself has many friends and contacts within the byzantine Moskva bureaucracy, and without the bureaucracy, Ivan cannot govern.

If the Senate turns, then out of necessity, the bureaucracy will turn; if the bureaucracy turns, so too must the military-industrial complex that feeds the armies of Rurik. It's not a foolproof plan, or even a plan with a high chance of success - but in the long run, it's probably your best bet.

Evgeny Aristarkhov says as much, stammering the words out like a machine gun. You wonder why this little man was appointed to the Senate himself, but as he begins to lay out numbers and explain how you might go about it, you realize that he is a veritable fount of information and numbers. You can see why your uncle chose him as one of his Senators.

"It will take some time, but the Senate can effectively c-cut off Ivan's logistical s-support." Evgeny places a trembling finger on a set of numbers that takes you a minute or so to read. According to intel, which continues to flow in from isolated loyalist groups on Moskva, both sides are hanging on by a thread; while Ivan controls much of Posadka, sporadic fighting is severely hampering his forces' ability to resupply.

"Can we get a quantum comm with Egonova?" You ask, glancing at Baron Vladimir.

Your uncle nods. "Ivan may have knocked out the Mir system's slipstream relay, but we can try to hail her personal quantum ID." He pauses. "Assuming she's listening."

"At a time like this, Uncle, I'd be shocked if she wasn't."


It takes a few hours of breathless waiting, but eventually the Orlan's comm officer informs you over intercom that the Dane Svetlana Egonova is ready to "discuss terms."

You inwardly grimace at the terminology used; you knew going in that this would be a negotiation from a position of weakness, and that Egonova potentially has a lot to lose by siding with you, but seeing it put so bluntly is a bit nerve-wracking. Before you have the quantum comm routed to the conference room, there is one more thing you need to figure out - one deceptively important thing that could make or break this.

Vladimir has had a fabricator on Norilsk print you an "official" uniform of the Preobrazhensky Guards, mich like the Tsarina wore at official public functions and when addressing her subjects. At your dubious look at assuming your mother's mantle at a time like this, before she's even been laid on her pyre, the Baron shrugs apologetically. "It's a little presumptuous, I know, but it's politically useful. You want Egonova - and anyone else you deal with - to think of you as the Tsarina, rather than just one contender for the throne. This will help."

[ ] Don the uniform. You have to present a strong face for potential allies.
[ ] Refuse to wear the Guard uniform, and instead remain with your normal attire. You have no interest in such pomp and circumstance at this time.
 
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the Cult is notorious in political circles for its machinations and overuse of the Daggermen for perceived slights
Nonsense, there is no such thing as an overuse of Daggermen! :mob:

Normally, I wouldn't bet all our chips on bureaucracy... all Ivan needs is a little display of force with a few trials/executions for show, and a lot of the tycoons and governors - who are a pretty disunited bunch - would hesitate and buckle, having no answer to a direct threat. I wonder what kind of connections Egonova has that would prevent such an outcome.

[x] Don the uniform. You have to present a strong face for potential allies.
 
[X] Refuse to wear the Guard uniform, and instead remain with your normal attire. You have no interest in such pomp and circumstance at this time.

Okay, yeah, donning the uniform does give us a tie in to the old legitimate government in the eyes of the people we're talking to... But there's one problem with that...

Here's the Mandate we have chosen to be what we need to achieve during our first 10? years in office, if we aren't to have... political difficulties...

Pursuit of Justice: Dame Egonova is a bureaucrat through and through, and despite the "corrupt civil servant" stereotype, she hates the money-hemorrhaging that occurs throughout the Moskva bureaucracy. As such, as part of your deal, she has requested that you make "cleaning out" the six "Great Pillars" of state within ten years, or at least show that you have made visible progress. If not, well, even the Tsarina must be mindful of the Senate's wrath...

The Uniform is about pomp and circumstance. Which get's tied to the money haemorrhaging that the Dame wants stopped... Donning the uniform gives the impression that we enjoy all that expensive stuff. Refusing it gives the impression that whilst we know it's there, we don't necessarily agree with it. Which can quite possibly counter the reduced impression of legitimacy not wearing the uniform gives, if not exceed it.
 
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