SAO ideas, fics, and discussion

Part of SAO's shtick is it was set in an MMO. While it's interesting to see a What If of a real fantasy setting, at that point, I might as well go read a fantasy story, y'know?

I like idea two better, because done well I can see it go down interesting roads.
 
Thanks, but I wasn't kidding when I said I don't have much for the second idea. That's the one I'm struggling with. Perhaps I should just post what I have?

Be warned: I don't think it's very good...


Title: AOL: The Black Swordsman and the Flash
Authoress: Neph Champion
Summary: After waking up, Kirigaya Kazuto and Yuuki Asuna are content with finding each other and continuing what they started in Sword Art Online. The new game, Alfhiem Online, which has been out for about a year might be a problem though.
Disclaimer: I don't own SAO.
Pairing: Kirito/Asuna


(Beginnings)

Asuna and Kirito watched as Kayaba Akihiko walked away before turning to look down at the huge castle that was falling apart.

"Ne," Asuna looked to her in-game husband out of the corner of an eye, "We should tell each other our real names so that we can find each other on the other side."

"Mm," Kirito hummed in agreement, "Kazuto, I'm Kirigaya Kazuto and I just turned sixteen."

Asuna smiled sadly as Floor Twenty-Two started to fall away, "I'm Yuuki Asuna, and I'm seventeen."

They kissed as the world around them went white.

Tokyo General Hospital: November 2024

Kirigaya Kazuto woke to the beeping of his phone, or at least, he thought it was his phone. He pulled the covers over his head before reaching towards his bedside table for the thing with his right hand.

What he touched was too big to be his smart phone, but for the moment he chose to ignore it. Then he sat up, yawning widely. His Nervegear landed with a quiet thud on his pillow as he rubbed the sleep from his eyes with his left.
The feeling of cool, smooth metal shocked him out of his sleepy state and Kazuto stared in stunned confusion at the familiar grey band of his wedding ring. It wasn't just the ring that held his attention either. His hand didn't look like the hand of a person who had just woken up from a two year long coma.

In his right hand was not his smart phone, it was a tablet that he'd never seen before. Scrolled across the top was a message:

Good morning Kirito Kuro no Kenshin-sama,

Kirito was his screen name and he was known as the Kuro no Kenshin. Though some did choose to use the English translation of Black Swordsman. But Kazuto wasn't sure what was going on.
You'll be glad to know that your and your wife's inventory was successfully realized. I'd hurry if I were you; Asuna-sama needs your help. Good luck, Father.

Cardinal


Kazuto surged out of bed, the diodes monitoring his heart and the IV in his arm detaching from his skin and pulled out of his vein as he rushed to check the closet in his hospital room.

When he flung the doors apart his mouth dropped open and he was speechless for several seconds as he took in the armor and clothes that he'd worn for the last two years that hung from the hangers and the two achingly familiar swords that were hung on the inside of the closet doors.

"How?" he finally managed to mutter. Hadn't Dark Repulsor broken during his fight with Kayaba? Kazuto shook his head as he hurriedly pulled his clothes on. The loud constant beep of the heart monitor flat lining because it wasn't connected anymore was annoying, but it would no doubt bring someone to investigate relatively quickly.

Kazuto wanted to be gone before anyone arrived.

He pulled on his armor, gloves and boots before pulling on his signature black cloak and slung his swords onto his back. He went back to the bed and picked up the tablet. There was a brief explanation of what had happened.
Kazuto turned to leave, but a small sound stopped him.

"Mmm," he turned to see that there was a small lump curled up on his bed under the covers. "Papa? Please turn that off?"

Kazuto held his breath as the sheet shifted, revealing a tiny little girl rubbing her eyes clear of sleep.

"Yui?" he asked, unable to believe his eyes.

The little girl nodded, "Good morning Papa. Where's Mama?"

"I don't know," Kazuto replied, clipping his new tablet to his belt. "But we're going to find out. Come on, it's time to get out of bed. We need to leave before someone comes to investigate."

The dark haired little girl nodded, hopping out of the bed, "OK Papa, can you carry me please?"

Kazuto nodded, scooping her up. His daughter looked much younger than she had in Sword Art Online. She must have come along with his inventory since what he'd been able to salvage of her program had become an in game item. He decided not to think about it and just be thankful that she'd been realized as her 'human' self instead of that necklace.

Yui still looked like her mother but with his coloring. Without a single look back, Kazuto opened his window and leaped out into the Real World.

Yui giggled as the wind rushed through her long black hair. Her eyes widening as she saw the huge cityscape all around them, "Papa?"

"Yes?" Kazuto asked as he landed on the roof a building near the hospital he'd been kept in, his legs bending energy coiling before he jumped again, high and far.

"Is this your home?"

Kazuto shook his head, "That was where they were keeping me alive, not home."

Yui nodded, "Where's Mama?"

"I haven't checked yet, maybe I can use the tablet to find her." Kazuto came to a stop on the roof of a modest house in a quiet neighborhood. He carefully climbed onto the sill and opened the window to his bedroom.
He set Yui on his bed and pulled the tablet from his belt, "OK, let's see." He took a few minutes to figure out how to navigate through the menu. "Ok, now I just need to send Asuna a text, then it'll be easy to find her, hopefully."
Yui was looking around the room while she waited for her father to finish what he was doing. She found Papa's room fascinating.

Tokyo Memorial Hospital

Asuna glared at her father, "What are you talking about?"

"You are engaged to Nobuyuki-kun, your wedding will be in two months." Her mother replied.

Asuna's knuckles turned white as she glared at her mother's retreating back, only relaxing when she was sure she was alone. She brought her left hand up to the light to admire her wedding band and smiled wistfully, "Kirito-kun, where are you now?" she turned to look out the window, not even taking a minute to admire the view before turning away.

She flung the covers and stood from the hospital bed. "I need to get out of here," she eyed the closed door from the corner of her eye as she flung the closet doors open. "Before Sugou comes and sees my wedding ring preferably."
There was also the problem of being able to find her husband in this real world, but Asuna did her best to ignore the issue for the moment as she dressed in her Red and White Knights of the Blood armor and thoughtlessly buckled her sword belt around her waist.

On her way passed her hospital bed, she scooped up the tablet she'd spied while ignoring her mother's rant on marrying Sugou and clipped it to her belt next to her rapier. She huffed as she returned to the window and took in the view.

What was this thing for? Asuna sighed as she taught herself to navigate its strangely familiar menu. She was familiar with these numbers, they meant something, but for the moment she couldn't fathom what that meant.

And that's the end of Chapter One Part One.

I am really not happy with this draft. Maybe I'll post the prologue of the other one next... Feedback is hugely appreciated!

EDIT: Yes, I know that's not really where Asuna was placed, but I really can't remember what her hospital was called.
 
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Plot bunny that just occurred to me: what if the SAO incident had Japan ban commercial VR. ALO exists, but it's illegal. (How someone manages to run an illegal MMO under these circumstances would require the same handwaving as Kayaba managing to run SAO in the first place).

Suguha is still an ALO player, for largely the same reason as canon. Sugou is running ALO on servers ostensibly for government-contracted research partly to raise money for his private research.

Kazuto and Suguha don't tell each other they're playing ALO because neither is going to admit to committing a crime, particularly when it's a crime that his their family hard and one that their (Suguha's) mother would be pretty furious about. (Making her a character of some relevance).

Also Sugou initially portrays himself to Kazuto as a semi-sympathetic character: he's Asuna's fiance and thus a rival but they have mutual interests since both of them want her to wake up and both are in favour of VR. In private Sugou is just as much of a prick but doesn't actually display it to Kazuto.
 
Plot bunny that just occurred to me: what if the SAO incident had Japan ban commercial VR.
I mean, this is something that's probably not gonna happen in a society as technologically intertwined as Japan, though admittedly, apparently Japan's gaming scene is more geared toward handhelds and consoles than in-house gaming. Also, public backlash against VR games would be immense, presumably prompting legislation, and then Japanese conformity with law and society does the rest. So not that unbelievable.

But as long as you clear that hurdle to establish the setting, and it's honestly not a very tall one, this seems like a very solid foundation for a rewrite of the ALO arc, adding a few interesting elements. Especially by changing Sugou's initial appearance and behaviour towards Kirito.

It would also change Kikuoka's role from semi-ally in the original to an ambiguous antagonist, as he would be charged with tracking down illegal VR games and thus be considered a danger by both Kirito and Suguha, but nonetheless he would be interested in getting Asuna out of her coma and helping Kirito do so.

It's a solid set-up. This story could work.
 
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No feedback yet? :cry:

But I suppose, since it's not a double post anymore I can post my other one.

Title: The Spriggan and Titania
Authoress: Neph Champion
Summary: Oberon is not who he says he is. And Kirito and Asuna find themselves once again trapped in a game when the Spriggan completes an unknown quest.
Disclaimer: I don't own SAO.
Pairing: Kirito/Asuna

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Cardinal ran down a majestic hallway, panic in her eyes as she searched for her parents and younger sisters, "Mother!" she called, "Father! Yui! Strea!" where were they all? Against her better judgement, Cardinal found herself slowing. She licked her lip, panting as she slowly looked around. The hallway was completely deserted. "Where is everyone?"

Cardinal would be kicking herself later, for not paying attention the way her father had taught her to. Cardinal never noticed the ominous shadow creeping up on where she was standing. She gasped as she was hit hard from behind, her head snapping forward as the back of her neck, that nerve, was hit. Cardinal had no time to wonder what was going on as she blacked out.

What seemed like several hours later, Cardinal regained consciousness in a strange room with no doors or windows. "Where am I?" she wondered, looking around shaking her head to clear the last of the fuzziness in her mind. There was a keyboard and a holographic monitor, much like the one her father used to keep tabs on Arrun and the other capitals. What was she doing here? How did she get here? And, where was here?

She walked over and sat down when a chair appeared behind her. Cardinal's fingers began to fly over the keys as she investigated the terminal. What she found was surprising, "This, this is a copy of Alfhiem." She slowly realized. "I need to find mother in this mess if I can."

The first name she looked for was the one that her father used as a pet name for her mother. Cardinal couldn't find it. Next she looked for the name her mother used publicly: Titania. "Mother's in the Floating City." She breathed, bringing up an image.

She even looked like her normal self, other than those delicate wings that didn't look like they'd support a pixy much less her mother. That and her mother would normally never be caught in a dress like that one, no matter how pretty. Cardinal sighed, her eyes narrowing in anger when she saw that the cage she and Father spent time in had locked bars. "That cage isn't supposed to even have a door." So, why did it? And who was that in there with her? That wasn't her father.

Cardinal played around a little more before finding the way to listen in. Her glee turned to fear when she heard what the man was saying to her mother.

"-Titania."

Cardinal grimaced, what an oily voice. It was nothing like her father's warm baritone. She shivered as she tried playing with the angle of the video. "Please, let Mother be able to handle him while I figure out what I can do from here." She pleaded almost silently, splitting her attention so that she could look for her Father's private name.

"My name is not Titania! It's Asuna!" her snarl made Cardinal wince. Her mother was deadly when she used that tone. Even without her rapier at her side.

The Sylph just chuckled, he didn't seem to think that he was in any danger at all and Cardinal didn't feel any sympathy at all for the idiot. When her father arrived, he was dead, and that was only if her mother didn't do anything first.

No Name yet, and from her mother's reaction, Oberon wasn't her father anyway. Cardinal knew what her father looked like. Maybe he wasn't logged in or hadn't made an account yet. Cardinal was carefully setting up a program that would alert her to when her father logged on when a motion on the screen showing her mother and the Sylph with the weird wings stopped her cold.

Her hands flew from the virtual keyboard to cover her mouth. Had that creeper really just-? Cardinal felt sick to her stomach as she watched her mother, the proud and powerful Titania get molested.

Cardinal took a deep breath, "Well, if that idiot wasn't dead before he for sure is now." She didn't want to watch anymore. She turned the stream off, feeling like she was going to taste her breakfast again. Why weren't her mother's guards doing anything? She went looking for the views of the rest of the city.

As she checked each camera Cardinal's eyes got wider and wider. Where were the beautiful buildings? Where was their marble palace? Where were all the people? And last but not least: WHY WERE THERE MONSTERS?

Earth: Tokyo: Kirigaya Residence

Kirgaya Kazuto ran in the front door, barely remembering to take his shoes off before dashing to his bedroom. He sighed as he closed the door behind him, "Asuna," he closed his eyes, trying to fight back the tears.

Suguo Nobuyuki was going to pay for this slight!

Kazuto calmed himself down as he sat in his computer chair and turned his computer on. Seeing her, his wife lying there with a NerveGear on her head was heartbreaking and he felt helpless. "I beat the game, just for her to not wake up. This has to be a sick joke."

He blinked when he saw the indicator saying he had mail. "An email?" he clicked on it, his eyes widening when he saw her blurry picture in a cage, the caption made his blood boil:

Argo found this on a game forum, Kirito, what do we do? This is Asuna. Isn't it?

Kazuto got up and left his room again, Asuna was in another game. "I have to get her out."

His sister poked her head out of the kitchen, "Onii-chan, where are you going?"

"Out. I need to follow up on the lead I just got Sugu," Kazuto turned to look at her as he pulled his winter boots back on at the front door. "I'll be back soon."

Sugu sighed, "Alright, just don't stay out too late ok?"

"I won't." he shut the door behind him and reached for his bike. He mounted it and rode off with all the speed his recovering body could give him. It was still confusing how he was able to do so much already. "It's only been two months since we Cleared SAO." He mused, sure he wasn't the only one who had recovered so rapidly but he was the only one who had recovered the most. "Why did I recover the fastest?"

It took him twenty minutes to get there. Kazuto didn't bother tying up his bike; he let it drop where he stopped as he dashed into the Dicey Café. "Agil! What is the meaning of this?" he snarled as he stalked up to the bar where the tall black man stood cleaning a glass.

Agil, Andrew Gilbert Mills, looked up sighing, "You're here early."

Kazuto glared, "I still think you're full of it when you say it gets busy here." He snapped, taking a seat on one of the stools at the bar. "Now, about that picture you sent me."

Agil sighed again, now he understood what Heathcliff had meant. He reached down behind the bar, "That's kind of complicated." He slid the game along the bar, "I found the pic on a forum for this."

Kazuto looked down at the cover, "Alf Heim?"

"Alfheim," Agil corrected, "The Land of Faeries."

"Do you know where it was taken?" Kazuto's expression had gone flat and serious. He knew that out here they weren't married, but he and Asuna considered themselves to be. "If she and the other three hundred that haven't woken are in another game."

Agil nodded, "The SAO Incident isn't over yet, and it won't be until they wake up." The man put a glass of Oolong tea in front of the seething teen. "You can't do anything until you get into the game, Kirito-san. As much as I hate to say it, Asuna-san isn't going anywhere. Now calm down and drink your tea while it's hot."

Kazuto glared up at the man again before picking up the mug and taking a long sip, "You said Argo found it?"

Agil nodded, "She told me where to look. She wanted to send you the screen shot right away but I told her not to. I'd do so after verifying it myself."

"So it's real then." Kazuto frowned, "Does anyone else know?"

"Everyone else has already seen it," Agil confirmed, "We all have the game." He gestured to the copy in Kazuto's hands, "That one's for you."

Kazuto chuckled, smirking, "You all know me way too well." He sipped at his tea. "We will get her back."

Agil covered a snort; the Kirito-sama he knew was back, "Of course, Commander." Kirito may not have been as charismatic as Heathcliff but he hadn't needed to be. Agil was still amazed that the young man in front of him had been a Solo Player for as long as he had.

Kazuto put the game in his backpack, "Will I see everyone else when I log in?"

Agil smirked, "Knowing some of them, they are already in there waiting."

"Then I'd best not let them wait too much longer." Kazuto drained the last of his tea and walked out.

Agil picked up the mug, "Kathy, now do you see what Heathcliff-sama was saying about Kirito maybe being?"

Kathy poked her head out of the kitchen, "Yes, and I sincerely hope that he is right." She took the mug and saucer from her husband, "I just hope we can save Titania-sama before something happens to her."

Kirigaya Residence

Kazuto didn't flinch like he normally did when the door slammed behind him, "I'm back."

"Onii-chan, do you want lunch?"

"No, I'm going to be busy for the next few hours Sugu."

Sugu pouted as she watched him hurry up the stairs to his room, "Onii-chan only ever got this way about her."

Suguha sighed, "It was always Asuna this and Asuna that…" And then they had both gone missing. That damned game!

Kazuto paid his sister no mind as he traveled to his room on autopilot. He dropped his backpack on his bed and pulled his NervGear out of the closet. "One more time," he muttered, opening the case and pulling out the Alfheim cartridge.

He discarded the Sword Art Online cartridge and threw it away, since it was now useless and inserted the Alfheim Online cartridge. Kazuto steeled himself as he slid the helmet on his head and lay down on the bed. 14:30 he took a deep breath, "Link Start!"

Yggdrasil: Control Room

Cardinal jolted as she received the alert, someone new had just logged on! She opened a window and grinned when she saw the user name: Kirito. She shut off the randomizer and built his avatar herself. She knew that voice well.

She spiked his dark Spriggan hair and made his bangs just slightly windswept. Next she checked his stats. "I can't let these stats be reset," His Duel-Wielding would be corrupted in the game, but that would not matter in the end.

His items were already lost; there wasn't anything she could do about that.

Another window caught Cardinal's attention, her amber eyes widened, "Aunt Leafa?" the Sylph was in trouble. Cardinal grit her teeth, "Not on my watch."

She went back to the screen showing her the new player. Cardinal quickly overwrote the code where he would be landing. "Now, let's see what happens."

Forbidden Forest: Near Sylph Territory

Kirito smiled as he watched Muscika the Spriggan Capitol get closer under him. He'd forgotten just how much fun freefalling was. That was before everything around him froze. "What?"

Kirito curled into a ball as he fell into the forest that was now underneath him and spun, somehow coming to a soft landing on his feet. "What the hell was that?" he wondered. Then he shook his head and took a deep breath, "Ok, open menu and check if I can get out or not first…"

Kirito brought his left hand up and swiped down. No menu came up, for a second, Kirito panicked, before trying his other hand. Kirito slumped in relief when it was revealed that the hands had merely been switched. He navigated the menu and let out a breath that he didn't even know he'd been holding when he saw the option to log out.

Kirito pressed it, grinning when it asked if he really wanted to log out. He pressed 'no' then went to look at his new character's parameters. The numbers were familiar and it took him a moment to figure out why. "These are the stats I had in SAO." His data had transferred? Well, that meant that the next logical thing to do was to check his items and inventory. Ok, so Duel-Wielding had disappeared, he could probably still use it, but he'd have to get his hands on a second sword first.

His items and inventory however, weren't salvageable. Kirito sighed, before remembering something, "Yui, please be here." Yes! She was!

In fact, Yui was the only 'thing' in his inventory that wasn't a corrupt mess. He pulled Yui's Heart out and activated her program. When she appeared, he noticed that his daughter looked slightly different, but he ignored it, for the moment. "Yui?"

Yui blinked, her eyes widening slightly when she saw his face, "Papa?"

Kirito nodded, "Yes, it's me."

Yui threw herself into her father's arm, "I missed you Papa."

Kirito wrapped his arms around the small girl in response, "And I missed you, but Yui," he bit the inside of his lip, "Mama hasn't woken up yet."

Yui's eyes widened as tears began to bead in their corners. "Mama, never woke from SAO?"

Kirito shook his head, pulling his daughter closer. There wasn't anything they could do about that, but it shouldn't be too hard to find her here, in this game.

Somewhere on the other side of the mountains between Arrun and the Ancient Forest

A Cait Syth looked up from her hunt, her ears twitching. "Fang," she called her familiar back and a purple Feathered Dragon appeared out of the canopy. "Well, this hunt was a bust," she sighed, "I'd been hoping to bring a Ragout Rabbit home for dinner."

Her bushy cat tail lashed almost angrily. "I wish I could have found that rabbit." She remembered the last time she and her sister Robin had had it.

"Kylie."

Kylie turned, her ears swiveling toward the sound, "Robin, I'm over here."

The silver haired Puca smiled as she stopped next to the Cait Syth, "Are you and Fang ready to go home?"

Kylie nodded, "How did your hunt go?" she asked, following her sister to where Robin's larger pet, a white dragon called Lily waited, tied to a tree.

"I managed to get two Silver Deer, I should be able to sell the bones for some cloth. Our cloaks are starting to look a bit ragged." Robin grimaced, her golden eyes narrowing as she untied Lily's reins. "It's been almost three years since Oberon-sama and Titania-sama disappeared. Heathcliff-sama sent word that he'd found them but…"

Kylie jumped up onto Lily's back. "Yeah, I've heard that she might be trapped at the top of Yggdrasil, in the Floating City."

Robin boosted herself up in front of Kylie, "We won't know anything until we hear from Cardinal-hime to give out that quest." She gave Lily a nudge and Lily launched herself and her riders into the air, heading back to Arrun. I'm just glad that Oberon-sama had the foresight to hide his swords."

"But they need to be retrieved before the Grand Quest can be conquered, right?" Kylie inquired.

"Yes, and we can only give that quest to one person." Robin turned her eyes to the land. "We can only hope he will show up soon."

"I know he will Big Sister," Kylie tried to reassure Robin; "We'll find him in Arrun."

Yggdrasil: Bird Cage

Asuna glared at her reflection as she watched Suguo input the combination to open the door of her cage. How dare he even hint at the idea of cheating on Kirito!

'Indulge in a little fun' Asuna snorted. As if she would even think about doing that with anyone but Kirigaya Kazuto. It may have only been a game, but Asuna already considered herself married to the boy of her dreams. There was a term for that wasn't there?

"Yes," Asuna rose from the bed gracefully, "Kirito-kun and I are in a Common Law marriage. We think of ourselves as married, we don't need any proof."

She gazed out of her prison, over the beautiful land of Alfheim. "Please, hurry, Kirito."

(End)

There, and yes, there's worldbuilding going on. Please don't mind the OCs they are there for the quest I'm planning.
 
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I've seen a lot of people mention Cardinal/Kayaba releasing recordings as part of a story idea, but it doesn't seem like anybody has considered how much story potential that idea has in and of itself. think kind of like the movie "The Truman Show".

This is full sensory, full immersion into the lives of the SAO victims. Their loves, losses, crimes, betrayals, and everyday mundanity put on display with no veil of privacy whatsoever. And of course their deaths too.

Plus in addition tp the raw footage that shatters any idea of privacy for the players, you have Cardinal's curated recordings which weave together various perspectives and time skips to tell compelling stories.


And then the SAO victims finally escape, only to emerge into a world that thinks it knows them and has been watching their every moves for years, With fan clubs and shippers and death threats because of old in-game issues
 
I've seen a lot of people mention Cardinal/Kayaba releasing recordings as part of a story idea, but it doesn't seem like anybody has considered how much story potential that idea has in and of itself. think kind of like the movie "The Truman Show".

This is full sensory, full immersion into the lives of the SAO victims. Their loves, losses, crimes, betrayals, and everyday mundanity put on display with no veil of privacy whatsoever. And of course their deaths too.

Plus in addition tp the raw footage that shatters any idea of privacy for the players, you have Cardinal's curated recordings which weave together various perspectives and time skips to tell compelling stories.


And then the SAO victims finally escape, only to emerge into a world that thinks it knows them and has been watching their every moves for years, With fan clubs and shippers and death threats because of old in-game issues
This is used in the story Apparently Videogames Really Are Bad For Your Brain Chapter 1: Klein, a sword art online/ソードアート・オンライン fanfic | FanFiction.

Though the same story also features a gender-bent Kirito which is a mish-mash of all versions of him - LN, anime, Progressive, Alicization, game, abridged - as well as an Asuna that's more openly snarky (so... combined with her abridged version). It makes things more interesting, though, as the government had thought of her as "the perfect Japanese to look up to," as they didn't read the reports of her personality as closely as they should, so when they publicly streamed Kayaba's purposefully unencrypted player streaming connection... well, shit happens. And a lot more shit will happen as Kirito really don't like publicity and fame - the in-story steaming's comments and fan-arts probably wouldn't help too.
 
SAO/Princess lover! Challenge

Kirito takes the place of Teppei Arima in the PL! universe.
Happens after the ALO Arc. The Next day after Kirito got out Asuna out of her situation.

Finds out his dead Father's Father comes for a visit. Kirito some how (up to the author) get his Grandfather to at least let him stay in the school he is at (collage is another matter).

His Grandfather convinces Kirito to live in a Mansion (more like a small village in a building). And get him ready to take his place.

What happens after that is up to the Author's discretion.

I would totally read this! Just the reaction and expression Asuna's mother would have to the boy she hates Asuna associating with now being an acceptable match would be fun to read (and probably write too). I'd think about doing it, but I've never watched/read Princess Lover to it's conclusion. So I don't know enough about that side of the cross to make this idea properly epic. I'm not sure I even want to try since I've just started trying to write SAO.
 
I would totally read this! Just the reaction and expression Asuna's mother would have to the boy she hates Asuna associating with now being an acceptable match would be fun to read (and probably write too). I'd think about doing it, but I've never watched/read Princess Lover to it's conclusion. So I don't know enough about that side of the cross to make this idea properly epic. I'm not sure I even want to try since I've just started trying to write SAO.
Princess Lover! is on youtube if you want to watch it. Most of the information I have on it comes from the Wiki or reviews on youtube.
 
I have it. It's short too. I have tried to watch it but the Harem Antics are so stupid.

So stupid that they are amusing, of course, substitute Kirito for Teppei and most of that disappears because he already has a common law wife... Then again, Kirito has his own issues.

I've posted my first try at SAO here: Titania and the Spriggan - An SAO Fiction

So that you can decide for yourself if giving me your idea is a good idea or not.

Edit: Broken link fixed.
 
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I'm going to be That Guy and say I completely agree with that video that SAO (and ALO and GGO) is a poorly designed mess.
 
I'm going to be That Guy and say I completely agree with that video that SAO (and ALO and GGO) is a poorly designed mess.
You know this has been talked about and discussed before and the general consensus agrees with you, but the dissenting opinion doesn't think the evidence presented by the general consensus is entirely valid because...

SAO, ALO, and GGO were all designed based on out-dated and now unpopular MMO setups. They were initially designed when the original Everquest was the big thing and that game today? Would probably tank a few months out of the gate because it doesn't have a guided story-line quest like WoW or the many MMOs that game after.

The other big thing is that a lot of people compare the gameplay mechanics to modern MMOs without even giving the sheer difference in interface much thought. After all you're not controlling the game's avatar with a mouse and keyboard or a controller. The avatar is the player's body while they're logged in.

Most of the dissenters of that general consensus agreement would agree that those games would do horribly in today's market because today's market doesn't want those types of games. They just don't think that the games are a "poorly designed mess" because they don't conform to modern game design sensibilities because they're simultaneously reflective of an out-dated design paradigm and of a type of future technology that most have problems truly grasping the full scope of - including shortcomings.
 
You know this has been talked about and discussed before and the general consensus agrees with you, but the dissenting opinion doesn't think the evidence presented by the general consensus is entirely valid because...

SAO, ALO, and GGO were all designed based on out-dated and now unpopular MMO setups. They were initially designed when the original Everquest was the big thing and that game today? Would probably tank a few months out of the gate because it doesn't have a guided story-line quest like WoW or the many MMOs that game after.

The other big thing is that a lot of people compare the gameplay mechanics to modern MMOs without even giving the sheer difference in interface much thought. After all you're not controlling the game's avatar with a mouse and keyboard or a controller. The avatar is the player's body while they're logged in.

Most of the dissenters of that general consensus agreement would agree that those games would do horribly in today's market because today's market doesn't want those types of games. They just don't think that the games are a "poorly designed mess" because they don't conform to modern game design sensibilities because they're simultaneously reflective of an out-dated design paradigm and of a type of future technology that most have problems truly grasping the full scope of - including shortcomings.
And this is why I've been saying that Reki Kawahara and A-1 (Steak Sauce) pictures should have been changing things for a more modern audience. And yes, fans of the original light novel would be bitching and moaning about it but I think that would be more preferable then having legions of people declare it to be the worst anime ever.

And just generally removing the idiot moments that don't come from Kirito or his not-harem would actually make the anime a lot more tolerable.
 
I also want to point out the biggest issue with perception of SAO as a game, and the reality of SAO as envisioned by Kayaba.

Kayaba wasn't really trying to make a game, so things like 1 time ever unique boss drops, bosses that don't respawn, and other odds and ends that would never fly in an actual MMO are really a byproduct of his vision for a fantasy world made real. He didn't want equality among players, he created Unique Classes and treated them like Exaltations, granting them to the best players and only the best players so that they would become heroes. Kirito was simply the first, and because he was found out 15-20 floors earlier than he intended, Kirito was also the last. Some of these features might not even have been like this in the beta, or they expected them to be fixed after the beta.
 
That's very true. But every time I rewatch that episode he seems very pleased that Kirito found him out.
That's because he was. For reasons never adequately explained he'd picked Kirito out to be his chosen 'hero' (more in the greek sense, than the modern, but still) and it's the kind of dynamic reality that he was going for from the beginning.

Sure he probably wouldn't have been unhappy if things had stuck to the script, but he was probably getting bored with the script. And then Kirito, on the heels of the worst boss fight in ages (if not ever) comes charging out of nowhere to reveal him. He honestly could not have planned a better, more dramatic reveal if he'd tried.
 
That's very true. The smug bastard. I want to use that for something I'm doing, how not even we knew that he was Kayaba the first time we watched the reveal. But now I'm realizing just how freaking hard setting that up is! I'm not sure I can.

Oh well, it's not like I can't try again when I have more exp...
 
I also want to point out the biggest issue with perception of SAO as a game, and the reality of SAO as envisioned by Kayaba.

Kayaba wasn't really trying to make a game, so things like 1 time ever unique boss drops, bosses that don't respawn, and other odds and ends that would never fly in an actual MMO are really a byproduct of his vision for a fantasy world made real. He didn't want equality among players, he created Unique Classes and treated them like Exaltations, granting them to the best players and only the best players so that they would become heroes. Kirito was simply the first, and because he was found out 15-20 floors earlier than he intended, Kirito was also the last. Some of these features might not even have been like this in the beta, or they expected them to be fixed after the beta.
Then Reki Kawakara should have had everyone and their mom (except for the noobs) point out all the terrible design choices for Kayaba made.


But that would require both a rewrite and research, and Reki Kawahara can't be bothered to do that.
 
There's at least one decent SAO/Log Horizon fic out there, tho it's by a author who's banned on SB and maybe here.

Anyway...

I'd like (once I get my backlog of writing under control) to do a Log Horizon cross in which Yuuki Konno and the Sleeping Knights end up in Elder Tales and unlike the heroes DO NOT want to go home and actually oppose efforts to 'fix' things...
 
There's at least one decent SAO/Log Horizon fic out there, tho it's by a author who's banned on SB and maybe here.

Anyway...

I'd like (once I get my backlog of writing under control) to do a Log Horizon cross in which Yuuki Konno and the Sleeping Knights end up in Elder Tales and unlike the heroes DO NOT want to go home and actually oppose efforts to 'fix' things...
That I can actually agree with, since she has an incurable illness.
Thing is Yuuki and the rest of the knights are inherently good and nice people. I don't think they'd actively oppose the protagonists, but they might drag their heels on some aspects of it and might not have their whole hearts in searching for ways to go home.

Of course Yuuki being Yuuki she might just march up to Shiro and ask him to try and find a way for the people to choose whether or not to return, and I can't see Shiro being opposed to that since one of Log Horizon's members is actually a paraplegic in real life.
 
There's at least one decent SAO/Log Horizon fic out there, tho it's by a author who's banned on SB and maybe here.

Anyway...

I'd like (once I get my backlog of writing under control) to do a Log Horizon cross in which Yuuki Konno and the Sleeping Knights end up in Elder Tales and unlike the heroes DO NOT want to go home and actually oppose efforts to 'fix' things...
What.

Uh, Log Horizen is less about 'fixing' things to go back and more 'figure out what happened'. Shiro's goal as of the end of season 2 was to find a way to enable transit between the two worlds, and the question of 'how do we get home' is hardly raised for most of the series- no one knows how they got there, so no one has any idea how to get back. The story centers on adjusting to live in the world, not on escaping from it.

Log Horizen at its core is a completely diffrent story then SAO. The apples to oranges comparison is 100% accurate- similar base premise, completely different in almost everything else.
 
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