Wait a minute, is that the same tier as an Armor Truth?
Knight of Wessex (A Written World Quest)
- Thread starter Alectai
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- Original Fantasy Alt. History
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- United States
How much combat value would having a lance in the tournament provide us? I'm trying to judge if it'd give us a substantial boost in what's been told to be a very competitive fight.
Alectai
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Doesn't have the hard Collateral immunity trait, but it does have a soft one, so yes.
Decorations are where the real spice is remains true. Coordinated attacks are super powerful too.
It's more a long term investment, though it'll be hard to grapple you if you're keeping them at lance-length.
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Nevermind, it reduces other denial/rebuke by 2, still fire.
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Alectai
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No, it reduces Rebuke, not adds to it.
That being said, you'd be up to ignoring up to 4 Rebuke between that in Severance, that makes you really good at fighting other Knights too. Tourney Knight Audrey somehow is becoming more real by the day.
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God this is so insane. Four Allies regardless of cultivation type for now, on top of enabling Audrey to apply Alfred's intended Grid Square Deletion doctrine no matter the context.
And this is worse! "Oh yeah, that Damage Reduction? 20 of it no longer counts right off the bat, also you get more Zeal, btw FUCK YOUR DENIAL (up to two levels starting out)"
Absolutely mcfucking insane.
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They also aren't actually used to making armour for horses, which would drive the price back up a bit, probably.
Not quite, they're thematically similar, but the Armour Blessing was better.
Honestly? +10 damage on charge attacks or thereabouts.
The Nails don't add to her Rebuke, they reduce her foes'.
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- his hidden lair
[X] Plan Hold my rock
-[X] Purchase the Warrior Saint's Bell, a Growth Decoration that aids in coordinating allies and subordinates on the field of battle. Granting instinctual knowledge of your actions to up to (Decade) Allies, as well as more general transmission of your will to all allies in earshot. This allows for easy use of coordinated attacks, and raises the bar to suffer from collateral damage considerably. (5 Wealth, will not be available later)
-[X] Purchase the Nail of Martyrs, a Growth Decoration that aids in piercing even the toughest hides, reducing Damage Reduction against your attacks by (Decade x 5), as well as producing (Decade) Zeal per year. Also has an effect on Rebuke and other forms of Denial equal to (Decade/2), stacking with other effects. (3 Wealth, will not be available later)
-[X] Commission a Superior Lance–this is a simple enough project for the artisans in Bornholm, with most of the expense simply in having a material that can regrow when it's inevitably broken. You have a few options with this… (There's plenty of artisans in Bornholm, you'll get another chance before you leave–though certainly not at a discount, so expect a 2 Wealth cost)
--[X] Order it now, with the understanding you'll collect it when you leave (1 Wealth)
-[X] Put in an order for a shipment of Bornholm Shale–this is a Stone Foundation Material that will count as a Resilience material, raising your Damage Reduction by 10 for the cost of 2 Stone Slots. (2 Wealth now–2 more by the time you leave, for 4 total)
-[X] If you really feel you need a little more coin, there's a fair resale market here too… You could sell one of the pieces of equipment you don't need, or potentially unload the full set and maybe get a little extra. Of course, you won't have these to distribute or sell elsewhere later in that case…
--[X] Sell the Runed Helm (+1 Wealth)
--[X] Sell the Superior Mail (+1 Wealth)
This is the same as Chron but puts a down payment on the resilience foundation material in exchange for selling the mail and helm. Lining up a buyer for the helm might be a bit annoying back home. This still keeps the axe as a potential gift or similar, and given we're traveling back with a Norse ship we can't discount an encounter on the trip back.
Edit: Looks pretty certain I was wrong in assuming we probably wouldn't manage much more than 2 wealth for these items individually back in Wessex, and the shale won't rise above 4, but I suppose I can still keep this plan up.
-[X] Purchase the Warrior Saint's Bell, a Growth Decoration that aids in coordinating allies and subordinates on the field of battle. Granting instinctual knowledge of your actions to up to (Decade) Allies, as well as more general transmission of your will to all allies in earshot. This allows for easy use of coordinated attacks, and raises the bar to suffer from collateral damage considerably. (5 Wealth, will not be available later)
-[X] Purchase the Nail of Martyrs, a Growth Decoration that aids in piercing even the toughest hides, reducing Damage Reduction against your attacks by (Decade x 5), as well as producing (Decade) Zeal per year. Also has an effect on Rebuke and other forms of Denial equal to (Decade/2), stacking with other effects. (3 Wealth, will not be available later)
-[X] Commission a Superior Lance–this is a simple enough project for the artisans in Bornholm, with most of the expense simply in having a material that can regrow when it's inevitably broken. You have a few options with this… (There's plenty of artisans in Bornholm, you'll get another chance before you leave–though certainly not at a discount, so expect a 2 Wealth cost)
--[X] Order it now, with the understanding you'll collect it when you leave (1 Wealth)
-[X] Put in an order for a shipment of Bornholm Shale–this is a Stone Foundation Material that will count as a Resilience material, raising your Damage Reduction by 10 for the cost of 2 Stone Slots. (2 Wealth now–2 more by the time you leave, for 4 total)
-[X] If you really feel you need a little more coin, there's a fair resale market here too… You could sell one of the pieces of equipment you don't need, or potentially unload the full set and maybe get a little extra. Of course, you won't have these to distribute or sell elsewhere later in that case…
--[X] Sell the Runed Helm (+1 Wealth)
--[X] Sell the Superior Mail (+1 Wealth)
This is the same as Chron but puts a down payment on the resilience foundation material in exchange for selling the mail and helm. Lining up a buyer for the helm might be a bit annoying back home. This still keeps the axe as a potential gift or similar, and given we're traveling back with a Norse ship we can't discount an encounter on the trip back.
Edit: Looks pretty certain I was wrong in assuming we probably wouldn't manage much more than 2 wealth for these items individually back in Wessex, and the shale won't rise above 4, but I suppose I can still keep this plan up.
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For the record, things like Hama and Armour are not Damage Reduction for this purpose. I think that's clear, but I get paranoid sometimes.
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That was priced higher due to being at a big event, but this would be a lot pricier back home, yeah.
The price changes for the Shale are as listed (ie: it goes from 2 to 4). It won't go higher than that.
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That's … modest, at least at a glance. I guess the real value of a "Superior" Lance comes from its ability to allow various rotes and abilities regarding charges?
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[X] Plan Charge It!
It's 2 Wealth now and 2 more later for the Shale, but unlike everything else it doesn't say if it will be available later. I'm assuming they won't run out of shale so it likely will be available if we somehow win 4 wealth during the tournament. Is that a safe assumption @DeadmanwalkingXI?
edit: Nevermind already answered while I wrote the question:
It's 2 Wealth now and 2 more later for the Shale, but unlike everything else it doesn't say if it will be available later. I'm assuming they won't run out of shale so it likely will be available if we somehow win 4 wealth during the tournament. Is that a safe assumption @DeadmanwalkingXI?
edit: Nevermind already answered while I wrote the question:
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Alectai
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You'll notice I've noted that it'll have a regrowing effect, so you plant it in the dirt overnight and it regrows into a new lance by next morning.
Which means you can reliably use it for massively stacked openers that have "Destroys the weapon" as a condition to make it even spicier.
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It regrowing is very handy for that sort of thing, yeah. But also, it's not a wildly expensive item even back home...what were you expecting? To be clear, that is as compared to your current very powerful magical sword...it'd be more impressive if you had a shitty sword.
They won't run out of Shale, it'll 'just' be more expensive.
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If we get 2 Wealth from the tournament, not taking the Shale now would've just cost us all our gains for the tournament (2 + 2 * 1); 3 Wealth means we trade it for 1 item, and 4 Wealth means getting 2 items for later: How confident are we feeling, and do we know what the reward 'tiers' have historically been?
Yeah, but this is about fucking over monsters and whatnot. So while I don't blame you for that, I'm more hyped hyped hyped about Audrey being able to throw down with Trolls and shit without having to fork over tons of dosh on anti-Denial consumables
Who cares?!
Just the decorations alone make coming here worthwhile! Coming here for Audrey to get her ass beat as the price of entry for picking up *decent* Decorations at a bargain was always the sell to begin with.
Leaving broke as fuck with a total of two extremely good Growth type decorations, a Cheap Resilience Material for Audreys Foundation going into Fifth Decade and a better than average Lance isn't just a bargain its basically highway robbery! So long as Audrey can walk away from this island intact with all that loot in hand, then burning every other bit of wealth she scraped together between the Wessex Tournament and now is an outlandish fucking bargain!
[X] Plan Charge It!
The Bell would be useful when Audrey has to use a martial style that lacks the ability to work with no FF of Albert's reforms. Also helps with leading troops in general.
The Shale saves 1 slot and is something we absolutely want to pick up for 4 wealth barring something truly crazy later on in the markets. Since it isn't going to get cheaper anywhere else imo.
The Bell would be useful when Audrey has to use a martial style that lacks the ability to work with no FF of Albert's reforms. Also helps with leading troops in general.
The Shale saves 1 slot and is something we absolutely want to pick up for 4 wealth barring something truly crazy later on in the markets. Since it isn't going to get cheaper anywhere else imo.
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The prizes stop being mere money pretty quickly at a tournament like this. The prize for one win is 3 Wealth, and then it becomes escalating cool items and favors from Ironjaw depending on how far you get.
Of course, cool items can then be sold, potentially.
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Ah, so unless we roll one of those Built Different folks at the first battle, its guaranteed we'll be able to afford that foundation material later then? Good to know!
Also, I see Pride had to very much work overtime in this moment?
Alectai
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The first two rounds, at least, I feel safe in explaining the prizes.
Round 1 is Three Wealth, enough coin for someone to settle down comfortably anywhere in the world, or secure some very nice duds for more ambitious acts.
Round 2 is a single item of choice from Bornholm's forges. Generally Superior/Grand quality, the kind of stuff a skilled Journeyman using their infrastructure can do, but not quite on the level of what a Master could forge.
The prizes rapidly improve from there.
That being said, don't expect victory to be a given. This is an international level tournament, nobody here is weak, and you might end up losing in the first round if you fuck up, though you probably won't run into one of the Hard Stops then.
You need good luck just to have a chance, and the odds of running into a Hard Stop increase the further you go. But even if you don't, the quality of the opposition is going up and up every round.
Round 1 is Three Wealth, enough coin for someone to settle down comfortably anywhere in the world, or secure some very nice duds for more ambitious acts.
Round 2 is a single item of choice from Bornholm's forges. Generally Superior/Grand quality, the kind of stuff a skilled Journeyman using their infrastructure can do, but not quite on the level of what a Master could forge.
The prizes rapidly improve from there.
That being said, don't expect victory to be a given. This is an international level tournament, nobody here is weak, and you might end up losing in the first round if you fuck up, though you probably won't run into one of the Hard Stops then.
You need good luck just to have a chance, and the odds of running into a Hard Stop increase the further you go. But even if you don't, the quality of the opposition is going up and up every round.
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