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Echo of Choice (A Destiny Plan Quest)

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KingCrimson1081 said:
The Hive won't be able to dig into the moon because we will have already hollowed it out.
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Yeah, about that… I yet to determine when the Hive where on the moon as there are conflicting entries on the when they appeared on the moon.
Some say after the Collapse, and others say before the Collapse.

At the very least, there is something in the moon already as the K1 anomaly artifact (the thing that will tell Clovis to find the Darkness statue in Europa) was already in the moon before the Traveler came to us.

Speaking of Europa, need confirmation on something:
How many phases and total DC should it take to transform ChatGPT (at this point the source code should be open source) into a UNSC Dumb AI?
 
edboy49 said:
Speaking of Europa, need confirmation on something:
How many phases and total DC should it take to transform ChatGPT (at this point the source code should be open source) into a UNSC Dumb AI?
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Currently looking at IRL development of AI the fact it so energy intensive that major tech companies need to build nuclear power plant to sufficiently power the damn thing meant that even a dumb one would have around a total DC of 900 with 3 separate phases.
 
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edboy49 said:
Yeah, about that… I yet to determine when the Hive where on the moon as there are conflicting entries on the when they appeared on the moon.
Some say after the Collapse, and others say before the Collapse.

At the very least, there is something in the moon already as the K1 anomaly artifact (the thing that will tell Clovis to find the Darkness statue in Europa) was already in the moon before the Traveler came to us.

Speaking of Europa, need confirmation on something:
How many phases and total DC should it take to transform ChatGPT (at this point the source code should be open source) into a UNSC Dumb AI?
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Lets see

>improve the architecture so it trains more efficiently (less raw data more actual self reflection)
>improve the hardware so it can process MORE (needs a few servers worth of specialized chips as well GPUs)
>less energy comsuption (this days you need a couole nuclear reactors to train a large actually innovating model)
>solve moral alignment (you dont want your AI to turn 4chan racist or paperclip maximizer that will destroy the earth to get raw mayerials for its paperclips)

Thats a few orders of magnitude of effort

So we are esentially in the early 50s of computing and you are asking how much effort will take us to reach the equivalent of the smartphone

1K to 5K?

But done in phases wich each phase giving bonuses benefits?
 
edboy49 said:
At the very least, there is something in the moon already as the K1 anomaly artifact (the thing that will tell Clovis to find the Darkness statue in Europa) was already in the moon before the Traveler came to us.
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Well in that case:

www.google.com

Moon's Haunted

Moon's Haunted is a catchphrase based on a tweet. It has since been associated with discussions about the video game Destiny 2, which features plot points
www.google.com www.google.com
We are going in loud people.
 
Twiggierjet said:
Sorry, I never played destiny beyond the original demo for destiny 1, who is Clovis and why do we need to kill him ASAP?
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Rich bloke. Betrayed humanity to team up with bug people. We shouldn't kill him asap because we aren't going military, but we'll probably cook the moon and him like a hot potato mid gold age.
Silvis said:
I think the best comparison would be.

He's the in universe equivalent of a Chaos cultist?
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I think a tyranid genestealer cultist would be more accurate do to the nature of the hive.
 
KingCrimson1081 said:
Well in that case:

www.google.com

Moon's Haunted

Moon's Haunted is a catchphrase based on a tweet. It has since been associated with discussions about the video game Destiny 2, which features plot points
www.google.com www.google.com
We are going in loud people.
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Should we Go loud with a Army of Spartan Equivilents (For the Halo Fans) Or that one VERY VERY Dangerous Security Cyborg? (For all those Marathon fans that still exist?)
 
Cyberphilosipher said:
Should we Go loud with a Army of Spartan Equivilents (For the Halo Fans) Or that one VERY VERY Dangerous Security Cyborg? (For all those Marathon fans that still exist?)
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We should go loud with a sizeable metal alloy cord megastructure cooking pouch and mass produced thermal charges to create a baked potato like effect.

As for Clovis, mass produced drones to track him until he locates that statue, and then a sort of mobile space robot trash collector to scoop him and the statue up and transport them to the surface of the sun.
Cyberphilosipher said:
We kinda need the moon man, for housing if nothing else.
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We need the moon, but the is nothing that says we can't bake it like a potato and shape it to our liking in the aftermath.
 
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    • [X] Plan Judgement Day...Has Been Averted???
      -[X] [AMERICA] The Annexation of Canada by diplomacy and Mexico by force following Mexico's descent into anarchy following an unprecedented rise in criminal elements and government corruption which had begun to spill across borders.
      -[X] [NAME] Skynet Manufacturing
      -[X] [SPECIALITY] Manufacturing
      -[X] [AGE] Established, normal.
      -[X] [ART100] Yes
      -[X] [RANGE] 1-3=98-100
      -[X] [RESULT] Adds 1d100/removes one dice if more than one is used
      [X] Plan: Cyberpunk future
      -[X] [AMERICA] The desperate union of Canada, US and Mexico to stabilize their nations after a series of bad events.
      -[X] [NAME] Alphabet-Nvidia
      -[X] [SPECIALITY] Artificial Intelligence
      -[X] [AGE] Established, giant.
      -[X] [ART100] No
      -[X] [RANGE] 1-3=98-100
      -[X] [RESULT] Adds +30/-30 to the result.
      [X] Plan: All Hail El Presidente!
      -[X] [AMERICA] Following widespread anarchy and economic depression, Mexico, the only American country to turn its fortunes around and establish an upright and robust government and strong economy, annexed both Canada and the US, the latter primarily through force after unwarranted aggression by corrupt politicians.
      -[X] [NAME] Tropico Enterprise of Progressive Industrial Development (TEPID)
      -[X] [SPECIALITY] Manufacturing
      -[X] [AGE] Just made
      -[X] [ART100] Yes
      -[X] [RANGE] 1-5=95-100
      -[X] [RESULT] Finished the entire phase/drops the DC back to zero even it would be finished in the same turn.
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    • Okay, so a company that manufactures computer stuff if the name you voted is any indication.
    Now, unfortunately my laptop is still in the shop, so barring the doddles I do on a notepad, I can't write.
    Maybe I will be lucky and they finish it before Friday.
     
    Twiggierjet said:
    Sorry, I never played destiny beyond the original demo for destiny 1, who is Clovis and why do we need to kill him ASAP?
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    >paracausal: that wich bypasses normal logic/order (first comes action/intent,then the universe retro actively modifies itself to fit the changes,action before cause)

    >light: paracausal force that encourage cooperation,growth,and shapes the material world

    >darkness: paracausal force that encourages self reliance,competition and shapes the abstract/mental realm

    >exo: mechanical body on wich you make brain transfer

    >vex: a hivemind composed by organisms whose minds are uploaded in a liquid a substrate/liquid,they usually use mechanical bodies as sleeves/puppets to pilot

    >radiolara: the liquid substrate where vex minds are house

    >clovis: super billionare,super genius,obssesed with being the savior of the world,god complex,entitlement,control freak

    >witness: a demigod-esque entity hivemind result of a entire race committing ritual suicide and joining their minds through the darkness

    >veiled figures: statues that are darkness artifact, houses a conciousness from the witness collective,is esentially jail/time out for parts of the witness that insist on keeping their individuality or oppose his goal ,to ensure they dont intervene without having to break the hivemind and lose power

    >clarity control: a veiled figure on the moon of europa

    >k1: a paracausal artifact of darkness that serves as a comm link to the witness,also causes insanity by exposure

    clovis company found K1,clovis interacted with it and had vissions
    the visions showed him there was a veiled figure in the europa moon,so he went in with a expedition,in there he found 2 things

    >clarity control
    >vex

    the thing with clovis is that

    1) he wants to be LUCA (Last Universal Common Ancestor) aka,become the foundation of almost all of mankind progress,so humanity always goes back to his legacy and say "yeah tech X was developed from something clovis did,so did tech B,A,Y etc...)

    2) he is unwilling to acknowledge others needs,feelings or share credit/cooperate

    he thought "man i can copy this vex mind upload thingy and become inmortal as well leave the legacy of defeating death",and then discovered "oh...the vex minds fight back and radiolara corrupts the body untill it turns into vex"
    then discovered "oh but if i dose it with darkness energy it kills the vex minds,leaving the substrate empty to allow someone else to be uploaded....lets call this formatted substract 'ALKAHEST' and those uploaded will be called ''exominds'' "

    he then discovered "oh man,uploading minds in a robot body tends to make them develop body dysmorphia and damage their mental health untill they go insane"

    so to adress this Disociative exo disorder or DER

    >reset/mindwipe every once in a while so they go back to a pre-DER stage
    >make the exo bodies imitate human behaviors (eat,breathing,human proportions etc)


    I sulk in isolation as the crew works. My pride is wounded. Did I expect
    Clarity to come out and greet me? "Hail to Clovis Bray, first among men?"
    Yes, absolutely, I did! The lunar artifact promised me a solution to the
    indifference of the cosmos. It told me I was unlike all others—and, damn
    false modesty, damn vanity, I am different! Not for my present qualities,
    but for my future influence. I shine with noon's light, reflected back
    through time to this age of dawn.

    I'm going to be the LUCA of all interstellar human civilization.

    It is a mistake to imagine that the Greatest Man, the God-Emperor of
    History and Ruler of Circumstances whose influence reaches to the end
    of time, will live in the future—in the full flowering of human glory. That
    man lives NOW, at the tiny bottleneck before the vast explosion, when it is
    still possible for an individual's decisions to touch the entire species and set
    the course of all future choice.

    Self-maintenance so absolute that it becomes a static loop? Investigate.
    I said all this in my book, but my son's book still sells better. I suppose
    because Clovis Points is a much more approachable title than Competitive
    Immortality Through Primogeniture of Future-History Ontogeny/Rephylogeny
    (PFHOR)    . My son's work appeals to those intellectual infants in the
    retronationals, and to the parasites on Common Compassion support.

    Obviously they prefer the softened, pre-chewed version of the truth. And
    there is also that bump of public sympathy for a dead man...

    Yet I cannot deny that, in simplifying my legacy, my son has improved its
    reach. He was the one to formulate the famous two-sentence summary
    of PFHOR: "Most of our energy should be spent in support of the things
    that are most like us. This is the only true responsibility of any living
    thing." And the slightly less famous addendum: "The best way to spend
    energy is on things that make more things like us."

    Children are viral replicators of our ideas. But there is a certain terror about
    them. They alter our legacy, mutate it—as Clovis II modified Competitive


    Immortality Through PFHOR into Clovis Points. What if my children
    decide on some key amendment, some ineffable change, which makes my
    legacy no longer mine? How can I be reborn through the eternal recurrence
    of my life-logic if what my children pass down is the logic of some other
    Clovis, some flawed copy...just as Clovis II was a flawed image of me?

    A flaw that I created in my clumsy eagerness to make him flawless.

    My second-boldest decision during my son's development was to replace
    Clovis II's mitochondrial DNA, normally inherited from the mother,
    with my own. I had to know that I was in his cellular engines, powering
    his existence.

    It was not that change which killed him.

    But it is the fear of being replaced by a faulty duplicate that will kill me, if I
    put off my brain upload much longer.

    I have a library of scanned volunteers aboard Hannu, but my own
    consciousness is not among them. A Moravec upload is slow and inadequate;
    what if there are quantum-informatic elements to the mind not captured
    by such crude mechanical means? No. I insist on that perfect, terminal
    quantum snapshot. For reasons of fidelity, the only perfect and lossless brain
    scan is also a destructive one. A fatal one.

    Clovis II died in one, after all. I made the
    vessel to recieve him, but I lacked the Alkahest, the solvent to render it pure.
    But I dare not make the leap to a new body until I know that body works.
    And so far, the exobodies are universally fatal.

    I must finish the exobody work to become the LUCA. The one true divinity of man.

    To do that, I need Clarity.

    And Clarity is here. All the signs point to it.

    If I succeed—no forgiveness for those
    tight-fisted Ishtar tools. I know they had working prototypes.
    They could have shared.


    CORPOREAL STATUS:
    • Body at 35.5 C. Pulse 30 BPM, strength modest. BP 90 over 60. Resp 6 breaths/minute. Pulse ox 140, to reduce free radicals and peroxynitrite.
    • Today's blood mix is pure perfluorocarbon with new modified monocytes.
    • New kidneys functioning well. Donor pig sacrificed, brined, prepared as seared pork chops.
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    clovis is A class asshole,he toyed with their family genetics so they are as close to him as possible regardless of collateral
    see the ideas for making up to his grandaugther elsie (he asks chat gpt for "personal gift that show he cares" lmao)
    Elisabeth's birthday approaches. A good gift would be an olive branch.
    Never let her say I do not try. Hannu, please identify a gift that only could
    come from my own intimate and personal knowledge of my granddaughter.



    GIFT SUGGESTIONS:
    • Antique weapon, or Twin Eagle replica.
    • Professional pilot trained on Eon-series ship.
    • Bespoke AI writer of personalized novels.
    • Fruit basket, Titan farmed.
    • Humanitarian investment (minefield clearance, long-term reparations, anti-traumatic medicine).
    These are pathetic, Hannu.

    REVISED GIFT SUGGESTIONS:
    • Research endowment, medical (prion diseases in persons with immune resistance to recombinant gene therapy).
    • Research endowment, medical (sporadic fatal insomnia).
    • Research endowment,psychological (loss of father, family trauma).
    • Research endowment, psychological (reconstruction of trust after Loss).
    • Personal apology, unpracticed (death of patient in physician's care).
    • Statement of grief, unpracticed (death of son).
    Never mind, Hannu. Buy a few doghives for a soil reclamation project
    somewhere. Honeybees, whatever strain is best. And big friendly
    Newfoundlands for the hives. Everyone loves doghives.
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