THE INFINITE BROOD (Starcraft/Supreme Commander Crossover Quest!)

THE SWARM SHEET
The Brood of Blades
Cerebrate Prime: Samantha Clarke
LEVEL: 5
XP: 205/210
TRAITS
Strategic Genius: Once per structured encounter, Sam can create a piece of the environment that is in her favor as a sticky spark. Roll a d3 for its value.
Empathetic: upon meeting an NPC, learn their motivation!
Legendary Commander: Gain 4 Command sparks at the beginning of each mission/combat. Command sparks may be spent to give NPCs orders, which they may either obey or refuse to obey (doing nothing instead.) Command sparks may not be regained via skills or powers.
Hunted: Something wants her - but for what? +1 Danger to all scenes​
SKILLS
CLOSE COMBAT (2): Brawling, Edged Weapons
PERSONAL (2): Awareness, Resilience
SOCIAL (4): Charm, Empathy, Leadership, Taunt​
MASTERY
ACU Pilot (2): Nanofabrication [Mass], ObSat Operations [Range]
The Hilt (4): Biomorphic Spawning (People), Regeneration (Durability), Physical Perfection (Speed), Telepathic Dominion (Range)​

POWERS
The Living Swarm
Vent: 4-0
Effect: Gain 1 Living Swarm spark, +1 per vent reduction.​
The Living Swarm: While this swarm exists, move in three dimensions and through anything smaller than a keyhole, reforming at will. You may expend these sparks to cause 3 Hit Sparks in a Area 2 radius.​
Area Upgrade: +1 to Area Characteristic​

Biomorphic Reinforcement
Vent: 4-0
Effect: Create 1 Biomorphic Reinforcement spark, +1 per vent reduction, which can be given out to anyone within Range 2, or to yourself
Biomorphic Reinforcement: +1 to Damage or Mass characteristic for the purpose of raw physical strength/feats.

Back to Back
Vent: 4-0
Effect: Choose 1 ally (+1 per vent reduction), within Range 1. Each can take one action using one of your skills, any of them that you wish. Once they have done so, you may make a free attack with your melee weapon, getting +1 to your skill per ally that acted.​

Adaptation
Vent: 4-0
Effect: Create a number of sparks equal to the enemy's difficulty, narratively based on turning their abilities against them. Works on enemies of Diff 2>, +2 per vent reduction.​

Just as Planned…
Vent: 6-0
Effect: Vent 6 heat and create 1 Planning Spark for her or an ally, +1 Spark per vent reduction.​
Planning: The person holding this Spark can expend this to get +1 to a skill check as a free action. Using this Stack counts as you are helping for the purpose of relationships.​

GEAR
Zeratul's Psi-Blades
Adds: +0 (Edged Weapons) | Characteristics: Damage [Speed] (4)[1]​
Shadowstep (3): Can expend as a free action to move without crossing intervening space.
Guarded Space (3): Can expend to use Damage as a secondary characteristic for Durability, reducing incoming Damage characteristics.​

GALACTIC WAR
Victory Points: 5
RESOURCES
TERRAN DOMINION [Background] (1)​
The men and material of the Dominion - limited, but they're mustering as we speak.
ALLIANCE EXPEDITIONARY FORCES [Mastery] (1)​
While you have access to several ACUs of every faction, they lack economic and technological support to be fully effective.
ZERG HIVE [Mastery] (1)​
The scant few Zerg you control that are free of Amon's influence. Mostly Zerglings.
AEON FLEET [Background] (1)​
While half a dozen CZARs seem impressive, they're not actually well made for ship to ship combat.
ALLIED COHESION [Motivation] (1)​
The alliance is fragile and weak.

FRONTS
Trade Sector-34-51 [Pirate Activity]
Pirates Raiding 6 (Supply Lines in Disarray 1)
COMMAND: Jim Raynor | ARMY: Raynor's Raiders
RESULTS: Pending

Braxis [Zerg Invasion]
Borealis Siege 6 (Zerg Rampage1)
COMMAND: General Samantha Clarke | ARMY: Brood Clarke
RESULTS: Pending

Typhan II [Active Xel'Naga ACU]
Typhan II Occupied 6 (Xel'Naga ACU Spotted 1)
COMMAND: Lt. Colonel Mathew Horner | ARMY: UEF Armored Command Unit
RESULTS: Pending

Deep Space Sector 981 [Hive Fleet Identified]
Zerg Hive Fleet Spotted 6 (Kerrigan? 1)
COMMAND: Citizen-Commander Dostya | ARMY: CN Armored Command Unit
RESULTS: Pending
ENEMY ASSETS (Currently Known)
THE GOLDEN ARMADA
ACTIVITY: Unknown | Threat Level: 6​
 
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Okay, here's my hot take for the day: I get why Selendis, the new and cool character is possessed by Amon in Legacy of the Void, and I think it's actually a good idea. The only problem is that Amon is boring and sucks, so doing it doesn't work.

The idea is this: you need to care.

Amon has taken over huge swaths of the Protoss, and threatens the galaxy. Big stakes! But it's hard to emotionally invest in planets and solar systems. It is easy to go "That dick has stolen my cool friend and is taunting me with her puppeteered body" - and if Amon didn't suck, that'd work a lot better.
I think LotV has a similar issue for me as the Mass Effect 3 storyline on that behalf. Both of them frontload the plot with this big and dramatic catastrophe, whether that is Amon taking over the entirety of the Golden Armada and most of the remaining Protoss race by extension, or the Reapers landing on Earth itself!!!!!
But then they both fail to do a whole lot with it that is emotionally impactful to me at least. We don't care about enough individual Protoss, and our opponents in the campaign are generally too generic to really feel the sting of having to fight and potentially kill the friends we've been hanging out with for the last two campaigns (because we didn't, and the only one that's been around in both campaigns dies in the opening cutscene). Similarly in ME3 we get a few emails from Hackett about the resistance fighting on Earth, but very little that produces any kind of appropriately scaled emotional response to the fact that the planet is burning and everyone is dying.
Even more: they don't even use Selendis consistently as a mouthpiece for Amon. Iirc (and the wiki is to be believed) we only see her on Aiur at the start and the end of the campaign, instead we get the same thing via Rohana in between when she decides that she can totes take it and needs to hold out as long as possible for dramatic effect.
Also: Whoah, a Blizzard game with a plot focused on corruption and mind control?!? Say it ain't so! :V
Like, I don't want to come off too negative here, I still had fun playing through the campaign and everything, but the LotV story beats really don't work for me overall and I'd have structured it quite differently I think.
 
Mass Effect's problem was inconsistency with what kind of core rules and ideas they wanted in the story from the start of the first game, exacerbated by being bought by EA, inconsistency with the first game's excellent portrayal of the reapers, siloing writing of various planets and storylines leading to massive tonal inconsistencies between the good (Rannok and Tuchunka) vs. the bad (Cerberus, Earth, the Child, the Finale).

Blizzard's is that they're an art company first and foremost. They want to set up cool scenes and have cool stuff happen, but deeper planning and writing isn't usually done or cared about.

While I like what they've done w/ gameplay & accessibility for their RTS (it's much better and I enjoy building an army now), they could have done better with all three by hiring a good writer to write the majority of the story w/ the tone they wanted and it'd have been much better. If anything, minor additions or changes could have done a lot.
 
Adhoc vote count started by DragonCobolt on Apr 17, 2024 at 9:01 PM, finished with 41 posts and 21 votes.


REJOICE MY CHILD, FOR YOU WILL BE IMMORTAL IN MY LIGHT
 
ACT THREE, MISSION ONE: Among the Black Day (0.1)
You wanted to be you.

"I want to be me..." You reached up towards Sarah. She took your hand and nodded, then lifted her head.

"We're not changing her."

"We can't risk that! The Xel'Naga-"

"There's a Way. Don't worry." Sarah smiled down at you.

Your eyes closed.

***
Time passed.

You woke, at last, with a groan, your head throbbing. It felt like there were a thousand ghostly whispers trying to slide into your mind, pressing against your temples. Your hand went to either side of your head - and you groaned as you sat up, slowly. You were laying in a large, silvery chamber. Everything was smooth, rounded, and the table beside your bed floated without being attached to the floor. There was a glass of water and a small bundle of greenish fabric. You were naked, but there were several small disks attached to your body - on your arms, shoulders, back. You felt those first, touching them.

The disks came off your body, one by one, slipping away from your skin and skimming away into the air. Your eyes widened as you saw them stacking up against the wall, then retreating into it, flowing through the metal like it was water. Your hand went to your hair. Spines. You looked down at your arm. Pale green, with carapace.

What had you been thinking?

I want to be me...

You frowned. "Painkillers..." you muttered, but you knew it was a lie, bald faced.

You stood up, naked, and rubbed the back of your neck. The strange green fabric, when you unfurled it, turned out to be what you recognized from a screen and intelligence reports: A crusader jumpsuit, the kind that those...fanatics in the Aeon Illuminate wore. Your lips pursed and you sighed. "I'm about to learn a lot about them, aren't I?" you asked, then started to tug the clothes on. You weren't about to meet your second Queen buck ass naked.

The clothing skimmed onto you and tightened, fitted, shifted. It didn't reveal as much as you'd have thought - there was padding and sockets mounted across it for fitting into an Aeon ACU. But as you felt it shifting on you like those fancy nanosuits that had been all the rage about a decade ago on Earth, the door chimed. You sighed, then squared your shoulders.

"Enter."

The door opened and...Princess Rhianna Burke entered the chamber. Without the haze of painkillers, you...could see almost why you'd mistaken her for Sarah. She was incredibly femme, with delicate cheekbones, kissable lips, a narrow and delicate nose. But her hair was brown and her eyes were far too sad to be Sarah's.

Sarah never got sad, exactly. Not without getting mad too.

You nodded to her. "Princess," you said.

"General," she said, her voice soft. "I'm glad you are awake. Sadly, we're going to need to be quite close to one another for the time being."

You noticed something. The whispering was...

Not gone.

But distant.

You rubbed your neck slowly. "I guess this is going to take some explaining, huh?"

"Quite a lot," she said, then grinned ever so slightly. "If it helps, I've gotten this down to a expositionary science. And unlike General Hall and Dr. Brackman, you've already seen it."

"Seen...what?" you asked.

"The Infinite Empire," she said, simply.

You focused on it. Drew closer.

Then for a single flashing moment, you saw something - a shadow of a shadow, slipping through mines. The shadow didn't move with feet, it rippled between space-time like an eel, slithering across physical space in a between-world that you could almost see...a membrane of pure darkness stretched over an infinite glittering light. And every time they risked that step, the light focused, drew in, the sense of danger was overwhelming. The light, though. The light was amazing. You looked at the bottom of the membrane, like peering into the bottom of a ecotour boat.

It was like looking into a cathedral made of mirrors - an infinite reflection of more and more brilliant light. It was beautiful. And...cold.

And then something noticed you.


You blinked, the flash of memory so intense that it shook you. "...start talking."

"Come," she said. "I'll show you to the bridge of the CZAR 1." She quirked her lips. "Apparently, our cousins in the Koprulu Sector name their starships. Such a strange custom."

"It's...grown on me," you admitted.

***
"They're called the Xel'Naga," Burke said, her voice soft as the elevator hummed up the shaft in the center of the vast, circular starship. "The scripture says they rule an infinite empire, sprawling universe after universe. This is...inaccurate." Her lips quirked up. "It's closer to three or four. And they don't rule entire universe. As you are well aware, habitable planets are rare and terraforming is difficult. A single sentient species can claim an entire galaxy in remarkably short order, on the celestial timescale. But then we run into issues of scale. What do you do when every world is tapped and the energy emissions of every star in a galaxy still can't bridge the vastness of space between galaxies."

"...you enjoy yourself?" you asked, mirthlessly.

"Empires don't survive on stasis," Burke said, quietly. "There's always a need for more resources. More slaves."

You looked away, watching the silvery elevator shaft passing by with a quiet, susurrating hum.

"The Xel'Naga found that the barrier between dimensions was vastly easier to pierce. And so, they came to their next Milky Way to conquer. It was a bloodbath. A millennia and a half of endless slaughter. And so, the next time, they grew craftier. They found ways to tune the dimensional equations - to arrive in the Void between universes. Where time is programmable, variable. Controllable."

The elevator stopped and the bridge stretched around you - a circular bay of silvery metal and sheer glass. Through it, you could see dozens of other CZAR ships floating in space, arrayed with battlecruisers, transport ships, and the trusty, plucky old E1. Aeon officers glowered at you from a distance as Burke led you to a railing, to look out into space.

"The next time was handled better. Their agents lurked in the Void and shaped the evolution of selected species. They crafted the perfect weapons for their invasions - essence..." She held her hand out. "...and form. Genetic variability and psionic potential, both in hive minds that can be centralized and controlled."

You frowned. "The Protoss and the Zerg."

"From what I've managed to discover, they're not the first one. The Quel'dorei and the Gul'danians, the Voshren and the Sha'dyian, the...the names are meaningless, aren't they?" She chuckled, softly. "Sorry. I've been devlving into ancient lore so long, I forget not everyone has the same academic interests." She breathed in, then pushed herself up a bit by her palms. "What matters is the system is the same. Craft their races, turn them into weapons, use them as a way to form a bridge head, annihilate all resistance. Expand."

"What about us?" you asked.

"We're one of the wild cards," Burke said, smirking slightly. "They crop up once in a while. A race that doesn't quite measure up to their requirements, but isn't so easily disregarded. Our destruction was to be via plague. A biogenic weapon, designed by scientists who sacrificed decades of their life by traveling from the Void to our galaxy. You see, in the Void, centuries, millennia, it can pass in a heartbeat. To come here is to live as we do. And even for the Xel'naga, it's quite a choice."

You frowned slowly. "...Seraphim II," you whispered. "Colonel Trent."

"Colonel Trent and the United Earth Empire did not find a Xel'naga colony by accident. They were lured there to give the Xel'naga everything they ever wanted," Burke said, her eyes flashing. "Colonel Trent survived fifteen minuets before a Xel'naga agent named Duran had killed him, impersonated him, and instituted a quarantine."

"Studying human captives to wipe us out," you said, turning your back on the railing. "And your great-great-great grandmother..."

Burke chuckled. "She did what we Burkes have always done, General. She used her words. We...the name...of the Xel'naga researchers she spoke to is lost. General Amon and Duran slaughtered them. But in the uprising, we my ancestor learned the truth. And she crafted a solution. A weapon. The Way. A psychic method to purge Xel'naga influence."

Your scowled. "Then what the fuck has your people been doing the past thousand years?"

The princess looked ashamed. Her hands twisted. "One in every ten million humans has psychic potential. Though, apparently, that's fixable." She cast you a wry look. "The Way became a religion. Religion became...intolerance. Intolerance became...war." She hung her head forward. "I've spent my life, struggling to learn what I know. To find these scraps of truth, to wring out of ancient books and corrupted data-files some semblance of reality! And now...now, no one believed me until it was too late!"

You sighed, quietly.

It all fell solidly into place.

Except...

"What about Sarah?" you asked.

"I have no idea," Princess Burke said, shaking her head. "She could be anywhere as part of Amon's forces."

"No, I mean how does she fit into these fucker's plans?" you growled, quietly.

"I'm...not sure," she admitted.

You frowned, slowly, then tightened your grip. "Princess Burke, who is your highest ranked military officer?"

She stood, slowly, then squared her shoulders. "You are."

You almost tripped, despite standing perfectly still. "W...me?" you asked. "What about High General Kael?"

"She, along with a significant portion of the Illuminate military have defected to General Amon in the wake of my...opening up Aeon Illuminate gate networks to the UEF," Princess Burke said, her voice soft. "...it was the only way to save...anyone from Earth."

You did sag now.

"...what happened to Earth?" you whispered.

***
The map of the galaxy flared like a cancer scan on a world without a medcenter. Earth was a red circle, and radiating red lines shot out from it to every major UEF colony. Cybran space was buckled, and the green of the Aeon Illuminate had become crosshatched with orange lines, indicating newly minted Aeon Order's control. Purple, spreading splotches and burnished brass markers for subverted Zerg hive clusters and Protoss fleets. Engagement markers along the entire spinward boarder between the Koprulu Sector and the rest of the milky way. The circular table had people from five armies and, counting you and Cr, three species.

Four, actually. Depending on how you counted yourself.

"Two billion dead and our homeworld has been turned into a Xel'Naga stronghold. That gate of their is bringing in Xel'naga ACUs as fast as they can - Amon has been joined by half a dozen of his subordinates," General Hall snarled, his mustache bristling. "The Cybran and Aeon have both fallen into civil war at the same exact moment, and not one but three alien species are romping through human space. It's a goddamn disaster out there, and my best general is...is..." He turned to you.

"Zergified," you said, dryly.

Cr, who sat on his haunches beside you, churred and chittered happily.

"And you brought a goddamn dog into the meeting room!" Hall snapped. "What the fuck am I supposed to do with ANY of this!?"

"Now, hold your horses, General Hall," Jim Raynor said. "Lets see what we do got to work with. You have my boys-"

"Oh, a platoon of colonial pirates," Hall said.

"You have Major Horner and his ACUs."

Hall grunted. "Major Horner's services have been...exemplary."

"You have the Nerazim," Jim said, nodding to Zeratul.

And I as well! Fenix boomed from beside him. You shook your head.

"How the hell did Burke get you?" you asked.

Tis a simple matter - my connection to the Khala is weak and pitiful compared to the mighty, virile thread that ran through my mind before my wounding! Fenix said, his voice grace. It kept me from the vile Amon's grasp until I reached the protection of an Aeon ship.

You nodded as Jim kept ticking off on his fingers. "And then we got Dostya and her Cybran boys."

"Dr. Brackman has made himself quite comfortable," Dostya said, nodding gravely. "The three ACUs are...less than I'd wish."

"That's less than twenty five percent of known Cybran assets!" Hall snapped. "The rest of them..." He shook his head, sighing.

"I wasn't the one who activated a quantum super weapon that allowed a hyper-advanced alien empire to invade our galaxy," Dostya said, cooly.

"There's one thing you're missing, Jim," you said. "We have another upside: Sarah Kerrigan ripped that bastard Duran's heart out. Apparently, he was one of Amon's best agents."

"There is that, too!" Jim said, nodding. "I've been in long odds before. This might be the longest I've ever seen, honestly. But we still got cards to play and, by hell, I say we play em. According to that Princess there...these Xel'Naga have been kicking over galaxies for millions of years. I say it's time we show 'em what for."

Hall stuck his tongue into his cheek, considering. He grunted. "True." He said, quietly. "And, hell. I'd rather go down swinging."

You nodded, slowly. "If we're going to run this, I need to be in command. I want total authority for this...alliance."

Everyone regarded you.

"I'm in," Jim said, without hesitation.

As am I! Fenix said.

Zeratul inclined his head. He seemed...more somber. Sadder. As if he had seen something slip between his fingers. You knew the exact feeling. Your hand stroked Cr's head, while Hall sighed, then nodded as well. "The UEF chain of command is shot to hell, but you have seniority. And President Riley..." His face looked shadowed. "His last order was...if possible...to give you this." He reached into his vest, and took out a medal box. You took it. You didn't open it. You held it, and felt the bitter taste of it - of getting what you'd dreamed of your whole life...and to now want to throw it out an airlock. You tapped it against your forehead.

Dostya's eyes were closed. She opened them and nodded. "The Cybran Nation has held a vote. By an amazing majority, you have won our loyalty." She smirked. "Don't let it go to your head. Our non-subverted members are lesser in number than I'd prefer."

You nodded.

Swann's voice cracked in over the PA, making Princess Burke - who had sat quietly, her head bowed in thought - to jerk her head up. "Jimmy boy, you will never fucking guess whose fleet just warped in."

Jim and you both stood at once.

In a flash, you were on the bridge, and both of you boggled at the battlecruisers hanging in space.

"No," Jim and you said at the same time.

"We're...getting a communication message, my princess," one of the Aeon women said.

"Bring it up, if you would be so kind," Priness Burke said.

The glassy wall that marked the outer edges of this open air bridge shimmered and, projected on it, larger than life...was...

"Raynor." Emperor Arcturus Mengsk I and his son, Prince Valarian Mengsk looked down at you all. "Clarke. I believe we need to talk."

***
Jim refused, point blank, to have Mengsk anywhere near the circular, egalitarian conference room where the Alliance had had its first meeting. And so, instead, you all met in a side chamber, a meeting room that Burke got together - though her expression went from polite interest to a serious frown as you sketched out the basics of Mengsk's rule. When he finally did arrive and you were in the same room as the man who had betrayed Kerrigan and left her to die, the man who had taken a fight for liberty and revolution and made it all about him...you felt the impressive weight of his personality slam into you despite that.

Few men could pull of a cloak with a gold skull clasp. No one, you were sure, could make it fit so naturally as Arcturus Mengsk. He wore the clothes of empire as if he had been born to them, unlike his son - who always had felt like he was in a costume, even when he had come to you hat in hand.

Now, you and Mengsk squared off.

You were a little bit taller than him.

He...wasn't actually that tall. You wondered how much of that was growing up on Korhal and spending his life running from Confederate reprisals. His eyes and yours met. Then he inclined his head. "My condolences," he said. "I've...lost a homeworld as well."

"Yeah, and wiped one out too," Jim muttered.

Mengsk politely ignored him.

"I've been informed of the strife now sweeping throughout the galaxy and I am aware that humanity's future is in peril. These...Xel'Naga..." he frowned. "My scientists have fed me a great deal of information about them, what we've learned from the Zerg and the Protoss, it seems that this legion of fire that's now seeking to tear down our two great empires can only be defeated and driven back into the void from whence it came by our cooperation. I know you see the Dominion as a mere...backwater. But currently, General Duke and General Warfield, as well as other commanding officers, are securing vital mineral and vespine resources. My scientists have already begun to make immense strides in our SCV construction capacity just by being aware of more advanced nanolathe technology. I..." He paused, then for a moment, there was no Emperor, no politician, just a tired, old father.

How much of that was a mask too?

"...I want a galaxy for my boy to grow up in, Samantha."

Your head spines twitched subtly and your glowing eyes regarded him, cooly.

"...this is horseshit," Jim said, quietly. "You just want to keep your crown. This is all it's ever been about! You fuckin' tried to throw in with the Protoss, shit, you tried to work with the Zerg."

"Ironic, I know," Mengsk said, and his eyes flicked from Jim. To You. To Jim again.

Jim scowled. "That's different, you-"

You grabbed his chest, stopping him.

You made your decision in a flash.

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[ ] Take the Dominion as allies
[ ] Refuse
[ ] Write In
 
[X] Refuse
- Thank you Mengsk, I can now guarantee that we are going to win this . . . because I refuse to die before I have personally dragged you off your throne and tossed you in front of an international tribunal for your many sapient rights abuses. Now get off my ship.
 
[] Write In
- [] Fine, but there's too much much bad blood for this to work as is. Valerian has been a good faith actor in his interactions with us and I have personally seen him clean out the rot of the Confederacy's atrocities. We will be able to coordinate with fewer issues through him then we could without. You can do more leading fron your own world's directly Emperor Mengsk.

Plz someone else make my words prettier. This is too big a deal to keep fighting eachother even if it is Mengsk. However Valerian is actually an alright person who Sam personally saw excute the people that abused the Ghosts. He could work as a representative for the Dominion that we can somewhat trust and should keep internal Alliance tensions to a mere rolling boil.
 
I think we should demand he abdicate in favor of Valerian. What he does afterwards is still a big question - but if he really wants to help save the world, he can begin by acknowledging that his reputation makes any alliance impossible and removing himself from this particular equation, at least.
 
Sigh...

We need all the help we can get. And if we refuse he'll just stab us in the back whenever it suits him instead of stabbing us in the back after we win.
 
A compromise in Valerian because being honest no one wants to work with Mengsk. The problem with back stabs and desperation deals is that he burnt way too many bridge.

More specifically so far as we can trust Mengsk to entertain and seriously consider stabbing us in the back if it means becoming emperor of an even larger portion of the universe.

[X] A limited defensive pact coordinating primarily with Valerian and the resources he has control over. Importantly this means that both the scope of what we are willing to defend and the resources we intend to both give and receive is limtied
-[X] Mengsk has burned so many bridges that we have to assume he'll betray us if he could become an emperor of an even bigger part of the universe.
 
[X] A limited defensive pact coordinating primarily with Valerian and the resources he has control over. Importantly this means that both the scope of what we are willing to defend and the resources we intend to both give and receive is limtied
-[X] Mengsk has burned so many bridges that we have to assume he'll betray us if he could become an emperor of an even bigger part of the universe.

Hmmm, I guess? Not sure how to word this any differently anyways
If nothing else Valerian can keep his father in check, cuz we can't afford too many more enemies already, so if he does a backstab, at least it wont be completely unprepared for
 
Hmmm.

Given that Cr is here, how much of the Zerg are still around?

Do we still habe those mind control parasites, as an assurance.
 
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[Joke] Have Cr rip Arcturus Mengsk to shreds, then start an alliance with his heir.

Well... I say joke, but like if it wouldn't absolutely ruin the ability for the Dominion to work with us, I'd probably actually go for it. Arcturus Mengsk really is just that shitty. On the other hand, he's not an idiot and losing all of the Dominion's power in this situation would be bad.

I honestly, do want to accept but hoping we can counter the inevitable Mengsk backstab is... risky. I want to say he will definitely wait til after the Xel'naga are beaten to backstab us. Cause it's not like he backstabbed Kerrigan til after the Confederate capital was doomed. And I think he's smart enough to realize that he's definitely not going to be Emperor of anything under the Xel'naga so I don't think he'll backstab us and join their side. But at the same time I'm not 100 percent positive on that.
 
[X] A limited defensive pact coordinating primarily with Valerian and the resources he has control over. Importantly this means that both the scope of what we are willing to defend and the resources we intend to both give and receive is limtied
-[X] Mengsk has burned so many bridges that we have to assume he'll betray us if he could become an emperor of an even bigger part of the universe.

We don't have an empire, we have an alliance between the remains of the UEF, an allegory to the Dominion, but not if we have anything to say about it; The Cybran Collective, a true direct democracy; and the Aeon Illuminate, what's left of a neo-theofeudal territory, and again not if we have any hand in its future. If Mengsk wants a galaxy for his son, he needs to let his son build that. And if he wants anywhere near this alliance, he should take a close look at his actions, consider what he'd do to Raynor if he'd done them, then realize what he's really built. He shouldn't want that for his son.
 
Well, this is an 'all hands on the deck' situation. That said, I have no intention of letting Arcturus "I-will-burn-this-world-to-ash-if-I-have-to" Mengsk do as he pleases.

[X] Take the Dominion as allies. Its forces are subordinate to the Alliance chain of command and member nations have right to place civillian and military attaches to ensure cooperation. We stay together or we hang alone.

Tldr: you can join, but you fight our way
 
Edited to included Mithrils addition

[X] Write-in: The alliance would be delighted to welcome the Dominion, under the rule of Emperor Valerian.
-[X] "We are grateful for the Dominion's offer. That said, Emperor, as a head of absolute monarchy you are surely aware what would happen in the very likely circumstance of assasination attempt against Alliance's heads of states. However, the Emperor has an heir that has already cooperated with some members of the Alliance, proving a trustworthy and reliable supporter. If Dominion's contribution to war effort is presented as Prince Valerian's actions, you can do what what you're best at: keep the Dominion coreworlds safe, stable and productive, while your heir enjoys good PR from leading a campaign and practicing his diplomatic skills. And the army would run under single command chain one way or another."

@Genderite @UARTman
Does something like this work for you
 
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[X] Write-in: The alliance would be delighted to welcome the Dominion, under the rule of Emperor Valerian.

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Does something like this work for you
I really don't think he'd accept it. Using Valerian as the interface between us is a compromise that both sides can grudgingly accept but asking Mengsk to surrender his throne to anyone for any reason is more then the megalomaniacal asshole will ever accept.
 
Though, as a note, I would like to say I'm actually kind of proud of how if you look through everything Mengsk has done in the quest, he has actually betrayed zero people. Like, even if you can surmise he was going to betray Daggoth at some point, he didn't betray the Protoss on Aiur, you guys just scooped him.

EDIT: I also think I've done a good job having him be a talented political operator who reacts to changing circumstances a bit more than SC2 Mengsk
 
[X] Write-in: The alliance would be delighted to welcome the Dominion, under the rule of Emperor Valerian.
-[X] "We are grateful for the Dominion's offer. That said, Emperor, as a head of absolute monarchy you are surely aware what would happen in the very likely circumstance of assasination attempt against Alliance's heads of states. However, the Emperor has an heir that has already cooperated with some members of the Alliance, proving a trustworthy and reliable supporter. If Dominion's contribution to war effort is presented as Prince Valerian's actions, you can do what what you're best at: keep the Dominion coreworlds safe, stable and productive, while your heir enjoys good PR from leading a campaign and practicing his diplomatic skills. And the army would run under single command chain one way or another."

And then we get our ghost defector on the line to have him offed before he worms his way back into leadership Chiang Kai-Shek style, right?
 
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Though, as a note, I would like to say I'm actually kind of proud of how if you look through everything Mengsk has done in the quest, he has actually betrayed zero people. Like, even if you can surmise he was going to betray Daggoth at some point, he didn't betray the Protoss on Aiur, you guys just scooped him.

EDIT: I also think I've done a good job having him be a talented political operator who reacts to changing circumstances a bit more than SC2 Mengsk
Sadly for him, his old war buddy he betrayed to get revenge for her being brainwashed into assassinating his family went and became a major faction leader and her old squeeze became a war hero for another major faction when they were supposed to be dead. Just goes to show vengeance is a mugs game.
 
[X] Write-in: The alliance would be delighted to welcome the Dominion, under the rule of Emperor Valerian.
-[X] "We are grateful for the Dominion's offer. That said, Emperor, as a head of absolute monarchy you are surely aware what would happen in the very likely circumstance of assasination attempt against Alliance's heads of states. However, the Emperor has an heir that has already cooperated with some members of the Alliance, proving a trustworthy and reliable supporter. If Dominion's contribution to war effort is presented as Prince Valerian's actions, you can do what what you're best at: keep the Dominion coreworlds safe, stable and productive, while your heir enjoys good PR from leading a campaign and practicing his diplomatic skills. And the army would run under single command chain one way or another."
 
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[X] Write-in: The alliance would be delighted to welcome the Dominion, under the rule of Emperor Valerian.
-[X] "We are grateful for the Dominion's offer. That said, Emperor, as a head of absolute monarchy you are surely aware what would happen in the very likely circumstance of assasination attempt against Alliance's heads of states. However, the Emperor has an heir that has already cooperated with some members of the Alliance, proving a trustworthy and reliable supporter. If Dominion's contribution to war effort is presented as Prince Valerian's actions, you can do what what you're best at: keep the Dominion coreworlds safe, stable and productive, while your heir enjoys good PR from leading a campaign and practicing his diplomatic skills. And the army would run under single command chain one way or another."


Well, I was right in that Mengsk was going to do something stupid.

I did not expect it to also be the right right thing.

To be honest this might be out of Sam's skill set but the best way to frame this for the Emperor is that it is his idea and his best chance to get what he wants.

To save his own skin at the very least and most likely to have a better universe for his child. Abdicating now is a great way to defuse the rest of the people that hate him personally and want to see him dead, retains most of his authority as the current Emperor's father even if he loses the ability to control the military. It even lets him paint the past and frame things in an acceptable manner for his ego with little push back from those that he has hurt.

I expect for future things that are going to hurt us with this is when we have to confront Kerrigan and the zerg.

Edited for updated vote.
 
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