Peace in Our Time! - A TRO Inspired Franco-British Union Quest

[X] Aneurin Bevan, 1.2
[X] Patrick Wall, 0.8

I think Powell would be a better opponent for Labour because he divides them from the French, but Wall has a better chance at this point.
 
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Aneurin Bevan said:
I know that the right kind of leader for this nation is a desiccated calculating machine who must not in any way permit himself to be swayed by indignation. If he sees suffering, privation or injustice he must not allow it to move him, for that would be evidence of the lack of proper education or of absence of self-control. He must speak in calm and objective accents and talk about a dying child in the same way as he would about the pieces inside an internal combustion engine.
- Sarcastic Remarks by Aneurin Bevan on a Gaitskell PMship.


BEVANSWEEP!

 
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Colonial Divisions in Africa, 1957
Way too late to say this, but I actually intended for both West African Territories and Nigerian Federation to remain part of FBU Overseas Territories rather than new colonial federations - it's in the plan as internal reorganization.

What happened in Sicily's horn of Africa is definitely out of our hands since it's Royal Italy's own decision lmao.

God those colonial borders are awful. Not trying to attack anyone, but it's just a bunch of nonsensical changes that clearly made things worse.
My reasons are definitely a mix of both serious and wacky, I'll elaborate:
1. Azawad is based on Tuareg rebellions against WAF countries edit: for their national liberation project.
2. The EAF is based on IRL EAF expansion.
3. Central Africa is a reduced entity out of IRL United States of Latin Africa proposal
4. Rhodesia-Nyasaland is an IC Hitlerite decision :V
5. Mauritania-Western Sahara fusion is purely embiggening. edit2: But having most of their ethnic groups being Hassaniya Arabic speakers could help in forming a national identity...but this is post-facto justification :D
6. West African Territories and Nigerian Federation is definitely just lopping of West Africa in two big federations. But it is still roughly based on IRL national liberation figures wrangling between a post-France federal state (later reduced to Mali Federation, then ending with Senegal & Mali separating) and separate states (which won out). Ofc those countries now confederated to form the modern WAF.
7. The Somalias were separated between FBU and Royal Italy/Sicily, and Djibouti is Somali-majority..Sicily deciding to unite the Somalias & Djibouti with Eretria is purely their decision tho

Ofc, except for Azawad and the attempted unification of Somali regions, these are based on post-colonial proposals that originate on local attempts to make something out of Euro postcolonial decisions...edit3: as well as OOC whimsy & IC horribleness :V
 
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Way too late to say this, but I actually intended for both West African Territories and Nigerian Federation to remain part of FBU Overseas Territories rather than new colonial federations - it's in the plan as internal reorganization.

Apologies, it was not entirely clear in the plan itself. I overlooked that and misunderstood the intentions, which was reflected in the update. In the future colonial policy decision I'll note that as being clarified. I also somehow missed the existence of British Subject as a legal status. I searched for it before regarding colonial citizenship status, but didn't stumble across it until I was writing that update. It helped immensely clarifying the legal status of colonial subjects and overseas territories. It's so odd. Google's search has really gone to shit.

What happened in Sicily's horn of Africa is definitely out of our hands since it's Royal Italy's own decision lmao.

It's the Republic of Italy. They have no navy, and their army is a undermanned and drawn from veterans and fascist paramilitaries. The only way border security could have been worse is if you gave it to Greece. It's not even good for Somalians either because in 1948 the FBU basically opened up POW camps, put a rifle in Italian soldiers hands, and sent them back to East Africa, and then doubled down on that decision by giving them more of Somalia 1952 onwards.

Oh yeah, all those German and Italian POWs probably would have been a problem too. Good for them the FBU had no agreement with the Soviets, so they didn't get repatriated to their now communist home countries to face trial.

My reasons are definitely a mix of both serious and wacky, I'll elaborate:
1. Azawad is based on Tuareg rebellions against WAF countries edit: for their national liberation project.
2. The EAF is based on IRL EAF expansion.
3. Central Africa is a reduced entity out of IRL United States of Latin Africa proposal
4. Rhodesia-Nyasaland is an IC Hitlerite decision :V
5. Mauritania-Western Sahara fusion is purely embiggening. edit2: But having most of their ethnic groups being Hassaniya Arabic speakers could help in forming a national identity...but this is post-facto justification :D
6. West African Territories and Nigerian Federation is definitely just lopping of West Africa in two big federations. But it is still roughly based on IRL national liberation figures wrangling between a post-France federal state (later reduced to Mali Federation, then ending with Senegal & Mali separating) and separate states (which won out). Ofc those countries now confederated to form the modern WAF.
7. The Somalias were separated between FBU and Royal Italy/Sicily, and Djibouti is Somali-majority..Sicily deciding to unite the Somalias & Djibouti with Eretria is purely their decision tho

Ofc, except for Azawad and the attempted unification of Somali regions, these are based on post-colonial proposals that originate on local attempts to make something out of Euro postcolonial decisions...edit3: as well as OOC whimsy & IC horribleness :V

United States of Latin Africa is one I didn't know about. It didn't get very far, shame.
 
1957 - General Election
[] Aneurin Bevan, 1.2
[] Harold Macmillan, 1.2

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1957 - General Election
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In the end, Bevan's support amongst the Labour Party was too great for Gaitskell to overcome. It was decided before the vote even began. Attlee's decision to step down practically handed leadership to Bevan on a silver platter. He promised to continue the party's current path of transforming the Union through reform at the ballot box. There'd be no turning back the clock on Labour's achievements if Bevan had anything to say about. The domestic popularity of many of the policies was undeniable.

The loss was not received well by the party's right wing. The fears of splitting the party had indeed been correct. Gaitskell was about to spend the rest of his career as a backbencher. He rallied his supporters around himself and split the party, taking nearly a third of existing delegates with him. Publicly relations between the parties are cordial, but behind the scenes both parties were pulling out all the stops ahead of the election.

The Radicals split ways with Labour too. Pleven had grown concerned of Labour's continued leftward drift and feared that continued association would taint the Radicals or worse, inspire a new leftist party to emerge in France. Radicals, resembling more a connection of cadres than a true mass party, continued being the Union's left most French party. Its center-left position helped suck up air in the room and channel it towards the establishment.

The Tories saw a brief upsurge in support for Patrick Wall. In the initial leadership debates he'd seemingly dominated, hitting the establishment for its failures to maintain British traditions and ceding talking points to Labour. Numerous backbenchers that otherwise would have supported Macmillan's policies nonetheless found themselves as equally outraged as Wall. The center of the party would hold though, as Macmillan refused to budge and called up his supporters to maintain leadership over the party. Powell barely had any support.

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A lot had changed for the Franco-British Union between 1952 to 1957. Labour had managed the seemingly impossible task of abolishing the House of Lords. The outdated system of first past the post was replaced with a more sensible proportional electoral system that'd give more power to third parties. The larger parties suddenly had competition in previously safe ridings and competitive seats became even more so.

The domestic situation wasn't looking bad for Labour. The flood of social and welfare reforms were positively received by those who benefited from it. The increased trade with Europe and the Commonwealth provided more buyers for British goods and kept the price of raw materials done. Increased extraction in the colonies had a similar effect. However, many felt that perhaps Labour had overstepped its boundaries. The culture war was not on Bevan's side.

Why were all private schools nationalized? Why can't the church run schools anymore? Did the House of Lords really need to be abolished? Couldn't it have remained as a symbolic body? Why can't teachers discipline students anymore? Did Labour need to go so far? These were questions poised by the middle class. Less concerned about colonial affairs, preserving British traditions was seen as more important. They loved the welfare and cheap livable council housing, but felt certain freedoms had perhaps been infringed upon.

The ongoing revolts in the colonies made the news, but the lower body count made it less eye catching to British voters. The Mau Mau and UPC had "started" it after all. They were the violent 'savages' brutalizing white settlers and other tribes. It was the FBU and CAN that kept the peace. No, it was the French voters who found themselves concerned by the uptick in colonial revolts. A degree of blame was placed on Italy for failing to pull its weight, but more on Labour for failing to decisively handle the revolts and prevent them in the first place.

Domestically the French meanwhile enjoyed their special status in the Union. The concessions, subsidies, and parallel national corporations and agencies were all well received. It did not buy loyalty to Labour however. Turing's case was celebrated as France holding its own in the Union. The lack of official bilingualism however was still seen as an annoyance, especially as many French officials were expected to speak English to accommodate their British counterparts, rather than the other way away. The ease of travel to Portugal, Spain, Italy, and Greece was enjoyed by many French tourists and businesses.

Internationally, there were few complaints from the majority of the populace. On the surface the Franco-British Union had never been closer with the Commonwealth. Its military alliance was proving itself, even if there were setbacks in Argentina. America received the majority of the criticism for that particular failure, but elements within French and British society, and even the military, began questioning the government's refusal to pursue military modernization and expansion.

The ever loaming debt was bemoaned by many, but it was taken as a fact of life by 1957. There's little discontent regarding deficit spending, save from budget hawks. They had little influence in the government or any major party. Price controls, foreign loans, and inflation had become a fact of life for the government.

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Welcome to the 1957 General Election. It's key to deciding if Labour's Bevanite victories remain cemented as part of the postwar consensus or if they're watered down by other parties. It will be key for deciding the course of decolonization.

Voting will be adjusted to try to represent changes in electoral laws.

Players may vote for 3 parties, 1 British, 1 French, and 1 from either. You may use the third slot to vote for a party you have already voted for.

Parties may form a coalition with each other if the option is provided below their name. Players tick the box to merge them when voting for them. If players do not want to form a coalition then they do not need to include the option. If one party is in favour of a coalition with another party, but the other one isn't then this represents a confidence and supply agreement. You can vote for as many coalition partners as available.

We also see the first merged party. It counts as both a British and a French party. You can vote for it twice because it has candidates in both halves of the union. Please note in brackets if it's using the British or French voting slot to keep track of where their votes are coming from. That matters because of the unequal numbers of British vs French population.

All votes are weighted. 1 vote per party is equal to the number beside their name.

[] Plan: Orange Coalition
-[] Radical Liberal Party (British) Jo Grimond/Reve Pleven
--[] Coalition: Social Democrats
-[] Radical Liberal Party (French) Jo Grimond/Reve Pleven
--[] Coalition: Social Democrats
-[] Social Democratic Party (British), Hugh Gaitskell
--[] Coalition: Radical Liberals

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[ ] Labour (British), Aneurin Bevan, 1.2

Labour's "Revolution" will never end under Bevan. There'll be more investments into education and healthcare. He promises to bring "genuine socialism to the shores of Britain" by granting greater autonomy and worker control over nationalized industries to the unions. Housing will be a human right, as will higher education. The science and arts will flourish like never before. The colonies will be granted independence and a more critical eye will be taken to the Union's European allies. No longer will London overlook authoritarians and neo-fascists on its doorstep. Instead it'd pressure its European allies to democratize.

The splitting of the party risked losing previously safe seeks. The radical nature of the reforms threatened to turn off some voters as well. Despite those setbacks, inertia was seemingly on Bevan's side entering the election. There were whispers of dissent from the military, fearful that Bolshevism was about to arrive on Britain's shores. How much was scuttlebutt and how much was genuine remained to be seen.

[ ] Social Democratic Party (British), Hugh Gaitskell, 0.6
-[ ] Coalition: Radical Liberals

Deciding to try his hand at running his own party, Gaitskell seeks more moderate policies than Bevan's Labour. They hold very similar positions on a great many things, however they place greater emphasis on small businesses and craft unions in the hopes of eking out a loyal niche for themselves alongside stolen Labour voters. Gaitskell himself stands out for his outspoken support for culturally progressive policies and anti-racism. It plans on carrying on the torch set aflame by Attlee, claiming credit for the previous government's successes.

[ ] Radical Liberal Party (British or French), Jo Grimond/Reve Pleven, 1
-[ ] Coalition: Social Democrats
-[ ] Coalition: National Rally

The Radicals remain the only mainstream French party outside of the National Rally. They've shored up their support among voters by delivering on electoral promises. Internally it sidelined the more radical members of the party. Pleven himself is a supporter of Darlan's reorganized party, but decided not to join it when an opportunity presented itself. Liberal's leader Clement Davis had retired ahead of the election, hopeful that a younger leader would be able to steer the party in his place. In a much debated decision, a merger of parties was proposed to solidify a centrist social liberal bloc within the Union.

The joint party represents a new era in FBU politics where the two halves of the union are far less separate. The Rad Lib's aims were pursuing social welfare, mixed economic policies, progressive politics, and support for small businesses. The expected line up of policies one would expect from a broadly center-left coalition of liberals and social democrats.

[ ] Tory (British), Harold Macmillan, 1
-[ ] Coalition: National Rally

The Tories under Macmillan will maintain the postwar consensus while undermining what they find most egregious in the name of sensible spending. Kenysian economics is party orthodoxy, alongside corporatist handling of labour unions and state companies. The reactionary Monday Club remains a thorn in Macmillan's side, eager to reinstate British institutions and hold onto the empire at all costs. They are vocal, and they are eager to seize power of the party themselves. It perhaps speaks to Labour's victory that even their most outspoken opposition are still taking notes off them.

[ ] National Rally (French), Francois Darlan, 2
-[ ] Coalition: Tory
-[ ] Coalition: Radical Liberals

Darlan's ascent into power within Algeria was unstoppable, having reorganized the Conservative Bloc into the National Rally for Unity. A collection of centrists, moderates, conservatives, militarists, even a few syndicalists, and more, it was held together by Darlan's personal authority into a stable coalition. It was defined by dirigisme economics, populist conservatism, and limited colonial reform: broadly supporting the postwar consensus. Maintaining FBU hegemony was paramount in foreign affairs.

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Please vote by plan. There is a moratorium.

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[X] Plan Bevansweep
-[X] Labour (British), Aneurin Bevan, 1.2
-[X] Labour (British), Aneurin Bevan, 1.2


All's Well With Labour at the Helm!

What's this about a possible military coup? Nonsense, they would never do such a thing!
 
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[ ] Radical Liberal Party (British), Jo Grimond/Reve Pleven, 1
-[ ] Coalition: National Rally
[ ] Tory (British), Harold Macmillan, 1
-[ ] Coalition: National Rally
[ ] National Rally (French), Francois Darlan, 2
-[ ] Coalition: Tory
-[ ] Coalition: Radical Liberals

Restore sanity and good governance!
 
[ ]A Closer, More Compassionate Union
-[ ] Radical Liberal Party (British), Jo Grimond/Reve Pleven, 1
--[ ] Coalition: Social Democrats
-[ ] Radical Liberal Party (French), Jo Grimond/Reve Pleven, 1
--[ ] Coalition: Social Democrats
-[ ] Social Democratic Party (British), Hugh Gaitskell, 0.6
--[ ] Coalition: Radical Liberals
 
[X] Plan Bevansweep
-[X] Labour (British), Aneurin Bevan, 1.2
-[X] Labour (British), Aneurin Bevan, 1.2
 
[X] Plan Bevansweep
-[X] Labour (British), Aneurin Bevan, 1.2
-[X] Labour (British), Aneurin Bevan, 1.2

Honestly, I kind of want to see what happens if we get couped.
 
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What's all this nonsense about coups? The enlightened and democratic land of Britain would never suffer such barbarity! Now let's get Labour into office and keep the economy moving on up!
 
[] Plan Bevansweep
-[] Labour (British), Aneurin Bevan, 1.2
-[] Labour (British), Aneurin Bevan, 1.2


All's Well With Labour at the Helm!

What's this about a possible military coup? Nonsense, they would never do such a thing!

For what it's worth, if this doesn't launch a coup, this would be the perfect way of ensuring the FBU has a place as a power in a future that looks set to be dominated by the Soviet Union. The Americans are desperate for another war with Japan and Japan is eager to answer, which is going to have... Mixed results for both participants in the age of nuclear proliferation.

A policy of letting the yanks driving their society into a solid brick wall while quietly seeking detente with the Soviets would leave us relatively untouched whilst our "allies" are in ruins and desperate for a more Anglo-French Marshall plan to rebuild their societies (to suit our interests of course).

Hell if there's enough popular support for Bevan's government, the promise of a FBU wide general strike and the possibility of an Eastern bloc intervention, even if there is a coup there's no guarantee it'll succeed.

In short: all aboard the Bevan train.
 
[X] Plan: A Closer, More Compassionate Union
-[X] Radical Liberal Party (British), Jo Grimond/Reve Pleven, 1
--[X] Coalition: Social Democrats
-[X] Radical Liberal Party (French), Jo Grimond/Reve Pleven, 1
--[X] Coalition: Social Democrats
-[X] Social Democratic Party (British), Hugh Gaitskell, 0.6
--[X] Coalition: Radical Liberals

Centrist madlads! :V
 
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