[X] Avi Singh, Separatist Senator of Raxus Secundus, and the current Speaker of the Separatist Parliament after Dooku. While generally unopposed domestically after the slaughter of the Separatist Council by Darth Vader, he now has to contend with the realities of being the head of a government that has perpetuated countless atrocities, while also having little to no military to speak of after the deactivation of the Droid Army by Nute Gunray.
Star Wars: Galaxy in Shambles
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Yeah, we'd also probably face some stigma since the clone wars are a really recent thing, then again, the average seppy citizen probably wouldn't care and it's all about reputation anyway, something we can change by outreach programs and smart thinking.
Also likely, diplomacy seems like what would fit for such action.
[X] Grandmaster Yoda of the Jedi Order, one of a mere handful of Jedi to survive the Second Jedi Purge. Not only is the Order practically nonexistent, but it also is not generally looked upon favorably by either the Empire or the Confederacy. There's also the matter of the Skywalker Twins...
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[X] Avi Singh, Separatist Senator of Raxus Secundus, and the current Speaker of the Separatist Parliament after Dooku. While generally unopposed domestically after the slaughter of the Separatist Council by Darth Vader, he now has to contend with the realities of being the head of a government that has perpetuated countless atrocities, while also having little to no military to speak of after the deactivation of the Droid Army by Nute Gunray.
CIS for life man
CIS for life man
[X] Grandmaster Yoda of the Jedi Order, one of a mere handful of Jedi to survive the Second Jedi Purge. Not only is the Order practically nonexistent, but it also is not generally looked upon favorably by either the Empire or the Confederacy. There's also the matter of the Skywalker Twins...
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[X] Avi Singh, Separatist Senator of Raxus Secundus, and the current Speaker of the Separatist Parliament after Dooku. While generally unopposed domestically after the slaughter of the Separatist Council by Darth Vader, he now has to contend with the realities of being the head of a government that has perpetuated countless atrocities, while also having little to no military to speak of after the deactivation of the Droid Army by Nute Gunray.
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Wait, with Sidious dead, won't Anakin also die?
0th Law
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Most likely, unless Darth Vader manages to go the route of Darth Sleeps-With-Vibroblades.
Eh sidious might have preemptively sent out some corusant guards just in case but anakin is probably dead as hell, we still have to deal with the Myriad of other imperial assholes.
I just want to transition the cis into a genuinely revolutionary polity. With the Corporate stranglehold of the cis maintained through their droids now gone, perhaps we may be able to actually bring together a united separatist front instead of just masquerading as one.
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Which is kinda noble once you think about it, some folks in the confederacy have legit greviances and wanted better rights, hell I'm pretty sure that Singh and most of the council didn't want to destroy the Republic but just have it come to the table and discuss favourable terms. The Republic lasted over a thousand years so it was doing some things right, we could label ourselves as successors to the Republic's ideals and the empire nothing but pretenders.
Also, @0th Law , since I am a massive fan of star wars ships, would you mind if if I provisional provide a list of potential naval assets for the cis? I would basically do a quick overview since I just really like them.
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I'm fine with either the Jedi or CIS options winning
Thinking on it, I'm wondering if the Jedi option wins if that also means having with some remnants of the Temple Security Force considering they did continue to help and protect the Jedi and had members not force senstive. Also in general I just like when other members of it are brought up beyond the Temple Guard. Mainly the whole non-force sensitive members and how loyal they are.
Though with the CIS I'm wondering about the droideka mark II. Also guessing for now it'll just be militias for them until things get reactivated. Do recall a Clone Wars episode involving the Umbara militia.
Thinking on it, I'm wondering if the Jedi option wins if that also means having with some remnants of the Temple Security Force considering they did continue to help and protect the Jedi and had members not force senstive. Also in general I just like when other members of it are brought up beyond the Temple Guard. Mainly the whole non-force sensitive members and how loyal they are.
Though with the CIS I'm wondering about the droideka mark II. Also guessing for now it'll just be militias for them until things get reactivated. Do recall a Clone Wars episode involving the Umbara militia.
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The CIS can be thought of as, essentially, two entirely separate groups. These were, on one hand, organizations like the Trade Federation and the Banking Clan, who aligned themselves with the Sith knowingly out of greed, and on the other hand, there were peoples that had been hurt and oppressed by the Republic and its policies, along with, in many cases, the corporate organizations that were also in the movement. The first group formed the Separatist Council and provided the economic and military strength of the Confederacy, while the second formed the Separatist Parliament and essentially existed to, on one hand, provide legitimacy to the CIS for its limited existence, and on the other, act as representatives of the issues they championed to the Republic, and in so doing conflate those issues with the brutality of the CIS military.
Curiously, General Grevious, born Qymaen jai Sheelal, was far more aligned with the latter group than the former. He had very good reasons to despise the Republic, as they supported the Yam'rii in, essentially, fighting a Kaleesh slave revolt on planets that they colonized.
Sure, if you want.
Okay then, here's what we can probably expect if we roll with the confederacy.
Vulture droids: honestly those are are fairly deadly if rather limited, their discord missles are quite handy and the ability to transform into ground form allows for dynamic assaults and maneuvers, but they are limited by 30 minutes if flight time. A upgrade package is likely required.
Hyena bombers: basically a beefed up vulture with a additional bomber bay for proton torpedos basically a slower but punchier vulture, needs babying.
Tri droid interceptors: spherical death balls, tri droids, are fast, small, nimble and we'll armed, they have sufficient firepower to tear apart any Republic fighter and in some cases are utterly superior to them in some regards, elite interceptors that frankly we should update with shields, turn them into tie defenders on crack.
Munificent class frigates: you now em, you love em, lightly skinned frigates that are know for the overpowered prow torbolaser, during the clone wars it roughly took three munificents to rival and take down a venator star destroyer, however that's due to the venator's massive amount of fighters less so it's fire power. Probably a economic ship that's easy to mass produce and a early workhorse, can doable as a transport and a communications ship due to it's top of the line communications array.
Recusant class light destroyer, the most skeletal and flimsy of cis ships, Recusant are basically guns and nothing else, prow tuebolaser, torbolasers and other assorted weapons fill the ships profiles, probably the most outright cheap and basic ship we could buy since it's capable of being run by a droid brain with barely any crew and is so simple to produce.
Providence class dreadnought: arguably the finest cis ship and a highly modular one to booth, a providence is a well rounded dreadnought/carrier hybrid that likely can take on any combination of pirates or nascent imperial ships if well supported, they also come in bigger variants as a sort of super dreadnought. Highly modular but probably highly expensive in comparison to other ships, quite worth it though.
Lucrehulk class battleship/transport: ah the doughnut of doom! Lucrehulks are 3000 km in diameter monsters that can fit enough droids inside to subjugate a world, it's large size makes it capable of taking a massive amount of punishment and dishing it out in return due to it's high firepower. It can also double as a VERY good transport and relief ship.
Subjugator class heavy cruiser heavy cruiser: frankly I'm not expecting being able to field those monsters, a subjugator carries a ion cannon array that allows it to disable entire fleets with one charge and when supported is basically unassailable, ruiniously expensive but unkillable if we are smart.
Now I would continue but not sure if we would end up with some of the more unknown ships, like the bulwark, the sabaoth or anything else.
Vulture droids: honestly those are are fairly deadly if rather limited, their discord missles are quite handy and the ability to transform into ground form allows for dynamic assaults and maneuvers, but they are limited by 30 minutes if flight time. A upgrade package is likely required.
Hyena bombers: basically a beefed up vulture with a additional bomber bay for proton torpedos basically a slower but punchier vulture, needs babying.
Tri droid interceptors: spherical death balls, tri droids, are fast, small, nimble and we'll armed, they have sufficient firepower to tear apart any Republic fighter and in some cases are utterly superior to them in some regards, elite interceptors that frankly we should update with shields, turn them into tie defenders on crack.
Munificent class frigates: you now em, you love em, lightly skinned frigates that are know for the overpowered prow torbolaser, during the clone wars it roughly took three munificents to rival and take down a venator star destroyer, however that's due to the venator's massive amount of fighters less so it's fire power. Probably a economic ship that's easy to mass produce and a early workhorse, can doable as a transport and a communications ship due to it's top of the line communications array.
Recusant class light destroyer, the most skeletal and flimsy of cis ships, Recusant are basically guns and nothing else, prow tuebolaser, torbolasers and other assorted weapons fill the ships profiles, probably the most outright cheap and basic ship we could buy since it's capable of being run by a droid brain with barely any crew and is so simple to produce.
Providence class dreadnought: arguably the finest cis ship and a highly modular one to booth, a providence is a well rounded dreadnought/carrier hybrid that likely can take on any combination of pirates or nascent imperial ships if well supported, they also come in bigger variants as a sort of super dreadnought. Highly modular but probably highly expensive in comparison to other ships, quite worth it though.
Lucrehulk class battleship/transport: ah the doughnut of doom! Lucrehulks are 3000 km in diameter monsters that can fit enough droids inside to subjugate a world, it's large size makes it capable of taking a massive amount of punishment and dishing it out in return due to it's high firepower. It can also double as a VERY good transport and relief ship.
Subjugator class heavy cruiser heavy cruiser: frankly I'm not expecting being able to field those monsters, a subjugator carries a ion cannon array that allows it to disable entire fleets with one charge and when supported is basically unassailable, ruiniously expensive but unkillable if we are smart.
Now I would continue but not sure if we would end up with some of the more unknown ships, like the bulwark, the sabaoth or anything else.
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Incorrect, the CIS in space fighters were roughly equal in pound to pound quality (minus durability) to the GAR in addition to a numbers gap that only got bigger over time as the republic couldn't replace fighter pilots fast enough.
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Well yes, they are good but as I said, their solid fuel lasts for only 30 minutes, vultures are pretty god but again, limited by flight time.
What if we added a magazine type mechanism to them? Fuel slug gets used up, it ejects the casing and loads a new slug in the chamber. Refueling is a matter of loading the magazine.
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[X] Grandmaster Yoda of the Jedi Order, one of a mere handful of Jedi to survive the Second Jedi Purge. Not only is the Order practically nonexistent, but it also is not generally looked upon favorably by either the Empire or the Confederacy. There's also the matter of the Skywalker Twins...
That could work really well actually, adding a magazine system to extend their range would be a good idea and basically negate the only problem the vultures have.
Of course that hinges on Avi Singh winning, but i think cis might be winning the vote.
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There is the DH-Omni Support Vessel in the CIS not to mention assistence from local planets. Granted I'm mostly thinking of the Umbara at the moment even considering events that have already happened. Also a question about other ships like the Commerce Guild's Diamond-class cruiser which on the page does also have CIS listed.
Was also looking at more Jedi related stuff. One being Jedi Sanctuary which was abandoned after the great jedi purge. Also the Service Corps and how with Sideous' fate here suppose theres a different fate or something to those Jedi who were taken to Byss. Probably other worlds and orders and such involving Kyber crystals...
Was also looking at more Jedi related stuff. One being Jedi Sanctuary which was abandoned after the great jedi purge. Also the Service Corps and how with Sideous' fate here suppose theres a different fate or something to those Jedi who were taken to Byss. Probably other worlds and orders and such involving Kyber crystals...
[X] Grandmaster Yoda of the Jedi Order, one of a mere handful of Jedi to survive the Second Jedi Purge. Not only is the Order practically nonexistent, but it also is not generally looked upon favorably by either the Empire or the Confederacy. There's also the matter of the Skywalker Twins...
THe jedi will lead what remains and must rebuild to be better, and must show that the decision was in the right, anakin must face justice and the galaxy will be rebuilt
THe jedi will lead what remains and must rebuild to be better, and must show that the decision was in the right, anakin must face justice and the galaxy will be rebuilt
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Jedi taking leadership roles? that's not really happening. Ever. Also, i'd go on a diatribe on about how every galactic war for the past couple thousand years has been the cause of the Jedi and sith, but… that'd get annoying quick.
I was reffering to what is left of the jedi order and them becoming akin to a humanitarian agency on the grounds and helping the people of the republic/empire rather than lead it.
Jedi are boring though, I'd rather be a resurgent and reformed confederacy righting wrongs and kicking the empire in the dick to restore the Republic to what it was supposed to be, it's both poetic and gets us the chance to flex on the stupid project warmantle and tarkin.
The style of magazine will depend on how the fuel slugs work. Are they reactor fuel? That would give us the most freedom. If they are solid fuel rocket motors though that would be a pain the ass to upgrade