[X] Gold

We cannot meet Carmen. This poor fool wouldn't survive the encounter. Though I am curious if an Arbiter might give both the sense of focus and have the potential to drag it out permanently.
 
[X] Gold

I do have to say though, I'm not a fan of "cryptic choice that will affect character in unknown ways", especially so early and over such a trivial choice. Like, making the choice cryptic doesn't add anything beyond us randomly choosing a color. If it's affecting something important, like the protags personality, then we should really know what the effect on the protag should be. And if it's something super trivial, like literally what the character's favorite color is, then I'm not even sure why we're voting for it?
 
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Who knows? Its a narrative quest, so its probably important.

Outside of Naron of course.
Sure, but we're still very much in the "character creation" phase. I'm fine with cryptic choices, as long as we get some inkling or context over what the vote will determine. But like, we have zero context here.
Our main color scheme, I figure.
See, like, why not just tell us then?? There's zero reason to keep this cryptic if that's all this vote is determining.
 
Our main color scheme, I figure.
I mean. I can understand why they would be confused.

Naron did mentioned literally just last page that this will just be Ciel's favorite color in respond to someone stating that this vote will determine what kind of Color we are associated with. Whether it will become something more or less will be up to Naron.
 
I do have to say though, I'm not a fan of "cryptic choice that will affect character in unknown ways", especially so early and over such a trivial choice. Like, making the choice cryptic doesn't add anything beyond us randomly choosing a color. If it's affecting something important, like the protags personality, then we should really know what the effect on the protag should be. And if it's something super trivial, like literally what the character's favorite color is, then I'm not even sure why we're voting for it?
While I see your point, I deliberately made it like this because I severely dislike how most Quest's handle character creation. If I explicitely said that X colour emphasises Y character trait, people would immediately try to minmax their vote choices. Which is something I do not want them to do without actually putting in the work of figuring out how the colour could influence Ciel.

Colour scheme also plays into it; I am still finagling with their character portrait.

I may have gone a bit too far in the opposite direction, I can admit that. But I am not going to change it, specifically because I want to see what people come up with without any direction given by me. On the flipside, you can assume that it can be figured out without any further clues. I already said that the vote influences the character, but so far nobody made much of an attempt to reason how or what.
 
I ma be real with you chief, theres not much reason for us to debate why we should pick one color or another here really.

There isnt exactly any incentive to really think about it.

Being a Color is something so far in the future, the decisions we take now might as well doesnt matter.

Just vote for the Color you like and deal with whatever character comes out of it later.
 
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While I see your point, I deliberately made it like this because I severely dislike how most Quest's handle character creation. If I explicitely said that X colour emphasises Y character trait, people would immediately try to minmax their vote choices.
You could make it so the character's personality doesn't mechanically affect their stats? If you do that, then people aren't minmaxing, they're just creating the character they want to read about.

Which is something I do not want them to do without actually putting in the work of figuring out how the colour could influence Ciel.
On the flipside, you can assume that it can be figured out without any further clues. I already said that the vote influences the character, but so far nobody made much of an attempt to reason how or what.
Because you obfuscated what the vote was about since you made it cryptic. "This vote will influence Ciel but is unrelated to future encounters". What does that even mean? "Influence Ciel" and "Future encounters" could mean anything from "This vote is just about Ciel's favorite color and will not affect his personality whatsoever" to "This will decide Ciel's personality but won't affect his chances of meeting other color fixers" or even "This will decide what kind of EGO Ciel might potentially manifest".

The problem isn't the lack of potential answers. It's that since we have zero context into what this choice is supposed to be about, we have way too many. It could be about what kind of Fixer we want to be. What we want to stand for as a Color. It could be whether we want to specifically emulate Iori and the other Colors, or us wanting to choose our own way. Or it could be about what his favorite color is and nothing else.
All of these answers are equally likely from my point of view.

I'm not saying all of this so you'll change the vote. We've got too many voters for that anyway. I'm just stating how all of this is making me feel; frustrated.
 
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I have no Strong opinion over this.
Since this is a narrative quest and not a Heavy mechanic quest I see no reason to really give us everything since, you know, no dice throw, no persuasion check.
a hint or two can be nice, but I see your concern, I'm the type of guy that wants to kill someone when I see a play through of a RPG where they maxed out Intelligence and didn't touch anything else.
The way I see these votes is, we are building our personhood, Red means violent tendency and bravery, blue means persuasion and charisma, Black means endurance and patience, White I have no idea, but it could be...Intelligence and good faith?
The effect of that little drop of purple give us is: think more, think bigger. The rat that only concerns about the survival, spending his time thinking about the grand scheme of things, breaking the mold, stepping out the box, And he starts to think more, more then and general survival and the daily lives, more then where to get his next meal.
And he started to plot.
Anyway, that's my reading. I could be completely wrong, but I don't really mind it.
ultimately, I don't really care. As long as the narrative is consistent, logical and fits the setting, I'm satisfied and I have no worry over that. So do things however you like.
 
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...do we even have stats? This is a narrative quest after all.

As I said before. Don't think too much about it.

You will just be setting yourself up for disappointment when the vote eventually goes opposite of what you spent so much time thinking about.

Personally, outside of Angelica last round, I've found that just turning my brain off and voting for/against the thing I like/dislike is far better for my enjoyment. And even then, I had fun last time too.

With BE, spending so much energy thinking on Naron's quest kinda ruined my mood quite alot so I'm just giving you advice l've learned for this old dance.

Just go with the flow of the show. The motion of the ocean. The pushion of the cushion.
 
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...do we even have stats? This is a narrative quest after all.
I mean, I assumed there would be at least some type of stats if Naron mentioned minmaxing. I'm not sure what the point of creating a character via a process that prevents minmaxing if there was nothing to be minmaxed?
You will just be setting yourself up for disappointment when the vote eventually goes opposite of what you spent so much time thinking about.
I don't care which option wins. That's kinda the problem? Cause I don't even know what we're even voting for.

I'm just picking Purple and Gold because I think living as a Rat, it makes sense that Ciel would like the color most people associate with wealth. And I picked Purple because it's the one option I'm pretty sure I know how it will affect Ciel. And I think white is boring, because the entire first post was about how "color" suddenly entered Ciel's life, and I think choosing the one color that is supposed to be "the absence of color" is dumb.

But I don't really care if any of these win or lose. I just needed some kind of reason to actually choose an option. Otherwise I might as well not vote at all.
 
But like, we have zero context here.

This is the color of a very important thing to the mc and is described as their favorite color, it is quite easy to see that it's a vote for a color schemes, probably the main or secondary color. There is context, and it's quite clear IMO.

On the flipside, you can assume that it can be figured out without any further clues. I already said that the vote influences the character, but so far nobody made much of an attempt to reason how or what.

Well, on my part it's partially because it's too obvious to mention, but hey, if you want it written:

White is lack of color, so, blank canvas is first though, easiest to grow and change.

Black is all colors, trying to be a jack of all trades I'd say, be boring and generic and no I don't have any bias what are you saying?

Purple is taking more from Iori, there is a reason why I want this and I am beginning to regret not making my campaign more serious or clear, so let's go with the why it is better than all the rest.

If we try to emulate Iori even more, we will work on being a badass who knows everything before it happens, we will have the most important currency in any settings: information, and we will have a lot of it, also, we may draw her eye even more and she already has two colors on her belt that she trained, so this is a huge benefit if it happens.

I mean, I assumed there would be at least some type of stats if Naron mentioned minmaxing.

Naron does pure narrative quests, no stats.
 
Honestly I think it's just pure asthetic and I'm all here for it. If I got a choice I would pick both white and gold since that combo goes hard. But I'm leaning towards white.
 
If we try to emulate Iori even more, we will work on being a badass who knows everything before it happens, we will have the most important currency in any settings: information, and we will have a lot of it, also, we may draw her eye even more and she already has two colors on her belt that she trained, so this is a huge benefit if it happens.
I don't really see that as something enjoyable to read tbh.

Might as well make it Iori's guide to becoming a Color in that case and get rid of Ciel as the intermediary entirely.

But then again. I don't really have anything so fancy to add either.

I just think Gold is neat. White is also neat, but its not the Color of those who are in first place.
 
You could make it so the character's personality doesn't mechanically affect their stats? If you do that, then people aren't minmaxing, they're just creating the character they want to read about.
There are no stats.
I mean, I assumed there would be at least some type of stats if Naron mentioned minmaxing. I'm not sure what the point of creating a character via a process that prevents minmaxing if there was nothing to be minmaxed?
That was a slip-up on my end, I guess. Apologies.

Because you obfuscated what the vote was about since you made it cryptic. "This vote will influence Ciel but is unrelated to future encounters". What does that even mean?
That means "this does more than pick their favourite colour, but it does not mean Ciel has it because they met another Color", which I saw as a misunderstanding that people would immediately jump on. Nothing about it is supposed to be cryptic beyond not specifying how big the influence on Ciel will be.

Anyway, you do have a point. I was probably overzealous. Thinking on it, my (mostly unconcious) inspiration was probably Pokémon Mystery Dungeon, where you start taking a personality quiz of sorts that determines which mon you play as. I loved that and still do.

What these votes do is that they flesh out the character of Ciel, who is currently still a bit of a blank slate. I specifically do not say how much because I do not have a solid idea of this OCs behaviour yet, so I can not say how strong each influence will be. Purple Tear on the last vote made them more inclined to collect information, gave an inclination toward figuring out strength and weaknesses to react to them. Those things. This one adds another facet depending on the colour chosen; the exact effects will be decided on when I actually see what it is, having an entire list before the fact would be madness.

Partly, I also want to see what justification people may give for the colours they choose. You mentioned gold as being the colour of wealth, which did not even occur to me but makes great sense; I can see that adding an appreciation for money now, or maybe a desire to have a lot of that.
 
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I see gold as something more of having presence. Our dear MC was envious of how Iroi was just able walk down the street and make others turn heads and respect her through her sheer presence. It's being able to proudly state that I'm here and you have to respect that no matter what. Wealth would just be a small part of that. Same as openly displaying wealth that plays into the concept of presence.
 
Hm. More information to work on there guys.

Official confirmation from the boss himself.

This is essentially the personality vote. Choose whatever color you like and give a justification on whatever you think said Color represent as a personality.

Mine is simple. Gold is the color given to those who are in first place.

We aren't here to just be another Purple Tear 2.0 but without time travel! We are here to be the best! To be the richest, the most powerful, the one of whom no one can ignore.
To be the envy of all men, women and other things inside the City.
To be the desire of all to achieve!
To be the most free, etc.

To be Golden. Is to strive for the pinnacle! The number one color!

Our ambition is grand. Our methods even grander (Colour level in like 5 years thats hella high of a goal), why settle for something so stale like white or so unoriginal like Purple when we can be #1?
 
This is the color of a very important thing to the mc and is described as their favorite color, it is quite easy to see that it's a vote for a color schemes, probably the main or secondary color. There is context, and it's quite clear IMO.
And again, I ask, what is the point of making it cryptic then? If "Influence Ciel" means "Choose Ciel's color scheme", then why not just say so?? Making it cryptic just makes it confusing for zero reason. And Naron has literally clarified that no, it's not just a vote about the color scheme. Which kinda just proves my point?
Purple is taking more from Iori, there is a reason why I want this and I am beginning to regret not making my campaign more serious or clear, so let's go with the why it is better than all the rest.
If this is the option that determines what the character will act like as a Fixer, then what was the point of the first vote? We got Black and White as default options, and black was one of the first vote options as well.

Also, I want our character to have things from Iori, but I don't want them to just be Iori 2.0? If voting purple does what you think it does, then I kinda don't want to vote for it anymore.

Anyway, you do have a point. I was probably overzealous. Thinking on it, my (mostly unconcious) inspiration was probably Pokémon Mystery Dungeon, where you start taking a personality quiz of sorts that determines which mon you play as. I loved that and still do.
I love that part about the games too! But even then, they still let you choose what mon you play as if you didn't like the initial choice, and the questions they asked you were far easier to figure out what each answer meant in terms of personality.

Anyway, I'm glad we got this figured out. Sorry if I came across as harsh, I really do love the idea of the quest so far. I just didn't want to stay quiet and regret not speaking up now in the future.

See, that would almost makes me vote for gold, almost, because I now want Ciel to have a puppy crush on Iori and voting purple seems better for that. :V
Not gonna lie, that was my entire reasoning for picking purple at first. XD
 
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