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Situation Foxtrot (SAO/Foxhole) [COMPLETE]

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Decim said:
Everything else is looking at the organizational problems for the next operation. Last time, during the Battle of Allsight, we got screwed over by one of the logi regiments not being able to fully supply us and the operation. Which in turn caused two of the infantry regiments to fail their check. Cascade failures are not something I want to have happen again, so planning early and often is a requirement to me. +3 Good Planning is the bare minimum I will accept for good odds of completing our part. Talking to Logi and Zairman is the start of building up the brigade we need.
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To specifically address this point about logi, we're currently in the process of getting a railway built which will both provide a +1 to the logi regiments and allow them to supply an additional regiment each. Zairman is already joining us on this operation, with talking to him being more about getting it to be on a more permanent basis and I would bet that finishing the railroad will get us a log regiment along with the rails, one that'll eventually upgrade to proper trains.
 
[X] Plan Preparing for the Next Brawl, Now with Trains
-[X] Begin developing Concrete (Railroad)
-[X] Go and recruit more personnel
--[X] Picky recruitment: Get people who are at least as skilled as you are! (Recruits 2d10+2 Yellow personnel)
-[X] Begin Operation Planning (+1 to all rolls when the next operation starts)
-[X] Requisition Material
--[X] Base Support: More concrete, more faster.
-[X] Go talk to someone specific/Meet a Specific Regiment
--[X] Call in Zairman, and get him ready for this next dance- and maybe see how he'd feel about working with you on a permanent basis.

So, I've been convinced about the necessity of finishing that rail, since its unlikely to get finished unless we pitch in. So, with that in mind, I've adjusted my plan from talking to Logistics and expanding the base to support a larger population, when we still have a surplus of bunks to finishing the rail. My reasoning for the other options has not changed.
 
As annoyed as I can get with Hooker I have to admit that his logistics staff are top notch. He's also supported his planning by finding the highest level officer he can influence (I assume Orr got a good chunk of officer XP by taking a hex in addition to the General promotion).

kelllogo's wishlist:
Outpost near the GWRR planned termination point
Extra things (like diesel for bonfires) delivered to said outpost and nearby bases
More Green minions to drive trucks in "safe" hexes
Stacking up some planning bonii
Poking the Moors to see if Silica can point out another decent frontline unit
Get some more concrete poured into the railroad spur line
Try to get our production teams something nice
Get closer to Zairman and his sweet unit of crack troops :V
Look for a cool relic pistol to replace Orr's missing Cascadier
 
Decim said:
Last time, during the Battle of Allsight, we got screwed over by one of the logi regiments not being able to fully supply us and the operation.
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Fireiy said:
To specifically address this point about logi, we're currently in the process of getting a railway built which will both provide a +1 to the logi regiments and allow them to supply an additional regiment each.
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7734 said:
the entire damn Navy got frozen into Quietus by a series of ice flows coming out of the west, clogging up the sea. An Ironship could punch holes through it, slowly, but the Navy's prize gunships were locked in hard.
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Hooker's plan assumed we'd be getting (at least some) supplies by water, didn't it? Winter looks likely to fuck with that.

I think the railroad might be needed to meet the bare minimum rather than providing a surplus that lets us skip planning.
 
Candesce said:
Hooker's plan assumed we'd be getting (at least some) supplies by water, didn't it? Winter looks likely to fuck with that.

I think the railroad might be needed to meet the bare minimum rather than providing a surplus that lets us skip planning.
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Never skip planning. When you skip planning you get the Logistics Union.
 
[x] Plan Mines & Mortars
- [x] Expand your bunker base with additional infrastructure to sustain larger troop numbers.
- [x] Go and recruit more personnel
-- [x] Selective recruitment: Look for people who aren't clueless. The Logistics Union has a lot of folks. (Recruits 3d10+3 Green personnel)
- [x] Extra work shifts
-- [x] More Mines: Get everyone to do more rounds on the component mines and oil wells. Components mean R-mats, R-mats mean flatbeds, and more importantly: trains (Begins work on GWR Request)
- [x] Find a, uh, techmaid, and get some prototype kits by hook or by crook.
-- [x] Cremani Mortar: a 60mm field mortar, man portable and heavy enough to throw out your back with. Theoretically there's a uniform to make this less ass...
- [x] Go talk to someone specific/Meet a Specific Regiment
-- [x] See Takamachi about the "new functionality" of the Engineering Centers.
--- [x] Go alone- you know she'll be forward, but it can't be that bad.
 
Hooker is reminding me more and more of Patton.

Attack! Attack! We've got them where we want them. Come oooooon, gimmie more guys, ATTAAAAAACCCCKKK before it's too late!
 
kelllogo said:
Outpost near the GWRR planned termination point
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My dude there's an entire bunker base there on the edge of the decay zone explicitly to let you offboard the rail in safety. They know what they're doing, and are worried about something like the Raid on Clanshead from another direction.

Candesce said:
Hooker's plan assumed we'd be getting (at least some) supplies by water, didn't it? Winter looks likely to fuck with that.
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My good woman he did not expect "some water supply"



An entire third of this attack is water-based.

Rockeye said:
Hooker is reminding me more and more of Patton.

Attack! Attack! We've got them where we want them. Come oooooon, gimmie more guys, ATTAAAAAACCCCKKK before it's too late!
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Night_stalker said:
Untrue, because Patton at least bothered making sure he had supply lines. This guy is more akin to Rommel, who kept outrunning his.
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Hooker actually has pretty good material supply lines, that's his entire thing. What he doesn't have is a good understanding of the human elements of the war, such as the condition of his primary frontline regiments or the temperature of his field commanders. Orr is a blessing and a curse to him because of this: she's more than willing to both lead and lead competently, but she's also willing to go "you fucking donkey if you say we're going again it'll push the troops will mutiny" and generally be a giant pain in the ass. There's a certain level of palpable irony in this, considering how closely it mirrors some of the canon stuff with the Liberation Army and their dipshittery.
 
7734 said:
Hooker actually has pretty good material supply lines, that's his entire thing. What he doesn't have is a good understanding of the human elements of the war, such as the condition of his primary frontline regiments or the temperature of his field commanders.
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SO what you're telling me is, Hooker loved wargames with logistics, but that's about the extent of his war knowledge? Planning and supply.
 
PaulBr said:
SO what you're telling me is, Hooker loved wargames with logistics, but that's about the extent of his war knowledge? Planning and supply.
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More like he was a beta tester who's really good at organizing janky systems of operations (dude cut his teeth making Skyrim mods as a kid, he's seen some shit) but has very little positive interaction with, well, people. In a spherical cow abstraction he's amazing, but this isn't a spherical cow abstraction.
 
7734 said:
More like he was a beta tester who's really good at organizing janky systems of operations (dude cut his teeth making Skyrim mods as a kid, he's seen some shit) but has very little positive interaction with, well, people. In a spherical cow abstraction he's amazing, but this isn't a spherical cow abstraction.
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So he's great at organizing and making sense out of a mess, but he's not quite good at the actual minutae of leading regiments in battle.

Ah, great. Our own McClellan.

...Well no, that'd be an insult to Hooker, really. At least Hooker doesn't imagine a million Colonials are hiding behind every hill and isn't deathly afraid of engaging the enemy.
 
So, I actually like this plan, so I'm stealing it, but I want to work on trains, so...
[X] Plan Preparing for the Next Brawl, mining edition
-[X] Expand your bunker base with additional infrastructure to sustain larger troop numbers.
-[X] More Mines: Get everyone to do more rounds on the component mines and oil wells. Components mean R-mats, R-mats mean flatbeds, and more importantly: trains (Begins work on GWR Request)
-[X] Begin Operation Planning (+1 to all rolls when the next operation starts)
-[X] Get in touch with another regiment that does something you need (Discovers and improves relations with one random regiment inside the search group)
--[X] Logistics
-[X] Go talk to someone specific/Meet a Specific Regiment
--[X] Call in Zairman, and get him ready for this next dance- and maybe see how he'd feel about working with you on a permanent basis.
 
Lightwhispers said:
So, I actually like this plan, so I'm stealing it, but I want to work on trains, so...
[X] Plan Preparing for the Next Brawl, mining edition
-[X] Expand your bunker base with additional infrastructure to sustain larger troop numbers.
-[X] More Mines: Get everyone to do more rounds on the component mines and oil wells. Components mean R-mats, R-mats mean flatbeds, and more importantly: trains (Begins work on GWR Request)
-[X] Begin Operation Planning (+1 to all rolls when the next operation starts)
-[X] Get in touch with another regiment that does something you need (Discovers and improves relations with one random regiment inside the search group)
--[X] Logistics
-[X] Go talk to someone specific/Meet a Specific Regiment
--[X] Call in Zairman, and get him ready for this next dance- and maybe see how he'd feel about working with you on a permanent basis.
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Funny that you mention that, it turns out that my revised plan to try to fit in trains without actually doing the Mines action was invalid. It's unlikely to win, but sure, I can throw my vote behind this.

[X] Plan Preparing for the Next Brawl, mining edition
 
[X] Plan Mines & Mortars

Kinda unsure where we are in the clusterfuck of clusterfucks besides Winter is Coming, or has come, and is about to bitch slap us something fierce in a weird way.
 
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