Counting Sheep - A Pokemon Trainer quest

Alternatively, we could specialize in the Field group, which is also a fairly diverse set of mon, including Best Starter Cyndaquil (Fite me, I will die on this hill) the Eeveelutions, even Mightyena. And would you look at that, the Nidoran lines are in there too!
 
Alternatively, we could specialize in the Field group, which is also a fairly diverse set of mon, including Best Starter Cyndaquil (Fite me, I will die on this hill) the Eeveelutions, even Mightyena. And would you look at that, the Nidoran lines are in there too!

Counterpoint - the monster egg group has Dinosaurs. The contrast between Soft Boi and a bunch of angry lizards that deserve the utmost respect would be fantastic :D
 
I would caution against an Egg group theme. There are 800 some Pokémon divided into 15 Egg Groups. The Monster Egg Group has 81 Pokémon. The Field Egg Group has a whopping 247 Pokémon. That would be a really broad Theme to deal with, with a lot of difference in Type, body shape, and temperament. Those traits can be a strength, but they can also lead to being stretched too thin. Also, I doubt we will go for more than 8-12 Pokémon caught, at most. So a broad theme like that feels over the top.

And being known as the Monster or Field guy would bring expectations that we would be able to handle any of them in the wild or whenever problems pop up. Anything from calming a rampaging Nidoking to assisting a Miltank give birth. Again, with such a wide spectrum of potential Pokémon emergencies, we run the risk of being stretched thin.
 
As for a training regimen, my current idea is working along the lines of: "Start training charge to give Marigold a better handle of her electricity (ideally working towards the static defense that Melati mentioned a couple chapters back seeing how proud Marigold seems to be in letting opponents bounce off her fur), then move on to having her work on discharging said electricity through thunder shock possibly using Yasigi as a safe target that won't actually get hurt and, depending on process, finish off by combining the two by firing at wild wingul to taunt them and then see if Marigold can manage to use the defensive form of charge mid-combat."

It is a good number of points, but we do have three days to work with here and they do nicely lead into each other as far as one regiment goes.

As for the vote on the named, I do like the take on Aspiration that has been made.

While on the topic of Cassiopeia though, it's neat things worked out with out visit to her court. I still kinda want to interact with the princess nidorina when we get the chance, but the wrestling session worked out pretty well. Our soft-boi did good.
Seriously, there's a reason you don't train fellow humans to fight pokemon — but that's not what this is about.
R.I.P Blackbelts.
If we could eventually convince her to let us catch one, what themes combine nidoran and mareep? Evolving into bipeds? Don't touch this?
After this update? I am now stuck with the idea of a Pokemon equivalent to the WWE. Hawlucha is also pretty neat...
I'm horrible at picking favourites, but as far as hills go cyndaquil isn't a bad one.
 
What about a gentle giant theme? Big peacefull pokemon that can dish it out when needed; like the Meganium line, Lapras, Girafarig or Aurorus.
 
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As for the reaction to the Named

-[X][Frisson] You knew Named Pokémon were strong. You knew they were on a whole different level. But actually seeing them... It was like staring up at the stars on an empty field. Like seeing the immensity of space, and realizing, for the first time, just how small you were. Just a speck of dust, floating aimlessly in the cosmos. And yet... Cassiopeia was one of the weakest Named. They wrap the world around them. Knowing that... What could you feel, except excitememt? Like the moment of weightlessness on a rollercoaster, the frisson of thrill just before the drop. Marigold and you would be like that, one day. You would. Seeing the road that awaited you, the challenges that lay ahead... what could you feel, except that?

Man, I just found this quest... and I love it. The writing quality is superb, and I love the gameplay of mainly write-ins. It absolutely plays to the strength of quests and Dnd style games, witch is it's limitless potential. And having a mentor (specially one as interesting as Mel) is so nice, too. We're learning so much, and it's all so interesting!

To someone like Melati, who might generously be called a free spirit, dotes on her pokemon like a proud mother and prizes their independence and character… It's kind of antithetical to everything she finds training to be, even if it isn't necessarily wrong per se.
Then again, what with having been a proper Trainer for all fo a day, you guess it's a little soon for you to tell where you stand on that issue.

But for now, it mostly inspires…

You know, he actually reminds me of Danzo, from Naruto. You know, if he was written with any dreg of complexity. (I love 'Naruto', but for all that we're talking about a militarized dictatorship with actual child soldiers... well, no one who hasn't been reformed has been particularly complex. Like, even Madara was just being manipulated. Sigh~)

Maybe it's me buying into the power of friendship too hard, but the mere thought of having a standardized pattern of training... well, it seems kind of horrific. Like, those are living beings. Individuals! Not to mention the psychological implications of rushing through evolutions like that.

Sure, it's probably not as bad as doing that to say, a child, but we have canonical examples of Pokémon refusing to evolve. And those feelings may be... more or less rational (cough, piplup wanting to keep being cute, cough), but it's a pretty big thing not to have any agency in.

At this precise moment, you think you've just discovered something very important. Something which you might consider the only black mark you have to hold against her. You'll reserve your judgment until you understand what she means better, but you're beginning to get serious hints that Melati sees a good Trainer the same way she sees a good trained pokemon : as something more than its species.

... Yeah, okay. See? This is what I mean when I say this story is so profound, and so good. It's not that it deals with heavy themes, or that it has particularly groundbreaking ideas. It's more that... When I see this, I understand that Melati is a complex, 3 dimensional person. She's got a particular view of seeing the world, she's a developed person with her own thoughts and opinions.

And while I may not agree with all of them, I see the value in them. I don't particularly think that being driven makes a Pokémon (or a trainer) outright better. After all, drive, that spark, doesn't necessarily come with a moral compass to accompany it. Being a wonderful Trainer doesn't make you more, in the same way being smarter, stronger, more talented... doesn't make you better. We're still human, with our own talents and our quirks. And really, without medics to tend to their wounds, tailors to sew their clothes, researchers to find out information about the needs of their Pokémon... would Trainers exist at all? We're like bees, in that way. Alone, the queen themselves would be doomed.

The writing in this quest, man. It's... incredible.

(And this *is* a story, so narrative rules apply, sure. But c'm on, what kind of story would have only one character? Even the random NCP that sell you pokeballs are pretty darn important!

It's a bit of a surprise, until you realise the depressing truth when you think back to that time a family of Pidgey took one look at her and booked it : they're much more scared of her than they are of you. Not that they're wrong to, but one day, just once, you'd like people to look at you and feel threatened. Not that you want to threaten people, you don't want to hurt anyone, it's just… you know ?

Aaah, you sweet, naive summer child. As if. We're going to harness your powers of Soft Boi-ness, until the lowliest of Caterpie will be unintimidated by you! We'll make you the most approachable Trainer, nay, the most approachable CHAMPION!

(I know Joan has a bit of a chip on his shoulder bout it, and while he could simply grow as a trainer so much people'd stop underestimating him, I'd actually love it as a character beat if he grew to recognize that there's nothing wrong with being soft. With being nice. Marigold herself is a lovable floofball that looks like a cinnamon roll (and who can Actually Kill You, or she will be >:)), and she's perfect the way she is.

That's actually my biggest drive towards the Fluffy Theme. It just *screams* character development to me. (And I feel Milotic should totally be included? Find look quite fluffy, after all. And as long as we groom them so that their fur is soft, short-haired Pokémon should totally count, too.)
 
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[X] [Named] Intrigued: the Named Pokémon are something we want to visit and learn more about. Understanding their ability to warp the world will help us be a better trainer by letting us know what to shoot for- and setting up convenient partners for the future

[X] [Training] Mareep enjoys having things bounce off of her. Improve her defense and reaction time by getting her used to bigger and heavier stuff coming at her
 
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Oh yeah, I never chimed in on Bugsy. For the record, I am uncomfortable with his method for Pokémon in general, but for Bug Types it's fine. It perfectly encapsulates the whole mentality of most insects sacrificing themselves for Queen (Bugsy) and Hive (Gym). Also, I feel Bug types are the most likely to not think about evolution as a choice so much as a natural progression, much like real life insect life cycles, both because they evolve so quickly and because it boosts their chances of survival so much. I don't think you'd ever find a Caterpie or Metapod that didn't want to evolve, for example.

In comparison, try to do that with a Dragon Type, and you'd just die nine times out of ten. Even though Dragon types likely view evolution in a similar manner (though more power than survival focused), between Draconic pride/independence and the ridiculously slow growth rates, any trainer attempting this method would end up maimed by an annoyed dragon before anything else.

[X] Aspiration: You want that. That confidence, that awe-inspiring presence. A mountain stood before you, but someday, you swore that you would reach the top, you would demand the World bend to you-and it would Obey.

Man that's so Chuuni. But I've got little time to refine it before my phone dies.
 
[X] Aspiration: You want that. That confidence, that awe-inspiring presence. A mountain stood before you, but someday, you swore that you would reach the top, you would demand the World bend to you-and it would Obey.
 
[X] Aspiration: You want that. That confidence, that awe-inspiring presence. A mountain stood before you, but someday, you swore that you would reach the top, you would demand the World bend to you-and it would Obey.

[X][Plan: Light Em Up!]
-[X] Start off by figuring out what Marigold's upper limits are. How much charge can she store before she can't move? Or simply can't hold any more of a charge?
-[X] From there work into expressing the charge, and try to get across the idea of projecting it in a concentrated form instead of spreading it on the ground. Ask for some help from Yasigi as a safe target.
-[X] Don't go in for trying to train Take Down just yet, as young as she is the backlash of the move could hurt her quite a bit. Just focus on her being able to recognize when she's hitting the point that she needs to shed a charge.
-[X] If we manage to get Marigold to figure out Thundershock, the next step will be control. Making sure that she doesn't blow her entire charge on the first strike.


Are you sure you don't mean anticipation or aspiration? Trepidation is "a feeling of fear or agitation about something that may happen."
 
Are you sure you don't mean anticipation or aspiration? Trepidation is "a feeling of fear or agitation about something that may happen."

Corrected, thanks. English ain't my first language. I mean... the thrill you feel when you're on a rollercoaster, and you hit the peak. The moment you're jumping into the ocean from a small cliff, that weightlessness. Just before you fall. That mix of anticipation and fear.
 
[X][Plan: Light Em Up!]
-[X] Start off by figuring out what Marigold's upper limits are. How much charge can she store before she can't move? Or simply can't hold any more of a charge?
-[X] From there work into expressing the charge, and try to get across the idea of projecting it in a concentrated form instead of spreading it on the ground. Ask for some help from Yasigi as a safe target.
-[X] Don't go in for trying to train Take Down just yet, as young as she is the backlash of the move could hurt her quite a bit. Just focus on her being able to recognize when she's hitting the point that she needs to shed a charge.
-[X] If we manage to get Marigold to figure out Thundershock, the next step will be control. Making sure that she doesn't blow her entire charge on the first strike.
[X] Aspiration: You want that. That confidence, that awe-inspiring presence. A mountain stood before you, but someday, you swore that you would reach the top, you would demand the World bend to you-and it would Obey.
 
'Aight, had to vamoose straight after posting but I'm back.

The whole Named thing makes me wonder how Pokémon Rangers work with them. And how the Ranger Corps works here in general.
I guess the closest equivalent I can think of is that they're like a jacked-up neighbourhood watch for pokemon. Their job is more of a recon and surveillance one, and their interventions tend to be on the smaller side - stuff like diverting a migrating herd if it's going to hit a settlement, addressing imbalances in the ecosystem, driving off mons that would be dangerous for civilians when they near inhabited areas, clearing out the more travelled roads... They also frequently work in collaboration with scientific authorities as their primary partner when it comes to pokemon field research and observation.

That said, at the end of the day, when it's something they call in someone better, hand over the info and get away as quick as possible. Usually it's the local Gym Leader, but it can be some specialised Trainers if the issue lends itself to it. They also do have their own Named Trainers, but the Johto Corps don't have any particularly notable ones.

I considered "are in both the Field and Monster Egg Groups" to line up with that softboi/steel spine contrast we're going for, but that's a really narrow theme, only four evolutionary lines; the Nidorans, Mareep, and Whismur.

There's the Rhyhorn line too, actually. Fun fact : if Marigold had been older, her sharing both her Egg groups with the Nidoran line would have absolutely come up. It was a complete accident too : I only realised that was the case when I looked up the Field group again for that tidbit about Mareep sharing Egg groups with most snake pokemon.

I can see a mythology student reconsidering every old myth he knows by taking into account that pokemons can build societies on their own and how domesticated pokemons could cause issues between human and pokemon groups. It might not be out of our reach to work on an alternative history book on human societies by taking pokemons as political actors.

Hmm... I can see why'd that get him thinking, but it's worth keeping in mind that it's not so much a society of Nidoran he saw as a society built by Cassiopeia. At the end of the day, if she were to suddenly disappear, the whole thing as is would probably collapse soon enough, or at least become severely less organised. Unless they're exemplars of the species, they can be made to act according to the rules of a society but not really think it up themselves. There's some exceptions, of course, but even in old myths there's vanishingly few instances of Pokemon-only civilisations. That said, it could get him to seriously rethink some myths about old kingdoms where human and pokemon were said to have the same standing.

Alternatively, we could specialize in the Field group, which is also a fairly diverse set of mon, including Best Starter Cyndaquil (Fite me, I will die on this hill) the Eeveelutions, even Mightyena.
I mean I'm the person who makes Gen 2-only teams on Showdown, forced you all to start in Johto and whose first game they didn't have to share with their sister ever was Pokemon Crystal, so honestly that looks like a pretty good hill to me. I was so glad Cyndaquil got to be one of the PL:A starters and got a little life breathed back into him, even if the Hisui form is... what it is. That said, my first ever 'mon was Totodile, and the first starter I actually fully evolved instead of deleting my save file like an idiot was Chikorita, so my loyalties are there ^^

This is, of course, assuming that egg groups work the same way in quest as they usually do.
The subtleties are obviously a bit more complex, but Egg groups exist and are considered the standard classification for a pokemon's capacity to reproduce with another. The only main difference is that the Human-like group is referred to as Humanoid, because too many Psychic-types clever enough to understand the comparison weren't very flattered.

After this update? I am now stuck with the idea of a Pokemon equivalent to the WWE. Hawlucha is also pretty neat...
Pokemon lucha libre exists ! It's pretty damn niche, though, as it's pretty much exclusively practiced in Alola. Kukui-- I mean, the illustrious Masked Royal came up with it as a natural extension of sorts of his arena persona alongside all his other wacky tourism schemes. This has actually led to a sizeable colony of Hawlucha settling in Alola. The kahunas weren't very impressed.

In comparison, try to do that with a Dragon Type, and you'd just die nine times out of ten. Even though Dragon types likely view evolution in a similar manner (though more power than survival focused), between Draconic pride/independence and the ridiculously slow growth rates, any trainer attempting this method would end up maimed by an annoyed dragon before anything else.
I mean it's worth remembering that you couldn't actually do that with a Dragon-type, because they're so slow to evolve. It only works with Bug type because they evolve so quick you can attempt to make sure they don't have time to gain any bad habits in their larval and/or pupal stage, but no matter how quickly you tried to blaze through a Bagon or Dratini's evolutions you'd never be fast enough to succeed and you'd have pissed off your dragon.
 
Oh @ReverendSwing how are fossil mon perceived here? Like, what's the public opinion on them, and the rarity of being able to revive one?
 
@TempestK they're rare as heck, and are usually discussed as though they're extinct, even if they technically aren't quite. Small populations exist in very remote corners, although any that have been found are very jealously guarded - the most famous being the Aerodactyl eyries claimed by the Dragon Clan, who are generally understood to treat any attempt at entering the area without authorisation as a sincere plea for disappearing without a trace or a body to be found.

They've lost a tiny bit of their lustre in recent decades when the scientists at Cinnabar Lab managed to work out how to revive them, but much like artificial evolutions, there's something missing no one can quite figure out, and they're distinctly less impressive than their natural counterparts. Not to mention the kind of money and contacts you need to have to be allowed the chance of owning one of those - not everyone has Oak on speed dial. But most of the fossil pokemon who made it to the modern day were the apex species of a time where pokemon ruled the entire planet, so it's generally understood that you treat them with a good deal of respect if you ever have the incredible fortune of stumbling upon one in the wild.
 
[X][Plan: Light Em Up!]
[X][Frisson]
Mild disappointment that it isn't called Shock and Awe, but I'm sure we'll get the chance.

Thundershock is a good goal because it gives Marigold a distance option for when an opponent refuses to close in (which can be quiet important as we saw in Joan's nido match).

Soft boi, hard core (just wanted to say this).

Also how big a reference to PGTE are these Named mechanics >_>
 
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[X] Aspiration: You want that. That confidence, that awe-inspiring presence. A mountain stood before you, but someday, you swore that you would reach the top, you would demand the World bend to you-and it would Obey.

[X][Plan: Light Em Up!]
-[X] Start off by figuring out what Marigold's upper limits are. How much charge can she store before she can't move? Or simply can't hold any more of a charge?
-[X] From there work into expressing the charge, and try to get across the idea of projecting it in a concentrated form instead of spreading it on the ground. Ask for some help from Yasigi as a safe target.
-[X] Don't go in for trying to train Take Down just yet, as young as she is the backlash of the move could hurt her quite a bit. Just focus on her being able to recognize when she's hitting the point that she needs to shed a charge.
-[X] If we manage to get Marigold to figure out Thundershock, the next step will be control. Making sure that she doesn't blow her entire charge on the first strike.

Another possinlbletheme us training pokemon to use electricity.
or mystery
 
[X] Aspiration: You want that. That confidence, that awe-inspiring presence. A mountain stood before you, but someday, you swore that you would reach the top, you would demand the World bend to you-and it would Obey.
[X][Plan: Light Em Up!]

Personally I think it's still to early to decide on a theme, we're still getting our feet under ourselves and learning the very basics of being a trainer. We can build a basic foundation before deciding what to build on said foundation.
 
[X] Aspiration: You want that. That confidence, that awe-inspiring presence. A mountain stood before you, but someday, you swore that you would reach the top, you would demand the World bend to you-and it would Obey.

[X][Plan: Light Em Up!]
 
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[X] Aspiration: You want that. That confidence, that awe-inspiring presence. A mountain stood before you, but someday, you swore that you would reach the top, you would demand the World bend to you-and it would Obey.

[X][Plan: Light Em Up!]
 
I mean it's worth remembering that you couldn't actually do that with a Dragon-type, because they're so slow to evolve. It only works with Bug type because they evolve so quick you can attempt to make sure they don't have time to gain any bad habits in their larval and/or pupal stage, but no matter how quickly you tried to blaze through a Bagon or Dratini's evolutions you'd never be fast enough to succeed and you'd have pissed off your dragon.
Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
 
[X] Aspiration: You want that. That confidence, that awe-inspiring presence. A mountain stood before you, but someday, you swore that you would reach the top, you would demand the World bend to you-and it would Obey.

[X][Plan: Light Em Up!]

I kinda want a Magikarp because our mentor has a Gyarados so it'd be easier to learn proper training & care.
 
[X] Aspiration: You want that. That confidence, that awe-inspiring presence. A mountain stood before you, but someday, you swore that you would reach the top, you would demand the World bend to you-and it would Obey.
[X][Plan: Light Em Up!]
 
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