Animus Ex Nihilo - A God Quest
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- United States
This doesn't do as much to address the long-term causes of the famine as I'd like. Sure we can herd the fishers to the richest grounds, but this is only a temporary reprieve. The people back home still have unenhanced plants and goats. If we boost those we hopefully won't need to worry about another famine in the near future.
1. But it will take time and effort to make people realize that. The only undead people know about here is the town destroying type. So convincing anyone they are not that will take extra work.
2. And how long will that last if people do not feel safe giving us their dead? If nothing else I'm sure they could import rituals from the mountains through the travelers or make new ones.
3. Why? We fought the devourer off before without death before why do we need death to fight it now? And even if we do we have other actions to experiment with death than making undead.
And that does not even go into what is still my biggest concern. That the devourer is just as good at death as we are if not better. And it likes to eat the dead. So storing power and creating undead minions seems more like creating another way for the devourer to attack us than something useful in fighting it.
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- United States
1. I think by now we have enough of a track record of protection that we'll be given the benefit of doubt.
2. It's a possibility, but not as big of one as you're making it out to be. As long as we continue to hold up our end of the bargain by answering the prayers of the bereaved we should be holding most of the cards. There are very real manifestations of power during these rituals.
3. Okay, so this carrion bird thing we just killed? It was stronger in Death than us. And Azel confirmed outright that we fought it by messing with its Death essence and distracting it. For all its might it was created by the Devourer, meaning he has at least Rank 3 if not more. Secondly, we fought off the Devourer back when it was way weaker, before it was using undead at all. That is obviously not the case anymore, he has grown strong enough to create servitors that can go toe to toe with us, which is terrifying. Thirdly, studying undeath means we'll also know how best it's unmade. It's a tool just like any other, and if we put in the effort it'll be one we can deny the Devourer.
All this aside, guiding the fishers is only a temporary reprieve. We need to bless the plants and animals so that the people quit starving when we're distracted.
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- They
[X] Plan Rest, and Recuperation
- Location
- Germany
1. Successor actions are Imbuing Sealife and Bless Goats, so, yes, but actually, no.
2. You have no idea.
3. It's the only methods you are aware of at least. Well. And outsourcing to other spirits of course.
- Location
- Poland
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- He/Him
[X] Plan Protector of the People
- Location
- United States
@Metempsychosis, would you consider allocating one of the two Bless Fishers powers into enhancing the plants or the goats? We're very likely going to be distracted next turn with dealing with the Devourer, we need the people to be a bit more resilient to famine.
Sir LagsAlot
Yandere Dice Magnet
- Location
- In the fridge
...You, know when I went to bed after posting my plan the last thing I expected was to wake up to the winning plan being one that just throws fish at our people rather than trying to address why we just had a famine. I warned that our inland food supply was stressing our people's ability to feed themselves, last turn guys, and that still hasn't changed in fact it lead to a famine that my plan at the time could have avoided.
And, now that we know we'll be away from our people more often it isn't enough to just throw fish at our people anymore after all there's a reason the saying "Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime" exists. With, that in mind we should be taking actions that permanently boost our food supply like blessing plants and blessing animals such as goats so that our people can better feed themselves even when we're not there to fill their nets which also has the added benefit of increasing our people's population, and therefore the amount of power we'll gain from them in the long term as well.
All, of which makes such endeavors a far better use of our power than blowing it all on filling our people's nets for a single turn before they go back to fending for themselves, on trying to consolidate burial rituals which we've already cemented among our people with a recent double down or on blowing power trying to recruit new worshipers in a population that already worships us who even when we've blessed them in the past we've made zero ground up with.
And, now that we know we'll be away from our people more often it isn't enough to just throw fish at our people anymore after all there's a reason the saying "Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime" exists. With, that in mind we should be taking actions that permanently boost our food supply like blessing plants and blessing animals such as goats so that our people can better feed themselves even when we're not there to fill their nets which also has the added benefit of increasing our people's population, and therefore the amount of power we'll gain from them in the long term as well.
All, of which makes such endeavors a far better use of our power than blowing it all on filling our people's nets for a single turn before they go back to fending for themselves, on trying to consolidate burial rituals which we've already cemented among our people with a recent double down or on blowing power trying to recruit new worshipers in a population that already worships us who even when we've blessed them in the past we've made zero ground up with.
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- Location
- United States
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- He/Him
We were away from them for some time and we've seen that things can shift over the years of a turn. Additionally this rite is even more important now that The Devourer is going about actively animating dead, and this action doesn't just reinforce the rite, it aids the family of the dead, it limits further death, we literally empower the bodies of those that have lost loved ones. Additionally our dead being in the sea is a net benefit, because the Devourer noticed we have been protecting and gathering much more of the energy from the dead, they are less likely to attempt to steal from us, and we want the Devourer to enter the waters ultimately if we're actually going to have a full opportunity to fight it, so even if they do tricking this creature is just good form.
I will admit that maybe 2 points is too much.
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Sorry for the group ping but each of you are voting for my plan, I understand that some have pointed out with fair evidence that 2 points into Blessing the Bereaved may be too many at this exact juncture. I was wondering what you all would think of moving 1 point into any of the following:
- Bless Goats
- Aid Harsh Mountain
- Imbue power into sea life for later use.
Blessing Goats is extra food to fight the famine, Aiding the Mountain is improving a relationship, and Imbuing for later while only 1 point is still saving a point for later.
This will only be 1 point of power, but if there is a clear trend among this group I think it is fine to change, but I am very against not discussing changing a plan with those voting for that plan so I ask for your opinions, thank you.
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- Lasha Tumbai
Primarily voting for your plan over the others due to the action towards trying to learn more about the nature of our powers, so switch away - good with any of those.
That is fine by me, I think we should focus more on growth.
i would like the plan more if you moved a point into this
I don't particularly care since I'm voting for the research and any of the options here are useful. Choose what you want.
Eisenhelm
gran dutch of douchery
- Location
- Colombia
seems reasonable.
DittoAs long as you don't make undead it's fine by me