Can we buy Ruphas without installling the Goddess' system and destroy the spirit plane without punching the multiverse into oblivion?
The dungeon is not that much of a problem, spread magicules across more floors to lessen the concentration or make magicule tanks and it should be okay
I don t really understand why the spirit plane is a problem Spirits like humans(especially heroes) and actively help them when they can
Faultline and the others are preparing to depart for their other missions.
Their new recruit Emily was appointed to take care of Elle.
It seems like today is like any other day. Though Emily seems to have forgotten to put Elle out of her lucidity.
It is not that bad. It needs a long time before things takes effects on the whole surroundings.
But something weird happened on that time.
Elle's power was supposed to be dependent on her mental state. Whenever she entered a state of lucidity, which is always by the way, the area surrounding her will change depending on her mood.
It is only limited with a feet in her position. If she stayed still though, her area of effect will expand and possibly change her whole environment. The changes will become permanent if this effect continue for a long time.
That's why someone always takes care of making her aware on this world.
Now though, it seems like this weird thing suddenly happened.
It seems like Elle stumbled into a world which seems to be a complex maze full of funny traps and some such.
The thing is though, there are some horrible things there like giant insects or demon-looking people.
Instead of running though, she became too curious at this place. She take walk in this complex maze while ignoring the monsters idly walking through the halls of this complex maze.
She was taken out of her state after Emily remembered to put her out of it. Though after taking her mind out of it, they suddenly felt a bit weak.
Then it turned worse.
It seems like Elle's ability did something that was supposed to be impossible. She pulled up something in that complex maze after she was taken out of her lucidity by Emily.
That something is a large centipede that looms on them and seems to be going to spit something on their way.
Emily made a quick judgement and spew fire at it's face. After the monster got distracted by the fire, she grabs Elle with her arms and rush out of the room.
After that, some things happened and now they are running away and leaving the Palanquin.
"I think someone already called the PRT to deal with it." Faultline said before continuing. "I'm sure they'll blame us about this event. We should get out of this city and let things cool down before coming back." She said to them.
"Damn... what's that? An alien?" It was Newter who said that.
"Hmm... it's clearly not like us. It felt more like a beast when it was trying to reach us." Gregor said in contemplation.
"Spitfire here said it just pops up out of nowhere after waking Labyrinth out of her phases." Newter said.
"It's true! That freak suddenly pops out of nowhere! It's creepy!" Spitfire said in a panic.
"Calm down. We're already out there and safe...." Faultline said before looking at Labyrinth. "... by the way, what is that?"
They turned their attention back at Labyrinth and see her just looking slightly above where a silver wisp of light was spinning around her.
"... Cute." Labyrinth muttered.
"... Well, it kept following and not doing anything since we left our base." Newter said. "It's harmless, I think?" He continued with a curious tone.
Labyrinth felt comfortable as this wisp of light accompanies. Even though she can't understand what it's trying to convey, she thinks it's not that bad.
Labyrinth knows this light is a product of her power. It seems like she manage to pull it out of the other place that she stumbled into during their escape from the Palanquin.
She didn't know why but the two places that she stumbled into seems to be closer than the ones she is dreaming about when in her usual nightmares.
When she stumbled into those places, it felt so easy to bring it within this space, unlike the other ones. It is so easy that she is unconsciously doing it.
"Anyway, let's leave now before some heroes located us." Faultline said.
Then they continue on their steps without looking back.
Just a small intermission to see what's happening.
If you remember, Ramiris' dungeon can be considered as another world. The Spiritual World also exist in another dimension.
Due to some Shard shenanigans, Labyrinth's power managed to pull on those and felt that it was nearer than the other worlds she is trying to pull into.
Can we buy Ruphas without installling the Goddess' system and destroy the spirit plane without punching the multiverse into oblivion?
The dungeon is not that much of a problem, spread magicules across more floors to lessen the concentration or make magicule tanks and it should be okay
I don t really understand why the spirit plane is a problem Spirits like humans(especially heroes) and actively help them when they can
Given LevelGap most recent post I don't think we have a choice about things now, Magicules are spreading beyond us, and the chance to halt things has officially passed. Mind Slimes world is super strong and I don't think the Goddess system would come out on top of things if they clashed.
Would it be possible to create a second dungeon in the ocean and funnel the excess magiculules from this dungeon into the ocean one? Out of sight, out of mind! Maximum chaos!
It is possible to move your dungeon to other place.
Ramiris even did that on the WN (if I remember correctly). After leaving the Dwelling of the Spirits, she changed her Dungeon's location to Tempest after getting Rimuru's permission.
The only limit to this is that Ramiris must be in that area and build their dungeon there. Which means you need to go to the ocean first if you want to change your dungeon's location.
[X] Plan: the best Witch.
-[X]Buy a new form:
--[X] Echidna
-[X] Create an artefact that will quickly and painlessly freeze all monsters in ice. Create a separate floor to store them and place them there.
-[X] Create a device that will absorb and store excess mana from the dungeon.
-[X] Check out the Spiritual World. Try to prevent the spirits from leaving now.
-[X]Check if the monsters have left the dungeon. If so, use your new form to find and return them.
--[X]Erase the memories for all possible witnesses.
--[X] Do the same for the spirits.
-[X] If someone escaped, find out how, using the Book of Wisdom and try to eliminate the vulnerability.
Well, it happened absurdly fast. Like, not even half a day has passed! The fun part started faster than I suspected.
I don't want to kill the monsters because it's kind of our fault that they are here in the first place.
I thought about Sophia, but I remembered D and changed my mind. Ruphas has a similar problem. And all of their systems encourage killing. And it bothers me a little that we can get she now, when, in theory, she can defeat the Warrior. Is Zion suddenly demoted to an interim boss? Has Alovenus adjusted the price tags so we are more likely to get this shape? Both options are a bit creepy.
I do not know what will be the result of the destruction of the Spiritual world. Like, even if there were no spirits, the World itself was already there. If all life on Earth Bet begins to rapidly die because of such an act, I would not be surprised.
Looks at the interlude ... Yes, Miss Echidna, may I ask for your help?
The "OH SHIT!" moment has arrived earlier that i thought it would... We must fix this! Probably going to just make it all worse, but it wouldn't be a quest if things didn't go to shit at unexpected moments...
[x] [x] Plan Fixing mistakes. -[x] Buy form --[x] Ruphas Mafahl (2,000,000 EXP) -[x]Deal with this right now! --[x] Head down and try and collapse the Spiritual World. , if that does not work try using Ruphas form --[x] Unmake the dungeon and leave and head outside and unenchant all the items.
Words can not express how bad an idea Echidna is. If we are officially throwing out any caution then lets just buy up all sub 100k forms
Did some counting and all forms 100k and bellow are 108 total and cost 1,683,360. Given that the pattern holds of increasing points for forms of 1,000 every time with the first being 5,000 buying all 108 will give us points 6,431,000 - 1,683360 = +4,747,640 points from buying forms. Letting us buy some very powerful forms
I think you overestimate how bad things are right now. There is only one confirmed escape of the monster and the spirit, and that happened in rather specific circumstances. Nothing that Echidna cannot handle with the help of the Book of Wisdom and her magic. And the chaos that the Star Dragon system can cause is only a pale shadow of the chaos that the Goddess system can cause. Yeah, that's where you get experience from kills. I'm not talking about the Goddess herself, who can decide that this world is required in her "care".
And why destroy the Spiritual World? In the worst case, you can simply seal it or its inhabitants.
Honestly, despite the name, plan Fixing mistakes does not fix any of our mistakes, like the escape of monsters.
Thou on the topic of forms to get I am very interested in Sion (1,000,000 EXP) She is the ablity to granting access to her world system which is a random power.
[X] Plan: the best Witch.
-[X]Buy a new form:
--[X] Echidna
-[X] Create an artefact that will quickly and painlessly freeze all monsters in ice. Create a separate floor to store them and place them there.
-[X] Create a device that will absorb and store excess mana from the dungeon.
-[X] Check out the Spiritual World. Try to prevent the spirits from leaving now.
-[X]Check if the monsters have left the dungeon. If so, use your new form to find and return them.
--[X]Erase the memories for all possible witnesses.
--[X] Do the same for the spirits.
-[X] If someone escaped, find out how, using the Book of Wisdom and try to eliminate the vulnerability.
Yeah don't think panicking and destroying a spirit world would count as solving a problem. Something like that would at least cause an earthquake at least. This is the last time we are buying anything overpowered. We discussed, we concluded magicules is not dangerous, and boom it's poisonus and created a spirit world. At least this one is somewhat contained unlike the nanomagic.
[X] Plan: the best Witch.
-[X]Buy a new form:
--[X] Echidna
-[X] Create an artefact that will quickly and painlessly freeze all monsters in ice. Create a separate floor to store them and place them there.
-[X] Create a device that will absorb and store excess mana from the dungeon.
-[X] Check out the Spiritual World. Try to prevent the spirits from leaving now.
-[X]Check if the monsters have left the dungeon. If so, use your new form to find and return them.
--[X]Erase the memories for all possible witnesses.
--[X] Do the same for the spirits.
-[X] If someone escaped, find out how, using the Book of Wisdom and try to eliminate the vulnerability
I rather still keep the dungeon plus there's tons of method to resolve the monster issues.
Scheduled vote count started by Levelgap on Aug 25, 2021 at 12:39 PM, finished with 29 posts and 12 votes.
[X] Plan: the best Witch.
-[X]Buy a new form:
--[X] Echidna
-[X] Create an artefact that will quickly and painlessly freeze all monsters in ice. Create a separate floor to store them and place them there.
-[X] Create a device that will absorb and store excess mana from the dungeon.
-[X] Check out the Spiritual World. Try to prevent the spirits from leaving now.
-[X]Check if the monsters have left the dungeon. If so, use your new form to find and return them.
--[X]Erase the memories for all possible witnesses.
--[X] Do the same for the spirits.
-[X] If someone escaped, find out how, using the Book of Wisdom and try to eliminate the vulnerability.
[x] Plan Fixing mistakes. -[x] Buy form --[x] Ruphas Mafahl (2,000,000 EXP) -[x]Deal with this right now! --[x] Head down and try and collapse the Spiritual World. , if that does not work try using Ruphas form --[x] Unmake the dungeon and leave and head outside and unenchant all the items.
[x] [x] Plan Fixing mistakes. -[x] Buy form --[x] Ruphas Mafahl (2,000,000 EXP) -[x]Deal with this right now! --[x] Head down and try and collapse the Spiritual World. , if that does not work try using Ruphas form --[x] Unmake the dungeon and leave and head outside and unenchant all the items.
I wonder... maybe I can fix this using my other forms?
Or wait, maybe there is a form here that can take care of all of these.
Ramiris have a lot of things she can do despite being a lot cheaper than Shizuku.
Though, maybe Shizuku also have a lot of things she can do that I didn't know about?
Are the cost of these characters reflects how strong they are? Or maybe it reflects how much they can do?
If I go by that logic maybe the expensive ones can help me in my dilemma!
Let's see. I already have 2,000,000+ EXP. It might be a good idea to pick someone with that price.
I don't know who are these people. I just learned yesterday that they are sentient after all. Not just something that I can turn into because of power shenanigans.
Let's see... maybe I'll just pick Echidna. It was a dangerous sounding name, but maybe she have something that can help me with this mess. I'm hoping she do.
I pick Echidna, which costs me 2,000,000 EXP. Then I changed into her....
[Ninth Form Acquired]+5,000 EXP
[Book of Wisdom "Re: Zero"]+500,000 EXP
"Oh...."
Knowledge. A lot more knowledge came inside my mind.
It's not just scientific ones. There are also knowledge about magic, spirits, curses, and even gods.
It's overwhelming. There are tons of knowledge inside my mind and somehow, it doesn't even faze me.
Like I am used to it.
Hmmm.... though, this also felt weird...
The World's System created by the Star Dragon is something new to me... or, this form's knowledge it seems.
I try to recall some of Ramiris' knowledge and all I learn is that every ability in this world... well, in her world specifically, it works because of this system that the Star Dragon created.
It needs Magicules of course, but the system simplifies a lot of things.
It's not a part of the knowledge that I got after turning into Echidna, though thanks to being able to recall all the knowledge that I acquire when using the other forms, I managed to learn about it.
And now I am very curious about it. Like totally curious about it.
It's not just the system. Even the magic, Spiritual World, monsters, and even this whole dungeon is a subject of curiosity for me.
But I don't need this knowledge. I need a way to limit the damages here.
Let's see... is there anything that this form can do to help me?
"Oh, what's this book I wonder?"
I just noticed that I am carrying a book. Is this Echidna's?
I take a look at it and then.... I know!
"This is the Book of Wisdom... huh..." I muttered to myself.
Going deep into Echidna's knowledge, it seems like this book is connected to the world itself. It's memories specifically.
The Star Dragon's System has been created through unknown means after some of the monsters in this dungeon got the requirement to evolve. The origin of the Star Dragon's System is unknown, though it is possible that the mysterious fairy, which means Ramiris' form awhile ago, is the cause of the emergence of this system.
Along with it's emergence is the Spiritual World connected to this world. It also appeared out of nowhere after the mysterious fairy appeared out of nowhere.
That's what I learned on the book anyway.
Wait. Then it means that the world didn't know that I am changing forms?
I look for the individual named Taylor Anne Hebert and it seems like the book says I am already dead since January 10, 2011.
It didn't state anything about me coming back to life. The only reference point I got to it is that "A mysterious girl appeared out of nowhere above the grave of Taylor Anne Hebert".
How curious. It's like the world didn't recognize that I am Taylor Hebert.
I am more curious about this but for now, I should go back to the original topic. Taking care of this mess.
Let's see... After taking my time on reading through things, I finally made a plan to limit the cause of this mess.
First, I need to take care of the monsters.
Luckily, monsters won't overpopulate the dungeon. An area only spawns monsters until there are enough of them for the Magicules to sustain them.
And there are enough monsters now on the first floor. So even if I freeze them, no more monsters will spawn. Unless, the monsters were somehow reduced inside my dungeon.
So I'll freeze them.
This form seems to have a convenient ability. I am capable of creating "Metia", or esoteric Tinkertechs if I go by this world's term.
Though I need a large amount of Magic Power to do it and also the right materials for it, I have enough of it.
Most of the things in this dungeon were changing. Most of the things in this dungeon are now made of Demon Steel.
And, while not something that Echidna seems to know, it seems like I can use it as a replacement to materials that this form seems to have a knowledge of.
I took one of those Demon Steels and then shape it, mold it, and engraved it with the right symbols before finally giving it's ability.
Well, I put Huma as the based spell, and then made it so it can freeze everything in it's path, something that is a lot more stronger than Al Huma.
[Parallel Combination] +1,000 EXP
I made some restrictions. It won't kill the living things that it hits, only freezes them until the magic on the surrounding area vanishes.
I learned from the Book of Wisdom that Magicules and Mana are different. Also, I can't use the Magicules on the surroundings despite having a vast knowledge of magic.
Echidna's magic seems to only work when Mana is used. Magicules won't let me do anything when I try to use it.
That doesn't mean I can't use it!
Magicules are still esoteric energies. Energies are things that powers other things.
Which means, it can be used as a way to sustain the ice created by this Metia.
This Metia's appearance is simple. It looks like a sturdy rod, a meter in length.
I don't have a name for it yet. Maybe I'll call it Freezer or something?
Anyway, with this Metia, I will freeze all the monsters on the first floor. After that, I'll do the next steps on preventing this problem from expanding. The whole first floor has been frozen. Though this dungeon didn't regard me as a hostile despite doing that.
It seems like wearing this scarf that makes my weaker forms immune to Magicules concentrated areas makes this dungeon recognize me as a friendly, despite technically harming the monsters living inside it.
Well, it's convenient so I won't complain about that.
Now then, next is creating another Metia, this one will act as a Magic Tank.
This one's easy. All I need is an object that can store Magicules inside it. Mana and Magicules might be different, but they still mostly work the same.
So I can just create a Magic Tank using the equivalent of Pyroxene Crystal in this dungeon.
The equivalent of Pyroxene Crystal, based on the book, are Magic Crystals. Specifically, those higher class magic crystals.
Unlike Pyroxene however, it can only contain Magicules and Spirits.
Anyway, by just tweaking it for a bit, I manage to create Magic Crystals that can absorb the surrounding Magicules and make the area more stable that even a human can stay here, though not for a long period of time.
As for the Spiritual World. I don't have any power to close it. It seems like if I really wanted to close it, I need to do it using Ramiris' form.
They won't even listen to me. Unlike the Spirits that this form seems to know, the spirits on the Spiritual World are different.
They don't work through Contracts. They are a free spirited bunch who will pick whoever they like and leave whenever they want. Unlike what Echidna knows, which are spirits who, when under a Contract, can't leave this out without fulfilling their end of the bargain. The Spirits that Ramiris knows are a lot more free.
Only through [Summoning], or the equivalent skill like [Domination] or [Usurpation] that a spirit will be bound by someone. All of this are part of the Star Dragon's System.
In short, they won't listen to me.
I don't know what Echidna can do. I think I might be able to scare them, but that will just cause them to escape and essentially spread themselves all over the world.
I can't even put them inside a container. They have so much freedom that only skills can put them in control.
Skills that this form is lacking.
I'll change into Ramiris later to deal with that. I think, based on what I see on the book, that she is highly respected by spirits even if they are newborns.
Anyway, next thing on the list is to see if there are any monsters who got outside the dungeon.
Well, I already know there is one. In fact, it's already defeated by the heroes from the PRT.
I can return the dead monster back to this dungeon and erase the memories of everyone who sees it and who will possibly witness it.
In fact, I can also erase the memories of those spirits, though it will be useless because those are newborns. Newborn spirits doesn't have an ego.
But I think that's bad. I can't possibly do that to innocent people.
They'll label me as a villain if it was ever discovered that I did something like erasing memories!
Though, it is the best way to ensure that no one can discover it.
What to do?
[]Erase everyone's memory about this, even those who got a glimpse of the escaped spirit and the dead monster (Echidna) -[]After that, begin experimentation for this new world (Echidna)
--[]Experiment against the people here (Echidna) ---[]Try and integrate yourself from the Star Dragon's System as Echidna (Echidna)
[]Don't. That's not how a hero works!
[]Write-In
[x]Don't. That's not how a hero works!
-[X]Away with thee, ye witch! Lock down Echidna form until no other choice remains.
-[x] Try to go to the PRT to work despite being late.
Dont let that Witch take control, it will not end well.
Jesus I thought the form couldn't influence Taylor too much while she was in control, I guess I underestimated it.