Money and Power: A Xianxia Merchant Quest

Interesting... How about these changes for the Orders Plan, then:

[] Orders Plan "Sensible and Humane Management"
-[] Veto "Cut charity spending"
-[] Order to "Reorganize charity spending to be more efficient and sustainable"
-[] Veto "Cut superfluous employees"
-[] Order to "Reassign the superfluous employees to other useful tasks"
-[] Order to "Launch an investigation about the previous activities of these employees"

If it looks like any of them don't work, we can always re-Order them next Quarter to little inconvenience, no? We can simply see how it goes, basically.

As for the Decision regarding our mother, I'm a bit worried about "consulting with her on the exact scope and duties" of her position. She seems to be very power-hungry. Could we narrow down the title so there's less room for interpretation, perhaps? Like Charity Director instead of Head of PR, maybe? Charity Fund Manager?
The QM's description of her abilities was:
Your mother knows a large collection of primarily mental and social techniques but she has been slow to build pillars. Her foundation involved entering and building a dreamworld like self-scape. You know she can sense emotions even without visual cues, she has a mental defense technique, and she can attack people's minds directly, disorienting them. As far as you know she does not have a Mastery Technique but does have three pillars. Her cultivation talent is considered adequate but unimpressive. As far as her skills you're not completely sure what she learned as a mortal but you get snippets that she had a hard life before your father dramatically rescued and married her. She seems smart, insightful particularly about the motivations of others, and unflappable. On the business end she didn't have much of a direct role but she oversaw many of your father's charities. She's therefore somewhat popular in the clan and extremely popular as a public figure representing you.
Beside the PR/Charity related aspects, what does this suggest? Something to do with interrogation or, more tamely, interviewing? Human Resources? Some kind of networking position I can't think of?
 
[X] Orders Plan "Sensible and Humane Management"

Decisions:

[X] Let it go for now
[X] Training clan guards
[X] Give her something else: Head of PR

[X] Actions Plan "Priority to Our Priority"

Alright! People are changing their plans so Imma follow it too.
 
I think your paranoia is unjustified, personally, and I would much prefer it if you kept the Reforging, especially if you want Oku to be our personal guard (which will eventually make it so she'll be with us when we're weak, anyway). I kind of like that combination and I think that all the signs point to the fact that she's supporting us for now. I would go so far as to say that the QM outright said so, even, made it clear. I get the appeal of not skipping our personal cultivation, and like I said in the post in which I voted, I wouldn't mind switching Oversight to something else. I would be on board with Reforging + Build Infrastructure + Honor Guard. (You should plan-vote for Actions, though,

It was originally Reforging + Build Infrastructure + Caravan escort with the hope that the combined choices would help make the forest trip safer when we had to go in. It was only after you talked about not dropping charity and keeping the dead beat employees that I looked at the costs and realized that with -20 gold a turn without spending any cash on improvements Reforging would have us bankrupt before we even got to the forest. If you can convince me that we can still afford the crash rebuilds then I'll consider switching back to Reforging.

The only way paranoia comes into this is from the fact that we don't have her loyalty yet we've only gotten the chance to win it and showing vulnerability in such a way is easy to backfire when we haven't created more then a basic relationship of might not as bad as the rest of the family.

For what concerns the costs/income, that's what the Purpose is all about. That's what's gonna net us some money, and in the much better form of income rather than reserves. Investments bring income. We should make use of our reserves, right now, not replenish them, in my opinion.

The one investment action is something that I'm willing to do in my plan as a support of the main goal because of how useful it is even though I want to focus on our cultivation with our free actions. It's the second free action that I have a problem with because it both doesn't do what I want progress our cultivation and honestly I don't think it does what you want improve our income either.

If your goal is improving our income then I would have chosen charm partners which can explicitly do both income improvements and a stability increase and is listed on our character sheet as a strength. I wouldn't have both oversight and then proceed to block Cut superfluous employees because the two options have synergy. Oversight is looking into corruption and cut superfluous employees is removing employees that don't do there jobs and by using a veto to block the order well also using our personal time to investigate it feels like your going to cause a huge relationship hit and assorted stability loss when it isn't at all necessary or even wanted.

For what concerns the Diamond, remember that the vote was a raffle, so a random result from a meta standpoint. From a story standpoint, instead, it might have been what our father had on hand (which would likely mean it wasn't necessarily meant for Merging) or what our brother, mother and us were able to get on super short notice and under great pressure. I'm not saying it's bad, by any means. All I'm saying is that I don't know if we want to stick to it. Given the flexibility our Foundation Technique gives us, it feels bad to invest in it so soon, without knowing a little bit about what we could be missing out on.

I'm aware enough of myself that if some of the other votes had won I would more interested in finding an alternative but I'm happy enough with diamond that I am unlikely to support one personally. There's a lot I want to see with diamond and I would rather explore it then throw it away for something new.
 
Switching away from Diamond won't be an option unless you find a method to make merging less risky or find something so special it makes the risks worthwhile. Otherwise it's just relitigating the raffle / a trap choice.
 
It was my original plan to focus on surviving our trip to the forest over working to restore our clan and I allowed myself to be drawn away from that plan. That was a mistake that I won't repeat again. If there was a problem with the clan I should have switched Infrastructure with charm partners before I removed Reforge your core because if we die in the forest nothing matters.

[X] Plan don't die in the forest
-[X] Grand Tour
-[X] Train Business Sense
-[X] Train Bureaucracy
-[X] Build Infrastructure
-[X] Reforge your Core x10

[X] Orders don't cast a veto

[X] Give her something else (Diplomacy)
[X] Let it go for now
[X] Honor Guard
 
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It was originally Reforging + Build Infrastructure + Caravan escort with the hope that the combined choices would help make the forest trip safer when we had to go in. It was only after you talked about not dropping charity and keeping the dead beat employees that I looked at the costs and realized that with -20 gold a turn without spending any cash on improvements Reforging would have us bankrupt before we even got to the forest. If you can convince me that we can still afford the crash rebuilds then I'll consider switching back to Reforging.
If with the forest you mean the Beast Lands, then I believe you're not counting right. We're gonna go there sometime this year and we have 11 quarters (almost 4 years) to go before we run out of reserves because of our negative income. More importantly, even if you pick Reforging and make our income -20, it's only for this turn. We'll vote for Actions again in the next quarter, and we might not want to Reforge again. And even if we go with Reforging every single Turn (unlikely) and we never pick another Action that nets us money/income (never gonna happen), and our Purpose or other Orders never get us money/income either (very unlikely), we'd still have just shy of 3 years before we're dry, by my counts.

The only way paranoia comes into this is from the fact that we don't have her loyalty yet we've only gotten the chance to win it and showing vulnerability in such a way is easy to backfire when we haven't created more then a basic relationship of might not as bad as the rest of the family.
That's why I countered it by saying that many signs point in the direction of her being in support of us, instead, and the QM basically spelled it out for us, in my opinion:
-The scene with her after the duel was quite friendly.
-In the vote to decide where to put her, the QM told us that whether we picked to keep her close or to send her back to the sect with our blessings, we would have high enough Persuasion to make it so she would see that as what she wants. And a specific quote of his was "If you genuinely reach out to her as her sister and express a desire to know her better she'll want to stay.", and that was what we picked.
-In this last update, the QM wrote "Oku is also a risk-taker with little respect for honor and propriety and if she's loyal to anyone it's to you personally."
Also, what do you think she will do? Kill us in cold blood while we are Reforging and while she's our Honor Guard? That's never going to pan out for her! It's not even a recognized duel to get the position of Matriarch (and if she challenged us, we could just say no).
(Fake Edit - I see your final vote makes this a moot point, but I'll leave it in just in case. Also, sorry, but the Decisions vote should not be in plan form, only Actions and Orders'.)

If your goal is improving our income then I would have chosen charm partners which can explicitly do both income improvements and a stability increase and is listed on our character sheet as a strength. I wouldn't have both oversight and then proceed to block Cut superfluous employees because the two options have synergy. Oversight is looking into corruption and cut superfluous employees is removing employees that don't do there jobs and by using a veto to block the order well also using our personal time to investigate it feels like your going to cause a huge relationship hit and assorted stability loss when it isn't at all necessary or even wanted.
I want to improve our income by making sure our Stability improves, which Oversight accomplishes, so that our Purpose can be achieved earlier/better.
[] Oversight
Personally check up on your employees and solve internal problems. Should increase stability and you might head off crises before they start.
The way I see it, we stop the cuts, reassigning those employees to tasks that are actually useful, and we oversee that operation, gaining Stability and heading off crises, in the process. I think they synergize very well. But like I said, I wouldn't mind changing this Action to something else, and would be open to Reforging. Which brings me to:

[X] Orders Plan "Sensible and Humane Management"
-[X] Veto "Cut charity spending"
-[X] Order to "Reorganize charity spending to be more efficient and sustainable"
-[X] Veto "Cut superfluous employees"
-[X] Order to "Reassign the superfluous employees to other useful tasks"
-[X] Order to "Launch an investigation about the previous activities of these employees"

Decisions:
[X] Let it go for now
[X] Honor Guard
[X] Give her something else: Head of PR

[X] Plan don't die in the forest
-[X] Grand Tour
-[X] Train Business Sense
-[X] Train Bureaucracy
-[X] Build Infrastructure
-[X] Reforge your Core x10

Let's cultivate, baby! I changed Oku's Decision to Honor Guard so she can protect us while we're weak and later on during Beast Lands trips. And I edited the name of my old Orders Plan to something else so as to avoid confusion now that I added some new things to it.
 
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For the idea of reassigning the "superfluous employees" potentially we could also cut their pay? Or I guess cut the pay of low-preformers more generally. I personally think that it is better to cut pay than to cut people unless they are actively sabotaging things or something.
 
I would say that they'll get paid based on whatever new task/position they get, not the ones they previously had, which seems fair.
 
Edit @Epic Bygones

Changed vote

If with the forest you mean the Beast Lands, then I believe you're not counting right. We're gonna go there sometime this year and we have 11 quarters (almost 4 years) to go before we run out of reserves because of our negative income. More importantly, even if you pick Reforging and make our income -20, it's only for this turn. We'll vote for Actions again in the next quarter, and we might not want to Reforge again. And even if we go with Reforging every single Turn (unlikely) and we never pick another Action that nets us money/income (never gonna happen), and our Purpose or other Orders never get us money/income either (very unlikely), we'd still have just shy of 3 years before we're dry, by my counts.

I might have been wrong about how long it would take to go bankrupt but given there are 4 quarters in a year with each quarter consisting of three months, 11 quarters is slightly below three years rather then almost four. A rebuild a quarter would have brought us to a two year reserve. Which isn't outright bankrupt but it was closer then I had liked when our brother's plan said that we needed to survive for three years before we might be able to recover.

and that's without any of the high risk high cost expansion that our brother was using the clan funds for. I had thought that was risky given one of his orders was spend freely from the reserve.

I want to improve our income by making sure our Stability improves, which Oversight accomplishes, so that our Purpose can be achieved earlier/better.

I still feel that your orders are way to complicated for our low stability to carry out and that we will take a stability hit by trying but that's not the end of the world and given that if I convinced you it would only take a vote away from Reforge. It's in my best interest to take the win and run with it.
 
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Yeah, I derped with the quarters. My brain was like, "Quarters? That means 4, so 4 months! Duh-doy!"
Oh, you should change your Decisions (Oku/Mom/Duels) into individual votes, @kitsune9 . That's the one category that shouldn't be integrated in a plan.
 
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[X] Orders Plan "Sensible and Humane Management"
-[X] Veto "Cut charity spending"
-[X] Order to "Reorganize charity spending to be more efficient and sustainable"
-[X] Veto "Cut superfluous employees"
-[X] Order to "Reassign the superfluous employees to other useful tasks"
-[X] Order to "Launch an investigation about the previous activities of these employees"

Decisions:
[X] Let it go for now
[X] Honor Guard
[X] Give her something else: Head of PR

[X] Plan don't die in the forest
-[X] Grand Tour
-[X] Train Business Sense
-[X] Train Bureaucracy
-[X] Build Infrastructure
-[X] Reforge your Core x10
 
I tried to tally the votes but the automatic method was a bit of a mess, as we as players were all over the place and made some mistakes. I think the voting format might have been a bit too complicated, @Mr. Prokosch , or maybe it could have used an example in your post. Something to keep in mind for the next Quarter vote, perhaps. Also, could you tell us when the deadline is?

Either way, doing it manually, I got this:
4 votes
Plan: Stability & Story Time
-Build Infrastructure
-Oversight
J.I.M.S, veekie, TimEd, Uhtread
3 votes
Plan don't die in the forest
-Grand Tour
-Train Business Sense
-Train Bureaucracy
-Build Infrastructure
-Reforge your Core x10
kitsune9, Epic Bygones, The Froggy Ninja
2 votes
Actions Plan "Priority to Our Priority"
-Grand Tour
-Train Business Sense
-Train Bureaucracy
-Oversight
-Build Infrastructure
Neptune, VexMasterTyrant
1 vote
Plan Strengthen the Foundation
-Acclimate to Diamond Spirit
-Copy with the Forge
Juli Freixi
1 vote
Build Infrastructure
DangerKitty
Duels:
9 votes
Let it go for now
Juli Freixi, J.I.M.S, DangerKitty, Uhtread, Neptune, VexMasterTyrant, kitsune9, Epic Bygones, The Froggy Ninja

Oku:
3 vote
Training clan guards
Juli Freixi, Neptune, VexMasterTyrant
3 votes
Escorting highest risk caravans
J.I.M.S, DangerKitty, Uhtread
3 votes
Honor Guard
kitsune9, Epic Bygones, The Froggy Ninja

Mom:
7 votes
Give her something else: Head of PR
J.I.M.S, DangerKitty, Uhtread, Neptune, VexMasterTyrant, Epic Bygones, The Froggy Ninja
1 vote
Give her something else (Matriarch's Personal Adviser)
Juli Freixi
1 vote
Give her something else (Diplomacy)
kitsune9
3 votes
Orders Plan "Sensible and Humane Management"
-Veto "Cut charity spending"
-Order to "Reorganize charity spending to be more efficient and sustainable"
-Veto "Cut superfluous employees"
-Order to "Reassign the superfluous employees to other useful tasks"
-Order to "Launch an investigation about the previous activities of these employees"
Epic Bygones, VexMasterTyrant, The Froggy Ninja
1 vote
Orders Plan "Sensible and Humane Management" (the outdated version)
-Veto "Cut charity spending"
-Veto "Cut superfluous employees"
-Order to "Reassign the superfluous employees to other useful tasks"
Neptune
1 vote
Orders don't cast a veto
kitsune9
Let me know if I got anything wrong.
 
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[X] Orders Plan "Sensible and Humane Management"
-[X] Veto "Cut charity spending"
-[X] Order to "Reorganize charity spending to be more efficient and sustainable"
-[X] Veto "Cut superfluous employees"
-[X] Order to "Reassign the superfluous employees to other useful tasks"
-[X] Order to "Launch an investigation about the previous activities of these employees"

Decisions:
[X] Let it go for now
[X] Training clan guards
[X] Give her something else: Head of PR

[X] Actions Plan "Priority to Our Priority"
-[X] Grand Tour
-[X] Train Business Sense
-[X] Train Bureaucracy
-[X] Oversight
-[X] Build Infrastructure
 
[X] Orders Plan "Sensible and Humane Management"
-[X] Veto "Cut charity spending"
-[X] Order to "Reorganize charity spending to be more efficient and sustainable"
-[X] Veto "Cut superfluous employees"
-[X] Order to "Reassign the superfluous employees to other useful tasks"
-[X] Order to "Launch an investigation about the previous activities of these employees"

Decisions:
[X] Let it go for now
[X] Honor Guard
[X] Give her something else: Head of PR

[X] Plan don't die in the forest
-[X] Grand Tour
-[X] Train Business Sense
-[X] Train Bureaucracy
-[X] Build Infrastructure
-[X] Reforge your Core x10
 
@Epic Bygones you've convinced me...

[X] Orders Plan "Sensible and Humane Management"
-[X] Veto "Cut charity spending"
-[X] Order to "Reorganize charity spending to be more efficient and sustainable"
-[X] Veto "Cut superfluous employees"
-[X] Order to "Reassign the superfluous employees to other useful tasks"
-[X] Order to "Launch an investigation about the previous activities of these employees"

Decisions:
[X] Let it go for now
[X] Honor Guard
[X] Give her something else: Head of PR

[X] Plan don't die in the forest
-[X] Grand Tour
-[X] Train Business Sense
-[X] Train Bureaucracy
-[X] Build Infrastructure
-[X] Reforge your Core x10
 
If it was me, and taking into account mother's abilities... I'd probably build brothels and leave it for her to manage. No offense, though. Information is key to any business, and what better way to get it than through alcohol and sex. Well, she is suspicious, so that is that. Who knows if she will relay true information to us '-'.

By the way, I am nothing voting in this one '3'
 
Hello there~

I wanted to send this a few days ago, but had a problem with my account~ I wouldn't consider it a full omake, and more of a Oku-best-girl thing, and how I see her... or not, damn, I don't even know what I am saying '-'. Well, that aside, I am totally in favor of Oku x Chachi relationship, cause who cares about taboo in stories anyway? '3'

[] Honor Guard

Said I was not gonna vote this time, guess I was lying~

 


I don't think that will be the canon pairing chosen but if you write enough you might be able to change that. I would have preferred a new scene over a repeat but there wasn't anything wrong with it.

For feedback first of all that was really fast writing wise, so that was impressive. For details I would have probably included a trigger of some kind for the punch and if you are focused on an Oku x Chachi relationship maybe focus some on her blocking and holding you off before the rest of the family stepped in. I

n the actual fight for control in the ring she showed less surprise and also gave up a lot faster then I had expected when in the story she fought to the end.

If you want to continue Idea's for other scenes could be sparing to raise combat skill for the trip or talking to her about things going on in the quest. My personal favorite is telling her that if she wanted to challenge us for the clan she had to help us with all this paperwork.​
 
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I don't have the time right now, sorry, but just to put it out there, the plans Stability & Story Time and Priority to Our Priority are actually the same (Oversight + Build Infrastructure) but with different names. I just realized that, which is pretty silly given that the latter was originally mine and came after the former.
Not sure if you want to count them as one or not.
 
According to the tally don't die in the forest loses by two votes if you add up the varients that voted for the same two actions. The other's were blowouts with Plan Sensible and Humane management not having any real challenger and Let it go, give her something else "head of PR", and Honor Guard, pulling ahead for the win.

Adhoc vote count started by kitsune9 on Nov 10, 2020 at 5:30 PM, finished with 50 posts and 13 votes.
 
Looks like the winners are.
[X] Let it go for now
[X] Honor guard
[X] Give her something else: Head of PR

[X] Orders Plan "Sensible and Humane Management"
-[X] Veto "Cut charity spending"
-[X] Order to "Reorganize charity spending to be more efficient and sustainable"
-[X] Veto "Cut superfluous employees"
-[X] Order to "Reassign the superfluous employees to other useful tasks"
-[X] Order to "Launch an investigation about the previous activities of these employees"

[X] Plan don't die in the forest
-[X] Grand Tour
-[X] Train Business Sense
-[X] Train Bureaucracy
-[X] Build Infrastructure
-[X] Reforge your Core x10

Adhoc vote count started by The Froggy Ninja on Nov 10, 2020 at 5:36 PM, finished with 51 posts and 13 votes.
 
To make things clearer between multipart votes, the different parts probably should be prefixed.

[] Actions Plan "Priority to Our Priority" == [] Plan: Stability & Story Time
 
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