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Mind trees! Please research the ship or contact the ship with your [Action]! Right now there's a ton of research going into new trees, which are neat, but we don't have a ton of growing potential yet, so we're not going to be growing them for a while. Contacting the ship will give us options to deal with it and maybe stop them from damaging our shield!
Adhoc vote count started by picklepikkl on Oct 3, 2020 at 9:32 PM, finished with 65 posts and 41 votes.
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[X][Predators] Allow them to remain
[X][Action] Research the Empty Veil power (Void)
[X][Focus] Try to reach out to the first Ship.
[X][Focus] Research the incoming Ship. It's just sitting there, waiting. Menacingly. (???)
[X][Focus] Research the Soothing Tree (Psionic)
 
[X][Predators] Allow them to remain
[X][Action] Research the Hoop Tree (Magnetic)
[x][Focus] Attempt to store resources against future need.
[x][Focus] Attempt to store resources against future need.x2
[X][Focus] Try to reach out to the first Ship.
 
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[X][Predators] Allow them to remain
[X][Action] Those Ships are scary. Erect the Shield!
[X][Focus] Grow Collector Tree
[X][Focus] Grow Collector Tree x2
[X][Focus] Grow Collector Tree x3

I really dislike that the ship is going to be studying us to better their fleet. Especially since they got an axe to grind with some other species.

As for the predators... they stay cause a forest gots to have predators to be healthy! Plus research!
 
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[X][Predators] Allow them to remain
[X][Action] Research Elder Trees
[X][Focus] Grow Collector Tree
[X][Focus] Grow Collector Tree x2
[X][Focus] Grow Collector Tree x3
 
[X][Predators] Allow them to remain

[X][Action] Attempt to store resources against future need.

[X][Focus] Grow Collector Tree

[X][Focus] Grow Collector Tree x2

[X][Focus] Grow Collector Tree x3

Those are a lot of actions on Shielding.

Good luck organizing yourselves other trees!

Space Jawa said:
Anyone else concerned that if we focus on forest growth and growing collector trees too much we'll lose sight of the bigger picture and won't survive long enough to make use of the bonus resources?
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We lucked into the Turtle Tree aka Maggy aka Magnetism Tree.

Upgrade our Collectors until we have 10 of them, then spend all Focus and Growth actions on Maggy. That should scale us into something close to 10 Maggies, which should allow Heart Trees to easily cover Protection as needed.
 
[X][Predators] Allow them to remain
[X][Action] Those Ships are scary. Erect the Shield!
[X][Focus] Grow Collector Tree
[X][Focus] Grow Collector Tree x2
[X][Focus] Grow Collector Tree x3
 
[X][Predators] Allow them to remain
[X][Action] Those Ships are scary. Erect the Shield!
[X][Focus] Grow Collector Tree
[X][Focus] Grow Collector Tree x2
[X][Focus] Try to reach out to the first Ship.
[X][Tree] Heart Tree

Somewhat worried that we're only going to encourage them to bring bigger guns the more we succeed.
 
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[X][Predators] Allow them to remain
[X][Action] Those Ships are scary. Erect the Shield!
[X][Focus] Try to reach out to the first Ship.
[X][Focus] Research the Reflecting Tree (Crystal)
[X][Focus] Research the Shaping Tree (Crystal)
 
Deuterium Dawn said:
Somewhat worried that we're only going to encourage them to bring bigger guns the more we succeed.
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All the more reason to contact the first ship, they are the most likely to try and deal with us rather than raid and destroy us if they know we can speak to them.
And if we research their ship we can also have the mean's to suddenly have mobility be a thing!
 
...Honestly, tomorrow if the Minds don't start investing into contacting the ship, I'm going to switch my [Action] from the shield to that, inefficient though it is since I'm a Heart.

It's a dangled "this option opens up plot" hook! Right now we don't know anything about the broader context, and that action is our easiest way to change it. Researching new trees our Roots don't have the resources to build in great numbers yet is a much less good use of our Mind Trees than getting that contact action done, or the research action that will let us figure out how to spread beyond here. But we've only got four trees using their [Action] on contacting the ship and two using it on researching it; we need six more successes on contact and four more successes on researching the ship, so even assuming all those trees are Mind Trees, the odds are very against it at the moment.
 
RebelYell said:
All the more reason to contact the first ship, they are the most likely to try and deal with us rather than raid and destroy us if they know we can speak to them.
And if we research their ship we can also have the mean's to suddenly have mobility be a thing!
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Fair enough, I'll burn a focus vote on it. In the meantime, I'll just be over here turtling Hearting for all I'm worth.
 
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[X][Predators] Allow them to remain
[X][Action] Grow Collector Tree
[X][Focus] Grow Collector Tree
[X][Focus] Grow Collector Tree x2
[X][Focus] Grow Collector Tree x3
One down, many more to come.
 
picklepikkl said:
...Honestly, tomorrow if the Minds don't start investing into contacting the ship, I'm going to switch my [Action] from the shield to that, inefficient though it is since I'm a Heart.

It's a dangled "this option opens up plot" hook! Right now we don't know anything about the broader context, and that action is our easiest way to change it. Researching new trees our Roots don't have the resources to build in great numbers yet is a much less good use of our Mind Trees than getting that contact action done, or the research action that will let us figure out how to spread beyond here. But we've only got four trees using their [Action] on contacting the ship and two using it on researching it; we need six more successes on contact and four more successes on researching the ship, so even assuming all those trees are Mind Trees, the odds are very against it at the moment.
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There are 47 minds, and we had a high turnout in the first vote so we had people sticking around. As it is right now I am helping on finishing up the soothe tree but if we have enough minds there and not enough on contacting the ship I would be willing to switch. However with all of our root trees we can still pump out 1 or 2 specials in addition to working on worm and collector trees. Those specials sometimes open up new actions for us or provide other benefits.

Soothing tree though has the benefit of being an offensive calm that flows into communication if not taken. Reflecting is a damage reduction and also useful for protecting ourselves which would put those two at top priority for mind trees this turn.
 
[X][Predators] Allow them to remain
[X][Action] Research the Soothing Tree (Psionic)
[X][Focus] Try to reach out to the first Ship.
[X][Focus] Research the Reflecting Tree (Crystal)
[X][Focus] Research the Shaping Tree (Crystal)
 
with all 3 focus actions on collector trees, we are garunteed to get 2 new ones, but if we could get up to about 9 root trees using their actions on it as well, that would make us very likely to get 3 new collector trees next turn.
 
Void Stalker said:
There are 47 minds, and we had a high turnout in the first vote so we had people sticking around. As it is right now I am helping on finishing up the soothe tree but if we have enough minds there and not enough on contacting the ship I would be willing to switch. However with all of our root trees we can still pump out 1 or 2 specials in addition to working on worm and collector trees. Those specials sometimes open up new actions for us or provide other benefits.

Soothing tree though has the benefit of being an offensive calm that flows into communication if not taken. Reflecting is a damage reduction and also useful for protecting ourselves which would put those two at top priority for mind trees this turn.
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The issue is that we need to research the special tree, and then we need to grow the special tree in enough numbers to matter -- at least a 2 turn delay, whereas contacting is an action that opens up a new vote (or a mini-turn) immediately. I really don't think we want to lollygag on finding out what that option locks, especially when the Heart Trees have really nothing to do but take defensive actions: either shielding us (preventing people from poking at us in the first place) or storing resources (banking successes against future damage). We don't really need new defense at this time, not with our luck in rolling four Magnetic Trees.

Currently we've got seven trees researching the Soothing Tree, and we've already got four successes into it. Assuming all those trees are Mind, we're very likely to successfully research it this turn. But we're behind on both the ship contact and the ship research, and that really concerns me.
 
picklepikkl said:
The issue is that we need to research the special tree, and then we need to grow the special tree in enough numbers to matter -- at least a 2 turn delay, whereas contacting is an action that opens up a new vote (or a mini-turn) immediately. I really don't think we want to lollygag on finding out what that option locks, especially when the Heart Trees have really nothing to do but take defensive actions: either shielding us (preventing people from poking at us in the first place) or storing resources (banking successes against future damage). We don't really need new defense at this time, not with our luck in rolling four Magnetic Trees.

Currently we've got seven trees researching the Soothing Tree, and we've already got four successes into it. Assuming all those trees are Mind, we're very likely to successfully research it this turn. But we're behind on both the ship contact and the ship research, and that really concerns me.
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The problem is we just had hostile jump in system so delaying on getting new defense/offense options means we are stuck in a purely reactionary mode with only shielding. Soothing tree at least means we only have to endure next turn before we can go on the offense and drive the new hostiles off. It also means we can protect peaceful contacts so that we can learn from them but until we get offensive capability learning from the research ship and similar contacts is limited to relying on no hostiles showing up.
 
[X][Action] Those Ships are scary. Erect the Shield!
[X][Predators] Allow them to remain
[X][Focus] Grow the Forest.
[X][Focus] Grow the Forest. x2
[X][Focus] Grow the Forest. x3
 
[X][Action] Those Ships are scary. Erect the Shield!
[X][Predators] Allow them to remain
[X][Focus] Grow the Forest.
[X][Focus] Grow the Forest. x2
[X][Focus] Grow the Forest. x3
 
[X][Predators] Allow them to remain
[X][Action] Research the Soothing Tree (Psionic)
[X][Focus] Try to reach out to the first Ship.
[X][Focus] Research the Reflecting Tree (Crystal)
[X][Focus] Research the Shaping Tree (Crystal)
 
Mind Tree Calculations:
Try to reach out to the first Ship and Soothing Tree 4/10
6 Mind trees give a 61.2% to finish
7 Mind trees give a 78.8% to finish
Recommend for 7 on each

Research Incoming Ship, 6/10
4 Mind trees give a 63.7% to finish
5 Mind trees give a 82.8% to finish
Recommend 5

That means to finish all 4 projects will take 19 mind trees. 47 people are registered as mind trees so we need less than half of them to vote for one of the 3 projects above.
 
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