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- Your Native Universe
[X] Stay. He can't fight two Blackened by himself. At least he needs Assassin to support him. You can endure.
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Fate/Blackened Sugar
- Thread starter AnonymousRabbit
- Start date
- Fantasy Modern
- Location
- West Michigan
[X] Search. That stupid girl that nearly killed you ran off. You need to look for her. Get Assassin to do it. She can just drop you somewhere. You can wait.
ChildishChimera
A umbran summon
- Location
- New York
[X] Search. That stupid girl that nearly killed you ran off. You need to look for her. Get Assassin to do it. She can just drop you somewhere. You can wait.
We need to move out the battlefield so Beo won't have to cover for us.
We need to move out the battlefield so Beo won't have to cover for us.
- Location
- Somewhere North of south
A panicking child does that
Thus proving she can't be trusted with command over Berserker. The only reason I see against stripping her of command seals and contracting with Berserker ourselves is I'm not sure whether Berserker would allow such a thing, though considering just how much the "panicking child" wants out he might even agree.
Edit: Also, how old is she? At least a teenager, 16-18, right? We're beginning to leave "child" territory at that point.
- Location
- Somewhere North of south
It's probably better to stick her into a safe house until the war blows over in exchange for letting us use berserker
Rowknan
Roar
- Location
- The Unknown
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Hans is also morally gray enough to knock her out and do it.
That being said, we probably owe her an apology for being complicit in her possession.
In what way did we have anything to do with her getting possessed? If anything, her comments indicate that she herself made a deal with manaka
"I... I don't.... What is this..? I never wanted this. It wasn't supposed to be me!"
this 'it wasn't supposed to be me!' comment could be taken as her allowing manaka in. Though it could just be the grail war in general. The only thing we did was ally with manaka after the possession had already taken place.
"I... I don't.... What is this..? I never wanted this. It wasn't supposed to be me!"
this 'it wasn't supposed to be me!' comment could be taken as her allowing manaka in. Though it could just be the grail war in general. The only thing we did was ally with manaka after the possession had already taken place.
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- Location
- Somewhere North of south
I feel like that's not such a good idea as she might wake up and say "Somebody save me!" and pull berserker from us at an inopportune moment, far better to tell her "stay here and don't leave, this building will keep you safe I'll bring you food. You want out of this war hide here."
"Sorry I didn't try and drag you into this war sooner."
Rowknan
Roar
- Location
- The Unknown
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I mean, we could magically put her to sleep and make sure our employees feed her. And if the god damn Manaka comes back, that won't stop her anymore than dying did Shiki.
I mean, I feel like Hans values people enough to want to show he is sorry in some way. It doesn't have to be verbally.
We could probably also just do a skin graft. Yah know, slice the skin off the top of the hand. It's a lot less messy and permanent, and it's not like the civvie could stop us if we used hypnosis.
- Location
- Somewhere North of south
When she wakes up to eat she might still panic and summon Berserker with a command seal.
I am genuinely curious about why you think we are at all complicit in the possession that happened. Am I forgetting a part of the story, and if so, can you quote it? Are you trying to say that we should have been trying to bring Ayumi back sooner and not just accepted Manaka? Because, like, that is completely not our fault.
Spectral Waltz
Scatterbrained Writer
- Location
- Walking the Endless Corridors
We literally approached her and she got possessed, completely independent of our actions. Anyone saying that we had some hand in her possession is completely deluded.
- Location
- Your Native Universe
Hey how about we not try to be too hard on the panicking child who not only woke up in the middle of a battle and is missing a few days worth of events, but has also noticed that her entire physical appearance has changed.
Rowknan
Roar
- Location
- The Unknown
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I mean, who said she needed to be awake to receive sustenance. They could very easily feed her through an IV and such for the duration of the war.
Alright. Think of it like this. She is a scared kid who woke up looking different, in a war where she had participoated without her knowledge, and with a strange guy who had become friends with the thing demonically possessing her.
And we are complicit in the sense that we worked with Manaka and didn't look into helping the girl. That's not bad from our perspective, but an apology would likely be appreciated from hers.
I don't think she knows about that.
Said panicking child also nearly killed us. Regardless of what "being too hard" actually means, it's just stupid to put them in a position where it can happen again. If a child gets their hand on a weapon and panicking, uses it on you, it is absolutely not being too hard to take the weapon away.
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- Your Native Universe
How about we try something else that's less likely to make people hostile, like I don't know, deescalate the situation in a way that doesn't involve making the child's mental state worse?
Also keep in mind that Beowulf actually gave a crap about his original Master, so making an enemy of her will make an enemy of him.
Who are these "people" you speak of? Because I can't think of another character who honestly cares except possibly Beowulf. Honestly it'd be hard to escalate the situation from what it already is, that is, her attempting to murder us.
I don't get why you keep downplaying that like it's a child tripping and scraping her knee. If a child you knew literally tried to kill you, would you just stand there making excuses because they were scared at the time?
No one is suggesting we murder her. I'm saying that she clearly can't be trusted and thus we should transfer her command seals and contract with Beowulf to us. And it shouldn't be hard to convince her to go along with that (thus satisfying Beowulf) because she clearly doesn't want to fight.
If his master gave the okay, I believe he would also. Also that is not how contracts work, or Kotomine in F/SN wouldn't have been able to steal Lancer's contract from Bazette like he did. And stealing command seals is also totally a thing that's possible, it's just usually done by cutting their arm off, but I believe if she was willing we could skip that part. Even if we needed the church's help, with us and Ayumi agreeing I wouldn't see why they wouldn't oblige us.
Muramasa
Best Girl
Kotomine was the priest overseeing the fifth war and had the knowledge to take someone's command spell. It wouldn't be unheard of if he knew how to mess with contracts too. Also what example do you have of command spell transference that didn't involve either the church or an enemy servant pulling things?
Kayneth's fiance took his command seals and thus contract from him by force in Fate/Zero. Well I think he agreed in the end, but she tortured him until he agreed. Obviously we should skip the torture part.