- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Replacing the AESA radar with a new and improved model.
Hangar Queens: A Modern Military Mecha Satire
- Thread starter Tayta Malikai
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- PA
I don't claim to know radar but the notion I'm getting is sort of a 'gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes back.' logic-you can look but you will be seen looking.
Tayta Malikai
200% Space Whale
- Location
- Australia
Basically this. They'd be less able to directly target you but they'd know it was you doing it and so focus on you above others. Or something. I am assured that this is how it works. I am assured of this.
But I think I'll just go with the QM wand option, much easier and it means I don't have to rewrite anything.
Anyway I really need to stop posting, it's 2 AM already and I need to get up for work tomorrow. >_<
Snowfire
Polyglot of Chimera
- Location
- Wordcats
Calling it now. If we do this, we'll get in trouble for not using enough fuel.
- Location
- Florida
[X] Replacing the AESA radar with a new and improved model.
Solarstream
It's all in the cards
- Location
- Zombie World
- Pronouns
- He/Him
More interactions with Antonia Clarke please! That was gold.
[X] Replacing the AESA radar with a new and improved model.
[X] Replacing the AESA radar with a new and improved model.
Jonen C
F.M.D.G.
- Location
- Lincopense, Ostrogothia, Suecia
Fuel is flammable and having more flammable stuff on you while being shot at is ungoodly bellyfeels territory.
It also mentioned load balancing. Expect the mecha to be harder to maneuver with fuel sloshing about in unaccounted for ways while moving about.
Jonen C
F.M.D.G.
- Location
- Lincopense, Ostrogothia, Suecia
@Tayta Malikai
The reworked new model AESA should just be "strap on a new-ish mark LITENING pod", tying up a equipment hardpoint and increasing our EM signature but giving enhanced ELINT/EW and sensor capability.
en.m.wikipedia.org
(Technically the F-35 has the equivalent of one built in, but the advantage of a pod is you can swap it out for a better one. Which is not to say the one we acquire is actually an upgrade, but more sensors equals better, right? right!)
The reworked new model AESA should just be "strap on a new-ish mark LITENING pod", tying up a equipment hardpoint and increasing our EM signature but giving enhanced ELINT/EW and sensor capability.
AN/AAQ-28 Litening - Wikipedia
(Technically the F-35 has the equivalent of one built in, but the advantage of a pod is you can swap it out for a better one. Which is not to say the one we acquire is actually an upgrade, but more sensors equals better, right? right!)
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[X] Replacing the AESA radar with a new and improved model.
Like, geez you got ONE job, and thats to provide usable data out of the bits where you said they're coming out and since its all proprietary you can't do fuck all to fix it once you identify the problem unless you want to hack a job to make it work right now except once they fix the bug and all the outputs are coming out of the right holes your fix is now the new Problem.
My money's on shitty drivers.
Like, geez you got ONE job, and thats to provide usable data out of the bits where you said they're coming out and since its all proprietary you can't do fuck all to fix it once you identify the problem unless you want to hack a job to make it work right now except once they fix the bug and all the outputs are coming out of the right holes your fix is now the new Problem.
So like you got a hugeass spotlight, you sweep it around and see what you can light up and anyone looking at you at the time you're looking at them goes "OH GOD MY EYES MY EYES AAAAAAA"
- Location
- va
[X] Replacing the AESA radar with a new and improved model.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Is her mech white coloured by chance.
Yes, debugging. That's one of the Ds in D&D stands for.
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo?
I see how it is.
Buster is gonna turncoat as soon as anyone from another side offers him a truckload of cookies.
Avalanche
Atypical Netizen
- Location
- Australia
This quest is Top Gun but insane, pretty well done. (I haven't ever watched Top Gun)
[X] Installing the newest generation of active protection system.
Radar? Pfft doing your own recon? This is AMERICA son! Leave that for the MQ-9s and double chair force drone operators.
Besides, fixing our own TA systems to then fuck them up right after again sounds very IC.
[X] Installing the newest generation of active protection system.
Radar? Pfft doing your own recon? This is AMERICA son! Leave that for the MQ-9s and double chair force drone operators.
Besides, fixing our own TA systems to then fuck them up right after again sounds very IC.
- Location
- Fort Worth, TX
[X] Replacing the AESA radar with a new and improved model.
Jonen C
F.M.D.G.
- Location
- Lincopense, Ostrogothia, Suecia
Whiskey Golf
Being of Editing & Technical Assistance
- Location
- Chained to my desk
To elaborate a little on @Jonen C 's post: ECM pods work by throwing up a lot of radio interference to obscure your position and make it harder for an enemy missile to lock onto you, and make it more likely that a locked missile loses its lock. However, the signal pattern emitted is distinct, so if you turn it on people can "hear" the "noise" and realise "oh shit the Americans are coming." There are also missiles designed to go after that actively emitting signal pattern, hence the term "home on jam".
The future, which is AESA ECM, is to use radio waves to tai chi away the radar beams of search radars while being more subtle about it, but that's just cheating and hax the way AESA radars are cheating and hax. Notably, that's how the ECM on the F-35 and Rafale are suppsoed to work
Jonen C
F.M.D.G.
- Location
- Lincopense, Ostrogothia, Suecia
Basically, radar is a flashlight, lights up the dark to let you see but the enemy can see you from where you can't see them and they can shoot at the light.
ECM is like a strobelight that blinds anyone looking at it, but it doesn't prevent them from firing at the source of the light.
State of the art radar the sensor is basically like a starlight nvg that can see stuff based on the light available from other sources.
And state of the art ECM blinds you with light just outside the visual spectrum... Inexact analogy, since you wouldn't even know you're being jammed with the ecm, but in either case you can't tell where the jammer is.
ECM is like a strobelight that blinds anyone looking at it, but it doesn't prevent them from firing at the source of the light.
State of the art radar the sensor is basically like a starlight nvg that can see stuff based on the light available from other sources.
And state of the art ECM blinds you with light just outside the visual spectrum... Inexact analogy, since you wouldn't even know you're being jammed with the ecm, but in either case you can't tell where the jammer is.
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Tayta Malikai
200% Space Whale
- Location
- Australia
I'm glad to see people are enjoying the characters. I wasn't so sure how someone like Antonia Clarke would be received.
I also see we have another voting landslide for Replacing the (non-)AESA radar. I doubt there'll be another miraculous near-reversal like before, but since I obviously (?) can't work on the update while I'm asleep, I'll leave it open for another 9 hours.
Out of curiosity, can I ask what led you guys to so heavily favour this option in particular? Is it the increase in protagonist power? The two green plus signs compared to all the others' one? The indirect penalty compared to the others' more direct ones? The assumption that being at the rear will mitigate the penalty by forcing the enemy to go through the rest of your squadron? Something else?
Besides, if Antonia's mecha was white, she'd soon figure out a way to get it really dirty.
Let's see... off the top of my head, I remember Tom Cruise buzzing some general's daughter, giving the finger to Chinese MiG pilots, something about a risky carrier landing at night, "you do not salute her", Tom Cruise's wingman getting killed in an accident, Tom Cruise getting it on with his instructor, and finally Tom Cruise going out into 4realz air-to-air combat with the Chinese. That about sum it up?
Also, can't wait to see the sequel. Guy is a miracle movie-making machine.
Also, some bad news everyone. I'm gonna be going on a trip for three weeks, so writing time will likely be limited and uncertain during that time. Ideally I'd like to get the next three episodes finished during that time, but we'll see.
I also see we have another voting landslide for Replacing the (non-)AESA radar. I doubt there'll be another miraculous near-reversal like before, but since I obviously (?) can't work on the update while I'm asleep, I'll leave it open for another 9 hours.
Out of curiosity, can I ask what led you guys to so heavily favour this option in particular? Is it the increase in protagonist power? The two green plus signs compared to all the others' one? The indirect penalty compared to the others' more direct ones? The assumption that being at the rear will mitigate the penalty by forcing the enemy to go through the rest of your squadron? Something else?
Sadly for the meme-lovers among us, it's painted in camouflage like everyone else's.Is her mech white coloured by chance.
Besides, if Antonia's mecha was white, she'd soon figure out a way to get it really dirty.
What does the other stand for?
New York bison New York bison New York bison New York bison New York?
It's just like Dystopia Quest all over again
I feel like that's high praise, coming from you. Thanks.
I technically have watched Top Gun, but it was nearly a decade ago and I forgot all the details.
Let's see... off the top of my head, I remember Tom Cruise buzzing some general's daughter, giving the finger to Chinese MiG pilots, something about a risky carrier landing at night, "you do not salute her", Tom Cruise's wingman getting killed in an accident, Tom Cruise getting it on with his instructor, and finally Tom Cruise going out into 4realz air-to-air combat with the Chinese. That about sum it up?
Also, can't wait to see the sequel. Guy is a miracle movie-making machine.
To elaborate a little on @Jonen C 's post: ECM pods work by throwing up a lot of radio interference to obscure your position and make it harder for an enemy missile to lock onto you, and make it more likely that a locked missile loses its lock. However, the signal pattern emitted is distinct, so if you turn it on people can "hear" the "noise" and realise "oh shit the Americans are coming." There are also missiles designed to go after that actively emitting signal pattern, hence the term "home on jam".
The future, which is AESA ECM, is to use radio waves to tai chi away the radar beams of search radars while being more subtle about it, but that's just cheating and hax the way AESA radars are cheating and hax. Notably, that's how the ECM on the F-35 and Rafale are suppsoed to work
I'll be honest, half the reason I'm writing this quest is to bait people with more military knowledge than me into posting technical commentary all over the thread.
Also, some bad news everyone. I'm gonna be going on a trip for three weeks, so writing time will likely be limited and uncertain during that time. Ideally I'd like to get the next three episodes finished during that time, but we'll see.
Snowfire
Polyglot of Chimera
- Location
- Wordcats