Buffy and Harmony working together is fun, but it is just about the worst way to split the party. Buffy on one side and then everyone else on the other is the best split by far, and leaving Andrew and Jonathon without anyone to fist fight for them is the worst.
You are forgetting Giles, and I really don't want to send buffy against the seductress on her own. Our girl doesn't have the best will saves.

You could send her alone against Greg or whomever, but he just lost all his stuff so he shouldn't be a threat to an experienced hunter like Giles
 
You are forgetting Giles, and I really don't want to send buffy against the seductress on her own. Our girl doesn't have the best will saves.

You could send her alone against Greg or whomever, but he just lost all his stuff so he shouldn't be a threat to an experienced hunter like Giles
He is a vampire assassin in a dark sewer, he absolutely is a threat to Giles. Keep in mind Giles would also have to look out for Jonathon and Andrew down there, and who knows if he has more alligators. Buffy can hit some random vampire with a hammer just fine if she tries to be seductive, but she doesn't need the help.
 
He is a vampire assassin in a dark sewer, he absolutely is a threat to Giles. Keep in mind Giles would also have to look out for Jonathon and Andrew down there, and who knows if he has more alligators. Buffy can hit some random vampire with a hammer just fine if she tries to be seductive, but she doesn't need the help.
A vampire assassin who uses a shadowrun to fight. We have no indication he's actually stealthy or good in a fight himself

Like "assasin" means he kills protected high value targets, but doesn't actually tell us how. You can be an assasin with the modus operandi of "walk up to the target and rip his head off on the street" if you're strong and tough enough
 
A vampire assassin who uses a shadowrun to fight. We have no indication he's actually stealthy or good in a fight himself

Like "assasin" means he kills protected high value targets, but doesn't actually tell us how. You can be an assasin with the modus operandi of "walk up to the target and rip his head off on the street" if you're strong and tough enough
We know he lives in that sewer, and had a monster and animals trained to take advantage of the terrain, but just as importantly we know he is a superhumanly strong monster, because he is a vampire. Leaving the three squishiest people to fight him in his preferred enviornment is crazy when we could also leave Harmony there. Buffy knows what the black widow vampire looks like and her M.O., she isn't going to be taken in by her. If you don't want Buffy to be seduced maybe send the entire team sans Buffy to kill the black widow vampire and leave Buffy to finish off sewer vamp?
 
[X] As the Leader of the Scoobies, it is your prerrogative, nay, your duty, to say this:
"Let's split up, gang".
-[X] You and Harmony can take this Raven girl alone, while the rest of the group handles the defanged vampire
 
[X] As the Leader of the Scoobies, it is your prerrogative, nay, your duty, to say this:
"Let's split up, gang".
-[X] You and Harmony can take this Raven girl alone, while the rest of the group handles the defanged vampire
 
[X] As the Leader of the Scoobies, it is your prerrogative, nay, your duty, to say this:
"Let's split up, gang".
-[X] You and Harmony can take this Raven girl alone, while the rest of the group handles the defanged vampire

Make no mistake, this is likely to be a disaster. I am still voting for it, because I want to see this disaster and it is very in-genre to do this.
 
Lock in 12 hours. I remind people that this is a very high stakes situation.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DeAnno on Oct 8, 2019 at 1:52 PM, finished with 24 posts and 13 votes.

  • [X] Gwarg could ruin their surprise if they don't get rid of him. It'll mess up their schedule, but they need to track him down and finish him off. It's still daytime, so hopefully he couldn't have gone too far.
    [X] As the Leader of the Scoobies, it is your prerrogative, nay, your duty, to say this:
    -[X] You and Harmony can take this Raven girl alone, while the rest of the group handles the defanged vampire
    [X] Buffy plans an all out assault on Wolfram and Hart's assassins in LA. If this war's escalation is inevitable, better to strike first, and Congressman Gold should at least be able to keep the LA authorities out of it.
    [X] With his Shadowurm dead Gwarg isn't much of a threat anyway, and a guy that lives in a sewer probably doesn't play very well with others. There are a lot of assassins to deal with, better to not get bogged down in a sewer.
 
[X] Gwarg could ruin their surprise if they don't get rid of him. It'll mess up their schedule, but they need to track him down and finish him off. It's still daytime, so hopefully he couldn't have gone too far.

Let's not get everyone in our party killed.
 
I have two questions:
  1. What Buffy's old (Pre-Slayer) friends in LA, think about the whole Mayor situation?
  2. What are the doctors of the Normal Again-verse thinking?

Buffy hasn't contacted any of these people so could only form guesses about what they would think, hampered in the latter case by those people neither existing at all nor even being known to her as fictional characters. It is Successor canon that the Normal Again universe does not exist; Glarghk Guhl Kashmas'nik merely produce extremely vivid hallucinations with their poison.
 
Buffy hasn't contacted any of these people so could only form guesses about what they would think, hampered in the latter case by those people neither existing at all nor even being known to her as fictional characters. It is Successor canon that the Normal Again universe does not exist; Glarghk Guhl Kashmas'nik merely produce extremely vivid hallucinations with their poison.

I was more kinda asking in an OOC way.
 
I was more kinda asking in an OOC way.

OOC the OC bloat in this quest already is pretty brutal, and any characters I invented to retroactively be Buffy's old classmates would kind of add to that total so I'm reluctant to do it without a good reason. They likely wouldn't have a substantially different pool of beliefs than most people in LA, though statistically it may be slanted towards the "Buffy runs some kind of criminal drug smuggling operation" angle due to how sketchy she was during her last days of school in Hemery.
 
S3.5E13: Might Makes Right II
[X] Gwarg could ruin their surprise if they don't get rid of him. It'll mess up their schedule, but they need to track him down and finish him off. It's still daytime, so hopefully he couldn't have gone too far.

"We can't let him get away," Buffy said. "Even if he's toothless now, and I don't buy that for a second, he might blow the whole operation." They'd realized that inevitably some assassins would slip through the cracks, but if they were discovered this early they'd hardly get any of them.

"You saw his lair on the way to help us, didn't you?" Giles asked. "Perhaps he's still lurking there."

"Yeah, I passed a little alcove thing running here, but I didn't notice anyone home and I thought he must have been here," Buffy said. The party abandoned the grisly scene and started following Buffy back the way she came.

"If he isn't just hiding though, he's probably getting further and further away," Jonathan said.

"I could summon up a monkey and have it search the nearby tunnels!" Andrew offered.

"I don't want us to get separated, wait until we get to the place and do it there," Buffy said. She wasn't sure one flying monkey was up to the task, but it was better than nothing. At least they could see in the dark.

Gwarg's lair was even less impressive than she'd thought it was from her quick glance a few minutes earlier. It was a sort of notch taken out of the wall of the sewer tunnel with about as much space as her bathroom at home, and a variety of of janky rags and broken down tools were scattered around a mat of old blankets that was probably a bed. Buffy unceremoniously rooted through it all with her hammer, but no Gwarg appeared from hiding.

"Harmony, I don't suppose you can smell anything useful?" Buffy asked. Meanwhile, Andrew finished summoning his monkey and it flew off down the tunnel.

"In this?" She gestured to the sewer all around them. "Oz wouldn't be able to smell anything in this."

"Point," Buffy said.

"There could be a secret passage. This kind of looks like a decoy lair? We ran into a different vampire using one of those last month." Jonathan was tapping around the walls and looking for pieces that would move.

Buffy shrugged, and taking Jonathan's example, tapped around on the walls. Given that she was holding a giant hammer, she did it a little more violently. She would've been more reluctant in her own sewers, but she figured LA had the money to repair any incidental damage. Sure enough, she ran into a part of the wall that sounded different, and a couple more swings knocked out the (relatively) thin wall panel that Jonathan had missed.

"Hey, this place looks kind of cozy!" Harmony said, stepping through the new hole first. The rest of the group followed her, and she had a point. This room was not only dry and clean, but apparently had electricity; there was even a little TV in the corner surrounded by worn furniture. The room seemed a little ransacked, as if someone had gone through things and then left in a hurry, and a weapons rack hanging in pride of place on the wall was empty. It'd probably been holding the bow Buffy had read about him using in his file; he was a real wild vamp type.

"Hey, this definitely wasn't in the plans!" Willow said from the radios. "How big is it? Maybe I can figure if there are any other ways out."

"Thinking it's the big old tunnel," Buffy said, moving forward into the new tunnel leading out of the other side of the room. "Andrew, can you direct your monkey, I dunno, more in this sort of direction?"

"Yeah, I've already been sending it around to the other side of this, it's ahead of us now. Maybe I can eliminate-" then he squinted and rubbed his forehead, cutting himself off. "Ow! Sneak attack. Something killed it! With claws."

"Probably in the right direction then," Buffy said. She reached a dead end in the new tunnel, but a few swipes of her hammer took care of that and they were back in the normal sewers. "Which way?"

"Nearby," he squeaked out, still looking pained. "Down that left junction."

Buffy dashed down and Harmony followed, leaving the rest of the group behind. Vampires could move fast in these conditions, and with all the delays already she was worried they wouldn't be able to catch Gwarg on his home turf. Before long they came to the sad little flying monkey body, floating in the muck and already disintegrating.

"Where is he? Already gone?" Harmony asked. Buffy frowned. Something seemed - and then something small tried to jump on her head from the ceiling.
KILL
Her hammer came around and pulped it before she was even sure what it was. A black cat maybe? Meanwhile Harmony was shrieking because a bat of all things had gotten tangled up in her hair. Unfortunately for her girlfriend, the high screams brought Buffy clarity. Claws, not teeth or arrows. "It's a trap! Harm, follow me when you can!" Then she dashed back towards the frailer group they'd left behind. More screaming came over the radio, and she picked up her pace.

The scene she found back at the hidden room's exit could've been worse, but it wasn't good. Giles had an arrow sticking out of his back but was trying to swordfight against a charging Gwarg anyway, and he'd have been losing if not for a swarm of flying monkeys by his side. Jonathan was nowhere to be seen, but even as Buffy was closing Gwarg tripped forwards over 'nothing' (which was rapidly resolving back into Jonathan) and went into a half-controlled cartwheel to avoid a fall.

It was unfortunate for him that Buffy arrived before he regained his balance. He was still able to dodge around the first swing of her hammer and sort of cling onto it as it flew by, but that just set him up for a solid punch with her other hand. He punched back at her but she just absorbed the blow to her head and then whipped her hammer back, throwing him off it and into the wall.

He tried to spring back off it and onto the attack but a couple of the flying monkeys got in his way and spoiled his move. Buffy made him pay by hammering him down into the muck, and then before he could get his feet back under him she had a stake in his chest and he was dust. Right after she was done Buffy turned and looked for her watcher. "Giles!"

The monkeys now lacked a target and had gone out of control, but she batted a few of them away and the rest flew off down into the sewers, hopefully not to make too much trouble before they disappeared. That done, she zoomed over to Giles, who looked surprisingly OK for someone with an arrow in his back. Buffy still wanted to fuss over him.

"It's only a flesh wound," Giles tried to dismiss it. "It barely penetrated the stab vest." Xander had bought a closetful of them with his last burst of arms shopping, and he'd insisted everyone (alive) wear one for 'the big ole assassin adventure.' Buffy had honestly forgot she even had one on, but everyone else had been complaining about how heavy they were. Well, this would show them to be careful and stuff.

"We still need to treat it," Buffy worried. "It might be poisoned or something. We should get back to the minivan."

"He doesn't have a history of using poison in his file, but it's probably seriously filthy down there. It could get infected," Willow's worried voice echoed over the radio.

"Ice cream headache doesn't begin to describe this," Andrew said in a quiet whine. Buffy belatedly noticed that he wasn't in good shape either, but Jonathan had been tending to him.

"Oh, umm, was that too many monkeys?" Buffy asked.

"It was more that he did a lot of different summons with a lot of them dying in between, I think," Jonathan said. "He should probably rest for a while too."

"Oooh, cool bow," Harmony said, finally catching up, her hair still looking a mess from the bat encounter. Well, at least she was having some fun.

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The vampire's parlor had its windows blacked out, blocking the light of the sunset, with the interior dimly lit by flickering candles as Buffy and her team cautiously moved inside. The air was heavy with incense, and seductive music from an earlier era played in the background. Buffy was wary for complex traps or sudden ambushes despite the inviting ambience, so it kind of caught her by surprise when Raven DeMorte strode into the room, calm as you please. Her hands were raised somewhere between a sign for peace and a come hither gesture.

Raven's eyes swept over them absent of concern, and full of… something else. "My my, what a distinguished group of brave adventurers I have today. Are you here to slay me?" Buffy had seen some pretty girls in her day, (and she'd recently started appreciating them a bit more viscerally) but Raven was really something else, and she was wearing something less. The vampire flicked a strap of her dress off her shoulder, making the garment hang precariously on her form. "But maybe you'd like me to slay you instead? I assure you there's enough for everyone to go to sleep very happy."
KILL
Buffy rolled her eyes. Sure, she was hot, but in what universe was a corny trick like that ever going to work. She hadn't even had any way of knowing Buffy and Harmony were… into that kind of thing, now. "Tell us another one lady. Maybe we'll all just bare our necks to make it easier for you to eat too?"

"I don't know Buffy, perhaps we should hear her out," Giles said.

"Yeah! We could make her promise," Andrew said. "Will you pinky swear not to kill us?"

"Uh, umm." Jonathan wasn't forming words very well, but his hesitant steps forward made his intent clear.

"What, do you have some kind of magic?" Buffy said, more amused than anything. "Hello, two of us are girls here!"

"I mean, it is a pretty attractive offer," Harmony said, sidling up to Buffy. "She isn't really strong enough to kill us, and the benefits, well… " Harmony vulgarly indicated the space around her own breasts with both hands, as if to remind Buffy of the assets Raven was displaying right in front of them.

"Really? You too? You people are sex crazed," Buffy said. Then she darted forward and traded a few blows with a shocked and backpedaling Raven DeMorte before finishing her off with a casual staking. Buffy shook her head in annoyance as the dust cleared. "Everyone's always obsessed with the breasts."

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Buffy looked on in dismay as the weird amalgam creature darted away on its bicycle. You wouldn't have thought there were bikes built for three legs, but there one was, and it was going way too fast for her to catch it on foot. She looked to the rest of her group and they had their crossbows out and firing, but none of them had the aim to hit such a weirdly moving target, and she didn't think she could manage it with her hammer, either.

Harmony had been prepared though, and she might save the night yet. She drew out the bow she'd looted from Gwarg and strung one of the few arrows that had survived the battle. She was like a vision of Diana as she carefully aimed and then loosed, her bowstring flicking musically as the arrow sailed through the air. Her form looked so pretty that Buffy thought she must have done archery before at some point, and for a moment she wondered why Harmony hadn't tried to use a bow this summer already.

Then the moment passed, as the arrow flew super-wide and impaled an innocent utility pole. Everyone gave her a skeptical look.

"What? I spent all my time in Archery Club trying to look sexy, not trying to hit stuff!" She said.

Buffy looked forlornly back at the escaping Chaos demon as Harmony pulled back and loosed again, only to miss even wider. She was about to ask Willow to predict how they could circle around and cut it off when blocks away, a minivan raced out the alley the bike was passing and bowled right over the demon and his special bike. It clunked as it grinded over the body, and a bike tire went sailing off from the crash and rolled down the street. Buffy wasn't sure the demon was dead, but the minivan went into reverse and backed over it with another two clunks. And then it drove forward again, over it a third time.

When Buffy and the gang reached the scene of the crime, Cynthia was out of the van and calmly examining the corpse. "I believe that's one for me. Now, where do we need to go next?"

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"Stop for a second, there's an old guy moving through the hall," Willow's voice over the radio was just a whisper. Buffy didn't really want to have any witnesses for this one.

The necessity worried her, a little bit. To her neighbors in the skyhigh apartment complex, Vanessa Brewer probably just seemed like a normal person. The government thought she was too; at least officially. She had a real passport and a well paying consulting job; the two times she'd been arrested were just embarrassing mistakes on the part of public servants. After all, a blind lady could hardly be dangerous.

Her Wolfram and Hart file had shown Buffy and the Scoobies otherwise. Vanessa Brewer was a trained assassin with mystical powers and a known kill list a dozen names long. Sure, she was technically blind, but with her monk training to 'see with the heart' it seemed like more of a bonus than a disability. It let her be the worst kind of criminal, one that the police couldn't ever convince a jury to put away, even when she killed powerless civilians that had little to do with magic or the supernatural.

Buffy still felt a little conflicted about how she had to do this. Sneaking into the building masked and in stealth gear and having Willow remove all traces on the security footage made her feel like she was the criminal assassin, even if she knew in her head that Brewer would certainly kill again if something wasn't done. She was like Faith, a human with superpowers running amok in a world that didn't know how to deal. Buffy had to solve the problem now, before Wolfram and Hart sent her to Sunnydale and she was attending a funeral. That's what she was telling herself, and it still didn't feel good.

"Alright Buffy, you're good, you should be able to reach her door," For her part, Willow hadn't shown any such compunctions. Giles had been more understanding, but there had been a reassuring lecture about the difference between humans and civilians, and how it was the duty of the Slayer in the modern world to stop people that the police couldn't. Harmony obviously didn't care about these kinds of subtleties and even had wanted to come along herself, but Buffy had felt better leaving her outside with the rest of her beaten-up gang in case Brewer made it all the way down the fire escape outside her window.

They'd hit five more assassins since Gwarg and none had been nearly as problematic as him, but injuries and tiredness still piled up among the frailer members of the team. Giles' wound from earlier had only been skin deep, but she was still concerned for her watcher, and Andrew's mana supply or whatever it was that he used was only just recovering from his overuse earlier. Even Jonathan had gotten bruised up when he'd taken point against the invisible girl (Buffy was like, 95% sure it hadn't been Marcie.) Without Harmony to anchor them in an emergency Buffy worried that someone experienced like Brewer could be too dangerous to fight.

And now here Buffy was, right at Brewer's door, the hallway abandoned. It had a nice little nameplate with braille. Buffy wondered if she had friends who were actually blind. Ugh, no more vacillating. Buffy hardened her heart and snapped the doorknob easily, pushing the door open to reveal her target's upscale open-plan apartment.


The scene wasn't what she expected. Brewer was already standing by the kitchen window, facing Buffy with sheer terror in her expression and a lit match in her hand. She threw it at the stove and there was an explosion of accelerated fire as she flipped out the window, surely looking to clamber down the fire escape and away from her spontaneous arson attempt. The fire was already spreading to cover her escape, but Buffy thought she might be able to get through it mostly OK if she moved fast.

Vote: What does Buffy do in the heat of the moment?

[] Her friends outside can handle the assassin, Buffy has to try to put out the fire and pull the alarm before it gets out of control. This is a giant complex and tons of people could get hurt.

[] The fire department is going to have to handle this one. Buffy dives through the fire and goes after Brewer to make sure she can't fight her way free through the rest of the team.
 
[X] Her friends outside can handle the assassin, Buffy has to try to put out the fire and pull the alarm before it gets out of control. This is a giant complex and tons of people could get hurt.

Gold is keeping the cops from getting involved in our murder spree, but that is going to get pretty strained if an apartment building burns down. I would rather let Vanessa get away and not have Buffy thinking back to that time she chose to chase a lady and dozens died in a fire.
 
Gwarg was pretty darn tough there. He had his first line of minions, a decoy base, and a ranged weapon (something most vampires don't use enough of, and one that would be good at killing humans and vampires too). With him being this dangerous, I think going after him was the right choice. We eliminated him now and it doesn't look like we've lost too much time. I'm curious why Raven's abilities didn't work on Buffy. Part of being a Slayer (or her newfound Slayer+ stuff)? In any case, it was quite helpful here. As for the vote...

Hmm, this is a tough one. I'm actually inclined to go after Vanessa here, as there's a serious chance she could kill one of them. They're already tired from the vests and killing 8 assassins thus far (Gwarg was the third, and he had put them through a fair bit for a random sewer vamp). Vanessa is also one of W&H's deadliest assassins. Angel himself couldn't beat her at first, only managing it after learning only a vampire could pull on her (and while I love Harmony, she has nowhere near the experience or time to figure that out here). It really sucks that we can't save the people here, but I think we should focus on Vanessa. A building going up in flames is bad, but there shouldn't be anything supernatural making it worse or something the firefighters can't deal with.

[X] The fire department is going to have to handle this one. Buffy dives through the fire and goes after Brewer to make sure she can't fight her way free through the rest of the team.
 
I'm curious why Raven's abilities didn't work on Buffy. Part of being a Slayer (or her newfound Slayer+ stuff)?
Looking back at the segment there was more invisitext there. KILL showed up right after she made her seduction attempt, and also right before one of the pets jumped at Buffy in the sewers. Seeing as the first time it showed up was when we were being mind controlled by a dragon I would not be surprised if it was helping Buffy to shrug off Raven's mojo.
 
Looking back at the segment there was more invisitext there. KILL showed up right after she made her seduction attempt, and also right before one of the pets jumped at Buffy in the sewers. Seeing as the first time it showed up was when we were being mind controlled by a dragon I would not be surprised if it was helping Buffy to shrug off Raven's mojo.

Ah, that makes sense, I had forgotten to check for invisi-text
 
[X] Her friends outside can handle the assassin, Buffy has to try to put out the fire and pull the alarm before it gets out of control. This is a giant complex and tons of people could get hurt.
 
[x] Her friends outside can handle the assassin, Buffy has to try to put out the fire and pull the alarm before it gets out of control. This is a giant complex and tons of people could get hurt.
 
I'm not sure what to do about that Assassin just yet. However I do know one thing, we need to give Harmony some Archery lessons.
 
[X] Her friends outside can handle the assassin, Buffy has to try to put out the fire and pull the alarm before it gets out of control. This is a giant complex and tons of people could get hurt.
 
[X] Her friends outside can handle the assassin, Buffy has to try to put out the fire and pull the alarm before it gets out of control. This is a giant complex and tons of people could get hurt.
 
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