Historical Events That Definitely Occurred (Fate Quest)
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oh definitely but 24 AD the Roman empire has bigger problems, plus at least early on we should be able to hide the nature of our inventions and just seem as an eccentric inventor until we have a few dozen stored up. Roman era is VERY welcoming to inventors. Plus the church tends to be a bunch more watchful of stuff like this and hates anything that goes against their Doctrine. I am a LOT less worried about an emperor who at worst will force us to make guns for them. The church might just burn us at the stake instead.
depends on the exact time period dude, but most rulers for a long while were well into their pocket. my biggest worry is the church noticing us and the rulers not seeing the value of our inventions and letting them burn us. (literally)Sure, just like during Investiture Controversy or Frederick II's wars with papacy.There were enough rulers willing to challenge Church's authority. I don't see any problem here. Really weird fearmongering.
Hence the term most lol! but women were expected to not go to war in the Roman's case.
literally anything that could even be remotely considered to go against what they say is right. exactly what depended on the time period and to what degree too but still not something I wish to risk.
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Anybody have any idea which universe/series this is?
When I saw the title of the quest, and the years we could potentially be born into, I immediately thought of the following:
1. Assassin's Creed
2. Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem
3. the Nasuverse
4. Yu-Gi-Oh
[X][Profession] CEO (+?, Unlocks ? and ?)
[X][Gender] Boy
[X][Date of Birth] 1534
When I saw the title of the quest, and the years we could potentially be born into, I immediately thought of the following:
1. Assassin's Creed
2. Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem
3. the Nasuverse
4. Yu-Gi-Oh
[X][Profession] CEO (+?, Unlocks ? and ?)
[X][Gender] Boy
[X][Date of Birth] 1534
The Church was also the patron of scientists though. I would advise you to educate yourself instead of spreading misconceptions.
Why would no one see the value of firearms?
Are you even aware that gunpowder began to be used when the Church still dominated Euorpe? Also another misconception, heretics could be punished only by secular authorities. We don't have to worry about burning for the next couple of centuries, because this type of execution won't be used until later times. We just can't preach militant atheism, simple. Bigger problems at the end of the ninth century are the ongoing Viking Age and pagan invasions so our inventions will be in high demand.
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So close, yet so far... This will be fun...
Edit: It might be Eiyuu Senki!
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not that early on sire. And they were the less the patron of science and more of arts dude. science tended to advance more outside of europe during their reign until 1300+.
after that sure they helped a bit but not that much compared to what was invented without their help.
oh yes I do. Are you aware of how long it took to catch on because everyone valued knights more? literally centuries. It did not truly take over the entire military too until after pistoliers were a thing so noble sons could have a proper position on horseback at least in several countries. Heck you realize many nobles and rulers turned their noses up on Gunpowder until AFTER hundreds of them were being slaughtered in battles?Why would no one see the value of firearms?
mmmm if I had to take a guess I would say
Jojo's bizzare adventure or Drifters.
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Well, one of them is right. I will say that much.
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alright then it is definitely either Creed or the Nasuverse... I can't see it being eternal darkness even if I know you like Nintendo.... and Yugioh seems a bit weird for these dates.
..... And while I can see Creed being possible.... I think its the Nasuverse with near complete certainty. We will see though.
Yes, this early. Already in Dark Ages christian monks actively investigated traditions of roman learning. The leading scholars of early middle ages were also clergymen. Have you ever heard about Carolingian Renaissance? Charlemagne himself was advised by clergymen in scientific matters. Cathedral schools developed as centers of education and later evolved into the medieval universities. The Church has also invested greatly in engineering, architecture and astronomy. Jesus, being this stubborn in ignorance.
So it had nothing to do with the Church's scientific stance.
Gee, it's like firearms were being improved slowly.
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well duh they were the "patrons of science" if you put it like that, but thats only because everyone else with the slightest qualification was dead. They were most certainly not inventing anything significant however. Sure, architecture woooo go nice pretty buildings! woo they preserved Roman knowledge and taught people! that totally makes them scientists and inventors lolYes, this early. Already in Dark Ages christian monks actively investigated traditions of roman learning. The leading scholars of early middle ages were also clergymen. Have you ever heard about Carolingian Renaissance? Charlemagne himself was advised by clergymen in scientific matters. Cathedral schools developed as centers of education and later evolved into the medieval universities. The Church has also invested greatly in engineering, architecture and astronomy. Jesus, being this stubborn in ignorance.
. Oh wow they made the places that became the universities later on because of the books they preserved but did nothing with! good for them!They also commended Galileo for Heresy for saying they were wrong, Nearly did the same to Issac Newton, and the only reason they were not doing so earlier than that was because they were the only real place to get a book in europe at the time. Not that they ever really invented anything or gave many people money for it.
oh wow its like I said the rulers nobles would not protect us in any way if the Church came after us became me saying the church wouldn't come after us. Someone knows how to read properly! (sarcasm)So it had nothing to do with the Church's scientific stance.
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tbh I only added Yu-Gi-Oh as a possible universe because of 2 reasons:
1) GM said that the "ending" was far, far in the future. Possibly in modern times.
2) There's a CEO option as one of our possible past lives. Yu-Gi-Oh is known for the many, many organizations that use the power of trading cards for their purposes over the course of human history. Yliaster and Doma being the most obvious examples.
This isn't the reason why I voted the CEO option, but having such experience in our past life would certainly synergize with the setting in a meta way.
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Yes, because western roman empire was overthrown by barbarians.
Sure, just among many others Saint Hildegard, benedictine abbess, is considered to be the founder of scientific natural history in Germany. Woman scientist at that! You're embarassing yourself at this point.
Yes, that makes them exactly these. You seem upset. I'm sorry that facts destroy your worldview.that totally makes them scientists and inventors lol
Wrong. They were open to Galileo's theory but told him the evidence for it was inconclusive. He refused to listen and intended to reinterpret the Bible by unproven theory. No wonder the clergy didn't like it. Also he himself was funded by the Church.
Newton didn't even live in catholic country. Were you not aware that the nobility could order a copying of the book? Not all scientists in middle ages were clergymen.
Also it seems you repeat yourself. Not my problem that "evil Church oppressing poor inventors" exists only in your head.What are you on about? Church would have no reason to come after us in the first place. And really, it depends on the ruler or noble. Especially those weaker, threatened by more powerful enemies.
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[][Profession] Biochemist (+?, Unlocks ?)
[][Date of Birth] 24 A.D.
[X][Gender] Boy
roman era presents a lot of advantages
first as biochemist,we can easily make a living of pseudo-medicine
but more important,our knowledge of history allow us to capitalize on certain things (like the existence of america for example) and invest on the procces to create steel and steam meachines to bring the industrial revolution centuries earlier (even if its happens after our death)
as well,the roman republic is a good place to create social reforms,the introduction of the steam machine as repleacement for work force,would allow social movements that would give slave citizenship
[][Date of Birth] 24 A.D.
[X][Gender] Boy
roman era presents a lot of advantages
first as biochemist,we can easily make a living of pseudo-medicine
but more important,our knowledge of history allow us to capitalize on certain things (like the existence of america for example) and invest on the procces to create steel and steam meachines to bring the industrial revolution centuries earlier (even if its happens after our death)
as well,the roman republic is a good place to create social reforms,the introduction of the steam machine as repleacement for work force,would allow social movements that would give slave citizenship
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Violation of Rule 2 - Dislike of organized religion is fine, but this is an insultingly broad brush, and appalling historical illiteracy.
damn I didn't even think of that..... you might be right about the yugioh thing then. I also didn't see the far into the future thing. Though that still leaves the Nasuverse possibility a major thing.... but not creed then, no way I can see it being creed.
sorry, 1 major thing that is about as basic as it gets is definitely enough to make up for literal centuries of no real inventions. Besides she probably just rediscovered it something as basic as that was almost certainly around before so much knowledge was lost in Alexandra and the fall of Rome.
not really I find this very good for the lols. I have 0 respect for the christian religion or any Organized religion for that matter given what little good they bring into the world is FAR outweighed by the evils they have done. The only thing the Christians did that was massively significant was save the knowledge from Romes fall, and even then they hoarded the knowledge for a LONG time.
In any case, ths is getting out of hand and derailing the thread. Besides it does not matter as apparently the era we start in is unimportant.
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in fact with the near certainty that this early game is just an intro.......
[X][Profession] History Teacher (+?, Unlocks ? and ?)
[X][Gender] Boy
[x][Date of Birth] 24 A.D.
I am betting on this being Nasu-verse. And since thats almost certain I think History and Biochemistry unlock magic.
[X][Profession] History Teacher (+?, Unlocks ? and ?)
[X][Gender] Boy
[x][Date of Birth] 24 A.D.
I am betting on this being Nasu-verse. And since thats almost certain I think History and Biochemistry unlock magic.
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ya but to me that screams archer class which is tough if we end up in the grail war....Being a gun salesman and being born during Oda Nobunaga's time is bound to be successful.
Nobu's gun could pretty much blow away anything tho, and if your legend is linked to hers as being a provider of those weapons, you'd get the same benefits too.
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Why restrict yourselves to being a...mere gun "salesman"? When you could stand at the very top of the arms manufacturing market? The option didn't say what sort of CEO we would be, true, but do you just want to make a railgun and then sell the patent/blueprint off to the highest bidder? Or do you want to call the shots from beginning to end, and make a profit off of it?
Do you see yourself as a mere cog in the machine, or do you see yourself made into a legend who revolutionized the way wars were fought?
Do you see yourself as a mere cog in the machine, or do you see yourself made into a legend who revolutionized the way wars were fought?
[x][Profession] Biochemist (+?, Unlocks ?)
[x][Gender] Girl
[x][Date of Birth] 24 A.D.
[x][Gender] Girl
[x][Date of Birth] 24 A.D.
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And while I acknowledge that it's not a prerequisite for CEOs to know these details, having the knowledge makes them more effective.
CEOs are also required to be skilled and highly efficient in multiple fields, which means we'd have various experience in things like Leadership, Communication, Logistics, etc. Surely we aren't planning to take on the burden of manufacturing AND distribution of arms, right? We need people for that. And time. Time we won't have if we fail to recruit others into our cause.
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BUT at this point, the argument is purely academic since it all hinges on how the GM wants to write our past life... and I just noticed that our character only remembers up to his highschool years. I concede the argument.
Violation of Rule 3 - Historical Illiteracy is not an excuse to get this uncivil with him.
"The Church didn't invent airplanes or cars in Middle Ages. So backwards! Hehe".
Instead of making dumb assumptions you should really open some book.
So you're just butthurt ignorant. At least it's nice of you to finally admit that.
