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One Eye, Full Of Insanity (A Gravity Falls/RWBY Jaune Arc Crossover Quest)

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[X] Use your eye for/on...
—[X] Research how to optimize your physical training. Also ask dad for help with this.
[X] Try to socialize more with...(this one is important too)
—[X] your baby sister (???)
[X] Train your body (increase strength)
 
Changing to this
[X] Use your eye for/on...
—[X] Research how to optimize your physical training. Also ask dad for help with this.
[X] Try to socialize more with...(this one is important too)
—[X] your baby sister (???)
[X] Train your body (increase strength)

Maybe we should alternate betwen physical an spiritual every other month
 
[X] Use your eye for/on...
—[X] Research how to optimize your physical training. Also ask dad for help with this.
[X] Try to socialize more with...(this one is important too)
—[X] your baby sister (???)
[X] Train your body (increase strength)

Welp you lose some and win some.
 
[X] Use your eye for/on...
—[X] Research how to optimize your physical training. Also ask dad for help with this.
[X] Try to socialize more with...(this one is important too)
—[X] your baby sister (???)
[X] Train your body (increase strength)
 
Hello guys! I have an announcement! I decided to put my other 2 quests into hiatus because of computer reasons and rewrite! Now I can focus on this and the new naruto project I'm making. So that means more chapters!(also a time limit for voting)

Also, please look at my new quest if you're interested in Naruto and please vote!: here
 
So... Naturally we'll reserve using the Rewind Pocket Watch for undoing tragedies, right? One use per year, so it should be reserved for important things anyways.
 
[X] Use your eye for/on...
—[X] Research how to optimize your physical training. Also ask dad for help with this.
[X] Try to socialize more with...(this one is important too)
—[X] your baby sister (???)
[X] Train your body (increase strength)
 
z.no said:
You guys also needed to specify that you didn't need the gift and could live without it.
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I outright reject this under the simple logic of: the God of Wisdom said otherwise. And when dealing with a whole bundle of unknowns, going against the God of Wisdom is dumb.


On another note, you still haven't actually explained what the All-Seeing-Eye does. You described it as having weaknesses compared to the other versions of eyes, but didn't tell us what it's strengths are ... or even a basic description of its function.
 
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mastigos said:
On another note, you still haven't actually explained what the All-Seeing-Eye does. You described it as having weaknesses compared to the other versions of eyes, but didn't tell us what it's strengths are ... or even a basic description of its function.
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I actually did give you guys info about it. İt was when you guys tried to choose a power
 
z.no said:
[yes, give us info...] wins! (Because ım bored of waiting)

Basically the eye gives you basic info about the target.

If you look at a human or faunus, you will see what type of weapon they use, what is their semblance, what type of style they use or what is their thought base(ideology and that type of things). This way you can read your enemy before they move or learn if they're a threat or not.

If you look at a weapon, you will learn how to use it different styles(you will NOT immediatelly learn how to do them, you will just learn how to use them in the best ways.) or how to build them.

If you look at an object, you will learn how to use them(like scrolls or computers)

These type's of things
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Don't you remember?
 
z.no said:
Well, when I was writing this, I decided that not everyone would listen to the god of wisdom. Time baby doesn't like us at all, so he doesn't have a reason to listen the god of wisdom.
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right, my edit was too late it seems so:

On another note, you still haven't actually explained what the All-Seeing-Eye does. You described it as having weaknesses compared to the other versions of eyes, but didn't tell us what it's strengths are ... or even a basic description of its function.

Beyond that, from a Doylist perspective I'm noticing something distinctly toxic in this quest that you should be wary of. The vast majority of the choices available to the players have either been an endless training montage or a "guess what the GM thinks is the win condition". There's been very little actual buy-in opportunities on the narrative. The closest we've come to that is "pick a moment of slice of life". I'm not sure if that's the best explanation of what I'm seeing but I've got to go
 
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z.no said:
Don't you remember?
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Yeah it feels more useful in places where we don't have a lot of friends.
Basic things like learning scrolls could be wrapped up in "ask daddy to teach you how to use a scroll", but then we can use the eye for things like "examine what this suspicious person is up to, really!"
 
mastigos said:
right, my edit was too late it seems so:

On another note, you still haven't actually explained what the All-Seeing-Eye does. You described it as having weaknesses compared to the other versions of eyes, but didn't tell us what it's strengths are ... or even a basic description of its function.

Beyond that, from a Doylist perspective I'm noticing something distinctly toxic in this quest that you should be wary of. The vast majority of the choices available to the players have either been an endless training montage or a "guess what the GM thinks is the win condition". There's been very little actual buy-in opportunities on the narrative. The closest we've come to that is "pick a moment of slice of life". I'm not sure if that's the best explanation of what I'm seeing but I've got to go
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Hmmmm, you're actually right on that point. But this is my first quest. I made this specifically to learn where are my wrongs are. So can you help me? Should I rewrite this?
 
z.no said:
Hmmmm, you're actually right on that point. But this is my first quest. I made this specifically to learn where are my wrongs are. So can you help me? Should I rewrite this?
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It sounds marginally good in a battle against an unknown enemy, but it feels broken against spies, since we would know their ideologies and allegiance at a glance. Any suspicious people can be discovered, and yeah, we need to *actually do work* to uncover their ploy, but that would be the case with telepathy, since no one's gonna believe we just read the enemy's mind, unless we're willing to have them believe that's our semblance?
 
mastigos said:
There's been very little actual buy-in opportunities on the narrative. The closest we've come to that is "pick a moment of slice of life". I'm not sure if that's the best explanation of what I'm seeing but I've got to go
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What if I add an event every 3 months? Would that be good? What does all of you say?
 
z.no said:
What if I add an event every 3 months? Would that be good? What does all of you say?
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Yeah that could be good. Maybe half year intervals for our early years? (before we train in a school?)
 
mastigos said:
Beyond that, from a Doylist perspective I'm noticing something distinctly toxic in this quest that you should be wary of. The vast majority of the choices available to the players have either been an endless training montage or a "guess what the GM thinks is the win condition". There's been very little actual buy-in opportunities on the narrative. The closest we've come to that is "pick a moment of slice of life". I'm not sure if that's the best explanation of what I'm seeing but I've got to go
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Eh, don't think it's as big an issue as you make it out to be. Sure the QM has some ideas to certain win conditions but it should be noted that a QM does have a right to decide what certain win conditions are. The main difference I see is that the QM prefers to give us less hints to make it less obvious and have us go with more a write in then outright choices to actually make us think more about a choice. And I think that's fine since not all quests need to follow the same formula's as others do.
z.no said:
Hmmmm, you're actually right on that point. But this is my first quest. I made this specifically to learn where are my wrongs are. So can you help me? Should I rewrite this?
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Eh, I think the only real isses were the one at the start with the difficulty thing where the hard mode seemed harder than what the questers assumed but I chalk it up to it being normal that the QM didn't consider that since it was obvious to them. Another is making it seem like there needs to be a very specific way to win as shown with you mentioning that the Eye we picked was the worst choice. Of course it was seen that it wasn't that be since the questers seemed to have surprised you with showing that the eye we picked did have uses that you didn't consider which got us to normal normal mode.

Basically I suggest instead of outright saying that the questers 'screwed' something up that they made a sub-optimal choice but that just because we did doesn't mean that we doomed ourselves and that we will just need to be creative to find other solutions with what we got like we did with our all seeing eye which turned out to be more useful than even the QM considered.

Also to avoid the whole training montage thing where people are worried that players have to choose between training and social I suggest just having mandatory training and social actions with one extra actions being what the players decide to use it for. Something like we get 2 training actions and one social action. Basically balance things out.

Finally I would say that no, you should not rewrite the quest. It's perfectly normal for QMs to smooth things out throughout the quest and it would be better to find solutions first instead of just going for a re-write or else you would never get anything done. That and people would likely not be as interested in following if they think a QM is just going to abandon every quest they have. No offense meant to certain QMs.
 
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Red Bovine said:
Eh, don't think it's as big an issue as you make it out to be. Sure the QM has some ideas to certain win conditions but it should be noted that a QM does have a right to decide what certain win conditions are. The main difference I see is that the QM prefers to give us less hints to make it less obvious and have us go with more a write in then outright choices to actually make us think more about a choice. And I think that's fine since not all quests need to follow the same formula's as others do.

Eh, I think the only real isses were the one at the start with the difficulty thing where the hard mode seemed harder than what the questers assumed but I chalk it up to it being normal that the QM didn't consider that since it was obvious to them. Another is making it seem like there needs to be a very specific way to win as shown with you mentioning that the Eye we picked was the worst choice. Of course it was seen that it wasn't that be since the questers seemed to have surprised you with showing that the eye we picked did have uses that you didn't consider which got us to normal normal mode.

Basically I suggest instead of outright saying that the questers 'screwed' something that they made a sub-optimal choice but that just because we did doesn't mean that we doomed ourselves and that we will just need to be creative to find other solutions with what we got like we did with our all seeing eye which turned out to be more useful than even the QM considered.

Also to avoid the whole training montage thing where people are worried that players have to choose between training and social I suggest just having mandatory training and social actions with one extra actions being what the players decide to use it for. Something like we get 2 training actions and one social action. Basically balance things out.

Finally I would say that no, you should not rewrite the quest. It's perfectly normal for QMs to smooth things out throughout the quest and it would be better to find solutions first instead of just going for a re-write or else you would never get anything done. That and people would likely not be as interested in following if they think a QM is just going to abandon every quest they have. No offense meant to certain QMs.
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Okay, this is very informative for me. I will try to make a new system that most of you will like. But since this is a quest, will you guys help me on this?
 
z.no said:
Okay, this is very informative for me. I will try to make a new system that most of you will like. But since this is a quest, will you guys help me on this?
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I mean I'll help as best I can, but no promises!
 
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