Shield Hero, but hopefully Heroic
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edmantgoog
init high just high
[X] Haaa? And here I thought we were getting along so well. Blatantly confront the hostility in the room and rip the reasons out of them with words.
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- ☯
[X] Shikata ga nai. It cannot be helped, you can suffer this indignity after all, you can still exploit him for resources.
- Location
- latvia
[X] Shikata ga nai. It cannot be helped, you can suffer this indignity after all, you can still exploit him for resources.
Hopefully we never get curse series. They fuck up their users good look at the spear as an example for that.
Shield for some reason was toned down version? Like it spiked but nothing close to other curse series on how badly it hit their users.
Hopefully we never get curse series. They fuck up their users good look at the spear as an example for that.
Shield for some reason was toned down version? Like it spiked but nothing close to other curse series on how badly it hit their users.
Garrison
Ah, thats how you put things down here.
Well, Im honestly more interested with the inner workings of the world than the actual plot. More specifically, how does magic work in this setting? Is it aquired or inate? How is it trained? Is there a cost asosiated with it? What is the general uh, flavor of it? If that makes sense?
[X] Haaa? And here I thought we were getting along so well. Blatantly confront the hostility in the room and rip the reasons out of them with words.
- Location
- Italy
First of all, everything and everyone in the world is subject to a game-like system, with levels and stats and all that stuff. Anyone can see their own status, killing monsters gives exp, you've probably seen this elsewhere.
Classes are important, as they shape the growth of stats when you level. So mages get more MP, fighters get more strength and so on.
There are a few ways to use magic in the setting, but the most common one is a tiered system based on incantations. The incantations are highly variable, apparently just popping up in the caster's mind while they cast, and are often 'colored' by who casts. Everyone has at least one affinity to an 'element', which can be anything from elemental magic, to illusions, sealing, support and other abstract stuff like that. Magic too has a game-like slant to it, for example fire magic is also capable of healing and buffing, though not as well as water or support. The magic tiers are (from the web novel, so that could change) Faust, Zuveit, Dreifach and Revelation, with the last one being something normal people can't cast, as it requires some special energy exclusive to heroes. Elements can be combined, though it's apparently rare. Multiple magic users can cast something in concert to amplify the effect, which I think was called Choral magic or something similar.
Another way of doing magic is the Dragon Pulse, that requires a blessing from a dragon. It's supposed to be, like using magic from your surroundings rather than your own, though it's never quite explained in a way that makes sense. I think one of the examples it gave was subtracting fire from the earth to use shadow magic, so you could just consider it a plot device to enable cool shit.
Magical energy is important when creating items, as crafters unconsciously put magic in items when creating them. This greatly affects an item's quality (which is an actual stat), though this is not known by basically anyone. The assumption then is that most people can't actually feel magical energy, but rely on the system to cast spells.
Learning spells is done either the easy way, by buying orbs that work like skillbooks, or the hard way, by buying a book and actually studying. Some monsters have an innate knowledge of magic, like the Filorials Queens. Dragons of course know Dragon Pulse.
Checking the questions again, magic is innate but has to be learned to be used, we don't know how it's trained but it doesn't require more than a book and effort (for heroes and their companions at least), the only cost seems to be generic MP.
Flavor, I'm not sure I know what you mean, but I can make a guess. I said it above, but the magic of this world is very game-like. It's structured, relatively rigid. Even it's use centers around combat - you have attack spells, healing, buffs, but I don't think we ever see magic directly being used as anything but a way to fight. There is no art or convenience to it, it's primarily a weapon to fight better, as you would expect from an RPG.
If you want to ask anything else, feel free.
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Ancient Scholar
Amateur Editor/Beta
- Location
- United States
Grab the money and fuck off to beast kingdom as quick as we can.
- Location
- latvia
If the spear spinoff is included in worldbuilding consideration. (It does actualy have some nogets of descent world building) The kingdom will go for the kill straight away if the shield tries to leave the kingdom as opposed them being content to drag shields reputation through mud at the start. The summoning of all 4 heroes was a political move (stupid one but still one) if the hero ditches them they lose some rep with other kingdoms.
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Archon of Ghosts
Servant of Rome
- Location
- Luxembourg
Especially considering that they did so illegally, as another Kingdom was meant to summon the heroes. They still want to draw in that political capital, which would shattered if one of the heroes just left towards their enemies.
Ancient Scholar
Amateur Editor/Beta
- Location
- United States
I think we should still try. Anything to get back at this kingdom.
- Location
- latvia
Right point is now we are more likely to die (hero or no hero we are still lvl1) than actually succeed leaving. We need to at least live past 1st wave to have a good shot at leaving kingdom.
[X] Shikata ga nai. It cannot be helped, you can suffer this indignity after all, you can still exploit him for resources.
Don't fall for the blatant provocation guys. Get what they have to give, then we go deal with problem.
Calling him out feels good, but is completely counterproductive to actually succeeding at anything.
Its not like he's any worse than the last commander we had.
Don't fall for the blatant provocation guys. Get what they have to give, then we go deal with problem.
Calling him out feels good, but is completely counterproductive to actually succeeding at anything.
Its not like he's any worse than the last commander we had.
[X] Shikata ga nai. It cannot be helped, you can suffer this indignity after all, you can still exploit him for resources.
- Location
- Northern Ireland, UK
[X] Shikata ga nai. It cannot be helped, you can suffer this indignity after all, you can still exploit him for resources.
Arrival Final
Sword of Mars
Magical Girl Aficionado
- Location
- Canada
[X] Shikata ga nai. It cannot be helped, you can suffer this indignity after all, you can still exploit him for resources.
You clamp down on the urge to settle things without words, your fists can only go so far after all and the Prime Minister didn't raise a barbarian. Despite the insult you took it with a smile, and you silently revel in how your lack of reaction bothers the king. You feel actually a little bit giddy, as Aultcray is going to lose this bout without you having to do anything at all.
"Your Majesty you've forgotten someone!" Motoyasu, you can tell just by looking at him is guilty from his reaction earlier and feels bad just by looking at you and that's perfect. This small petty display has already driven a confrontation between him and the king. "Ah, yes... The Shield Hero... Please tell us your name." The way he said Shield Hero was with a clear disdain that even Motoyasu could pick up, leaving him visibly confused he looked ready to say something about it before the Sword Hero stopped him. "Sakura Yukihime, fourteen. I was a soldier."
You hear a startled gasp come from Motoyasu, even the seemingly aloof Ren looked appalled... Itsuki is a mess to get a read on, and you'll just leave that at that. You've decided to let go of your grudge against Motoyasu for now for being so helpful. You don't really understand why they reacted that way, it was pretty normal where you were from. This was just more evidence that the other Heroes came from somewhere else entirely. The mood in the room has shifted, you have gained more respect from the court officials who as a whole look a lot less sure about you then a few minutes ago thanks to the Spear Hero.
Aultcray seems to realize he fucked up too, signaling the Priest from earlier to continue for him, "U-uh if everyone can confirm their statuses please!", with Ren helpfully chipping in that it was the 'Icon' (whatever that means, you assume he's referring to the little box) at the edge of our vision. He looked ready to comment on something, but disregarded it with a thoughtful frown.
You looked at it.
Sakura Yukihime (Yukihime Sakura) - Shield Hero Lvl 8
Equipment: Small Shield (Legendary Weapon)
Status Condition:
Nicotine Withdrawal
Malnutrition
A vague info graphic of your strengths and weaknesses were also there, along with various lists you don't have anything in aside from the Small Shield. You endeavored to keep the fact that you were level 8 a secret after hearing the disappointed groan from Motoyasu from starting at lvl 1. It's probably because you've killed people before that gave you your assigned level, you gave an amused self depreciating snort at your complete lack of noncombat skill. You need to get a hobby.
So far you think that the Shield is useful so far, being able to accurately see your health conditions on demand is useful enough on its own. Motoyasu came over to get your attention looking a bit apprehensive, "Er, it's too bad you have the Shield class you know, it's the-" he was interrupted before he could finish, "You may enter now." Man, Aultcray really wants you all out of his hair huh. A bunch of assorted medieval looking folk entered the big ass doors you were sure was highly inefficient. "They are volunteers to join the Four Legendary Heroes on their journey to save the world" Priest says, feeling much more confident you think amused "The stronger you get, the better your legendary weapon becomes however the legendary weapons either do not work in close proximity or stunt their growth so we prepared for you to set up parties before your arrival."
It was highly amusing to see that they already knew which one they wanted to go work for, like it couldn't be any more blatant. Aultcray seems to realize this too and raises his hands to rub the sides of his temples at the mistakes this was costing him, he looked contemplative for a moment before a court official with a stupid looking mustache crowed out "Ha! Looks like you aren't that popular Shield Demon-", "What the fuck is wrong with all of you? You guys all seem to have been against the Shield Hero the entire time!" Motoyasu finally blew up, you were honestly quite surprised but you suppose it must look really bad to him. A young girl being preyed upon and bullied by a fat cat aristocracy, you imagine that it was an easy decision for him to come to your defense. "Motoyasu's right, the lack of respect you've shown the Shield Hero is absurd." Itsuki was a surprising addition to your defense, Ren merely nodded his head in solidarity.
Seeing your fellow heroes defend you was pretty surreal nobody has really done that before. Motoyasu unexpectedly grabbed your hand and started leading you like you were a small child "We'll pick out our own party members without your interference!" You were shocked, what the fuck. You appreciated the sentiment you really did, but you weren't a little kid you know. By the time you shook yourself out of your stupor you were nearly out of the castle, and you rudely yanked your hand back. "I could've taken care of myself you know... But thanks anyway Motoyasu", "Ah, uh, no problem Yukihime seeing them bully you like that, I just acted without thinking!" Motoyasu looked properly abashed so you wont hold too much of a grudge at him treating you like a small child, but it was nice, it sorta reminded you of how your father was when he was alive. "W-wait, WAIT!" the Priest ran after you both, he looked dead on his feet when he got to you two, gasping for air "Please at least take these funds, these bags hold 800 silver pieces each. Not all of us think that the Shield Hero is a bad person and the future depends on your success please take these funds!" What integrity, you were impressed both by the bribe and by the earnestness so you accepted, besides as nice as Motoyasu seems to be, he can't work with you.
With money in hand, we went to go recruit some mercenaries after some directions from the Priest, who you learned was named Leonard.
You and Motoyasu went to:
[X] A very run down bar-like place for dirt poor adventurers
[X] A professional looking building, with clerks and offices.
[X] You started a recruitment stand somewhere for interested commonfolk
[X] You decided to go it alone for now
If you're wondering what the other options would've had, the Red Option would've unexpectedly let Itsuki help you in fighting against 'The Man', you'd have to escape and you'd both be wanted criminals. The fighting them with words option would have been the 'Follow Naofumi's path' option and due to your personality and intelligence scores, wouldn't have ended that well. Luckily for you, turning the other cheek was the correct option to get out mostly unscathed politically and gain you your first active ally.
Most of the court still dislikes you, but a minority is on your side. The Heroes collectively have a good opinion of you, Motoyasu thinks of you highly and will defend you for better or worse, Ren thinks your life is tragic and it made him wake up to reality, Itsuki thinks you suffered a great injustice but is way too messed up in the head for you to get a good read on beyond that. Aultcray is actually a lot more annoyed at his own court than at you at this moment, he's also a bit upset at himself.
I'll be posting another informational threadmark for the Shield Powers and Inventory soon.
You clamp down on the urge to settle things without words, your fists can only go so far after all and the Prime Minister didn't raise a barbarian. Despite the insult you took it with a smile, and you silently revel in how your lack of reaction bothers the king. You feel actually a little bit giddy, as Aultcray is going to lose this bout without you having to do anything at all.
"Your Majesty you've forgotten someone!" Motoyasu, you can tell just by looking at him is guilty from his reaction earlier and feels bad just by looking at you and that's perfect. This small petty display has already driven a confrontation between him and the king. "Ah, yes... The Shield Hero... Please tell us your name." The way he said Shield Hero was with a clear disdain that even Motoyasu could pick up, leaving him visibly confused he looked ready to say something about it before the Sword Hero stopped him. "Sakura Yukihime, fourteen. I was a soldier."
You hear a startled gasp come from Motoyasu, even the seemingly aloof Ren looked appalled... Itsuki is a mess to get a read on, and you'll just leave that at that. You've decided to let go of your grudge against Motoyasu for now for being so helpful. You don't really understand why they reacted that way, it was pretty normal where you were from. This was just more evidence that the other Heroes came from somewhere else entirely. The mood in the room has shifted, you have gained more respect from the court officials who as a whole look a lot less sure about you then a few minutes ago thanks to the Spear Hero.
Aultcray seems to realize he fucked up too, signaling the Priest from earlier to continue for him, "U-uh if everyone can confirm their statuses please!", with Ren helpfully chipping in that it was the 'Icon' (whatever that means, you assume he's referring to the little box) at the edge of our vision. He looked ready to comment on something, but disregarded it with a thoughtful frown.
You looked at it.
Sakura Yukihime (Yukihime Sakura) - Shield Hero Lvl 8
Equipment: Small Shield (Legendary Weapon)
Status Condition:
Nicotine Withdrawal
Malnutrition
A vague info graphic of your strengths and weaknesses were also there, along with various lists you don't have anything in aside from the Small Shield. You endeavored to keep the fact that you were level 8 a secret after hearing the disappointed groan from Motoyasu from starting at lvl 1. It's probably because you've killed people before that gave you your assigned level, you gave an amused self depreciating snort at your complete lack of noncombat skill. You need to get a hobby.
So far you think that the Shield is useful so far, being able to accurately see your health conditions on demand is useful enough on its own. Motoyasu came over to get your attention looking a bit apprehensive, "Er, it's too bad you have the Shield class you know, it's the-" he was interrupted before he could finish, "You may enter now." Man, Aultcray really wants you all out of his hair huh. A bunch of assorted medieval looking folk entered the big ass doors you were sure was highly inefficient. "They are volunteers to join the Four Legendary Heroes on their journey to save the world" Priest says, feeling much more confident you think amused "The stronger you get, the better your legendary weapon becomes however the legendary weapons either do not work in close proximity or stunt their growth so we prepared for you to set up parties before your arrival."
It was highly amusing to see that they already knew which one they wanted to go work for, like it couldn't be any more blatant. Aultcray seems to realize this too and raises his hands to rub the sides of his temples at the mistakes this was costing him, he looked contemplative for a moment before a court official with a stupid looking mustache crowed out "Ha! Looks like you aren't that popular Shield Demon-", "What the fuck is wrong with all of you? You guys all seem to have been against the Shield Hero the entire time!" Motoyasu finally blew up, you were honestly quite surprised but you suppose it must look really bad to him. A young girl being preyed upon and bullied by a fat cat aristocracy, you imagine that it was an easy decision for him to come to your defense. "Motoyasu's right, the lack of respect you've shown the Shield Hero is absurd." Itsuki was a surprising addition to your defense, Ren merely nodded his head in solidarity.
Seeing your fellow heroes defend you was pretty surreal nobody has really done that before. Motoyasu unexpectedly grabbed your hand and started leading you like you were a small child "We'll pick out our own party members without your interference!" You were shocked, what the fuck. You appreciated the sentiment you really did, but you weren't a little kid you know. By the time you shook yourself out of your stupor you were nearly out of the castle, and you rudely yanked your hand back. "I could've taken care of myself you know... But thanks anyway Motoyasu", "Ah, uh, no problem Yukihime seeing them bully you like that, I just acted without thinking!" Motoyasu looked properly abashed so you wont hold too much of a grudge at him treating you like a small child, but it was nice, it sorta reminded you of how your father was when he was alive. "W-wait, WAIT!" the Priest ran after you both, he looked dead on his feet when he got to you two, gasping for air "Please at least take these funds, these bags hold 800 silver pieces each. Not all of us think that the Shield Hero is a bad person and the future depends on your success please take these funds!" What integrity, you were impressed both by the bribe and by the earnestness so you accepted, besides as nice as Motoyasu seems to be, he can't work with you.
With money in hand, we went to go recruit some mercenaries after some directions from the Priest, who you learned was named Leonard.
You and Motoyasu went to:
[X] A very run down bar-like place for dirt poor adventurers
[X] A professional looking building, with clerks and offices.
[X] You started a recruitment stand somewhere for interested commonfolk
[X] You decided to go it alone for now
If you're wondering what the other options would've had, the Red Option would've unexpectedly let Itsuki help you in fighting against 'The Man', you'd have to escape and you'd both be wanted criminals. The fighting them with words option would have been the 'Follow Naofumi's path' option and due to your personality and intelligence scores, wouldn't have ended that well. Luckily for you, turning the other cheek was the correct option to get out mostly unscathed politically and gain you your first active ally.
Most of the court still dislikes you, but a minority is on your side. The Heroes collectively have a good opinion of you, Motoyasu thinks of you highly and will defend you for better or worse, Ren thinks your life is tragic and it made him wake up to reality, Itsuki thinks you suffered a great injustice but is way too messed up in the head for you to get a good read on beyond that. Aultcray is actually a lot more annoyed at his own court than at you at this moment, he's also a bit upset at himself.
I'll be posting another informational threadmark for the Shield Powers and Inventory soon.
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Macros
omnisciently vague councilman
- Location
- Dirac Sea
? Is it normal that he seems to know something about this already? I was under the impression everyone got summoned at the same time. Are we actually the last one to arrive?
Sword of Mars
Magical Girl Aficionado
- Location
- Canada
The change in the manga here, is that everyone else experienced this world as a videogame before.
They were gonna talk about it here too, then you brought up that you were a child soldier and killed the mood so none of the other heroes felt like talking about videogames now that the conversation was serious. It's what Ren was hesitating about when he brought up the icon.
- Location
- Florida
[X] You started a recruitment stand somewhere for interested commonfolk
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