Now I'm wondering if we should preemptively lock up Andrew and Jonathan, just to be sure. Dark Willow is NOT an arc I'd like to replicate.
 
OK how? Who is going to keep an eye on her so she doesn't rat some more people in order to escape? We can't just keep breaking her jaw to make sure she can't cast the spell and we don't have a jail capable of keeping her under control.
Assuming magic rehab Willow went to is not an option, and local rehab services cannot be adapted for the purpose, and Willow and others cannot come up with some means of denying Amy magic while her therapy goes on (Because yes, at the core of it, Amy needs therapy, not punishment)... Where would she escape to? What for?
 
It's hardly a fair defense to say 'it's canon' and then right after that admit that those events wont always be accurate. Are we supposed to metagame those events or not?

I mean, it was a "Metavote". A certain amount of metagaming there could be implied by the word. Amy was something of an unknown variable for you, as you'd never actually seen her onscreen until then (this lack of narrative focus was something that came about from earlier choices), so I think it's fair to at least expect putting her in the spotlight for such an important vote was a risky proposition.

On the other hand, it was very out of left field in a IC sense. I admit that my style is such that sometimes it will just be difficult to make optimal decisions (and sometimes, 'optimal' decisions might not even exist); I think that fits a setting where canonically shit is hard, mistakes get made a lot, and so on.
 
I mean, it was a "Metavote". A certain amount of metagaming there could be implied by the word

That's... sorta fair. At the same time I have to wonder, how much metagaming is allowed? If we remember something about canon, can we stunt it in? Like if we had remembered about Amy then could we have had put as a write in subchoice of choosing her to be her realizing what she had done was wrong, confessing, and using her connection to Rack to help get Buffy's mom back, would that be ok? Is there any 'metagaming line' that we can't cross with such a vote?
 
That's... sorta fair. At the same time I have to wonder, how much metagaming is allowed? If we remember something about canon, can we stunt it in? Like if we had remembered about Amy then could we have had put as a write in subchoice of choosing her to be her realizing what she had done was wrong, confessing, and using her connection to Rack to help get Buffy's mom back, would that be ok? Is there any 'metagaming line' that we can't cross with such a vote?

This isn't a quest with "strong stunts". You can't forcibly stunt a character that isn't Buffy into doing something they don't want to do, nor can you stunt Buffy into doing something she doesn't want to do (though you have a bit more latitude with her). Stunts are better thought of as techniques which help characters accomplish objectives they already had than driving forces in their personalities. If you had tried to stunt Amy into confessing, I would've advised you that contingent on her actually being a traitor, it wouldn't work.

What would work is stunting another character chosen by the vote into figuring her out by some reasonable means (assuming she was a traitor in the first place, of course), translating meta-knowledge into real in game knowledge. Like, you can metagame all you want, but metagaming gives you extra knowledge, not extra control.
 
S3.5E4: The Triumvirate V
[X] At the last second, Buffy pulled the blow, but the crack of Amy's broken jaw still rang out across the empty street.

Not only was Amy's spell interrupted, but she was knocked backwards a little by the force of the blow. Losing her footing, she slipped down the last few steps in front of City Hall and ended up prone on the sidewalk.

Despite her earlier explosion, Buffy was speechless. Giving Amy a good smack had drained some of the outrage she'd felt, replacing it with mere annoyance and frustration. Andrew looked on at the scene he'd wrought a little stunned; maybe he'd just expected Amy to meekly surrender.

Willow had enough to say for everyone though. "Amy, you tremendous bitch. I work night after night, for months, trying to uncurse you. I bring you onboard, I vouch for you, despite your shitty past decisions and your psycho mom."

"She's done something like this before?" Andrew asked, surprised. "And you weren't worried about her track record?"

Willow made a face, probably remembering the love spell incident, but didn't respond directly to Andrew and continued to dress down Amy. "We've been friends since kindergarten! And you were going to what? Cripple Buffy and set the rest of us up to die too, because you didn't feel safe, with practically everyone who matters left in town on your side? Because you wanted to get high? We were already paying you enough, you could've just bought some freakin' drugs!"

Amy just moaned piteously on the ground, and Buffy sighed, walking down to … secure her? She roughly picked her up by the shoulder, but didn't really have any idea what to do next. "Will, is there any way we can turn off her heebie-jeebies? I'm not sure what part of her I'm supposed to grab."

Willow was a little flummoxed by the question and lost momentum in her tirade, but Anya's voice answered it from up by the door. "Gag and blindfold are standard." She and Cynthia had appeared, divested of kittens and drawn by the commotion. "You probably want to secure her hands somehow too, and it looks like you've already applied the disorienting injury. What'd she go and do?"

"She betrayed our cause to Rack for power and thrills, tempting our leader with a foul trap," Andrew supplied, returning to his usual slightly annoying demeanor.

Cynthia walked up to Amy, still sort of awkwardly being restrained by Buffy, and expertly employed a couple big handkerchiefs as the gag and blindfold Anya had suggested. Amy let out another pained screech and struggled upon being gagged, but as usual, Cynthia was a consummate professional and it failed to even throw her off the task.

"So," Anya continued conversationally. "How are we going to do the interrogation? Maybe just start her off with a good round of torture? I may not be the demon I used to be, but Amy seems like a fingers kind of girl. You shouldn't actually do the pinky first though, because-"

"I don't think any torturing will be needed," Buffy said as she frogmarched Amy up the steps. "Probably."

Willow procured another handkerchief from Cynthia and gingerly picked up the blood compass from where Buffy had dropped it on the steps. "Maybe we could do just one finger?" she asked.

Buffy was once again a little surprised by the uncharted depths of Willow Rosenberg, but that was hardly a concern right now. "I think Amy will be very willing to share everything she knows with us, won't you Amy?"

Amy managed to make an affirmative-sounding whine through the gag, and the whole group moved back inside the building and up towards the conference room. Once they got there, Buffy sat Amy down in a seat and let her hands go, but still hovered threateningly behind her. Ever helpful, Cynthia provided paper and pencil, and the rest of the group seated themselves or stood nearby to get a better look.

Buffy started the interrogation. "Where'd you get this thing? Did you make it yourself, or was it Rack?"

"Rack," Amy wrote in unsteady writing.

She continued, "When?"

"Today. My house."

Buffy was hopeful for a second, though she knew it was a longshot, "Is he going to meet you again? Do you know how to find his base?"

"Not sure. Calls first. He wouldn't tell."

Buffy groaned frustratedly, and Willow picked up the line of questioning, "Is the tracking part of the compass real? Would it lead us to his hideout if we found a safe way to use it?"

Amy paused for a second, and sensing she was thinking about it a little too hard, Buffy tightened her grip on her shoulder for a second. Amy squeaked, dropping her pencil, and then when she picked it up she wrote "No. Trap." Quailing under the hostile glares from the room, she continued, "Not kill. Portal."

"Of course she'd say it wasn't a lethal trap now, to curry mercy," Anya commented skeptically, but Willow disagreed.

"No, I think that makes sense. I mean, he moves places around, it's probably one of his specialties." Willow considered for a minute. "We already thought that's why he wanted the bones, they're good for portals."

Buffy narrowed her eyes, remembering Amy's avaricious look at some of their ingredient haul earlier that week, "Amy, did you already steal some bones? Anything else? Did he make the portal with them?"

Amy paused again, but not for as long, and looking defeated, she wrote, "Yes. Not much. Other stuff too."

This sent Willow into a new spiral of outrage, and the next few minutes were spent with her and Andrew getting a full accounting of the stolen goods. Apparently it wasn't that much compared to their total supply, but the additional betrayal still stung. They were going to have to start paying more attention to inventory.

They continued like that for a while, and it was apparent that there wasn't really anything but bad news. Amy had given Rack all their secrets (at least the ones she knew about), and she didn't really know any of his in return. He'd promised her some power after Buffy was gone and the town was taken over, but at this point it was clear that was the ultimate goal of their enemies anyway.

Buffy was wracking her brain trying to think of more things to ask when Xander's voice came up on her radio and surprised the room. "Hi Buffy, sorry that took so long, but things are more stable now."

She'd totally forgotten about Xander, and was a little surprised. She picked up the radio and said, "What happened? What did you find?"

"Well, the Yeti sort of invaded the Bronze and was causing some chaos, but she didn't hurt anyone, and I've got her settled down." Everyone at the table took some time to process the absurdity of the statement, but Anya was the first one to respond. She jumped up, crawling over the table and grabbing the radio out of Buffy's hands. "Wait, the Yeti's a girl? How do you know the Yeti's a girl?"

Xander's voice responded, a little panicked by Anya's sudden intrusion, "I mean, it's kind of obvious? Not that I was looking, but she's fifteen feet tall? She can barely fit in here, I have no idea how she even got inside."

"Well, make sure you stay that way," she said. "Not looking. Yeti women are known for being quite amorous. I've cursed four different men and two women for dalliances with Yetis in my time."

"I, um." Xander stumbled over his words. "She has been kind of touchy."

"I'm coming right away!" Anya declared, giving the radio back to Buffy and getting off the table. "We obviously need to get this Yeti thing sorted out."

Buffy didn't think the situation with Amy was going anywhere fast, and figured Willow, Andrew, and Cynthia could keep her under control pretty easily in this state. "I'll come over too Xander, just in case things escalate."

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The Bronze was surprisingly calm when they arrived, and the damage was minimal. Buffy had been expecting something like what she'd seen at the Sunnydale Lodge; destroyed walls and a trashed interior. Instead, the building itself was completely intact, and there were only a few broken tables and chairs, as well as a couple dented kegs of beer lying around. There was no Yeti to be seen, and Xander was standing in an open area by the corner, looking very confused.

"Xander!" Anya said, running over to him. "You haven't betrayed me for some Yeti trollop have you? Where is she?"

"There was no betrayal of any kind, unless you count something that bore a suspicious resemblance to pattycake. As for where she is, you have as good an idea as I do," he said.

Anya frowned and inspected Xander's hands worriedly, unreassured by Xander's explanation. "Ugh, she left some hair on your shirt!" She started to pick it off.

"How did she even get in? Or out?" Buffy asked. "Is she smaller than we expected? Does she squeeze?"

"Well the thing is, I'm not really sure," Xander said. "People waved me in here when I was patrolling because the Yeti was here already and making a commotion." He tried to gesture at the broken furniture, but Anya wouldn't let go of his arms so it was kind of aborted. "I kind of recognized the signs and made sure they got her a few drinks, and that seemed to calm her down a bit. We hung out for a little while and then she just … went away?"

"You hung out?" Anya asked. "Do you play pattycake with every girl you hang out with?"

"Hey!" Xander said. "She was sort of grabbing at the waiter and I got in between and kind of pushed at her hands to show her to stop. It sort of just happened after that. There weren't really any great ways for us to communicate."

Buffy was more interested in this appearing and disappearing thing. "You seem pretty confused about how she left, Xander. Did she like, just pop out?"

"Maybe?" Xander ventured. "It wasn't really a pop. More of an extended what. Trying to remember it feels like thinking about those math problems Willow used to try to teach me." He shook his head, as if trying to clear it. "So any progress on your end?"

"Negative progress," Buffy grumped. "Amy was a traitor, or a magical drug addict or something. We caught her with a booby trap but she already fed Rack a bunch of information."

Xander's eyes went wide. "Wow, Amy? I never would've expected. I mean, she did learn a whole lot of magic really quickly last year and didn't seem to have all that much in the way of a moral compass, so maybe I should've? Willow must've been devastated, they used to be really close."

"That's one way to put it. She mostly seemed to be swapping notes with Anya on which of her fingers to break first," Buffy said. "But umm, inside I'm sure she was very morose and sad."

"I still think we should've tortured her a bit," Anya complained. "Sometimes you just need to make an example of someone, especially when you're the new boss."

Xander gave his girlfriend a troubled look and changed the subject, "So Rack knows we're not all in with the whole ransom paying thing."

Buffy looked down. "Yeah. I don't think he's the kind of guy that's going to be put off much by that, but I don't know what we're going to do. Nobody's found any good leads, this jerk is really good at hiding."

"We'll figure something out Buffy," Xander said. "We always do."

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Despite Xander's optimism, things didn't improve as the day wore on. Andrew wasn't comfortable summoning any more demons, though his earlier efforts had also confirmed Rack's specialty with teleportation and portals. He and Jonathan were seeing if they could work out some kind of dimensional anchor to help keep Buffy grounded, but they were worried it might not play well with the spell on the mansion and result in her getting left behind at a bad moment.

Willow wasn't helping them right now, because it turned out that she'd just fallen asleep on her feet not long after Buffy had left for the Bronze. She'd probably worked all through the night, and they were just letting her sleep for now. Buffy wanted her at her best for whatever might be happening tonight anyway.

Giles hadn't been able to get much of anything out of his contacts, though he had managed to more narrowly classify Teeth; he was a Carchar; despite their intimidating appearances they weren't exceptional at combat, or much of anything besides being amphibious really. They didn't have notable weaknesses, but since he was hardly stronger than the average vampire, Buffy wouldn't need any if it came down to a fight with him.

Buffy had held out some hope for Harmony's plan, but the fledgling had been found out and limped back to City Hall (buzzing in at the underground entrance) a few hours before sunset. Apparently there was at least one casualty of the graduation battle that hadn't come over to Buffy's side, and he'd outed Harmony when he recognized her nosing around. She proudly claimed to have dusted him for his trouble, but the damage was done, and she hadn't found out anything interesting.

Chief Matt Waters had been very cooperative, especially considering the embattled state of the police force right now, but hadn't come up with much. There were no likely fingerprints at Buffy's house, and their APB out on both Joyce Summers and 'Rack' hadn't gotten any results either. He still had uniforms driving around searching, and had even offered more rapid transportation if they needed it, but he confirmed that the mansion Willy had told Buffy about was gone from its usual location and couldn't be found.

Eventually, the hour got late, and despite doing some patrolling of her own in between Buffy had ended up back at City Hall. She figured that Rack would guess where she was again, and she didn't want anyone else handling the negotiation. Sure enough, about 24 hours after Joyce had been kidnapped, Cynthia got the call, and Buffy took it in the conference room, with the Scoobies all on hand (and awake) for backup. She put him on speaker, but they'd agreed in advance she'd handle the actual talking herself.

"So, I gather you've been a busy little slip of a mayor today," Rack said, opening the call.

"I do try to make sure my constituents get my best," Buffy replied. "Are you calling to whine that your pet rat got caught, or are we going to do this deal?"

"Oh, I'm not too sore about that," Rack said, not missing a beat. "You tried to betray me, I tried to trick you, as far as I'm concerned, it was an amusing interlude and we can call it all water under the bridge. I already know you were smart enough to gather up what I asked for, so let's just do the trade tonight and be out of each others' hair."

Giles' face was stony at that. She knew he was taking things pretty hard, but she wasn't sure if he was more angry at Rack or afraid for Joyce. He'd been avoidy about it, but she had to think with her head now, regardless.

"How do I know this isn't just another trap?" Buffy said. "Sunnydale as a whole is way more valuable than this ransom you're chasing, and your goal from the start has probably been to get rid of me so your lame 'Triumvirate' could take over."

"Well, that's just the reason I don't think I'm going to bother pulling anything," Rack replied. "I'm pretty good at what I do, but I've heard enough about what you're like in a straight fight that I don't expect to survive one if it ever happens. I'm running out of tricks, and while I think I've still got enough left to defend myself with, I'm not exactly a big risk taker. At this point I'd rather cut my winnings and take a nice ransom to Europe." He paused there, but before Buffy said anything, he continued, "On the other hand, that means if you want to keep this pissing match going, people you actually care about start getting hurt. No messing around this time."

Willow rolled her eyes hearing that, but it made a certain amount of sense. Buffy tried to fish for more information. "What about that buddy of yours, Shark-guy? He doesn't seem like he'd want to bail just like that. And where's Faith? I can't have her just floating around, ready to be a pain in my ass again."

"I'm afraid I can't help you with Faith," he laughed. "We lost track of her ourselves!"

"What?" Buffy asked. "Did she wake up?" She saw shock fly over the faces of everyone at the table, but they managed to restrain themselves. Buffy really did think it was better if they could present a unified front instead of the usual peanut gallery effect her group had.

"Maybe, but I think some vamps still loyal to Wilkins might've made off with her after Digby bit the dust instead," Rack said. "To be honest, neither of us really had any idea what we wanted to do with her anyway, our most hilarious third was kind of obsessed with the girl."

Buffy sighed. Another problem to deal with, no matter how this turned out. "Fine then, what about the shark?"

"Well, you're right that he probably wouldn't be so happy about taking the ransom and running." Rack was quiet for a while, but she could still hear his breath on the line. "I'll tell you what. I'll throw him in, free of charge with your mom, just to prove there's no hard feelings. You can ransom him off yourself, use him as an example, whatever suits your fancy. I won't have to pay him, or have him breathing down my neck about breaking the deal we had. Helps us both."

More backstabbing from Rack. She wasn't surprised, but she wasn't convinced either. "So you say you want to deal? Where do we deal? Gonna tell me where that mansion of yours is?"

"Ha! No way. Bring the ransom to Kingman's Bluff in one hour, alone, and I'll make sure you get your mom back in one piece. I'll fool that idiot gangster into being there too, I don't imagine you'd need any backup to handle the likes of him anyway." Rack hung up, and the dial tone washed over the room.

Buffy was quiet now. She wanted to hear reactions from the group.

Xander piped in first, "Well, call me crazy, but I think he's a no-good liar and we can't trust him."

"Duh," Willow agreed. "He's had secret agendas and resources this whole time. This could just be the next phase of his evil plan."

"If he is telling the truth," Giles looked pained. "It would solve our immediate problems."

"Do you think he could be?" Buffy asked.

"He's a coward at heart," Giles stated flatly. "The type of magic a sorcerer uses often reflects their character. I think Rack did this because he saw an opportunity to do it relatively easily, but someone with magic like his likes to run, they like to hide. One of his allies is already dead, so it makes sense for him to turn on the other."

"I think maybe we have to play it that way?" Oz said. "We're sort of out of time."

Willow looked a little betrayed; Buffy could tell that despite being the last kidnapping victim, she was the most gung-ho on the warpath. Oz had a point though; they'd tried to look for other angles and they hadn't found any they could use.

Vote: Does Buffy try to do the trade, or do the Scoobies try another plan?

[] Buffy brings the ransom alone, and tries to do the trade legit. She can't risk her mom without anything solid, and at least two out of three of the perpetrators will suffer for their crimes.

[] Write in a plan (try to beat Rack)

Write ins will be organized by plan; if you make a plan, name it in the top level vote and then include details and stunts. Others that like your plan can vote for it. A specific plan must defeat the legit ransom option to be chosen; the plans don't get to count votes together natively. You can still approval vote though.
 
[X] Buffy brings the ransom alone, and tries to do the trade legit. She can't risk her mom without anything solid, and at least two out of three of the perpetrators will suffer for their crimes.
-[X] Have everyone on high alert in case of any last second back stabs or contingencies.

I've gotta go with this. We've burnt out a mole, and squeezed out some concessions. If Rack is the semi-smart rat he appears to be then he will know not to come back. That should at least soften the blow.
 
[X] Buffy brings the ransom alone, and tries to do the trade legit. She can't risk her mom without anything solid, and at least two out of three of the perpetrators will suffer for their crimes.
-[X] Have everyone on high alert in case of any last second back stabs or contingencies.
 
I cant think of a plan right this moment, but trying to legit deal with him is madness from strategic viewpoint. We need to at least be able to intercept him later and destroy him then. So far, my thoughts are:
1) Put some manner of tracking, both technological and (techno)magical into the money and/or bones, so we could then track him
2) Quickly track the shark, tell him about betrayal, have him deal with Rack
3) Coat money and bones with a binary contact poison. Rack will likely touch both, and will die. Not sure about how we'll recover them, though. Or where to get the poison.
4) I am guessing Yeti is something like Discworld Yeti, ie has time-space magic. Contact her somehow, get her help?
5) Get help from Anyanka's vengeance demon friends. Patron of children might work - we are not past age of majority yet, I believe. If we are, Amy still counts as being abused by Rack, and there are probably other children. Or see if they'll go for straight up payment.

I am really not sure what to do, and probably can't work out a viable plan by myself, but straight up giving up is not an option here.
 
I feel like we got lucky with picking Amy and it leading to finding out that the Rat was literally a Rat. Would never have guessed myself. That means a spy is removed and Rack can't know how we changed our plans after his failed assassination attempt.
Logically, don't know about narratively tho, if we hadn't picked Amy he would have known our plan and prepped accordingly.

Tho I like Amy like I like Harmony. Tho before that it was cause I wanted an animagus on the team as now its curiosity to what her character really is. She does feel more of a flight risk than Harmony, well, harmony feels very loyal actually, too loyal, like unconditionally so. Have yet to see her act treacherously.
Harmony, depending on how much stock she has in the slayer slaying all her foes, it feels absolute and inevitable. The slaying of the dragon was impressive, don't recall if she was there in person.
 
@DeAnno questions on possible plans:
1) Do we have any contact poison? Ideally a binary one
2) Do we have any idea on how to contact the shark guy?
3) Does Anya think that any of her vengeance demon buddies might be helpful here? For a price, obviously
 
[X] Buffy brings the ransom alone, and tries to do the trade legit. She can't risk her mom without anything solid, and at least two out of three of the perpetrators will suffer for their crimes.
-[X] Have everyone on high alert in case of any last second back stabs or contingencies.
 
1) Do we have any contact poison? Ideally a binary one

Cynthia says the mayor didn't have any of that on hand. The closest thing you have is some Killer of the Dead leftover from when he got it for Faith's attack on Angel (Willow found it amongst his office stores); you know that both needs to get into the bloodstream and might not work on Shark and/or Rack too well.

2) Do we have any idea on how to contact the shark guy?

If you call Willy, he can maybe call around and get you a phone number, even though he probably doesn't have one himself (he could've maybe gotten one for you earlier, but he didn't think you were in much of a talking mood.) The Scoobies think it's about a coin flip if it would work fast enough and maybe also possible Rack would hear about it somehow, so it's a risky but feasible action.

3) Does Anya think that any of her vengeance demon buddies might be helpful here? For a price, obviously

Anya thinks it's unlikely any Vengeance Demon except Halfrek would listen to her now. Halfrek wouldn't consider Buffy a child, but might consider Amy one. Anya isn't sure if she'd be more angry at Buffy or Rack about what happened to her though, so it'd be unpredictable; none of it really falls into the realm of "neglect". Bribes of some sort might smooth that over a little but they would be more in the form of favors than anything, and those favors might be unpalatable.
 
Cynthia says the mayor didn't have any of that on hand. The closest thing you have is some Killer of the Dead leftover from when he got it for Faith's attack on Angel (Willow found it amongst his office stores); you know that both needs to get into the bloodstream and might not work on Shark and/or Rack too well.
What about aspect of the demon blood? The telepathy inducing one, or something similar? Can we get that on short notice?
If you call Willy, he can maybe call around and get you a phone number, even though he probably doesn't have one himself (he could've maybe gotten one for you earlier, but he didn't think you were in much of a talking mood.) The Scoobies think it's about a coin flip if it would work fast enough and maybe also possible Rack would hear about it somehow, so it's a risky but feasible action.
Ok, so possibly viable.
Anya thinks it's unlikely any Vengeance Demon except Halfrek would listen to her now. Halfrek wouldn't consider Buffy a child, but might consider Amy one. Anya isn't sure if she'd be more angry at Buffy or Rack about what happened to her though, so it'd be unpredictable; none of it really falls into the realm of "neglect". Bribes of some sort might smooth that over a little but they would be more in the form of favors than anything, and those favors might be unpalatable.
Can we get identities of at least some other of Rack's clients (out of Amy, or Mayor's old records which he might have kept)? If there are any children among them, this could tip Halfrek towards our side. I can see Halfrek being angry about Buffy's immediate actions, but Rack's are far worse, long term and less justified. We could potentially take that chance.
 
What about aspect of the demon blood? The telepathy inducing one, or something similar? Can we get that on short notice?

None left, and definitely not on short notice (they don't exactly sell it at the corner store.) If you'd tried to save some it would probably have gone bad by now, it's a natural substance, not a concoction.

Can we get identities of at least some other of Rack's clients (out of Amy, or Mayor's old records which he might have kept)? If there are any children among them, this could tip Halfrek towards our side. I can see Halfrek being angry about Buffy's immediate actions, but Rack's are far worse, long term and less justified. We could potentially take that chance.

Amy can give you some street names and descriptions of a few younger people she remembers seeing there, and you have access to the school records by year so you could maybe cross-reference them. Kind of a big job though; even assuming you did some of the legwork retroactively you would only find a couple. You would probably have to call Hallie down, draw her attention to Rack, and see what sorts of conclusions she reached on her own.

Also, be mindful that AT BEST, it would be Amy making the actual wish.
 
[X] Buffy brings the ransom alone, and tries to do the trade legit. She can't risk her mom without anything solid, and at least two out of three of the perpetrators will suffer for their crimes.
-[X] Have everyone on high alert in case of any last second back stabs or contingencies.
 
I would not want to summon Halfrek up under any circumstances. We would not get to pick the wish that gets made. that would be entirely on Amy. Nothing would keep her from making a totally different wish in the moment that could screw everything up.
 
I feel like Rack will definitely prepare a counter attack, after all he has already found out that we decided to not honor the deal. How much would catching his rat truly change his mind?
Adhoc vote count started by Edifier on Apr 7, 2019 at 2:58 AM, finished with 20 posts and 7 votes.

  • [X] Buffy brings the ransom alone, and tries to do the trade legit. She can't risk her mom without anything solid, and at least two out of three of the perpetrators will suffer for their crimes.
    -[X] Have everyone on high alert in case of any last second back stabs or contingencies.
    [X] Buffy brings the ransom alone, and tries to do the trade legit. She can't risk her mom without anything solid, and at least two out of three of the perpetrators will suffer for their crimes.
 
Can we cut off Rack' retreat? Stick a Charm of Anti-magic in the bones/money, do the trade as normal, then take him apart when he can't flee.
 
[X] Buffy brings the ransom alone, and tries to do the trade legit. She can't risk her mom without anything solid, and at least two out of three of the perpetrators will suffer for their crimes.
 
Can we cut off Rack' retreat? Stick a Charm of Anti-magic in the bones/money, do the trade as normal, then take him apart when he can't flee.

You don't have any general-purpose AMF, but as mentioned in the update, Andrew and Jonathan are working on an improvised dimensional anchor. It would only be a one-shot sort of thing though, and it's using some rare components. Their plan was to give it to Buffy so she could have one get-out-of-force-portal-free, and that defensive usage would be part of the prep with the currently winning stunt.

If you wanted, you could try to do something different and more aggressive with it, but the Scoobies also think it's unlikely Rack will want to expose himself to face-punching, so he might be acting remotely somehow.
 
Okay. I say call his bluff. Rack isn't actually going to kill Joyce, she's worth more to him alive then she is dead. Not only does he not get anything if she dies, he knows we'll chase him into the ends of the world. A coward like him has no interest in this kind of thing. Stall for time.
 
Amy can give you some street names and descriptions of a few younger people she remembers seeing there, and you have access to the school records by year so you could maybe cross-reference them. Kind of a big job though; even assuming you did some of the legwork retroactively you would only find a couple. You would probably have to call Hallie down, draw her attention to Rack, and see what sorts of conclusions she reached on her own.

Also, be mindful that AT BEST, it would be Amy making the actual wish.
Well, we'll have to do that afterwards, then, but we'll have to do it. It presents too much of a danger otherwise.

Do we at least have the numbers for the money written down? Willow could probably track their use later, if nothing else.
 
Do we at least have the numbers for the money written down? Willow could probably track their use later, if nothing else.

Cynthia could have got sequential or non-sequential, but sequential has a bit of risk of spoiling the deal. Not enough that you couldn't stunt it onto cooperating though; after all, Rack didn't ask for non-sequential. If you got sequential, you can know all the numbers. If you got non-sequential, you can know a large sample of bills in it (about 5%). I'm going to assume cooperate goes with non-sequential unless sequential is stunted in by a few people supporting it. Obviously a plan can state either.

EDIT: Lock in 12 hours, though if someone makes a serious plan I may extend it a bit to let it have a chance to compete.
 
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[X] Buffy brings the ransom alone, and tries to do the trade legit. She can't risk her mom without anything solid, and at least two out of three of the perpetrators will suffer for their crimes.
-[X] Have everyone on high alert in case of any last second back stabs or contingencies.

We can mount the shark head by willy's to remind everyone that most people that mess with buffy die.
 
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