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The Silmarillion Quest

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All of you people are terrible, except this guy:
Da Boyz said:
[X] The Fëanorians:

#YOLO #Kinslaying #FromMyPoVTheValarAreEvil
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This guy gets it!

[X] The Fëanorians:

As far as I'm concerned, Fëanor might as well be the protagonist for half of the Silmarillion.

And besides, who doesn't want to tell Morgoth (who we renamed personally) "Hello, I am Fëanáro Curufinwë. You killed my father, prepare to die!"
 
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Cerillian said:


All of you people are terrible, except this guy:

This guy gets it!

[X] The Fëanorians:

As far as I'm concerned, Fëanor might as well be the protagonist for half of the Silmarillion.

And besides, who doesn't want to tell Morgoth (who we renamed personally) "Hello, you killed my father, prepare to die!"
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Look, morgoth killed a lot of people's parents. I'm pretty sure the Edhil and the Khazad are the only ones who *can't* do that.
 
Meh, I just want to not play as a latecomer related to Turin.

The Feanorians wouldn't be too bad, they're at least grand and great.

And from a certain perspective, they could be called right to not like the Valar.

And smithing is a pretty big deal to me, and that's something Morgoth (Sauron) and Feanor have in spades.
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QTesseract said:
Feanor yes, but also Fingolfin and Earendil, and arguably , Maedhros & Fingon or Gil-Galad & Elendil.
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True, but Feanor was the architect of the whole thing.

Not to mention an incredibly underutilized character, between his personal prowess (even if it's less than Fingolfin as far as combat) and his obscene crafting general ability and crafting...man, I honestly would like to play as the Feanorians, just not sure if they could come up from the bottom at this point.
 
EVA-Saiyajin said:
True, but Feanor was the architect of the whole thing.

Not to mention an incredibly underutilized character, between his personal prowess (even if it's less than Fingolfin as far as combat) and his obscene crafting general ability and crafting...man, I honestly would like to play as the Feanorians, just not sure if they could come up from the bottom at this point.
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That's fair. It's not everyone who can go :
Then hate overcame Fëanor's fear, and he cursed Melkor and bade him be gone, saying: 'Get thee gone from my gate, thou jail-crow of Mandos!' And he shut the doors of his house in the face of the mightiest of all the dwellers in Eä.

Then Melkor departed in shame, for he was himself in peril
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I'm just fully aware that getting them to do anything remotely sane is going to be a gargantuan task, even with the aid of Maedhros, and also coincidentally a huge fan of andreth :V. Seriously the silmarillion has too many amazing characters.
 
Man is just not plain interesting to me. They're latecomers which is lame, one is tied to a terrible descendant, and they're just not grand or great.

The elves are. The shadow is. Even the dwarves were at least able to drive off Glaurung.
 
[X] The Fëanorians

Why not?

Punch fate in the dick, and show the world what the greatest elf and smith ever can do when not killed off in a one man charge.
 
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QTesseract said:
Feanor yes, but also Fingolfin and Earendil, and arguably , Maedhros & Fingon or Gil-Galad & Elendil.
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Fingolfin followed Feanor, though. It was his idea, and he sold his brothers on it.

Admittedly, he may have made some errors along the way, which cost him their loyalty, but whats a little stranding in the arctic between brother's anyway?

I'm not sure why you'd mention Earendil, though, he wasn't born until a couple centuries or millennia later.

Maedhros was there following Faenor, he only picked up leadership after Faenor died as I recall. Fingon led even later. Gil-Galad similialy does not rise to prominence for centuries. And Elendil isn't even born until the Second Age, and never faced Morgoth; he was Sauron's foe.
 
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Smith leaders can create Artifacts, weapons or items of power which give certain bonuses to the leaders who have them equipped. Artifacts have their own ranks and levels, and equipping leaders with Artifacts can make them more versatile and powerful.
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Yeah, this could be really awesome with Feanor's ability as a smith.
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A Silmarillion Quest, YES please!

Didn't read the book in years, have to read it now x)
I would have liked to play with The Sindar, trying to make better choices than Elu, but just for Melian, it would be worth it =D

But I really don't want to go with Men, so looking at the tally, I will vote :
[X] Durin's Folk
 
EVA-Saiyajin said:
Man is just not plain interesting to me. They're latecomers which is lame, one is tied to a terrible descendant, and they're just not grand or great.

The elves are. The shadow is. Even the dwarves were at least able to drive off Glaurung.
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Seriously? Turin killed Glaurung. Hurin withstood everything Morgoth could throw at him and came out on top, never once yeilding an inch. Andreth, who's mastery of lore matched Finrod, who reigned supreme on that score among the Noldor. Reminder that it's the house of Beor here:
Twelve men beside him still there went,
still faithful when all hope was spent.
Their names are yet in elven-song
remembered, though the years are long
since doughty Dagnir and Ragnor,
Radhruin, Dairuin and Gildor,
Gorlim Unhappy, and Urthel,
and Arthad and Hathaldir fell;
since the black shaft with venomed wound
took Belegund and Baragund,
the mighty sons of Bregolas;
since he whose doom and deeds surpass
all tales of Men was laid on bier,
fair Beren son of Barahir.
For these it was, the chosen men
of Bëor's house, who in the fen
of reedy Serech stood at bay
about King Finrod in the day
of his defeat, and with their swords
thus saved of all the Elven-lords
the fairest; and his love they earned.
And he escaping south, returned
to Nargothrond his mighty realm,
where still he wore his crowned helm;
but they to their northern homeland rode,
dauntless and few, and there abode
unconquered still, defying fate,
pursued by Morgoth's sleepless hate.
Such deeds of daring there they wrought
that soon the hunters that them sought
at rumor of their coming fled.
Though price was set upon each head
to match the weregild of a king,
no soldier could to Morgoth bring
news even of their hidden lair;
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without even getting into Beren, who's in a class of his own, or the half elven of the edain.
Cerillian said:
Fingolfin followed Feanor, though. It was his idea, and he sold his brothers on it.

Admittedly, he may have made some errors along the way, which cost him their loyalty, but whats a little stranding in the arctic between brother's anyway?

I'm not sure why you'd mention Earendil, though, he wasn't born until a couple centuries or millennia later.

Maedhros was there following Faenor, he only picked up leadership after Faenor died as I recall. Fingon led even later. Gil-Galad similialy does not rise to prominence for centuries. And Elendil isn't even born until the Second Age, and never faced Morgoth; he was Sauron's foe.
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Fingolfin didn't follow Feanor. Feanor didn't want him to come, and we see this in their later clashes.
But when they were landed, Maedhros the eldest of his sons, and on a time the friend of Fingon ere Morgoth's lies came between, spoke to Fëanor, saying: 'Now what ships and rowers will you spare to return, and whom shall they bear hither first? Fingon the valiant?'

Then Fëanor laughed as one fey, and he cried: 'None and none! What I have left behind I count now no loss; needless baggage on the road it has proved. Let those that cursed my name, curse me still, and whine their way back to the cages of the Valar! Let the ships burn!' Then Maedhros alone stood aside, but Fëanor caused fire to be set to the white ships of the Teleri. So in that place which was called Losgar at the outlet of the Firth of Drengist ended the fairest vessels that ever sailed the sea, in a great burning, bright and terrible. And Fingolfin and his people saw the light afar off, red beneath the clouds; and they knew that they were betrayed...

...they endured at last the terror of the Helcaraxë and the cruel hills of ice. Few of the deeds of the Noldor thereafter surpassed that desperate crossing in hardihood or woe. There Elenwë the wife of Turgon was lost, and many others perished also; and it was with a lessened host that Fingolfin set foot at last upon the Outer Lands. Small love for Fëanor or his sons had those that marched at last behind him, and blew their trumpets in Middle-earth at the first rising of the Moon.
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Earendil is part of the silmarillion too, and even more explicitly lead an army out of Paradise. Did you... forget the entire war of the wrath?

Fingon and Maedros got control at the same time, working together after the death of Nolofinwe. It was High King Fingon and Maedros who lead the biggest crusade of the entire war of the great jewels, to the battle of tears unnumbered.
 
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EVA-Saiyajin said:
Man is just not plain interesting to me. They're latecomers which is lame, one is tied to a terrible descendant, and they're just not grand or great.

The elves are. The shadow is. Even the dwarves were at least able to drive off Glaurung.
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To Men is given destiny grander than Fate and Doom itself. Men alone can break the bounds of fate and change the course of the Age. It was a Man who walked first in Angband and took the Silmaril burning from the Iron Crown where all others had failed. It was a Man who slew Glaurung the Great, first of the terrible worms to wake in the world. It was a Man that stood alone and unbroken against the horde of Morgoth when all others broke or fled.

It was a half-Man who sailed until the seas fell away and returned after lifetimes unnumbered to Valinor, and it is a half-Man who sails the skies with a Silmaril, the burning star of the West.

It is Men who dared challenge the Valar, Men and their little-kindred who three times brought down Sauron the Great, Men who stood against the Shadow when the elves had all but faded. It is Men alone who fell to Sauron's lies and became Kings of Undeath, with power to rival the Istari themselves. It is Men who can rise to the highest highs and sink to the lowest lows.

The elves were made grand, and can be nothing less and nothing more. Their destinies were written in the Music before the world awoke. Even mighty Melkor in his pride only works the grand design of Illuvatar in the end, who designed and orchestrated all things.

But to Men alone is given the Gift. Men...may choose. Men may change.

Just a note. ;)
 
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