- Location
- Portland
Thanks, I will probably make more when I get ideas. Maybe a gas gun?
Administrative Connection (Alt!Powers Tinker/Trump)
- Thread starter Night Sentinel
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It represents multiple transmitters. A single transmitter only can cover so much area.
Regarding using just the internet to just connect onto the camera.... it is certainly possible. Though, you'll miss those cameras that are isolated from the internet and make it far more traceable to those who look for it. As for those which is connected to the web, all Taylor needs is the unique IP which she can get from walking around on the area with her laptop or phone....
Now, that I think about it.
This is what happens when I make my update when I'm sleepy. Yeah. What you suggested is certainly possible. Rearranging your choices to reflect better clarity.
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Thats self-defeating. Phased transmitters are more expensive, but impossible to discover without wall penetrating radar, sonar or EM induction scanners, none of which are used.
However, if you can find one node, you can use that node to discover other nodes by signal strength and direction analysis(you need to be pretty near a node to distinguish it from general radio noise in a city though)...thats without a Tinker, though in town its just Squealer, Leet, Kid Win and Armsmaster with specialties that can be applied to reverse trace the network.
Phased is a total obscurity strategy, we spread more slowly, but its basically impossible to find unless you're specifically looking for it. And even then its quite a bit of work to search.
Regular transmitters basically bank on getting coverage up fast enough to outpace the random discovery.
As for why transmitters?
Untracable. If it goes across a normal network you can study it. Any network admin can tell you a lot about the traffic on their network, even if they can't read the contents.
Also the rather useful element that it can't be taken out short of a city-wide EMP like Behemoth or Shatterbird.
Ok everyone. I edited the choices and put a new one.
[ ] Nah! No need for a Transmitter!
You don't need a transmitter. Taylor would just use the internet to send the data to herself. This is certainly the most cost-efficient way to do it and it would get you instant city coverage but it also leaves you vulnerable to anyone who cares to look for network traffic.
[ ] Nah! No need for a Transmitter!
You don't need a transmitter. Taylor would just use the internet to send the data to herself. This is certainly the most cost-efficient way to do it and it would get you instant city coverage but it also leaves you vulnerable to anyone who cares to look for network traffic.
- Location
- Elsewhere
[X] Percentage Based
[X] Phase Stealth Transmitter
[X] Docks
[X] Phase Stealth Transmitter
[X] Docks
- Location
- United States
[X] Percentage Based
[X] Phase Stealth Transmitter
[X] Docks South
[X] Phase Stealth Transmitter
[X] Docks South
- Location
- Australia
[X] Percentage Based
better for everyone this way, we get paid for our performance, good or bad and they can't complain that we're ripping them off
Could we connect to the internet using a phased transmitter as a relay? home computer > transmitter> internet
It's a bit of the best of both worlds, stick the transmitter somewhere safe and then if someone does try to backtrack us we cut the connection between the transmitter and home, leaving them with only the transmitter.
Depending on where we put the transmitter we could also monitor it through a set of hidden cameras or something so that if someone does come looking for the transmitter we know who
better for everyone this way, we get paid for our performance, good or bad and they can't complain that we're ripping them off
Could we connect to the internet using a phased transmitter as a relay? home computer > transmitter> internet
It's a bit of the best of both worlds, stick the transmitter somewhere safe and then if someone does try to backtrack us we cut the connection between the transmitter and home, leaving them with only the transmitter.
Depending on where we put the transmitter we could also monitor it through a set of hidden cameras or something so that if someone does come looking for the transmitter we know who
In a normal transmitter setup once you discover one you can do signal strength and direction analysis to find our house directly. Them having to find a phased transmitter inside a wall first is still a very useful step, especially as they're not going to necessarily know that's what they're looking at as opposed to some other form of shenanigan.
Given our tinker specialty is actually networks not transmitters, I'd expect our ability to be untraceable over a network would actually be higher than with the transmitters just because our ability to do tinker bullshit is higher.
Spectrum
Tell me a secret~
- Location
- Behind you~
[X] Flat Fee
Not just to be contrarian, but there's little top tier work out there and it's not like Dockworkers necessarily get paid a lot either.
Obviously everything comes down to the #s involved (ie 20% vs $1000 or something equally inane) so it's somewhat pointless just to select just by this.
[X] Nah! No need for a Transmitter!
If you're trying to be paranoid, then nothing about either transmitter screams safety against RF detection. Network traffic takes a little more effort to connect physically. (Okay yeah you're a little more in Dragon's territory but if we're dueling Dragon, something went horribly wrong.)
Not just to be contrarian, but there's little top tier work out there and it's not like Dockworkers necessarily get paid a lot either.
Obviously everything comes down to the #s involved (ie 20% vs $1000 or something equally inane) so it's somewhat pointless just to select just by this.
[X] Nah! No need for a Transmitter!
If you're trying to be paranoid, then nothing about either transmitter screams safety against RF detection. Network traffic takes a little more effort to connect physically. (Okay yeah you're a little more in Dragon's territory but if we're dueling Dragon, something went horribly wrong.)
*thinks long and hard*
... Well, it didn't take too long for my players to munchkin the quest.
Yeah. That is a possible workaround. Considering the loopholes that are being discovered. Guys just make a write in vote on your preferred transmitter set-up. ^^
- Location
- Australia
that just proves we're interested, here's my write in
[X] Phased Transmitter Relay
Connect to the internet via a hidden Phased Transmitter. Gives you city-wide coverage of all networked cameras. If someone does manage to realise what is going on then you can just cut the connection leaving them no way to know who is responsible.
Ok. Accepted. Putting in the choices.
If you guys want to improve it further feel free.
You could give me a more detailed payment plan (so your poor QM doesn't need to make one) and I'll give you some initial bonus.
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- Location
- Tarn-Vedra
[X] Percentage Based
[X] Phase Stealth Transmitter
[X] Docks South
[X] Phase Stealth Transmitter
[X] Docks South
- Location
- va
[X] Percentage Based
[X] Phase Stealth Transmitter
[X] Docks South
[X] Phase Stealth Transmitter
[X] Docks South
VorpalMedia
Inter-Dimensional Techie
- Location
- Wonderland Data Nexus 472b
[X] Percentage Based
For every member that was hired on your recommendation, you can collect a percentage.
[X] Phase Stealth Transmitter
Your ordinary transmitter. Only with the capability of phasing for 1 second, allowing to hide in hollow points in the buildings among other things. Only problem! About twice as expensive.
[X] Docks South
For every member that was hired on your recommendation, you can collect a percentage.
[X] Phase Stealth Transmitter
Your ordinary transmitter. Only with the capability of phasing for 1 second, allowing to hide in hollow points in the buildings among other things. Only problem! About twice as expensive.
[X] Docks South
[X] Phased Transmitter Relay
I'm not sure about what the best choice is for the payment system, but it sounds like the Phased Transmitter Relay covers the whole city instead of just one area without endangering Taylor's location more than the other choices.
As for what's happening with the Trio, I like that the Barnes are taking action, but it doesn't feel like the girls are being punished enough. It doesn't seem like anything is stopping them from continuing to bully Taylor either, Blackwell's reassurances aside. I'm not sure what exactly would be sufficient though. Taylor getting sent to Arcadia if possible would help, but there's still the issue of what happens to the Trio.
I'm not sure about what the best choice is for the payment system, but it sounds like the Phased Transmitter Relay covers the whole city instead of just one area without endangering Taylor's location more than the other choices.
As for what's happening with the Trio, I like that the Barnes are taking action, but it doesn't feel like the girls are being punished enough. It doesn't seem like anything is stopping them from continuing to bully Taylor either, Blackwell's reassurances aside. I'm not sure what exactly would be sufficient though. Taylor getting sent to Arcadia if possible would help, but there's still the issue of what happens to the Trio.
- Location
- Sydney
[X] Percentage Based
[X] Phase Stealth Transmitter
[X] Docks South
[X] Phase Stealth Transmitter
[X] Docks South
Problem with that idea, it only helps if we notice their tracing attempt in time to cut the link, and it still leaves a relatively wide-open way for them to find the relay making it obvious SOMEONE is watching even if they don't know it's us, putting them on alert for any future attempts to regain access to the cameras.
Another option for charging the dockworkers would be to do a ranged payment system. For jobs earning up to $?, there's a low flat fee. Then for jobs earning from $? to $??, the payment is a small percentage. Finally, jobs that earn more than $?? pay a higher percentage. That might be the best way to earn money for Taylor without overcharging the dockworkers, and it should help reassure the dockworkers that the consulting firm is trying its best because the firm gets paid more for finding better jobs.
[X] Ranged Payment System
[X] Phased Transmitter Relay
[X] Ranged Payment System
[X] Phased Transmitter Relay
- Location
- Australia
True its got its problems but its easily the best option in the short term. There's not much we can do to minimise the risk of someone catching onto our hacking but hopefully with our network tinker specialisation it will take another person with parahuman level skill to catch us.
Stopping them from tracking the link between the router and the Hebert house could be mitigated by using tinkerteck on both ends, use some kind of tinker coms network to talk to the transmitter and there would be no way they could track it back to a location. If they do manage to track down where the physical transmitter is that just gives us a chance to see who comes round to investigate.
Meanwhile, the transmitter gives us average coverage of the whole city for the cost of 1 transmitter instead of 6 which as well as being a lot cheaper and faster to set up also minimises the time and risk needed to maintain it and the odds of someone somehow finding it. (Unless its coil but that's an impossible to solve issue)
We can also use the somewhat secured internet connection for other things that we don't want to be traced back to us such as web searches, hacking (such as with winslow) or as an official channel to conduct business with the dockworkers with.
codeRR
dual hero
- Location
- Where am I?
[X] Percentage Based
[X] Phase Stealth Transmitter
[X] Docks South
Really not sure on the payment system as a % can go a long way but it would be easier on the Union for smaller projects vs larger ones at least to me because smaller will be much more numerous in the bay.
[X] Phase Stealth Transmitter
[X] Docks South
Really not sure on the payment system as a % can go a long way but it would be easier on the Union for smaller projects vs larger ones at least to me because smaller will be much more numerous in the bay.