- Location
- Academy City
- Pronouns
- They
I don't know better, because there's nothing better to know. Leaving the vote one below hammer is almost always optimal for town unless we're near MyLo.
Welcome to Moonton (Mafia)
- Thread starter Terrabrand
- Start date
- Mafia
- Location
- Florida
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I disagree. The reason to have the buffer isn't necessarily to catch scum. Oftentimes it's there to give the accused the chance to speak if they would otherwise be getting rushed down, which was clearly needed here.
Azrael
Sakura Saber
- Location
- Throne of Heroes
Believe it or not, double voters aren't that common. Leaving the vote at 1 to hammer invites someone not paying attention to hammer it by accident though. Or, you know, pretending to not notice because they're scum.
At this point I'm not particularly sensing ill intent, but given its my policy to always vote when possible and I haven't done that yet this day (knew I probably shouldn't have signed up, I'm not paying this enough attention at all)...
Well, I guess I just don't like I just Write more at this point. If you don't want me to vote for you, convince me someone else is a better target.
[X] I just write
At this point I'm not particularly sensing ill intent, but given its my policy to always vote when possible and I haven't done that yet this day (knew I probably shouldn't have signed up, I'm not paying this enough attention at all)...
Well, I guess I just don't like I just Write more at this point. If you don't want me to vote for you, convince me someone else is a better target.
[X] I just write
- Location
- Florida
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Also accidentally posted it early but Az has stated the other reason.
If the vote is at 1 from hammer it's easy for someone who is being oblivious, to see how the votes are turning but not check the tally and vote someone upto hammer while denying town valuable day hours to discuss with.
If the vote is at 1 from hammer it's easy for someone who is being oblivious, to see how the votes are turning but not check the tally and vote someone upto hammer while denying town valuable day hours to discuss with.
We Just Write
Blatantly Plural
- Location
- New England
- Pronouns
- Plural
I would argue that Threnodist or QTesseract are significantly scummier than me. In the case of Threnodist, my infamous comment asking
was made in response to Threnodist voting for him immediately after saying that TMR's comment was the closest thing to a scumtell all game. Until that point, my suspicions were firmly aimed at Astaroh.
In the case of QTesseract, I simply informed them that as far as I knew, TMR was two votes below hammer instead of one. They are an experienced player who should have known better than to put TMR at one vote below hammer. They still have not provided a satisfactory excuse for why they did that.
In both cases, all I did was ask simple questions or provide factual informaton to the best of my knowledge, neither of which is a valid reason to lynch someone.
- Location
- Just passing through.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
...Ugh, I really want to put some pressure on The Master, I know they give an excuse, but they're just so quiet! >_<
- Location
- Florida
- Pronouns
- He/Him
To be frankeven if it is a valid excuse at this rate they will eventually have to be lynched since we can't get any info from the number of times they post, since they are functionally a blank slate. Blank slates are just horrible to keep around long term since it's difficult to get any alignment evidence one way or another.
We Just Write
Blatantly Plural
- Location
- New England
- Pronouns
- Plural
So do we lynch the Master?
- Location
- Florida
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Eh, it's their first time playing. Hopefully he'll get over the illness and will participate more. If not, then yeah, we'll reach that point during a day when no one is super suspicious.
Cyricubed
Residant Bird.
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him/Birb
@ComiTurtle any input so far? I've seen you pop in from time to time.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
29~ hours remain in Day Two.
The tally stands thusly at present.
The tally stands thusly at present.
We Just Write
Blatantly Plural
- Location
- New England
- Pronouns
- Plural
[X] Lynch atk50
I'll be honest, this is entirely self-preservation. I know for a fact that I am town, but I cannot know that 100% for atk50.
I'll be honest, this is entirely self-preservation. I know for a fact that I am town, but I cannot know that 100% for atk50.
Cyricubed
Residant Bird.
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him/Birb
atk already defended himself. He didn't hit the hammer or go for it. Honestly don't see a point in pursuing this. I just Write is just pushing for an easy target away from himself according to votes, he still went pretty encouragingly for the TMR train and I'm not satisfied with the defense from earlier. I dont' like QT's answer but...honestly still find I just write higher on the scumdar and with the day whittling down on top of people not really bringing forth anything worth pursuing I'd like to hammer back
[X] Lynch I just write
All I've seen so far is redirections, different interpretations, and rather eagerness to finish up the day phase granted the vote isn't on him. I don't like that as that reduces potential information for town and leads to mistakes being made.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Less than 24 hours remain in day 2. As things stand, @atk50 and @I just write are tied for being lynched.
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
A resource:
Pawn - Lynch atk [1]
Comi - Lynch Asta [1]
Azrael - Lynch Asta [2]
Cyric - Lynch Nani [1]
Riki - Lynch Comi [1]
IJW - Lynch Riki [1]
Asta - Lynch Comi [2]
Atk - Lynch Pawn [1]
Thren - Lynch IJW [1]
IJW - Null Riki [0]
IJW - Lynch Thren [1]
Acheo - Lynch Riki [1]
QT - Lynch Pawn [2]
Cyric - Null Nani [0]
Cyric - Lynch Pawn [3]
Nani - Lynch Pawn [4]
TMR - Lynch Comi [3]
QT - Null Pawn [3]
QT - Lynch Nani [1]
Nani - Null Pawn [2]
Nani - Lynch QT [1]
QT - Null Nani [0]
QT - Lynch Pawn [3]
IJW - Null Thren [0]
IJW - Lynch Comi [4]
Pawn - Null atk [0]
Pawn - Lynch Asta [3]
Riki - Null Comi [3]
Riki - Lynch Pawn [4]
Asta - Null Comi [2]
Asta - Lynch Pawn [5]
IJW - Null Comi [1]
IJW - Lynch Asta [4]
Master - Lynch Asta [5]
Atk - Null Pawn [4]
Cyric - Null Pawn [3]
Cyric - Lynch TMR [1]
Archeo - Null Riki [0]
Archeo - Lynch Asta [6]
Thren - Null IJW [0]
Thren - Lynch TMR [2]
Asta - Null Pawn [4]
Nani - Null QT [0]
Nani - Lynch atk [1]
Azrael - Null Asta [5]
Azrael - Lynch TMR [3]
IJW - Null Asta [4]
IJW - Lynch TMR [4]
Riki - Null Pawn [3]
Archeo - Null Asta [3]
Archeo - Lynch TMR [5]
Riki - Lynch Thren [1]
Pawn - Null Asta [2]
Pawn - Lynch TMR [6]
QT - Null Pawn [2]
QT - Lynch Asta [3]
QT - Null Asta [2]
QT - Lynch TMR [7!] (Surprise Hammer)
Comi - Lynch Asta [1]
Azrael - Lynch Asta [2]
Cyric - Lynch Nani [1]
Riki - Lynch Comi [1]
IJW - Lynch Riki [1]
Asta - Lynch Comi [2]
Atk - Lynch Pawn [1]
Thren - Lynch IJW [1]
IJW - Null Riki [0]
IJW - Lynch Thren [1]
Acheo - Lynch Riki [1]
QT - Lynch Pawn [2]
Cyric - Null Nani [0]
Cyric - Lynch Pawn [3]
Nani - Lynch Pawn [4]
TMR - Lynch Comi [3]
QT - Null Pawn [3]
QT - Lynch Nani [1]
Nani - Null Pawn [2]
Nani - Lynch QT [1]
QT - Null Nani [0]
QT - Lynch Pawn [3]
IJW - Null Thren [0]
IJW - Lynch Comi [4]
Pawn - Null atk [0]
Pawn - Lynch Asta [3]
Riki - Null Comi [3]
Riki - Lynch Pawn [4]
Asta - Null Comi [2]
Asta - Lynch Pawn [5]
IJW - Null Comi [1]
IJW - Lynch Asta [4]
Master - Lynch Asta [5]
Atk - Null Pawn [4]
Cyric - Null Pawn [3]
Cyric - Lynch TMR [1]
Archeo - Null Riki [0]
Archeo - Lynch Asta [6]
Thren - Null IJW [0]
Thren - Lynch TMR [2]
Asta - Null Pawn [4]
Nani - Null QT [0]
Nani - Lynch atk [1]
Azrael - Null Asta [5]
Azrael - Lynch TMR [3]
IJW - Null Asta [4]
IJW - Lynch TMR [4]
Riki - Null Pawn [3]
Archeo - Null Asta [3]
Archeo - Lynch TMR [5]
Riki - Lynch Thren [1]
Pawn - Null Asta [2]
Pawn - Lynch TMR [6]
QT - Null Pawn [2]
QT - Lynch Asta [3]
QT - Null Asta [2]
QT - Lynch TMR [7!] (Surprise Hammer)
Comi - Lynch Cyric [1]
QT - Lynch Cyric [2]
Asta - Lynch Thren [1]
IJW - Lynch Cyric [3]
Cyric - Lynch IJW [1]
IJW - Null Cyric [2]
Pawn - Lynch atk [1]
Asta - Null Thren [0]
QT - Null Cyric [1]
QT - Lynch atk [2]
Cyric - Null IJW [0]
Cyric - Lynch atk [3]
Riki - Lynch IJW [1]
Atk - Lynch Pawn [1]
Cyric - Null atk [2]
Cyric - Lynch QT [1]
Azra - Lynch IJW [2]
IJW - Lynch atk [3]
Cyric - Null QT [0]
Cyric - Lynch IJW [3]
QT - Lynch Cyric [2]
Asta - Lynch Thren [1]
IJW - Lynch Cyric [3]
Cyric - Lynch IJW [1]
IJW - Null Cyric [2]
Pawn - Lynch atk [1]
Asta - Null Thren [0]
QT - Null Cyric [1]
QT - Lynch atk [2]
Cyric - Null IJW [0]
Cyric - Lynch atk [3]
Riki - Lynch IJW [1]
Atk - Lynch Pawn [1]
Cyric - Null atk [2]
Cyric - Lynch QT [1]
Azra - Lynch IJW [2]
IJW - Lynch atk [3]
Cyric - Null QT [0]
Cyric - Lynch IJW [3]
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Okay an observation:
Day 1 Pawn Maxed out at 5 votes with the voters being- Atk, QT, Cyric, Riki, and Asta.
Day 1 Asta Maxed out at 6 votes with the voters being- Comi, Azrael, Pawn, IJW, Master, and Archeo.
Day 1 TMR Hammered at 7 votes with the voters being- Cyric, Thren, Azrael, IJW, Archeo, Pawn, QT.
We assume not a side voter and instead a consistent double voter, meaning Cyric, Thren, Azrael, IJW, Archeo, Pawn, or QT is likely the multivoter. Archeo is most likely not a multivoter.
We find that none are on all 3, but a number of votes are on two; those players are: QT, Cyric, Pawn, Azrael,Archeo, and IJW. I presume a player on more than one of the high lynches is more likely to be the multivoter purely because they want to use their power.
Now assuming the theory the multivoter is scum, we look closely at the vote one-off a sudden hammer, Asta. The players that are most likely Multivoter are Azrael, Pawn, and IJW. Scum would only need one more vote to push this lynch thus the rational reason this isn't pushed to the death can mean 2 possibilities: All Scum were already voting, or Asta is scum and scum doesn't want to hammer themselves.
So now we look at those on the side of the multivoter is scum: QT----
I have no idea where I'm going with this so lets just get to the point for now. I currently have a scum read on Astaroh, QT, and Thren. I choose not to trust Pawn on principle giving a neutral read. I think IJW is the double voter and town.
I'm tired so have the bad reasons for my thoughts-
Asta was very nearing a lynch (albeit with low justification) but its day 1. Thren saw that pawn and my lynches weren't likely to happen and as Asta's teammate needed to get the lynch off them, and saw a way to get the ball rolling on TMR it wasn't a bad reason to push the lynch. But they needed to make sure Asta didn't die. I think QT is scum because they tried to promote the two man scum team idea, and push the multivoter is scum idea which both I disagree with and I do honestly think they were surprised by the sudden hammer, and know that that role is dangerous for them going forward.
When I get some rest and free time I'll try and further express my ideas with stronger rationals, but I'm oddly confident in the Asta is scum idea and as such-
[X] Null Cyric
[X] Lynch Astaroh-M
Day 1 Pawn Maxed out at 5 votes with the voters being- Atk, QT, Cyric, Riki, and Asta.
Day 1 Asta Maxed out at 6 votes with the voters being- Comi, Azrael, Pawn, IJW, Master, and Archeo.
Day 1 TMR Hammered at 7 votes with the voters being- Cyric, Thren, Azrael, IJW, Archeo, Pawn, QT.
We assume not a side voter and instead a consistent double voter, meaning Cyric, Thren, Azrael, IJW, Archeo, Pawn, or QT is likely the multivoter. Archeo is most likely not a multivoter.
We find that none are on all 3, but a number of votes are on two; those players are: QT, Cyric, Pawn, Azrael,
Now assuming the theory the multivoter is scum, we look closely at the vote one-off a sudden hammer, Asta. The players that are most likely Multivoter are Azrael, Pawn, and IJW. Scum would only need one more vote to push this lynch thus the rational reason this isn't pushed to the death can mean 2 possibilities: All Scum were already voting, or Asta is scum and scum doesn't want to hammer themselves.
So now we look at those on the side of the multivoter is scum: QT----
I have no idea where I'm going with this so lets just get to the point for now. I currently have a scum read on Astaroh, QT, and Thren. I choose not to trust Pawn on principle giving a neutral read. I think IJW is the double voter and town.
I'm tired so have the bad reasons for my thoughts-
Asta was very nearing a lynch (albeit with low justification) but its day 1. Thren saw that pawn and my lynches weren't likely to happen and as Asta's teammate needed to get the lynch off them, and saw a way to get the ball rolling on TMR it wasn't a bad reason to push the lynch. But they needed to make sure Asta didn't die. I think QT is scum because they tried to promote the two man scum team idea, and push the multivoter is scum idea which both I disagree with and I do honestly think they were surprised by the sudden hammer, and know that that role is dangerous for them going forward.
When I get some rest and free time I'll try and further express my ideas with stronger rationals, but I'm oddly confident in the Asta is scum idea and as such-
[X] Null Cyric
[X] Lynch Astaroh-M
- Location
- Just passing through.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
*sigh* I assure you, you're very wrong.
Anyway, after reading things again, I think I will vote for:
[X] Lynch I just write
He just seems so eager to push for other people to me, and maybe he did say the thing about TMR as a "question" but it planted the idea on the rest of voters, so I find that suspicious.
- Location
- Just passing through.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Wait, let me fix that:
[X] Lynch I just write
[X] Lynch I just write
- Location
- Florida
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Asta was already one of my more dubious players in my mind but QT still feels the scummiest to me. His rationale for the one vote buffer feels like an excuse and having 2 scum teams would be insane in a 14 player game just due to how quickly town would lose majority. Proposing that and the scum multivoter feels like town would have so little power and almost like he is trying to push an agenda or view of the game's setup to the other players.
[X] Null
[X] Lynch QTesseract
[X] Null
[X] Lynch QTesseract
We Just Write
Blatantly Plural
- Location
- New England
- Pronouns
- Plural
Hadn't wanted to mention this, but now's as good a time as any to note that I am in fact a Watcher, who can see who visits a house at night, and see if the resident leaves (though not where they go). Last night I was watching QTesseract, and I saw them leaving their house. Given who we know about (two killers and a Roleblocker), it seems quite likely that QTesseract is one of the killers.
- Location
- NZ
Well time to ask qtesseract what they did then, bearing in mind that now ur clained power is now known about and you didnt see a smoking gun.
@QTesseract what say you? Pawn also suspect you so ijw charges have merit