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Fool's Adventures: A Demon's Souls/Buffy the Vampire Slayer Quest

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[X] Follow Angel's plan and come at his problems with subtlety.

Less evil is better. Also, making Buffy an eventual enemy is a bad idea, I think.

The Idol becoming goodish is my goal. Also the Idol becoming a chibi. Honestly, mostly the chibi.
 
From what I understand we've got two options. Team up with Angel and maybe Buffy and kill Darla or steal Buffy's friends, team up with Angel and kill Darla.

BungieONI said:
Angel will have a plan of his own on how he wants to deal with his issues. A man like him would. And given he's in the middle of those problems, and he is intelligent, it is likely to be a good plan. If your read on the situation is correct, it is also likely to get Darla reduced to dust. The question is that, sometimes, it is good to take the counsel of another viewpoint, like yours. And it may involve the Warrior in someway since he is stuck in the mire of intense emotions.

Which you can handle, but it means you have to approach him and the Warrior differently and expend more effort.
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Tempting, I'm not entirely sure how this requires us to expend more effort since Angel is probably going to want to do most of the heavy lifting for slaying Darla. I guess it means more effort socially, like convincing Buffy not kill Angel on sight and stuff.

It might also mean more effort long term for gaining social victory over Buffy.

BungieONI said:
The other option is to listen to his ideas, take his counsel, and then suggest your own plan. And you would likely start with the source, Willow. The girl was enamored with you, and through her you can lever her friends to your viewpoint. Namely, leverage them to kill Darla, and isolate them from the Warrior. Make them orbit you, instead of her.
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Also tempting, but I don't think we want to put in the effort to keep up the social links properly. Especially since they all go to the same school (making it hard to maintain a better social control than Buffy) and Giles in particular is going to be a difficult to flip if we try for that.

On the other hand I doubt we'd aim for a long term thing, it'd be more like remember that one time I was reasonable and Buffy was acting crazy? However the only one who might really take our side here anyway is Willow.

[X] Follow Angel's plan and come at his problems with subtlety.

This way at least we get a good in with Angel. In this situation I don't see much hope in trying to split Buffy from her companions, besides Buffy will no doubt find plenty of opportunities in the future to look bad and we can always subtly gloat about how we were able to be reasonable in this situation when Buffy acted impulsively.
 
[X] Follow Angel's plan and come at his problems with subtlety.

He knows Buffy and her friends better than we do.
 
[X] Follow Angel's plan and come at his problems with subtlety.

I don't think we are that interested into gathering followers, now that we have Annie at least.
 
BungieONI said:
The possessive feeling is currently at war with your amusement and the unnamable bubbly feeling which reminds you of Annie.
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Gasp! She cares... I mean we already knew that but it's so nice every time it gets confirmed!

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[X] Follow Angel's plan and come at his problems with subtlety.
 
It's great that our Idol's coming to the decision to rule and be proactive, I vote to support that.

[X] Listen to Angel's plan and counsel, then convince him of your own method.

Plus, even if it's risky, it'll be more interesting.
 
WorldSlayer said:
Also tempting, but I don't think we want to put in the effort to keep up the social links properly. Especially since they all go to the same school (making it hard to maintain a better social control than Buffy) and Giles in particular is going to be a difficult to flip if we try for that.
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I think it worth it, if we can move them on our side, in the long-term they're our allies and they're going to help/trust us.
I mean, we don't really have to even interact with them but we can't simply ignore them since they're a central part of all of this.

You're looking at it too seriously and as if any relationship need for people to be together 24/7, we're already going out sometimes with Annie in the evening. If we really wanted to maintain a social link with them we can do so without always being a major part of their everyday life and have their trust. I mean Buffy can act crazy, she doesn't go and slaughter her friends tho.

The last thing is letting Angel handle it is a bad idea considering they just fought last night since Buffy saw him in his 'monstrous' form, kind of. That kind of impression is hard to shake off even if you come back next morning with a handsomely smile and a branch of olive to make peace.
WorldSlayer said:
This way at least we get a good in with Angel. In this situation I don't see much hope in trying to split Buffy from her companions, besides Buffy will no doubt find plenty of opportunities in the future to look bad and we can always subtly gloat about how we were able to be reasonable in this situation when Buffy acted impulsively.
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Why would we do that when we already are on the good side of Angel and he's grateful to us for saving/helping him? What more would you want? Antagonizing Buffy really will bring nothing to the table but hostilities, which will follow along from Buffy's companions as well. I mean you don't just sit there while your friend is being mocked, right?

Buffy is not the antagonist, she's someone that can be useful to us and we're discarding her for a social victory over her?

I might be misunderstanding something and if that is the case, sorry, but that's the impression I got at least. I'm mostly confused, here.
 
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So, something of a little tidbit for you folks while the voting period ticks along. Episodes 7, 8 and 9 are all part of an over-arching story arc made up of their individual episodic plots like "Helping Angel with his problems", woven together by a specific story set piece and thread.

After that for episodes 10 and 11 we're in what I'm calling the end game, and 11 is the planned Season Finale. At which point this quest goes on break for a bit and I go do other quests with their own "seasons", and then return to Fool's when those are done.
 
I can still lie.
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Could you unpack this? It flew over my head.
I guess she was under a curse to never lie or something connected to her nature.

[X] Listen to Angel's plan and counsel, then convince him of your own method.
Terran Imperium said:
Buffy is not the antagonist, she's someone that can be useful to us and we're discarding her for a social victory over her?
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I got the impression from the chapter that she will be eventually. So starting the battle before she is aware that there is one. Winning before the fight even begins, essentially.
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