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"Viscountess Athryn Mithy Arslan. Your champion was defeated, I am placing you under arrest and relieving you of command over the heavy cruiser Fafnir. I advise you n-"

Athryn is glaring murderously first at Ranca, then at you, then she draws and ignites her sabre. "I do not accept this you Arril bitch. Your puppet will not detain me."
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@Packrat: Say, doesn't this mean the viscountess was killed, not during a duel, but while resisting arrest?

I know house Arslan won't care about that, but technically, has Ranca actually committed a crime?

fasquardon
 
fasquardon said:
@Packrat: Say, doesn't this mean the viscountess was killed, not during a duel, but while resisting arrest?

I know house Arslan won't care about that, but technically, has Ranca actually committed a crime?

fasquardon
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Yes. Packrat said that it was a legitimate duel, not some kind of "resisting arrest" thing. Which I kind of doubt is even a thing when it comes to the nobility.

Also, unrelated, but why do you sign all your posts as yourself? We know who you are, your username is right there.
 
fasquardon said:
@Packrat: Say, doesn't this mean the viscountess was killed, not during a duel, but while resisting arrest?

I know house Arslan won't care about that, but technically, has Ranca actually committed a crime?

fasquardon
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That's the reasoning I intend on using to have Ranca get away with this. Spin it as the Viscountess resisting arrest after losing the duel, which obviously means she was guilty. Ranca was just a little premature in carrying out Imperial justice.
 
[X] Threaten The Arslans. Ranca has just literally cut off the head of their leadership, pointedly accept this then inform the senior officers of the heavy cruisers that they are now under your command whilst she stands looking worryingly pleased with herself at your side.
 
Snowfire said:
That's the reasoning I intend on using to have Ranca get away with this. Spin it as the Viscountess resisting arrest after losing the duel, which obviously means she was guilty. Ranca was just a little premature in carrying out Imperial justice.
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That said, this. There's a difference between what happened and what we say happened.

On that note, a bunch of Arslan-loyal captains will probably be saying that's not what happened. Perhaps therein lies the appeal of Threaten The Arslans. Start as we mean to continue, Ranca did nothing wrong, so there's no reason for her to be in parole.

[X] Threaten The Arslans.

EDIT: Got overeager and posted before I'd finished saying things, but the actual link between Threaten The Arslans and them saying that it wasn't resisting arrest was originally possibly scaring them into compliance. Even just one Arslan-loyal witness saying that it was resisting arrest throws doubt on the rest of the Arslan bloc.
 
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[x] Threaten The Arslans. Ranca has just literally cut off the head of their leadership, pointedly accept this then inform the senior officers of the heavy cruisers that they are now under your command whilst she stands looking worryingly pleased with herself at your side.

"If Viscount wasn't a traitor, why did both her champion and herself get slayed within 1 minute?"
 
I'm torn on this one. The appearance of propriety on this will be important in the future, but at the same time we really need the cruiser's captains to be in line.
 
Also can we take a moment to appreciate the decision to grab Ranca as early as we did? She just went through two nobles in what appears to have been forty seconds. Also, I'm finding myself convinced by the threaten argument here, but I'm not sure.
Adhoc vote count started by Snowfire on Sep 14, 2018 at 9:10 AM, finished with 3489 posts and 24 votes.
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Honestly, I kinda pity House Arslan right now. Losing your heir for the third time in a row will make other nobles think that House Arslan has some kind of bad juju surrounding them, that or they will think that house arslan is filled with incompetent people
 
I'm just going to repeat/expand on my argument here real quick.

Arresting Ranca, or even putting her on Parole, is an inherent admission of wrongdoing. It'll be too easy to point to and say "See? They're lying." What'd be more convincing on future examination is if we don't punish Ranca at all for it, because there was no crime committed by her, which is what our story seems like it's going to be.
 
[X] Threaten The Arslans.

Paroling Ranca seems to be an admission of guilt on Ranca's part, and therefore Reinhard's - "I'm taking responsibility for Ranca to make sure she doesn't do this again." seems to be what it's saying.

Right now we should hack the data on the Viscountess' plans and her offers to Reinhard from her implants (maybe Sones would be good for this due to his high Subterfuge skill? ) and in the meantime intimidate the rest of the Arslan captains and officers into obedience, at least for now, so they won't dispute our account of events.

Seems like we've got House Arslan as a major enemy now, and considering how much help Ranca has been it seems that improving our ties wit House Arril would be a wise move.
 
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Packrat said:
Ranca
2 + 3 + 6 + 17 Prowess = 28
Athryn
3 + 1 + 3 + 13 Prowess = 20

Athryn Durability 2/10

This does not quite succeed but the Viscountess cries out as she barely parries, Ranca's blade slicing through her helmet and across her cheek, removing half of an ear before they lock blades and shove at each other in their armour. The result is the Arslan heir slamming back into one of her lieutenants as armoured officers hurriedly back away, almost losing her footing, coming back with fast, flurrying slashes as she attempts to land a blow on Ranca.

Ranca
5 +3 + 6 + 17 Prowess = 31
Athryn
2 + 1 + 2 + 13 Prowess = 18

Athryn Durability -11/10 – Dead

So that is when Ranca falls back, waits for a heartbeat until she spots an opening, then steps in to neatly decapitate the heiress to House Arslan, her mangled head falls to the floor. Everyone is silent.
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If we look at the sequence of events, for once it doesn't look to me like Ranca even deliberately escalated to killing. Athryn was still on her feet and in fighting shape when Ranca took the opening offered. It proved to be an instantly lethal blow, but in the realm of "Oh well, sometimes that happens in duels."
 
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