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Being the Holy Grail is Suffering... [Worm/FSN Quest]

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MetaChthonia said:
Could also use Karsh to cut open their own chest, pull out their own heart, and drizzle their blood over themselves or use Karsh to slit their own neck along the major arteries and hold the wounds open as they make it so they're appropriately dressed!

Or better yet: find a bathtub, fill it with their blood, and make their clothing more appropriate! Or just wear the blood, I prefer this Idea but it's more harder to do. Probably could bath in the blood with the cloths.

The Cup needs to smell like iron and look like a corpse or else they are just simply not appropriately dressed!

I never expected the day where I'm involved in a discussion about a genocidal gestalt entity self exsanguinating as a means to adjust clothing so it's appropriate for themselves...Well at least this satisfies Taylor's suicidal urges.
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Statement: "As you have stated, the only blood to be allowed upon our garments is our own and thatwhich has been "justly" taken from our enemies in "honorable" combat (I actually mean the blood spatter from when we go stabby stab or crushy slam near their blood vessels while their souls still reside in their bodies, this means that bathtub of enemy blood must be drawn from living fighting enemies.) so yes s as a genocidal gestalt ought to be self exsanguinating so as to make our clothing more appropriate.

Basically, I have no idea what your post meant so I am saying in detail that self mutilation is the way to go and if you already said that than I definitely understood and am reiterating to confirm and support. If you spoke to the contrary than I am giving pseudological reasoning as to why I'm right and you're wrong because self mutilation is da wae.

Also, has that meme finished dying yet? I must ask as I do not know de wae."
 
Ksense said:
this means that bathtub of enemy blood must be drawn from living fighting enemies.
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Well I meant that the bathtub was filled with "Taylor"s blood given that she has an infinite supply of the GLORIOUS resource and it's more appropriate for them to bathe in their own blood.
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Also, has that meme finished dying yet? I must ask as I do not know de wae."
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I do not know, maebe dey know?
 
Fuck. Looks like it's tied again.
Adhoc vote count started by Rowknan on Feb 18, 2018 at 12:44 AM, finished with 154 posts and 65 votes.
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NOOO YOU FUDGING HERETICS! HOW CAN YOU NOT VOTE FOR YOUR FUTURE KING!?!?

Ahem. Chiron is cool enough that I could learn to be okay with him winning. BUT UNTIL THEN! Vote Moedred for president!
 
[X] Archer (Chiron)
I mostly chose him cause of him being a teacher but not to have someone to train her powers
but because he'll most likely teach her other things to broaden her selection on what she wants to be rather than a Hero and also a possible parental figure for her
 
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@FacelessDoll So question: If we don't vote in a certain Servant is there any chance that we could vote them in for a different Master? I'm asking for a friend.

Also for all those voting for Chiron for Vista's benefit: remember that is NOT our job. We're Angra Mainyu, The Corrupted Holy Grail, and a Shard all wrapped up in a neat little package. Our job is to instigate conflict, not prevent it.

Dalxein said:
You realize that if we don't vote Mordred now, we could pair her up with someone more appropriate later?

For example, I find myself suddenly consumed with the desire to show Kaiser what a real king is like.
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I personally am emotionally invested in Mordred's character and really don't want to find out what Kaiser would do with power over Mordred.
 
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Dalxein said:
You realize that if we don't vote Mordred now, we could pair her up with someone more appropriate later?

For example, I find myself suddenly consumed with the desire to show Kaiser what a real king is like.
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Statement: "Nay, should Kaiser summon a saberface it should be a real emperor.

It should be Nero Claudius Ceasar Augustus Germanicus. The greatest saibah ever to live and the only good saberface."

Rowknan said:
@FacelessDoll So question: If we don't vote in a certain Servant is there any chance that we could vote them in for a different Master? I'm asking for a friend.

Also for all those voting for Chiron for Vista's benefit: remember that is NOT our job. We're Angra Mainyu, The Corrupted Holy Grail, and a Shard all wrapped up in a neat little package. Our job is to instigate conflict, not prevent it.
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Statement: "By optimizing compatibility we may be reducing minor conflicts but in exchange for losing those inconsequential little things we make the real conflict data that much more valuable. We're it actually possible we would likely get the best data by summoning heroic spirits from the nasu multiverse fully incarnated tied to 99.9% compatible but conflicting masters. This would assure maximum power and maximum data as we lack the power to even consider doing full incarnations and bindings we can do the next best thing and assuring maximum compatibility for conflicting masters.

Basically, we want data and power and having all the servants be compatible and having the masters naturally conflict gives the most power and the best data at the sacrifice of the inconsequential little arguments between Servant and master.

TLDR: You actually have a pretty decent and hard to refute argument save for the fact that it works even better once you invert it. Sry."
 
[X] Saber (Mordred)

Ah I got here late and I'm too tired to read through all the arguments. I'm just gonna say that I like people who compliment each other rather than people where one has an inherent advantage. In this case, Mordred and Vista both have equal flaws as opposed to just having Chiron teaching her directly to be better. Just more fun for me to read I guess?
 
Rowknan said:
So question: If we don't vote in a certain Servant is there any chance that we could vote them in for a different Master? I'm asking for a friend.

Also for all those voting for Chiron for Vista's benefit: remember that is NOT our job. We're Angra Mainyu, The Corrupted Holy Grail, and a Shard all wrapped up in a neat little package. Our job is to instigate conflict, not prevent it.


I personally am emotionally invested in Mordred's character and really don't want to find out what Kaiser would do with power over Mordred.
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I thought the point was conflict between master/servant pairs, not the masters and servants themselves. Making Vista a more credible threat by giving her someone she could work with well enough to set up ambushes and advantageous scenarios seems like it would serve that purpose better.

And it wouldn't have to be Kaiser, just someone in the gang. What would Rune do with a sudden infusion of power? Could kitty girl tame the mighty chainsaw wolf? I am interested in finding out!
 
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Ksense said:
Statement: "Nay, should Kaiser summon a saberface it should be a real emperor.

It should be Nero Claudius Ceasar Augustus Germanicus. The greatest saibah ever to live and the only good saberface."



Statement: "By optimizing compatibility we may be reducing minor conflicts but in exchange for losing those inconsequential little things we make the real conflict data that much more valuable. We're it actually possible we would likely get the best data by summoning heroic spirits from the nasu multiverse fully incarnated tied to 99.9% compatible but conflicting masters. This would assure maximum power and maximum data as we lack the power to even consider doing full incarnations and bindings we can do the next best thing and assuring maximum compatibility for conflicting masters.

Basically, we want data and power and having all the servants be compatible and having the masters naturally conflict gives the most power and the best data at the sacrifice of the inconsequential little arguments between Servant and master.

TLDR: You actually have a pretty decent and hard to refute argument save for the fact that it works even better once you invert it. Sry."
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In that case it would invariably come down to the strongest Servant/Master Pair if they all perfectly complimented each other and didn't challenge each other. Which would not be the kind of conflict we as the audience or we as Angra Mainyu want. We as the audience want an interesting story and Angra Mainyu really wants all them bitches to suffer.

Besides, we ended up not choosing the most complimentary Master/Servant pair when we choose Jekyll, and I don't think anyone has regretted that decision yet.
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Nero Claudius Ceasar Augustus Germanicus. The greatest saibah ever to live and the only good saberface."
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Lies and slander. Moedred is best saber! She isn't merely a copy of her dad with boobs and an over inflated ego! She is a copy of her dad with anger issues and an over inflated ego!

The LD Man said:
[X] Saber (Mordred)

Ah I got here late and I'm too tired to read through all the arguments. I'm just gonna say that I like people who compliment each other rather than people where one has an inherent advantage. In this case, Mordred and Vista both have equal flaws as opposed to just having Chiron teaching her directly to be better. Just more fun for me to read I guess?
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Agreed. One-sided relationships are pretty boring.
 
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Rowknan said:
@FacelessDoll So question: If we don't vote in a certain Servant is there any chance that we could vote them in for a different Master? I'm asking for a friend.
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If we happen across another Master where Mordred would/could be a good fit, then yeah. I'm sure Vista isn't the only person who wants to prove themselves to others and/or has issues with their parents. Is there a shrug emoji? ... nope. Well, you get the idea.
 
FacelessDoll said:
If we happen across another Master where Mordred would/could be a good fit, then yeah. I'm sure Vista isn't the only person who wants to prove themselves to others and/or has issues with their parents. Is there a shrug emoji? ... nope. Well, you get the idea.
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Fair enough. I mean there is hardly a shortage of people with daddy issues and a need to prove themselves in Worm. Now despite how much I like Mordred, I'm wondering what would happen if we paired her with Jack or Bonesaw. She'd probably end up killing them honestly.
 
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OverReactionGuy said:
Actually, you miscounted before everyone started to vote for him after this.
There is 1 separate Chiron vote that doesn't go with the rest due to the bolded text. So at that time, there was actually 28 votes for Chiron and 27 for Mordred.
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Oh I'm aware. I just updated the tally once.
Adhoc vote count started by Rowknan on Feb 18, 2018 at 1:12 AM, finished with 166 posts and 69 votes.
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FacelessDoll said:
If we happen across another Master where Mordred would/could be a good fit, then yeah. I'm sure Vista isn't the only person who wants to prove themselves to others and/or has issues with their parents. Is there a shrug emoji? ... nope. Well, you get the idea.
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I know of one person.

Theo Anders.

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Panacea(Her father is in jail, her adoptive mother is a bitch and her adoptive father is basically not there), Victoria(sorta the same as panacea), Taylor Hebert(Danny broke at his wife's death and never really recovered), Sophia hess(Haha, so many issues), Dennis(His father's dieing due to cancer so he has an issue with that).

I could go on. Pretty much every character in worm has issues with their parent in one shape or another.
 
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Rowknan said:
Now that would be interesting. If Kaiser ends up dying like in canon. Otherwise it would be kind of meh.
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Theo would entirely be interesting and generate a lot of conflict. He has a father that would pressure him to use the wish for his own wish or who would try to order his servant around and shit like that.

Hell, he may trigger with the amount of stress the war would give him especially if he needs to deal with Mordred.

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Would likely lead to the cause of his father's death and the E88 imploding too.
 
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